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12:03 AM
I set a pig to fly! Pizzas to take, I am quite bored about tomorrow.
 
12:15 AM
@CaptainGiraffe what happened yesterday, and are you planning to put fried pig on the pizza?
do you have a whole pig, or part of a pig? Which part?
 
@jaggedSpire Yesterday was a whole 25kgs pig.
 
ah. Is that what you're excited about?
 
I heard the poof, that was the stun/ you know shot
I'm doing 7 pizzas for 7 people tomorrow. I do not have enough empricals to be confident in my process.
The pig is sunday.
 
oooh
are they just going to be standard cheese pizzas, or what?
 
There is nothing standard about tossing a pizza into a pizza oven. The oven is cool, and predictable
It is the people that wants to help!
 
12:20 AM
lol
why not distract them with preparing side food, like salad?
 
The process for one pizza is understood, and well documented.
I need help If 7 people are going to eat reasonably adjacent.
 
have a fail over dish
 
Help #1 fucked up boiling potatoes, 4 days ago.
 
...wow
what about help 2-7?
do they have salvageable cooking skills?
 
12:23 AM
Help #2 fucked up boiling potatoes, with the warnings of #1 yesterday.
 
are you inviting some of your relatives/friends kids?
 
I'm not confident.
 
what?
 
usually adults who are bad with cooking are unlikely to offer help in the kitchen
 
The neighbours I pray are of the forgiving kind =)
 
12:24 AM
you know two people that have messed up boiled potatoes in the last week?
 
Not my parents, my mom gets angry at me when she fucks up.
I'ts just a matter of life I have to adjust to.
 
maybe they can tear lettuce?
 
Great!
 
so now you've got five
 
My nephew is solid. He can even make the pizzas.
Allow me to give you some insight into my frustration:
 
12:28 AM
excellent!
 
I want to do the tomato sauce. Simple and very much toamto.
No mom did that Thursday! At this point, I'm getting scared
 
is the cheese all shredded?
 
So, mom is getting old, but still...
 
are you doing any variations that require more ingredients?
 
Grandpas Smoking Weed for the First Time. So many comment upvotes on a video that's only a few hours old.
 
12:32 AM
Moms sauce is just a bunch of tomatoes in a pan. Lots and lots of ingredients, but tomatoes in a pan.
You can't spread a tomato on a pizza.
 
indeed not
 
Now of course Mom is angry with me.
So the party is going to be awkard.
 
:|
hm
how big are the tomatoes she used?
or the tomato chunks
 
If you have a small fist, that is exactly the size.
Apple sized is another analogy.
 
hm
...what is it usually eaten with?
 
12:40 AM
It is usually used with mince as a spaghetti sauce
 
could you have breadsticks?
 
=)
I love mom, but she can be dramatic UB when she wants to.
 
alas
it's never fun when your loved ones optimize out null checks
 
She is is old. In pain and a hard to control diabetes. She is my new mom.
 
awh. :(
are any of the five remaining helpers helpless when cooking?
 
12:47 AM
#2 is disqualified from the potato incident.
 
so it's a family gathering ...
with your sister's/brother's kids
 
I'm going to need the help from a Minnesota Penny!
And neighbours =)
It'll work out.
 
Yep, my nephew, (I got him a gig at the local shop for the summer) his GF and the neighbours
My nephew is an american dude, he could not believe the rates they were paying him for a summer gig =)
 
I wanna learn C++
Should i?
 
12:53 AM
@Tobiq Don't we all?
 
I know languages like C# JS python etc
 
Learn Rust instead
 
Whats rust
 
The future
 
I wrote a crappy program in C++
but i mean like properly learn C++
 
12:53 AM
@Tobiq Basically it is oxidization.
 
like ive forgotten everything
I can write a desktop program in JS
why should i use C++?
if not for performance
 
You can write a desktop program in JS? I hate you. Nothing more, nothing less.
 
electron is literally hitler
 
@milleniumbug according to your logic, electricity must be hitler's army
 
not very convincing
Do you feel its worth learning C++ fully
in todays climate
 
1:16 AM
@Tobiq Yes. Global warming favors efficient execution, which means C++.
 
