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22:00
@sehe If you're sick,
I don't want to be healthy. <3
I got another request for interview today.
@TonyTheLion Woot
Hmmm
Its actually something I'd want to do, but there's a catch
@TonyTheLion Not enthused? I'm not sure you're actively looking, but I did catch you ranting about lousy job ads, so... maybe?
@TonyTheLion It's in Spain?
it pays less than my current job :/
@sehe I have been actively looking
22:02
@TonyTheLion How little is less? Also, any chance you might negotiate something?
Because, if it's not problematic, or it looks like an environment where you can grow and prove your value over time, it may not be too bad
Not necessarily problematic
depending how much they would offer, if they did make me an offer
So, you're going, I trust?
Going where?
To the interview, silly.
Donno yet
22:05
@TonyTheLion Go. Interview experience never hurts.
The result type is "Bin".
the garbage collector
aww, i should have put that in the clipboard
Is a job with MFC/Win32 worth considering?
someone might ask that in Tony's interview ;P
22:08
@TonyTheLion No.
Didn't you hate legacy code?
@TonyTheLion But you might consider a job at my employer.
You know.
I'm subtlety incarnate.
@EtiennedeMartel What if I didn't like it? Then I'd have moved to Canada for no reason.
I'm not taking that risk
@TonyTheLion Impossibru.
That's what you think. I'm not easy to please.
22:09
Look at the @thecoshman. He can't even fit in doors anymore because of the size of his balls.
There's no way to fix this is there?
@TonyTheLion Oh oh.
I have seriously know idea how things are progressing for him.
I'm not being told anything.
oh
perhaps go and ask?
@Rapptz Well, the syntax error is easily fixed, but you're trying to insert a range of unordered_map<K, T> into ... an unordered_map<K, T>?
that doesn't make sense.
22:11
@TonyTheLion Maybe.
@DeadMG Oh you made me realise my mistake (I forgot typename T::value_type)
or well, std::pair
Yeah...
about that std::pair...
std::pair<ball, ball> balls;
okay, now that works.
22:13
Yeah that was my intent.
user142019
@TonyTheLion That's a pair of balls.
That's a statement of the obvious ^
@ThePhD :P
Ell
Ell
Hi guys
How does one get memory leaks in Java?
22:21
generally, by leaving references to objects around when they're not really needed.
@TonyTheLion Of course it is. Depends on the field, the product, the team etc.
Oh. Like if they add something to a list when it is created, and never remove it?
yes
I'm thinking about getting Effective C++ as my next tech book. But it looks like the 3rd edition is a bit dated. Does anyone know if there's any news about an updated 4th edition any time soon?
I wouldn't think that would be hard to avoid... hrm
22:23
@MonadNewb Not due out until 2014, IIRC.
@Pawnguy7 You just have to be sure to set references to null after they are no longer needed.
@DeadMG hrmm...I might just have to buy the 3rd edition if I don't want to wait that long. Thanks.
@sehe Your answers have always been great, but lately they are simply amazing. stackoverflow.com/search?q=user:85371+[boost-spirit] is a great learning resource about spirit. — cv_and_he 9 mins ago
^ aw. too kind (for the record, cv_and_he is the lost son of :))
I don't know what boost_spirit is supposed to do.
user142019
Can't wait till tomorrow evening.
user142019
Going to install PostgreSQL and write a deploy script. :3
22:25
@IMX You already did it!
@sehe Your not-license has been canceled, here's your new one: sehe-so-helpful
I have a list of: Messages I want to bin. I want: the messages to be binned. Solution: bin them.
:10616407 Use vim %s/^.*$/"&"/
Lol
That reminds me, someday I should learn regex.
22:26
The bin knows how to regex.
regex is easy
user142019
Use Perl.
I would imagine so, I just haven't used it yet.
@sehe right, seems sensible.
holy shit, man
22:27
C++11 has that, correct?
I just realized that I actually lost 28 pounds from when I started.
IMX
IMX
Its in Notepad++
@Pawnguy7 It sucks beyond belief.
@DeadMG Gratz?
Ell
Ell
regexen are super easy
22:28
Is the plural actually regexen or is it just in this room?
@TonyTheLion I've been in two projects I didn't dislike employing MFC. However, the last one was beginning to feel heavy with legacy. TBH, that was down to the ultra-conservative project lead, mostly
@Borgleader Before, I never actually noticed if my weight went up or down.
@Rapptz I have no idea.
Ell
Ell
@Rapptz I think this room
I just picked it up from sehe
might be one of those words like roof where there's more than one legal plural.
I feel as if the actual plural would be just regex.
22:28
regexes.
user142019
while (<>) {
    $_ =~ s/^([a-z])$/"$1"/;
    print "$_\n";
}
user142019
Done.
regexi
Ell
Ell
regices doesn't sound right
regexia
22:29
@sehe The people you work with have a lot to do with how much you like your job, I think that's a large part of my problem currently.
user142019
regexen
@rightfold Mine was considerably more to the point
nothing wrong with just regexes.
@TonyTheLion Yup. That happens too
Ell
Ell
what is $_ and <>?
22:29
Jul 5 at 11:18, by R. Martinho Fernandes
@sehe @sehe oh don't give me etymology. It's "mutices" and "regices".
Jul 5 at 11:19, by R. Martinho Fernandes
Regices sounds even sillier than mutices. I like it.
user142019
I wonder how to best minimize downtime while upgrading worker processes.
