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12:00 AM
Hmm...a quick look indicates that my memory was actually fairly accurate for once. The actual text was: "almost all programming can be viewed as an exercise in caching".
 
That's probably true, I just found it strange that I was able to come up with that haveing never thought about elevators in my life, and they probably devoted considerable thought to it .
 
@Rick Decades ago, one of the standard exercises for beginning programmers was to write an elevator simulation. Pretty trivial for a single elevator; trying to optimize usage of several elevators can become rather involved.
 
12:21 AM
Damn if you ever see some piece of javascript written in Backbone.js
run
you're almost 90% certain to end up in a JS/Event/Async spaghetti code monster
 
1:02 AM
Inside every hideous spaghetti code monster, there are few lines of innocuous, simple lines of code wanting to get out. -Telkitty
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Spending an afternoon doing work on a farm you own is so awesome, especially when the weather is fine, and your living does not depend on the farm.
There are kangaroos, the large, muscular ones, not tidy round wallabies.
 
That's pretty cool, do you farm anything?
 
Speaking of which, I have not tested my raspberry pi 4 or the toy lidar that I have bought. They were sitting around in the room for more than 2 weeks now ~_~
@LoïcFaure-Lacroix Solar energy. Plan to put solar panels there and sell electricity back on to the grid.
 
You could turn your autonomous RC car in an autonomous landmower or collect crops
 
Have not thought about that, but was considering some autonomous solar panel cleaning mechanism or autonomous mini-excavator.
 
I'd have farm land, I'd be making small vehicle to collect/plan etc but many of them
I guess the only reason to have a big one is because you don't want to drive yourself 100 times
 
1:16 AM
I did get the robot arm for the purpose for making autonomous mini-excavator, but have not gotten very far because limitation of time and the limitation of cheap robot claw.
 
learn how to weld?
or metal cast
If you can produce around 50-200 A with solar panels you'll be able to weld without a welder
the only thing that is difficult to have is enough time
 
Welding is one thing I would like to learn. There are also whole series of things I need to solve before I can create an usable 'autonomous' machine.
Flimsy prototype for display is one thing, having a stable working version is another.
 
1:37 AM
welding is kinda cool but make sure your skin is well covered
it's not that molten metal is very dangerous, more that UV light will burn your skin
 
Have you ever used a grinder? I consider it literally one of the most dangerous tools, especially when the surface of the item you want to cut/trim is slippery.
 
Yeah it's dangerous
Slippery is non issue. What's really dangerous is if you try to cut something that has some compression. The piece of metal will start to bend on the disk as you cut deeper and could jam the disk. At this point the likely outcome is that the disk will blow and shrapnels may fly in random directions including your head legs etc
Other thing that is dangerous is deep cut if you hold the disk not straight enough.
As a safety rule, make sure any part of your body never cross the disk plane
if it blows up, it's shouldn't touch you.
Also I heard there are disk that won't blow up and are really sturdy, they're more expensive but I personally never seen those. So I'd spend more money for those if possible
 
1:55 AM
@StackedCrooked have you seen hyouka ?
 
 
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6:07 AM
@Rick yes
 
 
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1:10 PM
@StackedCrooked why does he spend his valuable talents solving the stupidest mysteries, like fake missing earrings, which turn out to be ice cream stains.
 
Bobcats look cool
 
Also he bets his life on his friend being able to identify some abstract movie trivia instead of just yelling for help.
I feel like there's some sort of overarching message that I'm not getting
 
1:26 PM
I haven't finished watching Hyouka
I liked it so far because it's pretty well-made, but it probably isn't a series I would rewatch
 
I like the problem solving reasoning, how he breaks down a problem. I feel like I do that all the time.
 
Same
It often doesn't feel real, but it's still nice
The one about the unfinished movie had nice twists
 
Yeah, how she used his ego to fool him into solving her problem
 
 
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@Mikhail Does it have the "hella" prefix?
 
No but, I suspect you get a modicum of compile time
 
6:30 PM
@Morwenn "Bobcat" is obviously sexist. Please be so kind as to use use "Bob-or-Roberta-cat" (or, preferably, something even less gendered).
 
Cats are mostly cool, play jazz, and are male
 
6:48 PM
@Mikhail Your stereotyping is very triggering. You are literally a bump stock.
 
7:21 PM
@JerryCoffin Gun cocked, bump stock, double-aught, buckshot.
 
@JerryCoffin Wow, implying that girls can't be named Bob, you're the sexist one
Now give me thyme please
 
8:16 PM
@Morwenn Probably. I just went through annual sexual harassment training, which taught me a great deal about how to be sexist much more effectively...
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Try to be sexist with me, I dare you :')
 
@Morwenn That reminds me: I ran out of Thyme, and need to buy some soon. But I think the kids are expecting Pizza tonight.
 
Buy herbes de Provence instead :p
 
@Morwenn It would be unusually challenging in your case...
 
Hehe
 
8:18 PM
@Morwenn I would never be so careless as to run out of that!
 
It's actually not all that difficult because I'm still sensitive to a bunch of random stereotypes
 
@Morwenn I s'pose we all are, one way or another. You're just unusual enough that I suppose a lot of narrow-minded people (including some who'd normally think of themselves as fairly broad-minded) feel entitled, or even downright obliged, to express their narrow-mindedness about you.
 
That's almost cute :)
 
@Morwenn It may be cute to observe the possibility. I suspect it's a lot less cute when it actually happens.
 
