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11:01 AM
Hai guys. How ya all doin?
 
user1804599
@GamesBrainiac I'm bored because weekend.
 
You love your job that much?
 
user1804599
No.
 
then why are you bored ?!
 
user1804599
But at least I'm not bored there.
 
11:05 AM
Then find something interesting to do.
Like making another language :P
 
@GamesBrainiac You could call it 'Narrow'.
 
Dood in de pot
 
user1804599
Hmm.
 
user1804599
There's lots of cool jobs around.
 
You could probably get accepted to any one of them.
 
user1804599
11:17 AM
But I have almost nothing to put on my CV. :D
 
Don't you have a job now?
 
user1804599
Jawohl.
 
Jawohl?
 
user1804599
But in about a year it'll be time for an upgrade.
 
Hmm... I guess so. Why not save some cash, and launch a startup?
 
user1804599
11:18 AM
This one looks nice. vacature.monsterboard.nl/…
 
user1804599
@GamesBrainiac I don't have ideas for good product.
 
If I had the ideas, could you make the product?
 
user1804599
Sure.
 
user1804599
Don't expect any of my money, though.
 
Hmmm, I thought so.
 
user1804599
11:19 AM
:D
 
But really, I have a great idea, I just need to make the right team.
I got 2 members so far, but I still need a 3rd one.
 
user1804599
What's the idea?
 
Well, if I told you, you'd just take it, and make money! :P
 
user1804599
Dammit.
 
Besides, its not something that'd make a lot of money, but rather would help a lot of people.
 
user1804599
11:22 AM
How am I going to live if I don't make a lot of money?
 
You don't need a lot of money to live.
As long as you have a good computer and access to the internet, you can pretty much get access to any form of entertainment ;)
But anyways, the idea is about education, and making it better.
 
user1804599
Unsuccesful.
 
Don't worry, its not a charity website :P But something that I don't want to make a lot of money off of. You could if you wanted to.
 
@GamesBrainiac organ trafficking network ?
 
Xeo
nom nom, cereals.
Too bad the vla was sold-out yesterday. :(
 
user1804599
11:29 AM
@GamesBrainiac Whether it makes money or not is not relevant to its success if the goal is not to make money.
 
@not-rightfold s/sf/ssf/
 
user1804599
The point is that nobody will use it.
 
Nope, people will. I've been wanting something like it for eons.
 
user1804599
Nobody gives a fuck about improving education. If they did, education wouldn't have been so terrible.
 
Ell
lies :o
 
11:37 AM
@not-rightfold Salman Khan from KA gives a damn. John Resig gives a damn. It will improve, but things take time.
 
Ahaha no it won't
 
Ell
lol yes it will
 
user1804599
@GamesBrainiac Those people have zero impact.
 
It will, stop being Cat.
 
Ell
^
 
Xeo
11:47 AM
@GamesBrainiac The problem with that is, that people need to find them
 
poor cat ... being the standard for crankiness ...
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Ell
He deserves that standard :3
 
@Xeo I know, but the education system is a legacy of the industrial revolution, one of its strongest legacies, actually, so it will take time to go back to the master-student way of teaching.
 
FUBAR
 
user1804599
What the education system needs is less communism.
 
user1804599
11:50 AM
And it's tenacious so fuck it.
 
user1804599
Time to get out of bed and shower and eat.
 
I don't know how you can look at this fucking world and still be an optimist about anything
3
 
because optimistic people are happier ... why wouldn't you want a free dose of happiness?
 
Ell
^
exactly that
 
lol, @Ell doing a lot of ^ today, eh? :P
 
user1804599
11:54 AM
^C
 
Ell
Yeah haha
 
@Telkitty猫咪咪 Ignorance doesn't work once you're out of the bubble
 
optimistic people also achieve more
because once you realise your chance of succeeding is only 20%, you probably won't even try ... unless you are optimisitc
but you can only make it if you try
 
@CatPlusPlus Sure, there's a lot of shit in this world. But, if we're so short-sited that we see just whats in front of us, then we can never imagine how wonderful something could be.
 
and maybe you will make it after trying it for 7 or 8 times
 
user1804599
11:57 AM
@Telkitty猫咪咪 And then you will invest a shitload of money in /dev/null.
 
user1804599
Congrats!
 
