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18:00
Wait. What are you guys talking about?
I'll be laughing at this for the rest of my life.
Equestria Girls on Blu-Ray on August 6. Incidentally, I'll probably be torrenting that day.
Some fanboy you are.
18:03
I'm not paying for that shit.
My love of cheese isn't high enough.
Real fanboys pay for shit
Hey, it's not My Little Pony. It's a spin-off with humans and high school drama.
ITT Etienne is faking it
I'm already paying for the comics anyway.
18:04
..... There are... comics?
I'm pretty sure they revoked your fan licence two sentences ago.
That they make you pay for?
ahahahahahahahah
o.0
Well then.
18:06
its spreading
I buy stuff when it's convenient to do so.
At first I wanted to download the shit out of those comics, but it was hard to find decent quality stuff, and then I found out I could just buy them on Comixology.
When buying is easier than illegaly downloading, I buy.
Hence why I buy games but not films.
I'm starting to think that the film and TV industries don't really want my money.
Isn't there Netflix in Canada?
The selection is shit probably half (or less) of what is available in the US
@CatPlusPlus With a paltry offering, sure.
I'm not sure why I never tried this before.
18:08
Why should I wrestle with a proxy?
I'll never understand why offering everything world-wide is such a great fucking problem.
@CatPlusPlus The system is rigged.
well, I'mma keep torrenting both films and TV until they unrig it
It has been designed to be inefficient in order to benefit to a small minority of people.
@DeadMG Exactly.
Really, they should see pirates as competitors, not criminals.
@EtiennedeMartel Are we talking about the music industry?
18:10
@Borgleader Most of the entertainment industry, actually.
film and TV are the worst offenders
books and music are waking up to it and games is mostly better
Indeed.
Nothing's perfect: some games are still more expensive in some regions just because they're more expensive.
Music industry is kinda ahead film/tv.
And there's still that bullshitty region locking.
But it's now kinda convenient to purchase music.
Region locking is slowly disappearing.
18:12
One day, they'll get their shit together.
Until then, I'll keep downloading.
@EtiennedeMartel ACK!
SYN
I don't actually remember the sequence.
I used to know it.
Not anymore.
I once had a networking course. The final exam was worth 50% of the grade. During that exam, half the points were given to a single question that was essentially "please give, in details, a solution to fix what is wrong with IP".
I got about 20% on that exam, but still managed to score a C- on the whole course because grades at Sherbrooke were based on the class' average and standard deviation.
And everyone fucked up at that exam.
What's wrong with Intellectual property or what's wrong with the IP scheme for networking?
@ThePhD Hint: it was a networking course.
18:21
Ah.
.... Guys, I don't know what to do.
I have to extend Unreal 4 to make a custom editor for this game,
but extending unreal 4 is proving to be extremely hard / impossible, and they don't document what the fuck I should be doing.
Why do Americans/people feel the need to reply "Your healthcare isn't really free" when someone says they have "free healthcare"? It's as if they are proud to have passed a basic economics course.
@Rapptz It's because they need to justify their own shoddy system. Can't let anyone else feel that they have a proven, working, better system, even if it's just in a conversation.
@Rapptz American exceptionalism.
Americans are brainwashed since birth to believe that they're the bestest at everything.
@ThePhD Custom editor?
@CatPlusPlus Yes. Custom editor.
18:23
Also since when do you use UE?
Is there anything wrong with IP that could have been foreseen at the time it was invented?
Since now. ._.
@ThePhD Define "custom editor".
@CatPlusPlus Doing thins the out-of-the-box one doesn't do?
I'm just trying to extend it. And it's proving painful, slow, and head-traumatizing.
in C#, 16 mins ago, by Kendall Frey
> The difference between an introvert and extrovert programmers is: An introvert programmer looks at his shoes while talking to you. An extrovert programmer looks at your shoes.
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18:29
Fammit Youtube, y u no have a strings ensemble version of Bad Apple :|
18:40
@Xeo Check ensembl.org maybe
does a std::unordered_map grow, like a vector?
@melak47 Yes, it grows to accommodate what you insert.
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@KonradRudolph :|
@JerryCoffin when does it? when the capacity is exceeded? or sooner?
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Whenever it feels there's not enough buckets
18:42
@melak47 Yes.
and when is that :S
@Xeo Well it’s your fault for confusing me! The website is about Ensembl and about strings!
