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16:00
@Tuntuni Well, BF3 has a remarkably poor single player campaign.
@Jeffrey :?
@EtiennedeMartel You're such a drunk :P
@EtiennedeMartel honestly i have no idea since i've never played it :P i never play anything in single player mode
just feels so weird and lonely
@Borgleader Well, by "full" I mean 6.
on the other hand, knifing those snipers on multi is much more satisfying
16:01
Then you have a really small d...esk :P
@Borgleader haha
@Tuntuni I don't know, I enjoy building shit by my own. Also when playing Hunger games on servers I always get really really pissed off by the lag.
@Tuntuni I see you're looking for a competitive experience when playing games.
no
i don't like competition
i just play it for fun
but i don't like playing by myself
I mostly play games for the immersion and storyline. And those are hard to experience when playing with others.
16:02
@Jeffrey speaking of that, horses might dissapoint you.
@Jeffrey I guess you could make MC an exception since it's a creative game, but still ..
Sort of weird to me.
Uh-oh... it's been very sunny all day, really hot. Now thick clouds are coming over. I wonder what is going to happen next... Getting ready to pull all plugs at the first rumble.
so, we're in 2013 and my pendrive has 7MB/s write speed
@Pawnguy7 Have you tried them?
@MartinJames no overvoltage protection installed?
16:04
@Jeffrey A bit. It is more of, um... educated guess though. They are controlled server side.
Like boats, basically.
@BartekBanachewicz That reminded me how optimistic "2001: A Space Odyssey" sounds as of today.
let's talk about Jesus while I watch the progress bar
@Jeffrey we're 6 to 8 weeks from colonizing other solar systems
You say you want to talk about PHP and jobs?
@BartekBanachewicz what are you talking about?
@Jeffrey "6 to 8 weeks" is a meme
@ArneMertz Against a close strike - not possible. We're a bit exposed here. I've had lightning damage before. Not so much surge/spike damage as boxes catching fire and exploding :((
16:06
@Jeffrey everything has been said on PHP terribleness already
@BartekBanachewicz Oh yeah, it's a SO meme, forgot that
@Jeffrey actually it's a TDWTF meme
@BartekBanachewicz Hmm
@Jeffrey hmm indeed
maybe I'm mistaken
too hot and I'm sleepy
Does anyone have a good seed to suggest me?
16:09
42 always
@Jeffrey Anything but dandelion.
@BartekBanachewicz Yeah, I was reading that too
"Slow"
@MartinJames lol, why?
16:13
public class FunctionLibrary {

