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2:21 AM
Australia is like the opposite of Canada
 
I got a speeding ticket from Canada 3 months ago, car rental company deducted the amount without consulting me. I thought my credit card information was compromised so I cancelled that card.
Citibank credit card team was not prudent.
 
2:36 AM
Unless you were in Canada three months ago how can this be happening?
Well even if you were, it's usually not possible to deduct money without consent
 
I was in Canada 3 months ago but left after 2 weeks. It is possible to deduct money without consent even though you have left the country for more than a month. The location where money deducted was not where I had hired the car, so it's confusing. Citibank should have picked up on this, it didn't.
And also it's not sure whether the car rental company has paid the penalty. I checked with police (before rental company sent me info on why the amount was deducted), they didn't receive the payment.
Although I was informed that the rental company could have elect the court.
 
3:13 AM
It's really weird thought.
 
 
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7:34 AM
@Mgetz What Linux distros do you use at work? I've got 7 gentoo servers of various kinds, with 2 PB of stroage but am unlikely to pass on the knowledge to maintain them to the children we hire. Got a distro recommendation?
 
 
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10:34 AM
The Tasmanian opium poppy farming industry was established in Tasmania in 1966.Farms in Tasmania produce about 50% of the world's licit poppy straw that is later refined into opiates such as morphine and codeine.Tasmanian Alkaloids is Tasmania's largest corporate grower of opium poppies.A downy mildew outbreak in the 2014 poppy-growing season led to one Tasmanian company to look into growing poppies in the Northern Territory and Victoria of Australia. == References... ==
Today's useless fact: Australia produces 50+% of world's licit poppy straw that is later refined into opiates.
 
11:27 AM
@Mikhail pretty sure we're trending towards 100% red hat at the moment for politcal reasons. But my division doesn't give a crap since we work on cloud garbage. There is definitely some ubuntu running around on the on prem travis install.
@Borgleader since samsung made ships?
 
Didn't Mitsubishi make some spinning drives, not sure if they're still in the storage buisiness but I think I saw some drives by them years ago
 
@PeterT IIRC yes, I believe they made a super computer too
 
huh wiki tells me they left the hdd buisiness, although apparently Verbatim is a Mitsubishi brand, so they're still making optical media
apparently Verbatim is about to be bought by Taiwanese CMC Magnetic though. Which despite having "Magnetic" in the name only manufatures optical media, ironic
 
11:45 AM
people forget that japan and korea are pretty much just corporations at this point
 
12:22 PM
Aye, still angry that tensorflow croaks on gcc version 7.3 and above. Had to build gcc 7.3, which didn't work the first time with gcc 8.3. Ended up they released a fix, in 7.3 r6, which I unmasked, and now everything is building.
 
12:38 PM
@Mikhail using GCC extensions?
 
 
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2:01 PM
 
2:45 PM
I like the hover text
 
 
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4:39 PM
@Mikhail depending on the requirement, running gentoo might be a better fit in some cases. For example, being able to run a custom kernel on a macbook 2012 makes it possible to boot without grub and anything without issues. On a server that can boot linux out of the box, or that doesn't require exotic softwares. Not sure if that makes sense thought
 
@Morwenn It is pretty cute.
 
 
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6:13 PM
@LoïcFaure-Lacroix gentoo is great, but I'm the only person that knows how to deal with it. I've been walking through a guy on how to setup everything, and after five machines, he's still not independent. He can just install uhuntu and return to his normie existence.
This is one of those moments that you realize you should have spent your time hanging out with family or friends instead of gaining completley useless expertise
 
@Mikhail generally I never recommend gentoo for production, messing around as a sandbox... yes. If you need something super custom it's usually worth doing an internal distro at that point.
 
@Mgetz what you mean is using a distro with a custom source for some package like having ubuntu with an internal ppa?
not that forking completely a distro
 
@LoïcFaure-Lacroix pretty much, set up your own packaging infrastructure for the bits you need
 
I started doing that at work but never had time to fully utilise it. I made a debian package manager for some of our work
by package manager I mean, hosting packages
 
@LoïcFaure-Lacroix Honestly unless you're doing something that really requires it, I'd avoid it. By really requires it I mean saves the company millions
 
6:23 PM
It's only for hosting private packages
so we can do apt-get install our software
The piece of software we use at work is internally a piece of garbage but it's so flexible that I can turn our "corporate" website in a debian package host, CI that build/deploy/update docker instances of the same service
the package hosting has gpg signatures and is technically compliant with debian packaging (as the protocol is quite easy to implement)
 
Is your package manager a wrapper for bash :-)
 
I meant manager in the sense that it's a web ui that you can use to upload your deb then use apt to install them
rewriting apt clone is pointless
it's just I couldn't find a proper way to host our debian files
especially if you want people to be able to add deb by themselves instead of giving some access rights to the server directly. I can create ACL that restric access to some platform/deb packages etc
Sometimes I feel like I'm abusing the ERP
 
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^^ /cc @Borgleader
 
6:43 PM
seem familiar?
 
In short you aren't trash, you're the person that is littering. — Mikhail 1 min ago
@Mikhail That's a really poetic way to put it.
 
burn
Before it gets nuked:
 
@Mgetz At least mistakes were made. Typically the way to falsify data is to remove stuff you don't like, and keep running until you get what you want (sometimes by technical mistake). The real thing that caused her situation to go critical, was that the person seems to have been doing PhD work in their 30s, an age when most people "can't deal with bullshit anymore". This is really what caused routine bullshit to go critical.
 
