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@StackedCrooked "a little"
> I will warn anyone who's reading this that you do need some understanding of advanced mathematics (at the very least XOR and other logic)
Under a link to some crypto tutorials
@StackedCrooked this old
Megaupload is down, but rapidshare is up, isohunt is down but torrentreactor is still up
I am amazed at authority's futile attempts at the issue, lol
I need to do so many boring things
00:11
@IInspectable I wasn't not saying it is the (only) reason. I'm saying, there's currently nothing that requires this can be done portably. Standalone implementations of conforming compilers need not even facilitate argc, argv in the first place). — sehe 1 min ago
@CatPlusPlus oh god
@CatPlusPlus Like, reviewing crap loads of bad tutorials? Then sitting through LP's of 20-year old games?
No, writing code
Also I forgot how you configure PHP with suexec
@R.MartinhoFernandes What's this? Were you bored?
That's old code I just put in a more convenient place.
That guy quarnster finally decided to use an issue tracker.
> Because I'm just a single person and I don't want to offer up my spare time doing support or dealing with feature requests that I don't care about myself. If you want a feature implemented or a bug fixed, fork it and implement it yourself and submit a pull request when you're happy with the implementation.
Xeo
Xeo
00:18
Always fun when people fuck up and get all their data stolen. We had a rogue-post through a trojan or something on behalf of one of our authors on our blog.
This is "fuck you" written by someone too scared to actually say "fuck you"
yeah that's how it always read to me too
Also USE FUCKING NEWLINES YOU IDIOT
@Rapptz I don't know what's more scary - that robor has old code named "nyan-cats" or that you have managed to find it out
@User17 He's the only person I follow on github.
@CatPlusPlus Text wrapping makes it so it looks fine on your editor but I added a ruler so I know when to newline now just for better diffs with git
00:20
You don't follow me :(
@Rapptz Doesn't your editor show that the line's been wrapped?
yeah
That's... silly
I tend to not use text wrapping
I added the ruler so I can know when I meet my 125 column limit
> Well, why don't you fork it and open up the list in your fork? Why isn't any excuse you can think of to not do that valid for me also?
I chose 125 because that's when text is fine on github and bitbucket for me before you have to scroll.
00:22
:cripes:
> In contrast, as this project is 100% Open Source no one depends on me to fix anything and everyone can change exactly every single line of code that makes it up without my personal involvement.
:s
Never ask me anything about the code!
@Rapptz This is bound to be some QA right there
@Rapptz For text (as opposed to code) I just set textwidth and vim adds newlines automatically.
I don't believe in communication in open source community!
00:25
evening lounge
@Rapptz That's old code he often shared here
birthday ;D
Condolences!
@nightcracker happy birthday!
one year closer to your death
00:26
You're old
This game music is amazing
@R.MartinhoFernandes Ah, I remember it being on ideone
@BartoszKP one year alive thanks to our Lord
@Jefffrey well this is disputable, as opposed to my line
of course
00:27
@CatPlusPlus 19 =/
@R.MartinhoFernandes I don't think I can do that.
Welcome to the world of old people
@CatPlusPlus all I see are bills and having to make dinner
Also taxes
also wife :3
00:29
Yeah right
@Jefffrey pls where can I buy one
You're a teenager. Don't give me this crap.
lol
@nightcracker on some road (depends on your zone) between 2am and 6am of the night
00:31
@nightcracker Russia
@Jefffrey we have the red light district ;D
@nightcracker see?
there's always hope
And going back to "bills"
Think a cause and effect essay is formal?
@Pawnguy7 if you'll write it formally
00:32
for me it's pretty much only healthcare, tuition, food and housing, so it could be a lot worse
@BartoszKP Ah, but I don't want to.
@nightcracker don't forget about the approaching death
@Pawnguy7 the cause-effect dilemma again?
@Pawnguy7 then don't write it formally
@BartoszKP I'm immortal, didn't you know
00:33
You're still on Phase 3 of life!
@Jefffrey again?