I want to work with all the Loungers
@rightfold bribes
user142019
Upgrade them serially instead of in parallel?
you might actually learn something about C++ from me :P
22:30
@TonyTheLion that's a mistake
@DeadMG I might. :P
@sehe Hmmmm
if I had money, I'd hire you
but I don't
user142019
Not helping.
slavery ensues
22:31
lol
user142019
inb4 sehe the Cryptographer.
@sehe are you @tweetsbi?
@rightfold I like how the top #2 and #3 hits are biblical references from Proverbs (yay) and Ecclesiastes (boring)
@MonadNewb lol. Yeah. Makes a heap of sense
user142019
> biblical reference
user142019
22:32
> yay
Proverbs rocks
@sehe It can be. Before you work with all the loungers, you need to make significant progress on the project by yourself.
@MonadNewb lol
> Extortion turns a wise person into a fool, and a bribe corrupts the heart.
Ell
Ell
I tried to read the bible once
couldn't get into it
22:33
if we worked for @rightfold we'd never get anything done
3
also ponies
I just created a twitter account for with my Code Guru handle...so now I'm looking for ppl I know from the lounge
Ell
Ell
if we worked for @TonyTheLion pr0n would be SFW
@CPPLoungeAsylum, Internetz
most of the fun comes from batshit statements from the various insane asshats that lurk in here.
89 tweets, 38 followers, following 27 users
@Ell hahaha
@TonyTheLion That sounds about right
@ThePhD on the project. Meh. No. People in the lounge might be nice to lounge with. At a distance. But once you're in the same boat, sharing a fate and a responsibility, relations change. You might actually not be so patient with that one guy, or not be so forgiving of that cowboy coder anymore
22:34
@Ell He would have a habit fo showing up the moment we mentioned "boobs", "tits", "women" or something NSFW popped up on the screen.
user142019
Argh.
@sehe <3 Cowboy Coding~
@sehe inb4 cowboy_cast
@MonadNewb Of course tweetsbi is sbi. I'm sehetw
user142019
I created a new user in Linux but now:
user142019
22:35
rightfold@vps ~ $ nginx
-bash: nginx: command not found
user142019
I think la PATH est fucked-up.
Oh please not the cowboy thing again
Ell
Ell
locate nginx
@MonadNewb Guess my name.
Ell
Ell
yahr
user142019
22:36
rightfold@vps ~ $ locate nginx
-bash: locate: command not found
user142019
@Ell :D
@AndyProwl What, you didn't like it? :3
Ell
Ell
@rightfold oh gawd :P
user142019
Ah. /usr/sbin is missing from PATH.
@ThePhD I had nightmares :)
user142019
22:37
Also I should install Z shell.
@EtiennedeMartel I found you already =p
@AndyProwl The force of the UB was too great for you to handle~~
user142019
rightfold@vps ~ $ which nginx
/usr/sbin/nginx
user142019
Hurray! @Ell Thanks.
Kind of, I guess
22:38
@sehe oh right...I have no idea how I got that mixed up lol
I feel like there's something I should know about why this happens, but I don't.
For anyone that cares, my new twitter account is @CodeGuru42
I keep forgetting I can't paste images into here.
What is that?
It's not a picture pasted into here
22:40
Add "from the clipboard".
@MonadNewb Of course.
user142019
lol
@EtiennedeMartel o_0
do... do I say thank you>?
@thecoshman Hmm?
but yeah, in theory I was going to do a skype interview tonight, but there was a slight mix up. I was told '6 our time' which was supposed to be '6 your time', so it go moved to tomorrow night, but then that got further postponed till Wednesday...
I did think it a bit strange her wanting to do an interview 6pm your time, as she was aware of the time difference... but I just went with it
22:47
@AndyProwl, You know everything. Answer this: stackoverflow.com/questions/17665110/…
@chris I wish I did. I'm looking at that one actually, it's interesting
@EtiennedeMartel sizeof...(balls)
user142019
SSH is a great invention.
@chris Ah, I think I know why: the built-in operator + for pointers take a std::ptrdiff_t as the right hand operand
@AndyProwl Wow, that's tricky.
22:52
@chris See § 13.6/13
@thecoshman Well, it would kinda make sense considering my boss usually leaves at 8.
 error: ambiguous overload for 'operator+' (operand types are 'A' and 'std::ptrdiff_t {aka long long int}')
     int* i = x + std::ptrdiff_t(1);
guess so
@rightfold shh don't tell any one though, they will ask questions
@chris Why isn't that trivial? I mean doesn't it chooses operator int() because i is an int?
@EtiennedeMartel yeah, you I recalled you saying late working hours was not unusual... still, 100% not my fault :D so no sweat
22:54
@AndyProwl I hope you're working on that answer. You earned it.
@Jeffrey But you can add integers to integers and add integers to pointers.
So how should it know which you want?
@chris I am, I posted a first draft
But it seems Andy's done it again.
> Be sure to hug your introvert today.
It was only a couple of pages down
@StackedCrooked uhoh, people are getting jealous of my special abilities on Coliru:
@sehe Do you do anything special to compile spirit code successfully on coliru? The times I've tried, even with really simple programs, it has always timed out. — cv_and_he 3 mins ago
22:57
@chris It should choose int because I want x + 1 to be evaluated as int (since i is declared as such)?
@Jeffrey Return type doesn't factor into overload resolution.
@chris Honestly I don't find the behaviour that surprising.
@chris Oh, didn't know that. Why not?
@Rapptz I've been on both sides of this fence. I know how it feels to wonder how it could possibly do anything different than what I want.
user142019
22:59
Yeah me too but this behaviour is a Good Thing™ so I don't mind it.
@Jeffrey I'm not overly sure. I could not clear up the situation at all by saying that the return type is not part of the function signature, but the same why is still there.

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