100% can confirm, being past 30 makes one less BS tolerant
 
7:50 PM
Life would be much easier if we didn't invent the float type
 
user8104581
8:05 PM
float types would give no difficulty at all if we didn't invent life
 
8:30 PM
@andreyrk What's this "we" stuff? Are you claiming to be one of the inventors of life?
 
user8104581
@JerryCoffin not yet
 
8:55 PM
has anyone got any experience going from python to c++ (professionally)? what would you need to do to make the switch?
 
9:28 PM
@Permian switch, as in server-side programming?
 
Python is for data analysis, C++ is for software engineers. You may need to change workplaces.
 
CPython is written in C
 
I mean you can also use C++ for data analysis, you will just need to know C++ inside and out. But using C++ for data analysis makes for better analysis, the caveat being you will understand the data itself better. Bt this is an unreasonable amount of effort for someone who has to ask the question to begin with.
 
But in reality anything that can create a turing complete machine is good enough for software engineer
 
In short, I agree with @Mikhail
 
9:39 PM
I kind of disagree, A programming language is nothing more than an abstraction. It just happen that some languages are more abstract than other and reduce the cost of implementation of things with a cost in performance. So by all mean, if you wanted 100% performance we'd be all writing directly in assembly
 
less is more
 
So a C++ developer would be reimplementhing for the nth time what's standard in python for 20 years. While the python developer can make inneficient things C++ developer still dream doing
 
If all languages were equal, they'd be the same and we'd write operating systems in php.
 
user8104581
just use what's appropriate for the task...
 
I think python developers live in a buffered world, where their arrays are cushioned and performance it's really a concern. it's like riding a bike with safety wheels. As some point you need to grow up, you can't be a toys-rUS kid for forever.
maybe a better analogy is diapers. It might be make life easy to take a dump in a diaper. But at some point, you realize you are just walking around with garbage in your pants. You need to grow up and learn to use the toilet.
 
9:47 PM
To answer the question, I'd agree on only one thing Mikhail said, if you want to move from python to c++ you may need to change workplace or at least work position in the same organization. You just can't switch the programming language on a project
@Rick A software engineer would tell you you can use something else than CPython if you really like python, Pypy isn't so bad and can come close to native code
 
@LoïcFaure-Lacroix That's not why I object. I think software engineers need to be engineers. You can't be an engineer unless you know what's going on. You can't know what's going on if you use a language that abstracts away how the hardware works. Maybe you can be a programmer but not an engineer (personal opinion)
Or I might be holding myself to a higher standard, which might not be fair to others.
These are just my personal opinions
which will probably change with my next big obsession.
@Puppy have you ever been to Greggs before, is it a popular sandwich shop, is it like our version of McDonalds?
 
user8104581
10:12 PM
Both are important, anyway. Much of the performance gain of a C++ program won't be noticed by the end user depending on the kind of program, so yeah, use what's the most beneficial in terms of time, money and end-result.
 
10:35 PM
@LoïcFaure-Lacroix But there are also a fair number of projects (e.g., using things like TensorFlow) that use both Python and C++. In such a case you might (pretty easily) be able to move from doing one to (at least primarily) the other without any official change in position, title, etc.
 
Yes of course there are cases like that, even I once had to do some C/C++ when I was working on a project with NodeJS, and some of the library had a native library that was buggy
 
@Rick I'm going to posit that the vast majority of software engineers have only the faintest clue of what's going on, and most only have a reason to care in places that the abstractions get particularly leaky. E.g., most have no idea how many execution units a core has. A few who care a lot about performance know how many ports there are to the execution units, and have some idea about which units share the same ports. The same people often know a bit about cache organization, but not much.
But most have no reason to care about even that much. Even when programming in assembly language, you're basically using a virtual machine that's defined for your convenience--there's still a layer of "how things work" that you don't touch even at that level.
 
At some point it's moving toward the electrical engineering if you want to know how X works more than software engineering.
but in reality if we go further it can be simply engineering if your computer works with something else than electrons
 
@JerryCoffin That's true, a lot of people don't know what's going on, but I am a strong believer in knowing the details and the big picture. People waste enough of their lives knowing which celebrity did what, with who. If this knowledge is lost because it is in so few hands it will be lost forever.
industries are lost this way.
 
@Rick Fair enough--but at the same time, some people (myself included, I'll openly admit) spend inordinate amounts of time trying to learn every detail of how things work from the ground up, and that often prevents them from accomplishing as much as they could if they focused more on what they really need to deal with.
 
10:52 PM
@JerryCoffin I can relate to this. The sad part is that there are so many things to learn and so little time in one life.
For example one method to plate metal on almost any surface is to heat some metal in a vaccum chamber in order to make the metal vaporize then it will condensate on the surface you want to plate.
 
@LoïcFaure-Lacroix Not only too little time, but information is now being generated at a rate where no matter how hard you try or how much you study, that we each constantly know a diminishing percentage of what's known.
 
@JerryCoffin I have been debating that. Where it is best to focus on one's effort. And my own conclusion is, you should not be reacting to everything. Just the act of worrying is detrimental. There are some things you can control and other things you can't. So the most you can do is cast your fishing pool and enjoy the silence. The silence, in this case, is knowledge.
 
Fortunately (as you pointed out earlier) a lot of what's generated doesn't matter much. I certainly don't feel any regrets over ignoring reality TV, for example. But there's still too little time to keep up on just physics, math, and computer science.
 
user8104581
11:19 PM
@Rick I share this mindset as well... Worrying about what you have no control over can't be good.
 

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