Don't forget a decoupler
@nightcracker well it still approaches, just it doesn't converge
@Rapptz didn't know there were levels to reach in real life
00:34
I came up with stages of life when I was bored in college
So, when you were in college
@Rapptz I wish I could see the list :3
I can transcribe the notebook paper to LaTeX but it's not that interesting
alllrighty then
Stage 4 is when you get married btw
00:37
I guess Stage 5 is death then
There are 3 stages: 1st - you're too stupid to comprehend the approaching death, 2nd - you know the death is approaching, 3rd - you die
Stage 5 is kids
That's a terrible design
00:37
It was
I think after kids it was kids turn into adults, then you get sick, family death, then your death
@BartoszKP what happens if you are an immortal Bartek?
@Pawnguy7 you remain at stage 1
So people actually use Go?
@Rapptz so you are the last one to die, of your family
00:40
I'll have to look at the notebook again one day, out of interest. It's pretty old and I like looking at my old writing.
I remember when I had writing
I remember when I used to write in a notebook.
I still do it
@Rapptz don't you have a computer? ;0
@R.MartinhoFernandes I never touch `textwidth` and still gqq does-the-right-thing (e.g. in git commit buffers) /cc @Rapptz
00:42
> We've found 17,410 repository results
NEEDS MOAR JPG
Programming jokes are so funny
I assume you have see the SO question?
They truly are mind numbing
@sehe That uses 80 by default.
00:44
@R.MartinhoFernandes good enough for me :|
I knew that my lack of mastery of the understatement would have made me too rude for English ears if I had spoken. http://www.cs.utexas.edu/users/EWD/transcriptions/EWD03xx/EWD387.html
@sehe As someone who used to listen to Rammstein (notably their song Du Hast, I find this amusing. I mostly posted it because of the awful compression though)
stdin:1 Warning: Unbalanced subclause
Fuck! Rolling stones's satisfaction is playing in my head since this morning
@Jefffrey Sorry for that
Idea.
Somebody should figure out why songs get stuck in your head.
00:48
And why awfully bad songs get stuck even more...
@Morwenn Oh, I remember "call me maybe" being stuck in my head for quite a while.
Are songs... regional?
sehe are you here?) — Dukales 6 hours ago
@Jefffrey It could be even worse. I had "Mon petit oiseau" for a while. Fortunately, only French people know this song :D
That's pretty... ^ sad
00:50
@CatPlusPlus have you considered the possibility that I could have been born before you but will die after you?
@Morwenn now I do too :(
@User17 That's my line!
@Jefffrey That's plain awful o___o
eh curiosity is the root of all evils
I just noticed re.search(...) in Python reads like "research".
00:53
@Morwenn that's pretty much the same as one I linked
@Jefffrey But this version is better :D
Ah, how I despise formal writing.
It feels so restrictive.
@Pawnguy7 in relations to all the "fuck"s you would like to give?
@Pawnguy7 It gives you precision in return, and a guarantee that you will be well understood
@Jefffrey Well, the underlying focus of it is persuasion.
Rhetorical questions sounds so much better with "you" in them.
@BartoszKP So do citations. Find me a non-English major who likes doing them.
00:56
@Pawnguy7 not sure whether I like doing them or not. I just do them when appropriate
I am yet to find somebody who enjoys them.
Anyway.
It might come across less precise or incorrect.
Since I have to stuff meaning into words not suitable for carrying it.
@Pawnguy7 what's the use of this stuff if you can't communicate it?
Use of what?
of the stuff you need to stuff into words ; )
01:00
@BartoszKP the content of the essay?
@Pawnguy7 I'm just replying to your statement in general - "problem of putting something into words, that are not suitable for carrying it" -> if there are no words that can express sth, what's the use of this sth?
@BartoszKP Making up new words!
There are words that can express it.
@R.MartinhoFernandes they need to be explained with the old ones : )
I just cannot use them.
01:03
;0 why?
It is basically like somebody not able to use std::vector,and must use an array.