    public static String replaceAll(String input, String toRepalce,
            String replacement) {
        return StringUtil.replaceAll(input, toRepalce, replacement);
    }
}
Damn, switched Alt and Ctrl keys feel weird
@Jeffrey Digging the bloody things out of my lawn, for one.
making a borderless window resizeable wasn't as bad as I thought it would've been
@melak47 u crzy.
i wonder why people keep reinventing window classes
WTF? At Daytime and just 1 minutes from start I have a baby zombie eating my butt...
16:16
@melak47 why are you reinventing window class? It's a honest question.
@ThePhD I figured I might have to do crazy shit like an invisible layered window behind my window that has a border...or tracking the mouse position and manually changing cursors...
And obviously not sword
@BartekBanachewicz I haven't seen a straight "This is a Windowing Library" kind of deal.
Pieces of other libraries do it (SFML, SDL, etc.)
@ThePhD what about SFML::Window and GLFW?
@ThePhD and what's the exact problem that these are pieces of other libraries?
SFML.Windowing isn't it's own library, IIRC.
16:17
it depends only on System, which is minimal
It also sets up your OpenGL Context for you, anda bunch of other stuff?
Also, sRGB. :3c
A trivial thing to add.
Ell
Ell
@ThePhD well, what do you want from a windowing library?
16:18
I mean, research about it takes like 20 minutes.
Ell
Ell
@BartekBanachewicz did you ask the guy to put that in?
@Ell An Hwnd.
Writing your own class can take weeks.
@Ell of course I did
REally, that's all I want.
@ThePhD what about linux?
16:18
"Here's my parameters: make me a window for these parameters."
@BartekBanachewicz X11 calls it HWND too, IIRC.
If they give me an HWND, I can interact with OpenGL and DirectX however I want.
Ell
Ell
@ThePhD X11 calls it "Window" I thought?
@BartekBanachewicz tell me then, how do I create a resizeable borderless window in SFML? oh wait, I can't
@ThePhD hm, interesting usecase
@melak47 set resizeable and borderless flags at the same time? Dunno. Usecase?
Ell
Ell
@melak47 how would you resize without borders to handle?
@BartekBanachewicz from the SFML docs: "Resize: Titlebar + resizable border + maximize button."
16:20
@Ell The cursor still goes in resize mode around the edges iirc, the borders just arent visible
@melak47 well that's what all OSes do, yeah. what @Ell said
@Ell just because there is no frame doesn't mean the window doesn't have a border :)
But really, windowing libraries usually go above and beyond the call of duty. They do lots of things that are not much in my interest, like setting up my OpenGL / DirectX context and other weird shirt, and getting pointers to the surface and trying to maintain (SDL, anyone?) or some other weird shit.
Ell
Ell
@melak47 yes it does? o.O
Then again, fork SFML and add that.
16:21
I just want my Hwnd.
@Ell the border is where the window ends. even without a frame, the window still ends somewhere
@ThePhD yeah, we all know you love leaky abstractions
Ell
Ell
@ThePhD then don't bother writing a library, just write a function
well, I mean, don't bother making it reusable
Still, forking an existing library and adding these features is simpler than writing from scratch
What's the point in writing it from scratch?
HWND is not a leaky abstraction: it's a part of the OS. If you don't like HWND, typedef OSWindowHandleType WindowHandle; <-- problem solved for compilation.
16:22
@ThePhD you have no idea what a leaky abstraction is, don't you?
HWND is cross-platform. I want a window handle -- every single OS gives you back a window handle when you're done with all your windowing stuff.
and that handle is dependent on OS
therefore you are not abstracting anything.
MacOS handle is different from Windows handle
It's not leaky when it's what I expect and am asking for.
1 min ago, by Bartek Banachewicz
@ThePhD you have no idea what a leaky abstraction is, don't you?
precisely my point.
OpenGL only plays with Window Handles. If I port my application to Mac or Linux, as long as I still get my HWND, OpenGL won't break, and neither will the rest of my application (as long as I'm not doing anything other than using the HWND for the specified purpose: making OpenGL run).
16:25
bullshit.
nothing in OpenGL spec says anything about Window Handle
but knowing that would require reading, I s'pose.
Shrug. I'm pretty sure wgl* is all stuff that's common across most platforms. But who knows; maybe those are windowing-system specific.
If you don't know, say "I don't know"
stop pulling things out of your ass.
Ell
Ell
@ThePhD they are - wlg is windows, glx is x11, something else is mac
Cocoa functions on Mac IIRC
and it's still not answering the question I asked a while ago.
@Ell Guess we wrap those functions up too. :D
Still, they should be optional calls or parameters, not auto-generated for you.
16:29
what.
Don't mind me, I have no idea what I'm doing~
no, sorry, I just can't discuss with him anymore.
I'd rather go and hit my head against the wall.
FFS
damn thing crashed again
fuck I think the whole VM got fucked up :/
16:55
13
A: "Hello World" in less than 20 bytes

rightfoldCreate a file called int main(){puts("Hello, World!");return 0;}, assuming your filesystem will allow it. Its contents should be: A Compile it with -istdio.h and -DA=__FILE__ If your filesystem supports newlines in giant filenames, you can write entire programs like this.