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^ That Bad Apple
There's a Strings Ensemble version out there - but not on Youtube :/
@melak47 Why do you care?
@melak47 Normally sooner. There's a max_load_factor to control exactly when.
18:45
@CatPlusPlus why do you care why I care :3
Because you sound like you'd want a fixed-size hashmap which is ew.
@Xeo Okay, I cannot give you apple, but what about tomato?
(also, apples are always bad, they are called “malus” in Latin … which means “bad”)
so “malus malus” – bad apple
@EtiennedeMartel I find it a bit interesting how correcting a false statement can be seen as "American exceptionalism" or implying anything about brainwashing.
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18:47
@Rapptz Oh, that's also nice
user142019
Hello.
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Hi
@JerryCoffin I hope you did not think I was being serious.
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I'm wondering if I just sped up my code from 16 hours to 10 minutes, or I just broke something :L
@KonradRudolph "malus" means evil
18:48
close enough
and no, pretty sure it also means “bad”
user142019
I am thirsty.
@KonradRudolph If I'm not mistaken, that's the source of the assumption that the fruit Eve ate was an apple.
@JerryCoffin That’s one theory, yes
user142019
You're all malus.
18:49
@KonradRudolph Though I suppose it could also be the reverse -- the gave the apple that name because it was already assumed to be evil.
@rightfold I am malice. Or malicious, anyway.
user142019
I am horny.
@KonradRudolph It shows apple tree for malus :v
@rightfold You're a pegasus, not a unicorn.
user142019
I'm a horny pegasus.
but not apple. :(
user142019
18:51
> Maybe you'd like to cum inside?
Isn't apple tree usually malus domestica?
user142019
Apple tree is apple tree.
@Rapptz Not only: translate.google.com/?source=osdd#la/en/Malus – click on the translation to get a dropdown with alternatives
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@rightfold sucks to be you
18:54
@rightfold You mean an alicorn?
@ScottW So?
user142019
@EtiennedeMartel no.
Incidentally, what is the national animal of Scotland?
user142019
A pegasus that wants to have sex.
@ScottW Will you keep watching it?
user142019
My hands smell like burnt wood.
user142019
18:55
Because I touched a lot of burnt wood today.
@Rapptz I WANT IT! I WANT IT IWANTITIWANTIT
@ScottW Did you watch both part of the pilot? Or just part one?
user142019
@ScottW I can't.
user142019
They're not in your pants, so I can't take them out.
@ScottW Episodes 1 and 2 are two parts of the same thing.
user142019
18:57
Stupid sun emitting photons directly into my eyes.
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Ah feck :L
bukkit is under maintenence
user142019
bukkake
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ITT rightfold is actually horny
just lock him out for christ's sake
user142019
Let's get retarded in here.
user142019
19:02
user142019
Even I do not favorite my own tweets.
lol
@rightfold That was a misclick.
I thought I cancelled it.
Weird. I did cancel it.
Twitter never forgives.
Twitter never forgets.
automatic emails eh?
19:05
Looks like it.
They don't even wait for a period of time before sending it.
"If someone clicked it, he must have meant it".
@ScottW I would ask you to explain it to me, butt fuck it.
It's Old Joke Tuesday
user142019
Having sex is like putting butter onto bread. You can do it with a credit card, but it's so much easier with a knife.
user142019
inb4 rape jokes are not funny
why would you put butter on a sandwich?
user142019
19:09
> English
no, you butter bread, although why is beyond me
user142019
In Dutch we use "brood" for both.
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because butter is yummy
user142019
A broodje is a bun.
user142019
kklekker
19:09
@Ell Only if you have tasty French bread.
user142019
Bread without butter is dry as cork.
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On most kinds of bread
user142019
You don't eat such a thing.
user142019
It's like eating a dry potato.
add cheese, add heat
problem solved
19:10
@rightfold you're eating the wrong kind of bread
user142019
eww cheese.
user142019
Bread + butter + ham = jizz in mah pants.
@ScottW Poultry, eh?
@ScottW I only settle for the best kind -- King's Cock.
user142019
@ThePhD The Royal Cock
19:13
@ThePhD King Kong.
@Rapptz It looks like Hel.
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crimpity crimptiy fuck you
@Ell Lol I just heard Putin say that =)
Not in those exact words, the words was more like,
trying to cut Wool from pig is going to give you a lot of screams, and not a lot of Wool.
Hmm... what are the chances that this thing is gonna live?