Even when they know how to do both.
@BartoszKP formal writing
@Jefffrey how goes snake?
@Pawnguy7 I decided to throw all the code and start over again. This time I'm going to plan the entire game ahead and then implement it later in a single round. Mainly so that I don't try to create a game base that is overly flexible for nothing.
The more languages you know, the more things you can express.
@Jefffrey plan the features, then implement?
01:08
yes
What features have you planned?
Long as you are working these out, I may as well see if I can steal something :D
@R.MartinhoFernandes did I recall correctly that Boost Variant now optionally uses variadics? Does anyone know whether it requires some kind of preprocessor define?
(I've been looking for hints in the source/change history for a good while now)
Wouldn't that require rewriting most of it?
or do they still use boost::nothing or whatever it is for an empty arg
is there any way to do compile-time-only branches through inlining with g++? the branch should be decided at compile time, if the compiler couldn't inline and is unsure the branch should be seen as a false (so no branches are generated in the code)
01:12
@Pawnguy7 nothing special yet, I'm probably going to have items with different "powers" or something (like enlarge/shorten the snake or slow down/fasten it up).
@Rapptz Yeah, so? All code obsoleted is a win (it's almost as good as deleting) and it's gonna be much faster on the compiler
@nightcracker constexpr?
an example would be an optimization for std::reverse(unsigned char* begin, unsigned char* end) to use byteswaps if end-begin == 4, otherwise generate normal code
@Jefffrey I wanted to do that, but couldn't think of many powers, and... well, it sounds like work.
lol "it sounds like work"
I have gotten lazy, sadly.
01:14
@nightcracker Not in that way, because the args aren't statically known. Of course you can switch on std::distance(begin,end) % 0x0F
@Morwenn WTF
I have been thinking of it today and yesterday. Making a polished game will take a long time.
@Jefffrey One of the best musics around :D
@sehe the thing is, they are known to the compiler through inlining, so I wonder whether this is some extension that allows you to use this kind of information
@Pawnguy7 don't give up mate
@Morwenn we are screwed then
01:15
@nightcracker how would the values be known through inlining??!? Post a good sample on Stack Overflow. If the args are constexpr, check your constraints before passing as args (args are never constexpr. sadly)
@Jefffrey Well probably. I did too much C++ today. Therefore, I listen to this music.
oh, then it's ok :D
@Jefffrey in the past, I have also done "get it to work." That has been my approach so far. But... like, you have seen my menus. They aren't pretty. Additionally... like, any good game has nice smooth things. I have none. I have never really done things like that before, so it sohuld be a good lesson.
@Jefffrey Took me the day to answer this question: stackoverflow.com/questions/19918758/…
@Pawnguy7 you can't pretend to have nice things from the beginning if you are not willing to start somewhere :)
01:19
@Jefffrey hrm?
Anyway, as you know,I am not great at finishing things.
It would be good to finish it, even if it is ugly.
But I have this vision of finishing a game that I know is polished.
Have you ever made such a thing?
Oh - nice 150 bonus (thanks @Ell)
@Pawnguy7 wait a second, are you giving up on coding or something?
@Jefffrey no?
@Pawnguy7 good
01:23
I am curious how you drew that conclusion.
this "my game will never be perfect" argument, tricked me
Haha, the "perfectionist without a deadline" problem.
@Pawnguy7 and yes, I've been there too
Have you made a polished game, is what I meant.
oh no, never
The only project I've ever finished was a Qt C++ project last year, because university
01:27
I did a pretty refined breakout once.
I was using Game Maker at the time x)
github.com/Rapptz/doxydoc/blob/master/doxydoc.py#L62 I think this makes the regex more readable.
@Jefffrey GUI hm?
Oh and quite a lot websites prototypes in PHP back when I was a PHP guy
meh PHP
Do you also have a project graveyard?
01:29
@Pawnguy7 not sure what you mean? a folder for old projects?
@Rapptz I know :(
@Jefffrey folder of many unfinished projects, basically.