That works?
@Pawnguy7 why shouldn't it work?
what the hell does it mean if visual studio shows true(204) as a value for a bool?
No idea. Never though of such things.
@melak47 true has no defined value other than being nonzero
however, a value like that is often a sign of undefined memory
@melak47 Presumably, it's true because it's not false, (0).
17:05
those are 3 bools
@melak47 yes, 204 is 0xCC - it's unitialized memory
@BartekBanachewicz that's...odd
but okay
that means you're invoking UB (if you are reading this variable in code)
..or it's a valid result from some complex boolean expression.
very unlikely
Xeo
Xeo
17:07
So, I'm off the radar until Wednesday.
nope. just uninitialized. shouldn't member bools be zero initialized? :S
@BartekBanachewicz Given 0xCC, yes, it's prob. UB.
@melak47 no if you don't initialize them
Xeo
Xeo
@melak47 No
bools are POD, nothing happens for default-init
so you need value-init
17:10
..unless no init is required.
fuck it, init everything.
Xeo
Xeo
Just... wtf. /cc @DeadMG
@Xeo what a fucking retard.
I wonder if all those guys just use C for all their life
@Xeo lmao. "I can do without it, so we don't need it."
> What are those "pains" header files cause?
17:19
Thanks! I had no idea about all that and started to have bad sleep because of the base class visibility. +1 — Johannes Schaub - litb 6 hours ago
:D
Uhm... lots of different kinds of pain.
Kotor II is 3.40$ :3 (for those who don't have it)
Xeo
Xeo
Hmm, Terraria for 2.50€. Too bad I got it already - with ~120h playtime
120 hours!?!?
Xeo
Xeo
17:22
yes
I played the shit out of that game :D
And eagerly awaiting the 1.2 patch
i thought they stopped supporting pc
@EtiennedeMartel Got it, but didn't get a card :(
@Aboutblank o.O
fez did not win. damn
ffs
Why did I get spare money on the summer sale
fuck it I am not buying anything.
17:26
@Aboutblank lol i bought 3 copies of fez, one for me and two for my friends
Hello
was it on sale earlier this week? i must've missed it twice then
@Aboutblank It was yeah, like 2 days ago maybe?
Xeo
Xeo
@Aboutblank They suddenly announced a patch
@Borgleader bah
17:28
what's the difference between mathoverflow and mathematics?
MathOverflow wasn't part of Stack Exchange
Xeo
Xeo
It is.
wasn't?
Xeo
Xeo
Ya
It merged into SE
@bamboon Yeah it wasn't until a few weeks ago.
Xeo
Xeo
17:29
And is more aimed at professionals, PhD students etc
@Xeo oh wow. 1.2 looks cool.
Xeo
Xeo
Nah, it has already been a few months IIRC
If you look at the questions there is no difference between Mathematics and MathOverflow
Xeo
Xeo
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Q: How is this site different from Mathematics Stack Exchange?

PureferretI've just spotted this site on the blogs. At least that's where I think I saw it first. How is this site different from math.stackexchange.com?

Yeah in theory.
There is really no difference :|
damn still forgetting remapped Control :/
I just checked to see if that was the case still and it is.
I guess you could say that MathOverflow doesn't allow for basic homework questions.
I am wondering when we will get that separation on SO.
What separation?
17:34
noobs vs. pros
Xeo
Xeo
> never
Never.
The equivalent for SO in regards to MO would be PhD CS, etc.
performance.stackoverflow
^ that
facebook.stackoverflow was an epic failure
17:36
I guess I should work on that action mapping.
Your sample looks like antiquated c. In my answer I have, as a side-note, ironed out those spots. — sehe 7 secs ago
Xeo
Xeo
Not only C, but antiquated C?
Ell
Ell
Gah. It gets me down when I struggle with a simple problem :O
@BartekBanachewicz is that Source Code Pro?
@BartekBanachewicz what was it meant to be, exactly?
17:42
TIL reflexion is a word
Xeo
Xeo
Should be Instacode
@bamboon Define "noob" and "pro".
By my definition, I'm a professional, because I get paid for my programming work.
That is, programming is my main source of income.
@EtiennedeMartel beginners and more experienced programmers ^^
@bamboon Oh. So, you mean people with potential and smug elitists?
I'm pro in both meanings.
:smugdog:
17:45
lol Hi @CatPlusPlus
@Xeo Good. We won't send a search party
Xeo
Xeo
I have a feeling @bamboon wants to sort out those people who can't be arsed to think themselves, but those should be ignored in the first place.
I have no problem helping people who are willing to learn
Dishonored -66%
we already have systems in-place to give non-thinkers the boot.
I don't think those work.
17:47
@Rapptz Still working on it?
anyone played Reus?
Better question is, what should I eat?
what's the best typeface for C++?
Comic Sans
wingdings
17:49
just use MSVC
Consolas is too narrow
@ThePhD Yeah I got an idea.
Xeo
Xeo
@CatPlusPlus Yeah, listen to Cat, he's a pro with fonts.
Ell
Ell
Courier New
Could try Ubuntu Monospace
17:52
@willj courier? ubuntu mono is free also
@Xeo while I agree with you on that, I really was just wondering without thinking anything bad.
Ubuntu sans-serif looks nice too.
If you wouldn't mind a non-monospace font for coding.
i would go with courier by default.. but Source Code Pro is supposed to be good
will try ubunto mono
@EtiennedeMartel You'll never take my wallet alive!
@ThePhD And here I thought Bartek was the cheap one.
17:54
@EtiennedeMartel I already bought stuff. :c
Xeo
Xeo
@Rapptz Ew :/
@Xeo @Pawnguy7 uses Comic Sans to code.
I got Borderlands, Dark Souls (2x), and I even bought Civ 5.
Xeo
Xeo
Get Antichamber!
I'd do another purchase, but I've told myself I won't buy anything until Xeo becomes my friend. :c
17:55
@Xeo You are not here
Xeo
Xeo
> The Phantom Derpstorm has been added to your Friends list.
Go empty your wallet
sdnkjhsejkfe
Xeo
Xeo
@EtiennedeMartel I meant work-related
I have a cold.
@Rapptz Ugh
If anyone wants to trade cards, im in the steam chat thing
17:56
@Rapptz what?
@Xeo The whole POINT was that you were never EVER going to friend me so I wouldn't have to spend anything now I have to spend stuff why would you do this ;~;
@Pawnguy7 You do!
@Borgleader I can sell you some. :v:
Ell
Ell
ARMA II complete collection!
17:56
@Rapptz Yes, and I am PROUD. Just wondering what made it come up.
Is Antichamber still 66% or more off?
@Pawnguy7 We were discussing non-monospace fonts for coding.
I don't do it, but I know someone who does (you) :D
@ThePhD -50%
@Pawnguy7 you use comic sans for code font?
Yes. I know you think it sucks, I heard it before.
17:57
@CatPlusPlus Can't do it. Gonna wait for 66% again.
... It will go to 66% again, right?
I won't lose my ability for anything, will I?
maybe. it may go back on sale again on the last day/flash sale. there's no real reason to have to buy it now.
Tristrawberry?
@Xeo yumm!
18:15
not everyday you are as lucky to get to correct some mistakes in C++TPL!
0
A: Address Constant Expressions