For some reason it didn't actually happen all that much to me.
People have mostly been nice & cool so far, which I do appreciate a lot.
 
8:28 PM
@Morwenn It's no longer socially acceptable to be a dick.
 
@Rick I'm not sure being a dick in general has become all that unacceptable yet--but at least some forms of being a dick are more frowned upon than they used to be.
 
I feel these swings about what's acceptable or not just get shoved one place and end up manifesting in another place.
 
The golden is generally to not be a dick to people
Why being a dick to specific minorities is/used to be socially acceptable is the question we should ask ourselves x)
 
I think the golden rule is "Do unto others as you would have them do unto you".
 
More like don't do to others what you wouldn't want done to you :p
 
8:42 PM
@Morwenn Identity, the self, and the body politic is definitely deep topic.
 
Because may people want to label and categorize everything instead of letting people live their lives x)
Now labels can be useful, but they can also be harmful.
 
did you know in Japan, on tv shows, they often show a person's face reacting to whatever they are presenting? It's because people need to be told how to react, otherwise, people don't know how to react.
We use to have a form of this called canned laughter on comedy shows
 
how should I feel about this information
 
@Morwenn Because despite the veneer of civilization, we're still basically tribal in nature, so it's nearly instinctive for us to separate people into two groups: members of our tribe, and enemies of our tribe. Some people manage to resist that, but most don't--and many don't even try.
 
I think we live in a society that has a very large vocabulary, with respect to ways of being. I think it's a good thing.
 
8:54 PM
Also gender is a lie
 
I definitely think gender is something people made up.
 
It's a useful framework
But gender basically describes the expectations you have about yourself regarding how you want to look, act and be perceived by yourself and the rest of the society.
It's of course intrically linked to gender roles, gender expression and how they weave the tissue of our society.
But it isn't any less serious for people who suffer from dysphoria.
 
@Morwenn maybe, but frameworks get old and limit innovation and problem-solving. you preferably want a larger vocabulary and more granular control.
 
The vocabulary linked to gender is already plenty rich and constantly evolving x)
At some point I decided that I didn't care much about the labels and tried to figured out how to feel better with myself.
 
I think the analogy follows through to coding too. Of course, people love frameworks. Like Jerry said people hate thinking outside the box.
 
9:05 PM
Oh, I was merely meaning that it's a framework for psychologists to analyze people's issues.
In the grand scheme of things I managed to trade a body whose evolution I never managed to accept against a body that I manage to actually love from time to time, which makes a world of a difference when it comes to confidence and social interactions ^^
also depression
 
@Morwenn depression is a part of life. Some feel it more than others, but everyone goes through it in the end. It's part of the human experience.
 
Still, we could do without suicide-inducing depression x)
Hadn't I started hormones, I'd probably be in a non-stop miserable state right now and would have never experienced all those good things I was allowed to experience ^^
 
9:20 PM
@Morwenn if you always got your way and were only ever happy, your self-image would become cancerous and metastasize the rest of your ego, you would wind up like Caligula or Patrick Bateman in American Psycho.
 
There's not being happy and wanted to die, which aren't the same thing x)
Even though doctors who handle trans people don't always seem to care, which partly explains the high number of suicides in the community
"lol, try to live two years as a girl - whatever it means - and maayybe we'll give you hormones"
"good luck in the meantime because you look super masc and people won't accept it"
 
Channel that into something productive. People in the military commit suicide all the time and on the surface many of them look normal. Everyone has their own unique challenges. You just need to rise above make the world a better place.
 
9:37 PM
Something productive was actually moving my ass to get hormones.
Double win since I can't have kids anymore ^^
Change what you can for the better, try to accept the rest.
 
9:53 PM
@Rick I don't think we should accept depression as just an unavoidable part of life. I think a lot of the depression we see is caused by things we (society, not necessarily either of us personally) have done. Just for one obvious example, if you were working specifically at inducing neurosis and depression, you could hardly do better than many of our current schools in the US.
 
 
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11:00 PM
@Morwenn I could fucking clone you with a sample of your skin, although it wouldn't be legal in a third world shit hole like Bretagne
 
@JerryCoffin I would take it a step further and say all of our problems are caused by our own hands, whether external or internal. The real question is, can we do anything about it. Education is a good example. Lyndon B. Johnson signed the Highway Beautification ACT in 1965 it was outdoor advertising control legislation. The internet today is the highways of 1965, and it is a better avenue for knowledge than the classroom. It shortens distances and opens communication.
However, companies are monopolizing infrastructure, choosing where access is provided, and prevent large infrastructure roll-out. Furthermore, companies are building into it distractions and traps that play into our evolutionary predispositions. These are systemic problems that need to be dealt with.
 
Still wouldn't be kids x)
 
Once they take the paternrity test you'd be screwed, especially because python devs or data analysists can barley feed themselves
 
11:14 PM
@Mikhail why don't you become his surrogate
 
user8104581
Honestly I feel like people would do better improving things in their reach rather than fixing the world by fighting the system. Realizing the world won't be an ideal place in your lifetime is one way to assert yourself that it's more worth to avoid doing stuff that's going to disrupt your own mental health and enjoyment of life.
 
11:37 PM
@andreyrk That's the sort of logic that leads to things descending to shit
 
^
You generally try to balance both
Improvise. Adapt. Overcome.
 
user8104581
Yeah, not a great way to put it
 

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