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19:00
I don't know.
@DeadMG so the fact that it is a prvalue (hence rvalue) is what is stopping us from changing it's value?
@Tuntuni I first heard it on a "Dubstep with DnB" program. Presented by a Belgian DJ called Murdock.
@StackedCrooked sounds like with some DnB
pretty terrible, if you ask me, but hey, that's taste.
I appreciate the minimalism of the noise. I mean it's very noisy, but it's achieved with minimal means.
Ah, TSVN just froze in my face again.
It's hard to appreaciate OSTs unless you've played the game. :/
Playing the game makes you sort of link the music with a certain event in the game.
Much more epic to listen to then.
@Tuntuni Currently still listening to your OST. However, I do want to mention this one. (I've linked it several times here over the years.)
@StackedCrooked What do you think?
It's tolerable. Pleasant even.
19:06
Awww yisss
:D
@Tuntuni That's only true for decent OSTs.
Great OSTs also happen to be good music, which means they can stand on their own.
@EtiennedeMartel True, but it's much better if you've played the game.
Because otherwise you're not really enjoying the song, you're only enjoying the memories you get from it.
Yes, just like the one I posted. I didn't even finish watching the anime because it was horrible. However, the OST is the best ever.
It's the nostalgia factor.
19:08
@StackedCrooked Cool, reminds me of another OST. :D
@EtiennedeMartel Well said. :D
And that's bad.
I do enjoy the music too though.
But the nostalgia makes it better.
Why would that be bad lol
It's not like I'm forcing myself to listen to it just because I have memories of it.
I want to listen to it because it's so good (both the game and the OST).
Enjoying the music and remembering all those good times you've had - double win.
@StackedCrooked why don't you listen to the white noise then? That's pretty minimal
The second OP of Code Geass season 1 had a seemingly horrible song. However, I started like it after a few listens and now I love it.
@StackedCrooked I think that happened to me too. let me check which one it is
19:11
@BartekBanachewicz There's no art in that silly.
@StackedCrooked omg yes, that's the one. hahah the exact same thing happened to me
@StackedCrooked arguably there's no art in noise either :)
I listen to it on the bus
Actually, I only listen to anime stuff while I'm on the bus lol
Lelouch is alive!
I know he is!
Damn right! :D One of my friends keeps saying he's dead so I along with another friend bash him. :D
He doesn't want to change his opinion.
He says I'm basing my "theory" on a deleted scene.
But that's how it was meant to be! >:)
19:15
@Tuntuni He says he is dead?
@Jeffrey Yes.
Le louche.
@Tuntuni It doesn't make much sense. Does it?
@StackedCrooked Hahahahah
114 likes boi
nice
@Jeffrey Of course not! :D Heresy!
19:17
@Tuntuni Actually it might. How does he justify that?
@Jeffrey Well there was a last scene in which CC says something along the lines of "Right, Lelouch?" and then the camera switches to him (you can only see the bottom half of his face) and he smiles.
This scene was later deleted so the viewer could come up with his own interpretation which is bullshit if you ask me.
Interesting though.
@EtiennedeMartel I quite like this one
@Jeffrey I can't tell if you're being sarcastic or not. >.> :P
@Tuntuni Wow, you are like the 13th person to tell me that. But actually the first one not IRL. I wasn't being sarcastic in this case.
19:20
as always; I'm bored.
@Jeffrey Haha. =P
@refp Me too!
@Tuntuni That was the video my comment was for (he looked a bit like a farmer with his hat). But for some reason the OP changed the video into something else.
@StackedCrooked :(
@Rapptz pff.. we are at war, got so many more votes for your answer compared to mine on some random question today. it's ON! ;-)
19:21
Also, this is a good one: youtube.com/watch?v=2bosouX_d8Y (from Hitman Absolution).
@Rapptz jokes aside; what's up?
Fucking around with std::bind and callbacks.
@Rapptz show me the porn.
Haha
lol
19:23
@StackedCrooked Have you watched Darker than Black?
I like the first two OPs.
Currently watching Gemini.
do you think my new C++11 FAQ article about dependent names is too technical?
I haven't seen it.
i wonder about whether i should remove the terms "current instantiation" and "unknown specialization" and instead describe things more naturally
19:25
@JohannesSchaub-litb I don't think being "too technical" is bad.
but it's difficult without losing too much detail :(
Then don't.
SO is made for quality posts.
5
A: Where and why do I have to put the "template" and "typename" keywords?

Johannes Schaub - litbC++11 Problem While the rules in C++03 about when you need typename and template are largely reasonable, there is one annoying disadvantage of its formulation template<typename T> struct A { typedef int result_type; void f() { // error, "this" is dependent, "template" keyword needed ...

it seems to me all that formal stuff like "Based on this notion, the language says that CurrentInstantiation::Foo, Foo and CurrentInstantiationTyped->Foo (such as A *a = this; a->Foo) are all member of the current instantiation if blah blah" sounds too dry
in C#, 1 min ago, by Mike
http://imgur.com/a/xqNb8
19:33
Oh god...
cooled that one
Wrong side and about 100 times too much T_T so much fail
yeah, he went for permanent cooling
probably rigged
@Mysticial should see this
oh lol
that has to be fake.
user142019
19:36
Hello.
@JohannesSchaub-litb I don't think it covers this case stackoverflow.com/questions/17642624/…
@willj i think they are all not potentially evaluated, so "this->" is not added, so they stay non-dependent
1
Q: static function lookup from a template function issue with xlC

wilxWhile I was searching for clues about a compilation problem I have had in my source, I have come across this bug report (against Mozilla's JavaScript engine source) related to functions lookup. Quoting from the bug report: TypedArrayTemplate is (obviously) a template, and it is referencing IN...