Johannes Schaub - litbN3485 contains about "address constant expression" An address constant expression is a prvalue core constant expression (after conversions as required by the context) of ... pointer type that evaluates to the address of an object with static storage duration .... The third character object ...

xD
@ThePhD Maybe there'll be last day sale of everything or something.
But it's minuscule difference.
-66% would be about 2€ less than now.
Hello
World!
18:32
I have stacks of dirty plates in the kitchen.
Not like being alone makes me lazy or anything
No, being a cat makes you lazy.
I always postpone dishes.
Who doesn't :P
^ this
I'm too lazy to take out clean stuff out of the dishwasher and put the dirty stuff in.
18:34
:( dishes take less than 5 minutes if you do them every night
@CatPlusPlus yup. same here
Dishes always take an hour, because that's how long dishwasher program is.
review audits suck...
@Aboutblank I bet you failed one
18:39
I don't do dishes. I only have one plate, one fork and and one knife.
3
Q: Clicking "Add comment" fails review audit

AboutblankI just failed these review audits in First Post, I read the question and thought it seemed reasonable but the user was deleted so to be on the safe side I clicked add comment and I failed the audit. I'm not sure why adding a comment would be considered a negative action, is the correct option to...

Actually, I do dishes, but they are more like JIT dishes.
haha plastic ones?
No real ones.
Oh, I forgot to mention I also have one spoon.
how can I do a bitwise and in lua?
18:41
@Aboutblank Come on, you can't add a comment. That's cheating.
I don't see how that is cheating, most of the time, its painfully obvious that something is an audit. clicking add comment is just an easy way of getting through the audit
"The name of the game" by Abba is a really nice song.
But only when I'm drunk.
@StackedCrooked :(
Abba rocks
Abba was my first idol.
check out dancing queen too :)
18:45
Dancing queen? Never heard of that.
check it out then
:D
SOS by Abba is also good.
It's so tight. I mean, as in not stretched. The syllables are really short.
There was this teen group that made covers of Abba in the early 2000. Forgot their name. But they got it all wrong because they made it all stretchy.
@Aboutblank Why can't you flag it like everyone else?
18:47
Heard of Boney M?
@Aboutblank, Kidding aside: the review audits are really broken. Just do what you are supposed to do in those cases and you'll be fine.
@Tuntuni I know that song. I liked it when I was a teen.
@StackedCrooked You don't like it anymore? :(
I hope that doesn't happen to me :c
I don't dislike it. I just don't care so much anymore.
18:49
@Jeffrey prior to today, add comment was what your "supposed to do" :( why do they have to mess up my workflow?
I also liked Innuendo by Queen a lot when I was around 16-17 years old.
@Aboutblank not really. You are supposed to flag it. Comments are for other things.
Isn't this either of type T const * const or T * const? (depending on whatever it is called within a const method or not)
nope.
it's a prvalue of type T* or const T*
@Jeffrey meh, I like to comment in First posts unless is really bad. give the guy a chance.
@Tuntuni When I was 30 I started to appreciate music like this.
18:59
@StackedCrooked what genre is that?

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