@Rapptz I finally fixed that
@Pawnguy7 yes, I'm pretty sure I have one with those PHP frameworks and website prototypes somewhere, but I'll never show them to anyone
@Rapptz i freaking love your sublime text theme
I think I made a blog post about that once.
I do too.
fancy regex highlighting
01:32
@Pawnguy7 s/make/made/
@Rapptz is that custom or did you downloaded it somewhere?
It's base16-default-light
You can get it through package control under Base 16
There seems to be a pattern here.
@Pawnguy7 school
Indeed.
I need to get more stuff done.
I was going for a censorship thing.
Sort of like "I would say the word, but they might come for me."
How do I do that in formal writing?
Saying "the author" feels very strange.
I discovered today the special rule for template parameters and rvalue references.
No wonder I felt that I missed something until today.
01:39
@Pawnguy7 do what
4 mins ago, by Pawnguy7
Sort of like "I would say the word, but they might come for me."
Still confused?
Let's pretend we are in 1984.
And you want to say Big Brother is stupid.
But you have to use formal writing.
@Pawnguy7 you want a viable synonym?
01:46
Not quite.
Basically, I cannot say "I" or "me".
But I want to represent myself.
In what phrase?
@sehe sure, but that only works by changing the API
@nightcracker If you want to be particularly evil: use a static_if MACRO
7 mins ago, by Pawnguy7
4 mins ago, by Pawnguy7
Sort of like "I would say the word, but they might come for me."
@nightcracker Well, it's your API, right. You can't specialize the std one. UB
template<typename T>
void reverse(T& x)
{
    static_if(sizeof(T) == sizeof(uint32_t))
    {
        *reinterpret_cast<uint32_t*>(&x) = byteswap32(*reinterpret_cast<uint32_t*>(&x));
    };
    static_if(sizeof(T) != sizeof(uint32_t))
    {
        auto f = reinterpret_cast<unsigned char*>(&x);
        auto l = f + sizeof(T);
        return reverse(f,l);
    };
}
01:48
like this is just an example, I know many optimizations that aren't worth run-time branches, but could benefit from inlined compiler optimizations
coliru.stacked-crooked.com/a/b4ba7e408f3626f6 <-- proof of compilation (allthough gcc doesn't appear to have byteswap32)
@sehe byteswap32 is just a placeholder
@nightcracker You know, in this case you must change the interface because otherwise the compiler will never be able to tell the size == 4 statically
@sehe why not? when the call is inlined it does
@nightcracker Why do keep insisting that "inlining" makes values statically known? It doesn't make any sense.
@nightcracker meh. I don't really care: see the code. Credits to the Schaub, 2011
I like how you don't even look at my code :/
01:52
@sehe please think outside of the c++ syntax rules box and instead in terms of compiler design
@Jefffrey need any more information?
@Pawnguy7 "I would say the word, but they might come for me." is the phrase in which you are using "I" but you are not allowed to?
I did, and (no offense), that solution would've been obvious to me if I'd wanted a std::reverse that takes one parameter
@sehe Wow. That static_if is cool!
@nightcracker Wait, now I'm wrong because you move the goal posts? Please think of me as sound asleep and far away
01:52
@Jefffrey yes. And me.
@Pawnguy7 what is the context?
What random does std::random_shuffle use?
@MarkGarcia Yeah. See credits link ^
@Jefffrey The topic of the essay?
Oh. Sod off. You're not even looking a second. Sorry to waste your my time
@Pawnguy7 The one you pass in in c++14
01:55
@Pawnguy7 what "word" are you referring to
> 25.2.11 just says that the elements are shuffled with uniform distribution. It makes no guarantees as to which RNG is used behind the scenes (unless you pass one in) so you can't rely on any such behavior
@sehe what makes you think this?
@nightcracker Because you fail to respond to the obvious point of my code. Still.
@sehe That's why I dislike those people overreacting about other people doing clever things. Those things are just so useful.