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Q: C++ What optimizations do compilers still struggle with?

user997112Compilers are getting much better at optimizing code nowadays. However, are there certain areas where compilers currently, or always will struggle trying to optimize code? What examples of code can the programmer's skill provide faster code than the compiler? I am looking at areas where programm...

I'm debating whether or not I want to answer it.
19:28
@CaptainGiraffe I don't even know SQL enough to do optimizations.
Why does not the db suggest this / warn about it at "build" time?
@Mysticial It's not to know SQL. More to figure out how keys and comparisons relate. map vs vector kinda thing.
all the digital information that is stored in all centres in the whole world = one car full of DNA
think about it
@KonradRudolph It tells me we are approaching real physical limits for data storage. A car is big.
@CaptainGiraffe A car isn’t that big. All the information in the world!
@Mysticial I'm about to cast the final close vote (if it hasn't already been closed).
19:37
And yes, that’s actually very close to the physical limit
I can wait if you want, but I cannot control others. :)
and what would happen when we reach the limit
@GManNickG I'm not gonna be able to finish anything complete enough to post an answer in time.
@KonradRudolph A car is 2 magnitudes bigger than me. (checks scale, well one)
But it is a type of question that I can probably answer fairly well. But, only if the question lives.
19:39
@CaptainGiraffe But only half as big as yo mamma!
@Mysticial Okay, closing then. :) You should start a blog and post it there, though, because the question is interesting.
@Aboutblank Buy an SUV.
@GManNickG Agreed.
Oh lucky me, I got to disambiguate the close reason.
I don't think I'll be able to answer it without it devolving into pages and pages of stuff.
19:41
@KonradRudolph Oh my mamma, diabetes and all is getting bigger. She does contain an awful lot of information.
Since I'd need examples to make any sort of strong argument.
@Mysticial What would your first point be?
@CaptainGiraffe To change the question.
@Mysticial As "What are the best improvements in compiler optimizations we can expect to see soon?"
No. Change:
"What optimizations do compilers still struggle with?"
to
"What optimizations fundamentally cannot be done by the compiler?"
Since all the basic optimizations are already implemented.
19:44
@Mysticial Ah, different question though.
The only thing preventing the harder ones from being done are fundamental.
So I'd explain that in the answer.
@Mysticial Is that "What optimizations fundamentally cannot be done by the compiler [but can be done by humans]?"
Mind if I ask it?
@GManNickG Correct
@CaptainGiraffe Not right now.
@Mysticial I propose anything a human can do a computer could do. :)
19:45
I'd like to flesh out an answer for it. But I'm at work right now. So I don't have my full attention.
@Mysticial I'll flesh out a Q.
@CaptainGiraffe Will it be a good fit for SO?
@GManNickG I'll try my best.
The question seems open-ended/not a "real" problem/not a programming question.
I'm aware
I'm thinking of delivering it as a byline; not the best of ideas
19:50
man
I feel so flump
One of the reasons why I didn't jump on the cache question is because there are many people who can answer it. But for some reason, I get the strange feeling that I'm one of only a handful of people who know compilers at this level.
Anybody know of a good visual studios static code analysis tool. I need to kill duplicate code and remove unused variables, things
@Mysticial which question is that?
@Mysticial I still want to know what optimization task fundamentally requires a human. :)
@Mysticial I get that feeling too.
19:51
177
Q: What is "cache-friendly" code?

AlexCould someone possibly give an example of "cache unfriendly code" and the "cache friendly" version of that code? How can I make sure I write cache-efficient code?

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Me too
@GManNickG Defining languages more amenable to optimization.
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I feel like I've met a celebrity talking to you now
@GManNickG In one sentence, the types of optimizations that change the behavior of the program, but in a way that it doesn't matter to a human. :)
@Mysticial Don't forget about cache ping-pong
19:52
@Mysticial ah that one
@Mysticial That's just a matter of expressing requirements formally. :) Do that, and a compiler could make such optimizations.
@GManNickG The problem is that most languages (including C and C++) don't have the ability to let you do that.
@Mysticial Ah yes, maybe predicate the question on C or C++, Captain Giraffe. I read "fundamentally" as "independent of language"
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@Mysticial One thing I read about GHC is that you can tall it what operations are effectively identity operations for example. unwrap . wrap = id
That way, it can optimize things like that.
It's actually not that simple. You get to cases, where an optimization requires that you completely change the memory layout of something.