@GamesBrainiac You can extrapolate
 
@not-rightfold that's if you learnt nothing from your previous 6 - 7 times failures.
the reality is that for an intelligent person, you will learn something every time you fail
 
Do you know the definition of insanity
 
user1804599
PHP.
 
Ell
11:59 AM
@CatPlusPlus which bubble?
 
all geniuses are insane
 
The happy LALALA I CANT SEE WHERE EVERYTHINGS GOING optimist ignorance bubble
 
Ell
Being unhappy has no benefits :3
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@Ell It teaches you to avoid the circumstances that made you unhappy.
 
Being alive has no benefits either
 
12:00 PM
it obviously has benefits, else we would not have evolved the capacity for unhappiness.
 
Ell
@CatPlusPlus right.
But it's more effort to kill yourself than not
 
@CatPlusPlus really? I love to be alive
there are so many toys I can potentially play with, which I wouldn't be able to if I was dead
 
user1804599
If you get children, you're a sadist.
 
Ell
@DeadMG evolutionarily yes
but after you've grown up, then there is no benefit to it
 
There's no benefit in being poor, so stop being poor poor people!
 
user1804599
12:02 PM
The only reason for you existing is to get children so your species doesn't become extinct. :v
 
Ell
@CatPlusPlus Being poor or rich is much harder to change than being happy or unhappy
 
user1804599
It's the only point of life.
 
user1804599
So you could just as well not care.
 
Ell
@not-rightfold the only point of life is the one you give it
 
No, it's not
Happiness is not a fucking switch
 
Ell
12:03 PM
It is for me
Now anyways
 
"Oh I'm unhappy. I guess I should stop! There, I'm happy again!"
 
user1804599
It is a fucking switch. Fucking switches it from unhappy to happy.
 
Utter nonsense
 
Ell
Not for me
As soon as I realise I'm unhappy
then I just become happy again :3
 
user1804599
You also like MySQL.
 
Ell
12:04 PM
you just think "what is the point in being unhappy right now?"
@not-rightfold [citation needed]
 
user1804599
26 secs ago, by not-rightfold
You also like MySQL.
 
Ell
that's not a citation :P
 
You're one of those people who'd tell a suicidal person to get over it
Complete ignorance of depression spirals
 
Ell
I'm not one of those people at all
 
user1804599
 
user1804599
12:07 PM
WANT
 
Ell
I'm really not ignorant of that. Being unhappy and being depressed are different things
 
@Ell Er, evolution and adolescence are two completely different things.
anyway
 
user1804599
inb4 pain
 
the core point to realize here is that happiness or not is a human mental state and therefore far more complex than any human-designed system.
hormones, brain circuitry, epigenetics, all that shit.
 
Ell
Right
 
12:10 PM
it's like appetite- you're an idiot if you think it's a simple matter at all.
 
Ell
Maybe it's just me with the happiness thing
 
well, ask yourself
why would anyone, ever, be unhappy if they could choose to be happy?
 
user1804599
Because they’re emo.
 
unhappiness just wouldn't really exist.
 
Ell
Maybe they haven't learned to control it yet?
Yeah I guess. I mean
I always used to be really unhappy all the time
 
12:11 PM
Look, if Cat wasn't unhappy all the time, then loungc++ would lose rating points.
 
Ell
and depressed
 
@Ell Maybe you haven't learned to control your effect on gravity.
tell me when you do
 
we're trying to run a commedy show here :P
 
user1804599
elliot rhymes with idiot
 
@DeadMG Easy, you just need to get really fat
 
12:12 PM
dinner last night ... baby abalone
 
Ell
But after I got out of my depression I have a much better outlook on life now and I just stop myself from being unhappy
Idk. Maybe I'm kidding myself
 
user1804599
@Telkitty猫咪咪 disgusting.
 
well, more importantly
 
That's dinner? Looks like 1/20th of one.
 
@Telkitty猫咪咪 holy shit, thats awesome.
 