@Jefffrey The entire point is that the word never gets said :D
01:57
@Pawnguy7 why it never gets said?
@sehe the fact that if we have access to the size statically that it's possible and otherwise it's not? well that is false - once inlined we have static access to the size
@Jefffrey the topic is on political correctness :D
@sehe I'm trying to enable optimizations that use information only available after inlining
@nightcracker No we don't. If you want to discuss something else than C++, go right ahead.
Wait, that doesn't sound right.
I think topic is and on are mutually exclusive here.
01:58
@sehe I asked for g++ specific, which is a superset of c++
@Pawnguy7 that's not an answer to my question
Oh. In that case, I don't understand the question.
@nightcracker The irony is, I couldn't have gone much farther outside the box of c++ syntax rules :)
@Rapptz d'you remember the name of the font?
@nightcracker Well, g++ doesn't implement this non-standard semantics of inlining either.
01:59
@Pawnguy7 why is the "word" never get said?
@Jefffrey It's just Consolas.
cool thanks
Plooooooofff
@sehe you sure? that's sad, it could speed up some libraries quite a bit without any effort from the user =/
@sehe sorry to have wasted your time then =/
@Jefffrey If you say it, they will come after you
02:00
@Pawnguy7 so it's dangerous to say?
It is a joke in this context.
That wasn't even valid C++ syntax
@Pawnguy7 Hmm, I don't think jokes are "allowed" in formal contexts
@Jefffrey Did I mention how I didn't like formal writing?
@Rapptz What wasn't?
02:02
lol
@sehe Your example with static if
@sehe the entire idea of this kind of optimization is that inlining is used extensively in compilers making much parameters of functions that are normally only known at runtime known at compile time
13 mins ago, by sehe
http://coliru.stacked-crooked.com/a/b4ba7e408f3626f6 <-- proof of compilation (allthough gcc doesn't appear to have byteswap32)
does it?
@Rapptz Moreover, it works!
02:04
oh, sneaky.
Also, posted a 'saner' version with enable_if here:
19 mins ago, by sehe
@nightcracker Erm... enable_if? http://coliru.stacked-crooked.com/a/f4b852653ae9c76b
That's an interesting way of doing static_if though
I like it.
I wonder if lawyers like formal writing.
@Rapptz Thank @JohannesSchaublitb
That guy comes up with everything.
02:06
@Pawnguy7 Lawyers don't like anything. That's how they end up with strange objects stuck in their bums.
I don't understand nor know how to respond to that.
@Rapptz It's a toy, only. E.g. if you forget the ; after }, you might get code that compiles but does surprising things. If you return from inside the { } you'll be... well, it won't do what you think :)
Yeah I know.
@Pawnguy7 Check the context of this:
2 days ago, by Johan Larsson
I don't shower much with my phone but IANAL
I wish I could unread that.
02:18
I can't install Resharper C++ build. :(
I'll be going for tonight.
See you! Probably in a few months.
@Morwenn Will be waiting
@sehe Haha, you're too nice to be real :)
@Morwenn Be sure to come back. :)
@Morwenn Oh wait, come back. That message id was not a prime number! (41 x 314879)
@Morwenn Also, it won't really be months. How long had it been? 4 weeks, tops I think
@Morwenn ^ Shock: it really has been that long. I feel bad now for not welcoming you back earlier
02:31
gnight lads
Good night.
over and out
02:45
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Q: What should be the limits for chat bots interacting with regular users?

Mad ScientistThere is a controversy about a certain chat bot in some chat rooms. The one major disagreement is about the bot greeting new users in chat. Some users argue that this is helpful to explain the chat room rules to new users and make sure they actually notice them, while others argue that bots shoul...

TIL some chatrooms have bots.
lol. We also have one!
@MarkGarcia I'm human
We're all bots in here in some sense.
@MarkGarcia We should unix pipe the clever bot. Or run clever bot as a SaS
Its a Clever Idea
har har har
Bot that isn't the lamest joke I heard today. :P

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