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@Mgetz I am not unhappy with app store review process. In fact I never had much problem with Apple app store, Google app store or even windows phone app review processes.
Vast majority of my apps are able to pass review process without much trouble. But I don't tend to maintain my apps. So I had apps removed from all three stores after a few years.
Without 'incentives', most apps get more downloads and installs when first released. As time progress, there are usually less and less downloads and installs.
App stores are less concerned with copy rights violations, they just don't want spend money maintaining all those less used apps.
They probably also want developers to maintain those apps on regular bases. The more regular updates an app gets, the more installs.
Unfortunate for me, there are more interesting things, and there are more profitable undertakings. So although I still care about about apps (and A.I. in robotic group), they are not very high on my priority list.
 
 
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9:46 AM
I hate QML so much. I spent hours debugging why I can't make a link in text like these people and it turns out that's because the link click area is left-aligned while the text can be centered or right aligned, so you have to click the empty space left of the link. Such garbage, never ever use QML.
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4:10 PM
@nwp Yeah I also had these problems but I was fortunate I didn't need a "good looking" program because it was meant for industrial automation...
@nwp Why did you decide to use QML? Did some "designer" give you the layout in QML?
 
4:21 PM
@Mikhail I find it hilarious that NeXTstep pretty much got the WYSWYG UI designer right waaay back when. Maybe not perfect but it was decent. Apple IMO has the best for that. Why people can't copy or license it is beyond me.
 
Those tools don't match the "modern" workflow where you have some "designer" smoke a bunch of weed and produce some kind of art in Figma
anything that doesn't decouple design and code represents a more archaic workflow
 
nwp
@Mikhail "The team" decided to use QML because it was thought it would be easier to make a GUI that works well with a touchscreen. QML has for example that tumbler control people are used to from smartphones which Qt doesn't have.
At the time I had no experience with it and expected it to work more or less like regular Qt.
 
Should have followed mgetz' suggestion and used Apple YellowBox!
BTW that sounds like a really good reason to use QML?
 
nwp
It does sound like it and it's probably still the right call. I just need to adjust my mindset.
I have to get away from thinking I can just use Button and it just works as I'm used to from Qt.
You must reimplement all controls or get them from github.
 
@Mikhail The few times I've seen people use Qt on mobile they use it for library support and then have a separate UI layer that's native.
they never use Qt for UI
 
4:36 PM
Yeah I mean I've also never used Qt on mobile :-)
 
But with a few exception people seem to do small kernels of shared code and then just separate code bases for everything else
 
Yeah although I feel we lost a lot by going this strategy, mostly inefficient message passing between application and display logic
the only real solution is to make the display logic tools for native languages suck less ?
 
nwp
Actually the thing that bothers me is that I have to translate figma drawings into QML.
And then it turns out figma uses CSS font boldness going from 100 to 900 whereas QML uses some enums and no matter what you do you cannot replicate it.
 
and people wonder why electron is winning out
 
nwp
I'm trying to get the designer to design in QML directly, arguing that QML is not that much more difficult than figma (which is probably a lie). Mostly I just want to offload the bad labor.
What I should actually do is refuse to work on anything that only exists in Balsamiq and not Figma, but that isn't practical.
 
4:57 PM
indeed Figma->QML is a pretty serious flaw in your process, really your manager should address this
my experience with designers was pretty bad for many reasons, ended up better for me to do the design
 
5:21 PM
@JerryCoffin Thanks! Will check it out
 
5:35 PM
hey folks, i just started learning dsa. anyone with me?
 
nwp
Deep Space Astronomy
 
If the oxygen in the air increases does that cause us to breathe more slowly (unconsciously)?
Hm, maybe this is not the best place to ask lol.
 
6:02 PM
@StackedCrooked I doubt it has much effect (if any). Your breathing is regulated primarily by how much CO2 you need to get rid of.
 
Didn't know that.
I was just wondering that if the oxygen increases and we keep breathing at the same rate that this would cause the oxygen level in the blood to keep increasing.
But probably there's some other mechanism that regulates that (aside from breath rate).
 
A while back I read about some people who died (and more who were injured) working for NASA. They accidentally walked into a room that had been filled with nitrogen to prevent any possibility of a fire. Passed out without ever realizing there was a problem at all--they were getting no oxygen, but were still able expel CO2, so they never sensed any problem at all.
 
Wow.
So the feeling of needing oxygen doesn't exist.
You know these weight-loss devices that they try to sell on daytime TV that generate an electrical current in your muscles. One indication that they don't actually increase energy burning is that your breathing rate doesn't increase when using them.
 
@StackedCrooked Right--it's all about CO2 levels.
@StackedCrooked Yeah, TEMS devices.
 
@StackedCrooked your body is only sensitive to CO2 not other gasses. So if there aren't elevated CO2 levels you won't feel it. I will just feel like altitude
 
6:15 PM
@Mgetz That probably explains why I feel suffocated when sleeping under a blanket. The CO2 increases locally, even though there's probably plenty of O2.
 
@StackedCrooked Actually, I think that's separate. If (for example) you hold your arm in front of your face so it holds the blanket a few inches away, the suffocating sensation goes away (at least it does for me).
 
I suppose I'll do the experiment tonight :)
 
@StackedCrooked This was something I figured out when I had to work night shift in the Air Force, and had to figure out some way to sleep when the room was brightly lit.
Switched to sleeping on my back, with my arm right in front of my eyes, and the blanket over the top of my elbow, so it was held a couple inches away from my mouth.
 
 
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@JerryCoffin I think it does actually. Ever noticed that when you are at eg a peak of a mountain you are breathing more heavily?
 
9:02 PM
@LandonZeKepitelOfGreytBritn Right when I get to the peak I am, but that's mostly because I've just finished a long hike, and the last part of the trail is often particularly steep. Gets even uglier when you get above about 12,000 feet, so there's almost no vegetation, so there's almost always a stiff breeze to contend with. But no, other than that I rarely noticed much (though in fairness: when I was in Colorado, my house was at almost 7000 feet elevation, so I was acclimated to fairly high altitude in any case).
 

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