12:13 PM
any given person's experience of unhappiness is tied to genes that were activated or not as children, hormone levels, and how their brain is wired.
it's simply not a transferrable experience.
simple fact is, almost every factor that influences our behaviour is out of our control
 
pacific rim made no sense
 
I kinda liked it
 
user1804599
I want a frikandel with onions, mayonnaise and curry; a hamburger with onions, mayonnaise and curry; and fries with mayonnaise and satay.
 
the whole "Build a wall" thing was lol, though.
 
user1804599
12:15 PM
@GamesBrainiac What is it about? Rimming in the pacific?
 
hey guise, to stop the GIANT MONSTERS, we'll just make an epic-level wall!
 
user1804599
So hungry.
 
pfft
your hunger has nothing on mine
 
user1804599
Infuse.
 
@Telkitty猫咪咪 Pretty plain for you :)
 
user1804599
12:19 PM
I’ll eat a sausage roll with ketchup for breakfast.
 
@MartinJames Oo ... this is probably not :p (from a few days ago)
 
This is not instagram people!
 
Adult Privilege is not having to travel in fear alone at night (ETA: Other minorities do share similar experiences.)
 
Go make people feel hungry somewhere else :P
 
12:20 PM
@CatPlusPlus tumblr is shit.
 
@GamesBrainiac Yes, that's why we make fun of it
 
@GamesBrainiac I'm imune. I had a Thai curry last night and a cheese/tomato sandwich and a kit-kat an hour ago. All I need now is beer.
 
user1804599
Kit-Kat is disgusting.
 
..oh, and an automated lawn mower.
 
user1804599
Milk chocolate is terrible.
 
user1804599
12:22 PM
I don't know how people can eat this shit.
 
user1804599
Not to mention white chocolate.
 
@not-rightfold Hah! My Kit-kats are the dark choc kind :)
 
Screw you all for making me feel hungry.
I'm goin out to get some chips
brb
I'll get some chocolate milk too :)
 
user1804599
boulanger.nl < these fuckers make good chocolate.
 
user1804599
12:28 PM
No.
 
do they at least have no padding in between ?
 
Fuck, I got the Dell U2412M yesterday, and today I woke up with the same headache I had one day after the U2412M was introduced at work.
I think I am sensitive to IPS glow and/or PWM flicker.
Gonna try the Eizo FS2331 next.
 
user1804599
It’s your punishment for not installing Gentoo.
 
So I got punished the first time for not installing Gentoo at work? :)
 
@A.H. They wouldn't do, packed or not.
 
12:34 PM
@DeadMG good to know, so its safe to load from file by byte copy ?
 
sure.
it would be padding or not.
also
pro tip: the size must always be a multiple of the alignment.
 
oh yeah that makes sense, the size part
 
it's the alignment that adds the extra two bytes at the start.
 
so I can do like file.read ((char*)&header, sizeof(BitmapHeader)); and its totally safe?
 
er, sizeof(54)?
no, use sizeof(T).
 
12:38 PM
but that will make it read more than the actual bitmap header, right?
 
no.
 
user1804599
You need (char *)&header + 2 if the alignment adds two bytes, not?
 
it will make it read exactly the bitmap header you defined.
 
its supposed to be 54 but sizeof(T) says 56
 
then you set the alignment incorrectly.
or maybe some of the data members.
because the structure you defined clearly must have a size of 56.
 
12:39 PM
its this now I removed the attributes
 
it's the odd 16bit integer that causes it.
 
Is the proccess of creating bytecode from source code a compilation?
 
removing the 4byte alignment from the attribute, it doesn't really matter.
the 4byte integer data members can only be on a 4byte alignment. Maybe you can override the compiler and force it to a 2byte alignment.
 
user1804599
@DavidKron Of course.
 
user1804599
What else would it be?
 
12:41 PM
@DavidKron yep.
 
@not-rightfold A conversion?
 
user1804599
Then what would be a compilation?
 
user1804599
Machine code is also just byte code.
 
@DeadMG but isn't a 32 bit aligned address also 16 bit aligned?
 
Thanks for the support yesterday people. Looks like the annoying flag thing is resolved meta.stackoverflow.com/a/199710/155197
 
12:42 PM
@A.H. Irrelevant. There are data members that need 32bit alignment, so the whole structure must be 32bit aligned.
damn, you're back again?
 