19:41
Think I should be throwing an exception when trying to compare NaN?
@chris Yes
I suck at floating-point anything.
I'm still not overly sure how to properly test for equality lol. Sure there's relative and ULPs, but the ULPs seems hackish, and I wouldn't know when to use what epsilon for relative.
@Borgleader lol...
So did it work?
@JohannesSchaub-litb I'm sorry, I'm to ...tired to give my opinion right now. Maybe tomorrow morning.
@willj sizeof(C::f1()) is ill-formed because you are not allowed to access that non-static member function - see 5.1.1p13
@StackedCrooked thanks for looking anyway. much appreciated!
19:46
@JohannesSchaub-litb but apart from that, it's a dry subject ;).
@JohannesSchaub-litb good call.. but I can rewrite it without the sizeof
Ugh... no wonder I couldn't repwhore any answers... SO is having cache problems again...
I wasn't using <string> library but the string type built in the other library. I think that is <windows.h> that's why comparing if(mystr1 != mystr2) didn't work. Thanks anyway :D — matsuoka 22 secs ago
:|
ugh.
Fuck everyone using strcmp.
damn its 88F. can't wait to run outside :/
I miss the frozen tundra
@Rapptz I knew it!
19:51
@JohannesSchaub-litb I think dry and technical is the only way to go - the audience is limited to dry and technical people anyhow. The only criticism I would have is that it left me with a feeling that C++11 just made it all even more complicated - I'm sure that wasn't the impression you intended!
then I think, it becomes dependent and a member of an unknown specialization.
@willj ah thanks for the feedback. much appreciated
@Rapptz Fuck everyone using the C std lib in C++
I don't know what OP's problem is
I voted to close
@JohannesSchaub-litb but what makes it a member of an unknown specialization? C is not dependent.
but "this->C::foo()" matches the bullet 3.1 of the definition of "member of an unknown specialization"
20:00
@JohannesSchaub-litb aww, draft n3242 is insufficiently up to date in that area
of course, this only applies if you assume that the implicit this transformation applies before that analysis. so to be sure how clang & other compilers do it, I recommend testing it
they disagree :(
the one stating "the type of the object expression is the current instantiation, the current instantiation has at least one dependent base class, and name lookup of the id-expression does not find a member of a class that is the current instantiation or a non-dependent base class thereof; .."
correction, they both agree C::f1() is dependent
is n3242 the final C++11 draft?
20:02
So if operator< works for floating-point numbers, why can't we just do if (!(a < b) && !(b < a)) to compare for equality?
@JohannesSchaub-litb yes
@willj chapter 9 doesn't have any special treatment of templates, so I suspect that the "implicit this" will be done immediately, before the template voodoo analysis
(Barring NaN of course)
@JohannesSchaub-litb it's certainly easier to implement it that way
user142019
# emerge -1vat portage
(giant stacktrace)
portage.exception.InvalidAtom: virtual/libffi:
user142019
20:05
:/
rather than attempting to do overload resolution for C::f() with a dependent implied object argument (which is sort of possible..)
@JohannesSchaub-litb wait.. a call to a nonstatic member in the operand sizeof is not allowed? 5.1.1 allows an id-expression naming a nonstatic member within a nonstatic member function.
@willj but only of its own class or its base classes
otherwise private or protected member functions would be pretty useless :)
hrm.. C may be a base, but that cannot be known until instantiation
hm i guess it's this way around: 5.1.1 allows TheMembersClassOrItsDerivedClass->PossibleQualifier::TheMember
and the implicit "this", if added, is separately checked to refer to the members class or one of its derived classes.
Damn, did I just find my dream job?

Software Developer - develop tools to aid the diagnosis of…

BlueGnome, an Illumina company

BlueGnome is a leading developer of microarray based diagnostic tests with applications in Molecular Cytogenetics;…