19:57
Now I'm thinking of a question about c++ moving away from C and hardware to optimizing territory with ::launch::asych and ::thread ? -deleted-
Such as array-of-structs to struct-of-arrays.
@Mysticial But if your programming language allows you to only dictate what members must exist (not how they're stored), the compiler is free to do such a transformation.
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@Mysticial That's an interesting optimization, since it depends on how you ultimately access the data structure.
@GManNickG So it's not really an issue of compiler anymore, but rather language design.
@Xeo Exactly.
@Mysticial They go hand-in-hand, though. A compiler without language design as mush, and a language without a compiler is useless*.
*Except for research purposes, which may be applied in the future.
19:59
@Mysticial This is the common argument for functional languages?
@CaptainGiraffe I'm not too familiar with that.
@Xeo I'll also note that that's an optimization that I use heavily to enable vectorization. Without it, vectorization is quite impossible in most places. (as in, the overhead it would add would offset the benefits.)
I'm sorry I dropped the ball on this question. I have ran out of ideas.
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@Mysticial I see
@Mysticial any noticeable differences on the new Haswells?
@Mikhail I don't have one yet. Nor have I seen any benchmarks yet.
20:02
@Mysticial I got one...
I'll need to read up on the arch a bit to see the exact new details on the new FPU.
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@Mikhail Everytime I see your nick, I have to think of that Asylum-Mikhail guy :(
Anyways, back to Fate/Extra (yay emulators)
@Xeo I see gorskji park from Michail Bulgakow =)
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Obtw, @Mysticial, up-to-date on Henneko and Gargantia?
@Xeo I'm 1 ep behind on both.
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20:04
ooh, watch it watch it
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@CaptainGiraffe thats the vibe I get too
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Especially Henneko this week is a sugarbomb. Don't go without your insulin injections.
Tsukiko is just too cute.
is that a common japanese name
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no clue
But her family has a thing with "tsu" - her full name is "Tsutsukakushi Tsukiko", her sister's name is "Tsukushi" and her mother's name is "Tsukasa"
@DeadMG No.
20:08
I lost rep due to repcap :(
@BartekBanachewicz First world problems.
@BartekBanachewicz I probably get less rep than the amount you lose to rep cap :P
@Borgleader meh, it was the first time
@Griwes :)
20:13
donate your rep to 3rd world SO users. they're too poor to afford rep
@BartekBanachewicz I got about 25 rep in 3 months
@Borgleader I didn't get much more tbh
I simply didn't have time to answer
I get bored looking for questions I can answer
@CaptainGiraffe No -- the most common argument for functional languages is that the lack of modifications makes it fairly easy to replicate data across nodes so code that uses that data can run in parallel.
sometimes, people write typename std::enable_if<..., int>::type = 0 instead of typename = std::enable_if<...>::type because the former allows overloading by SFINAE. however, the latter also has an advantage over the former
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20:26
@JohannesSchaub-litb Oh?
@Xeo it's got one remarkable advantage
bin
exciting
@JohannesSchaub-litb care to elaborate that?
@EiyrioüvonKauyf Can you post in Lounge and hide ?
20:26
bin
a message saying only "bin" looks less helpful than a message saying "... moved to bin". i recommend deleting the message instead. ppl might otherwise flag it as spam if they don't know the history
you can't delete them anymore
you don't, not here
@JohannesSchaub-litb ah nevermind, I get what you were saying now.. didn't think of it as a function argument..
20:28
@Xeo the advantage is that the latter has a remarkable shorter mangled name
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@JohannesSchaub-litb lol
And, FFS, why come here?
because the whole SFINAE expression needs to be mangled for the former
@JohannesSchaub-litb why does that matter?
It's even less appropriate here. Seriously, get the hint.
20:29
@JohannesSchaub-litb lol
@StackedCrooked because it slows down the linker and increases executables
@EiyrioüvonKauyf start on that nice page I've heard about once, it's called Google
@DeadMG It's like you got the flu but instead of sneezing your are binning.
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I always thought DeadMG's DNA contained a mutation compelling him to bin instead of barking
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20:30
@Borgleader I wonder what would happen if he couldn't bin?
@JohannesSchaub-litb nice and relevant :)
bad question? Catch it, bin it, kill it.
@R.MartinhoFernandes lol
20:48
@Xeo Mental breakdown.
> I say this as someone who eats templates and drinks compiler errors for a living ...
I love STL. <3

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