@DeadMG so how would I read 54 bytes of data in a file in one go and fill out that struct?
force it with packed?
 
@A.H. How would I know? I'm not a file reading guy.
 
Ell
@A.H. read all the bytes and then do bit shifting I think
 
@DeadMG you should try and read, its good for you
 
@A.H. Why not read one integer at a time?
 
12:45 PM
I have read everything I desire to read.
 
memcpying into a struct smells like C
 
user1804599
Use BMP library.
 
user1804599
Don't write any software yourself ever.
 
@not-rightfold not allowed to
@willj its not efficient
 
@A.H. I want to see a side by side comparison with timings ;)
 
Ell
12:47 PM
@A.H. What makes you say that?
 
and a reason for the need for BMP loading to be fast, even
 
@Ell well every read is a syscall right ? on that basis alone one should be better than n
 
@A.H. Er, buffering?
 
if only C++ had reflection, you could generate the code that reads each member from a stream
 
Xeo
Serialization seems to be the most common reason for "I want reflection"
 
12:57 PM
@DeadMG you mean by ifstream ?
 
@willj There is a proposal for adding compile-time reflection to C++, where you can simply say getMembers or something and you get the data members as a tuple, which you can then process via variadic templates.
 
@FredOverflow Yes please! Though I already do much the same using macros.
 
@willj eww
prepare to be shunned!
 
well
time for The DeadMG to go to The Bed.
 
BedMG?
 
1:02 PM
@DeadMG nighty
 
that's terribly unpunny
 
@melak47 Shun macros, and shun almost the entirety of boost ;)
 
@DeadMG night :)
 
well
undoubtedly I'll be back here at about midnight bitching about how bad my stomach is
 
1:03 PM
@willj sticks fingers in ears eyes Lalala I can't hear read you!
@DeadMG so cut back on the midnight snacks :>
 
@Jefffrey Are you doing an AMA or what? :)
 
@FredOverflow What's an AMA? :/
 
@Jefffrey Ask Me Anything
When you do an AMA on reddit, it is required that you post a picture that says "reddit" somewhere as proof.
 
Oh, I feel like I should have known that. But no, yesterday someone was whining about lack of pasta and I said I would have cooked pasta for the Lounge today.
 
I made rice, should I post a picture as well? :)
 
1:16 PM
@Jefffrey it's not a lot. How did you expect to feed us all?
 
I got my chips! :D
Maybe we can turn this into Lounge<Instagram>
 
no.
 
user1804599
@A.H. premature optimization.
 
user1804599
1:42 PM
 
2:07 PM
Man. What was with the formatting. This is such a turn-off. Just think: Out("TexT.txt") - how many errors does one think this code has? — sehe 19 secs ago
Ew @Jefffrey
 
you binned pasta ?!
 
YES!!!
Sep 19 at 15:14, by DeadMG
Some of us have delicate stomachs these days, you know.
 
how sensitive of you
 
I'm quite sensitive. I don't want to start puking the moment I see this thread. That was awesomely repelling
 
its the effort that counts, he tried to feed us !
 
2:09 PM
There's an awesome comment about it. But it has been posted in the wrong place. — sehe 3 secs ago
 
Ell
@sehe the pasta? o.O
 
♫ I've seen the light but not the kind I would have liked ♪
Jake Bugg is just awesome.
 
lol the dog
 
2:27 PM
So cute :3
 
user1804599
I hate that species.
 
Ell
@not-rightfold breed?
 
Maybe he hates all dogs?
 
user1804599
Fuck dogs.
 
user1804599
Humans ftw.
 
user1804599
2:30 PM
And nautili.
 
@sehe Maybe it's too easy to confuse the answer box with the comment box? stackoverflow.com/questions/19184121/…
 
user1804599
No, it's not.
 
user1804599
People who post comments as answers are just braindead.
 
Not as bad as posting questions as answers.
 
user1804599
That's brainrotten.
 
2:38 PM
As long as nobody posts comments as questions...
 
user1804599
I should start a SEO company so I can make a lot of money for adding a meta tag to a web page.
 
@FredOverflow He hates everything.
 