Posted on Careers 2.0 on July 10, 2013

(oneboxing for Careers, nice)
user142019
20:29
Does anyone here use Fedora for a server? Is it reliable? How good is its package manager and how well does it work with updating?
Oops, Visual Studio. Nope.
@willj i guess the dependent name FAQ could use some answer describing all this.. but it's going to be complicated, spec quoting and all.
> STL and/or Boost
It does not specify what version of Visual Studio either. For all you know, you might be stuck with 2005.
@JohannesSchaub-litb it's not exactly a "frequently asked" one
20:30
i see :)
@KonradRudolph Tss tss.
Oh! Now I understand the mind of the engineers behind XAML/WPF. They are ensuring job security.
WPF is awesome
Of course. If you want to change the style of a button, you have to create 10 lines of non-sense XML.
> Working within a software development team to achieve delivery of version releases according planned schedules.
poor grammar; do not apply
20:37
Heh I'm having an arms race with some other dude, we keep improving our answers xD
Lol
Borgleader is heading down the Prowl'd Path.
As long as it does not go nuclear.
Anybody free to give a program structure opinion. I have an OpenGL code that combines grayscale images and combines them into a picture using cuda. For no useful reason I used buffers to store the textures and unmaped those buffers in the cuda code. I am thinking of just using textures, and unmapping the textures in cuda. I am wondering if there would be any problems as the memory would be some kind of texture memory, for example, will it automatically interpolate my data?
I'm from Canada, I throw snowballs not nukes
20:39
DELIVERY ACHIEVED
@CatPlusPlus "grats!
This is my new "<project> <version> released".
Not that I ever release anything.
@ThePhD It's a reference to stuff above silly.
Oh.
Derpity derp derp.
I wanna play Dark Souls with @R.MartinhoFernandes, @Xeo and @EtiennedeMartel and @CatPlusPlus <3
One big JOLLY COOPERATION!
@LightnessRacesinOrbit why are some of your best questions answered minutes later by you?
do you ask knowing the answer beforehand?
@JustinMeiners because he's that good
20:45
@JustinMeiners you can answer your own questions
yes i am just wondering about the minutes after
@Mikhail lol
Apparently I should have saved this question for tomorrow. I already hit my rep cap.
it would make sense hours or days later
but literally less then 3 minutes on most
@chris delete it and post it tomorrow :P
20:46
@JustinMeiners When you ask a question there's an "answer your own question" checkbox
He's not asking questions, he's creating knowledge base entries.
So yes, you "ask a question" fully knowing the answer beforehand.
@KonradRudolph How much do they pay you?
Where's that meta post on it?
Formulating it as a question is just SO shtick.
@Rapptz yes I am quite aware
20:48
then why are you asking?
so self generating rep would not be a crazy accusation?
If it was bad people would downvote it.
137
Q: Can I answer my own questions, even if I knew the answer before asking?

Chris SmithI might want to answer my own question because: I arrived at a solution before there were any other correct answers or I like mine better, can I still answer my own question? I have a folder with lists of code snippets for things I always forget or get wrong, such as regular expressions for pro...

@Chris read his description for his situation
@JustinMeiners If the question (or the answer) is bad you'll lose more rep than you gain. Also I don't think you even gain rep for accepting your own answer
20:49
You don't, but you get rep from upvotes.
@Jeffrey No idea to be honest, but as I remember they orient themselves by some average for software developers.
@KonradRudolph What is the average?
@JustinMeiners The same applies for hitting the checkbox. If the Q&A is valuable to the community, go for it.
@Jeffrey No clue
@KonradRudolph "How much do they pay you" No idea xD You really don't care about money do you? :P
20:50
ugh ok I just feel like it slightly devalues the rep system
inb4 the rep system is broken
@JustinMeiners Maybe a little, depending on what it is, but those FAQ-like questions are a good thing to have on here. They're a good spot to point dupes.
@Borgleader I do, but I’m not currently looking for a job
SO's purpose is supposed to be a Q&A library. Not a game about rep.
@Rapptz TIL
20:52
Or if it's something genuinely interesting, it's always great to see them liven up the list.
@chris lok at lightness to orbit - all top questions and answers
Fuck me, its too hot
@JustinMeiners if you post a shitty q/self-answer expect a harsher lash back.
@KonradRudolph May I ask what is your current job?
@JustinMeiners Have you seen ?
20:53
@Rapptz but we are all here because we feel like it's a game. Let's admit it.
I'm only here because of chat.
@Borgleader I’m a PhD student. I don’t have a salary, I have a stipend
I answer questions every so often and to upvote stuff.
@KonradRudolph Oh cool, what branch does your PhD work/thesis/... fall into?
@Borgleader medical / life sciences – bioinformatics
20:55
@KonradRudolph Wait... I thought you finished your PhD
@TonyTheLion Uhm, I’m still in England, am I not? ;)
@KonradRudolph Oh that's neat! :)
@KonradRudolph Yea, but for some reason I thought that was because you had found a job here
@TonyTheLion Hehe. Ask again in ~ 2 years ;)
Would you want to live and work in this country?
@Rapptz I mostly just downvote stuff these days
20:57
@JustinMeiners It's not worth shit.
hahaha rep
@TonyTheLion Sure, it’s not so bad. I mean, the rain sucks a bit but otherwise it’s actually quite nice. And in addition I haven’t got too much choice since I want to find a common place with my girlfriend, and we’re both kind of picky
@TonyTheLion Don't you find no interest in programming anyway?
You need more than 5 downvotes for every upvote to not be on plus.
@CatPlusPlus ?
20:59
Rep is worthless and trivial to get, there's nothing to "devalue".
aka its stupid easy to get points.
@Rapptz I'm supposed to find it interesting, because its my career.
But you don't from what I've seen :<
I removed SO bookmark.

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