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lol systax. A tax on systems? :)
 
syntax ... synchronized tax
 
sintax (paying for sex)
 
2:53 PM
did not know sex was a sin
 
lol, the face of that guy.
 
user1804599
lol “that guy”
 
Not the C++ God, the guy smiling in first row, you silly.
 
He laughs at STL's comment that Microsoft's implementation of the standard libary still does not go to eleven :)
(The weird macro hack for simulating variadic templates only goes to 10.)
Fuck it, I have to find that part...
 
He has been probably teased by his friends because he always though "OOP != never use free functions". That smile discharge all his frustration.
 
3:01 PM
I read that paper the the day that claimed teaching Java was problematic because System.out.println was not OO, and printing should instead be wrapped in an object. WTF?
 
lol
 
I hate people who say everything must be forced 100% into OO, or else it's not "pure". So what?
 
Everyone is bad at OO
 
user1804599
Joe Armstrong is good at OO.
 
Neil Armstrong went to the mOOn.
 
user1804599
3:03 PM
lol
 
@CatPlusPlus Even them who were born rich due to inheritance?
3
 
@DeadMG Watched it last night. Interesting development at the end.
 
I hate it when nobody fucking calls their lanes in chat.
 
user1804599
this->lane()
 
@EtiennedeMartel What does that mean?
 
3:13 PM
@FredOverflow It means many League of Legends players are idiots.
 
user1804599
lol
 
I mean, fuck, tell me where you want to go so that I pick something that makes sense.
But everyone's playing in their own little bubble.
It's a team game. That means teamwork. And that requires communication.
 
There is no team in teamwork!
 
user1804599
Teamwork is a lot of people doing what I say.
 
Alright, captain.
That's also another thing that gets on my nerves.
The people who assume they're the leader and spend the whole game throwing orders around.
2
 
lol, he enjoys it so much.
 
How could you not enjoy STL? :)
 
user1804599
C++.
 
"a simple, concise example of what I'm talking about would be very helpful." - I second the motion. Note that lexing is sequential by nature. States can be switched, but you can't backtrack. I think you want Spirit Qi instead. — sehe 10 secs ago
 
But he is so adorable!
 
user1804599
3:27 PM
I'm allergic to adorableness.
 
@not-rightfold Insert asdfmovie reference here.
 
He also loves puppies (dogs).
 
I'm adorable to allergicness.
 
You're a bear.
 
user1804599
I'm hungry.
 
3:36 PM
Eating usually helps against hunger.
 
user1804599
I’m going to eat frikandel speciaal met friet met mayo en saté.
 
Meatballs with fries?
 
user1804599
No.
 
user1804599
Frikandels.
 
user1804599
A frikandel (plural frikandellen) is a Dutch snack, a sort of minced-meat hot dog, developed either in 1954 or in 1958/1959 in the Netherlands, depending on the source. Overview It is a long, skinless, dark-coloured meat sausage which is usually eaten on warm to hot temperature. Unlike most sausages, the frikandel is deep-fried, unless included in a frikandellen broodje, in that case they are finished by baking. In Belgium and in the north of France it is called a "frikadel", "fricandelle" or "fricadelle". In the Flanders region of Belgium, it can also be called "curryworst" (not to be...
 
Xeo
3:39 PM
frikandel special with french fries, mayo and salad
is my guess
 
user1804599
No, satay.
 
user1804599
Not salad.
 
user1804599
The other parts are correct.
 
Xeo
whatever satay is
 
user1804599
Satay (, ), or sate, is a dish of seasoned, skewered and grilled meat, served with a sauce. Satay may consist of diced or sliced chicken, goat, mutton, beef, pork, fish, other meats, or tofu; the more authentic version uses skewers from the midrib of the coconut palm frond, although bamboo skewers are often used. These are grilled or barbecued over a wood or charcoal fire, then served with various spicy seasonings. Satay originated in Java, Indonesia. Satay is available almost anywhere in Indonesia, where it has become a national dish. It is also popular in many other Southeast Asian c...
 
user1804599
3:41 PM
> Satay seller in Java, c. 1870.
 
user1804599
> Java
 
user1804599
Apparently they only eat it in Java and in the Netherlands.
 

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