Why not assembly, then
C++ very innefficient in comparison
 
I think you should try logo.
 
@Tobiq Because we're too lazy. Also, portability is often useful.
 
@Tobiq You young padwan has a lot to learn.
 
If you're lazy, youll love python
write 100 lines of C++ in 1 line
whats logo
 
1:19 AM
@JerryCoffin Jerry can out-assemble gcc!
 
@CaptainGiraffe Thats cuz he used to work for IKEA
 
@Tobiq what are tradeoffs
 
@Borgleader Where is the Star++ when you really need it!
 
What do u mean @milleniumbug
 
you seem to think that performance/convenience is not a spectrum, but a binary choice
 
what jerry?
 
@Tobiq You must learn the art of (at least) double entendre: "If you're lazy, you'll love Haskell."
 
???????
 
Assembly is for the lazy. Just write machine code.
 
@littlepootis As one of the few here who's actually done that, let me just say: "No".
 
1:25 AM
Ditch abstractions like the operating system
 
@Borgleader Now, If Jerry says he can do it. I'll trust Jerry to out-assemble gcc with a single allen wrench.
 
1:49 AM
@Borgleader Not true. I assembled bicycles, not furniture (true story).
@littlepootis I've done that too. Again, "No".
 
@JerryCoffin We make our undergrads do this, the smart kids write a simple assembler
 
@Mikhail ...and the smarter ones implement a simple Lisp (or similar...)
 
We gave an assignment where they had to write Sudoku for MIPS (4000?)
 
@Mikhail You've just rubbed a raw nerve. There's no such thing as "in MIPS". It's "In MIPS assembly language". And no, not "assembler language" either--that's like calling C++ a "compiler language".
 
FOR
Although now the curriculum is based on the "LC-3"
 
 
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3:27 AM
@sehe 's early years
2
 
d'awwwww
 
he was a very photogenic youngster, as it turns out
 
I know right ...
 
you must ❤️ your work a lot
lol ...
 
4:00 AM
anyone here good with sysadmin on Ubuntu?
 
4:18 AM
I have changed root directory a few times. I have a bunch of files sitting in '/etc/apache2' and its sub-directories
now it becomes confusing ...
 
4:38 AM
Oo ... figured it out, things are easier than I thought ...
 
 
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6:56 AM
@BaguetteGarlique NA gw2 pvp
 
What has happened to YouTube again? It looks as if it were steam rolled.
 
7:23 AM
@LucDanton wew
 
at least they got $400 out of it
 
@StackedCrooked Well...this clip is much more interesting. :) Tame Impala - The Less I Know The Better - YouTube
 
8:06 AM
@Tobiq Looking at the complexity of C++, learning it "fully" (whatever that means) is more or less unrealistic these days.
 
Manjaro Linux , or simply Manjaro, is a Linux distribution based on Arch Linux. Manjaro Linux is based on the rolling release update model similar to that of Arch Linux and uses pacman as its package manager. == Relation to Arch Linux == Manjaro Linux is based on Arch Linux and has its own collection of repositories. The distribution aims to be new user-friendly while maintaining the Arch base, most notably the Pacman package manager and compatibility with the Arch User Repositories. Manjaro uses three sets of repositories: The unstable repositories contain the most bleeding edge Arch packages...
^ never used Arch-based distros so far, kinda bored, downloading now :)
 
nwp
2 messages moved from C++ Questions and Answers
 
The magic of move semantics...
 
8:37 AM
@BaguetteGarlique let's form a startup - talentless.com
cheapest labour - guaranteed!
 
nwp
Why is a QTableWidgetItem not a QWidget? Stupid special cases.
 
@LucDanton what is that
are you a acker
 
@BaguetteGarlique no you misunderstand, it’s a tool that reads memory
as you can tell, it’s legit
 
Arrest this man
 
8:54 AM
@nwp ...because the inheritance tree has rotten branches.
..or maybe root rot.
 
nwp
You can use regular widgets instead, but then they don't support colors. Why can't I set the background color of a QLineEdit?
Someone should make a better Qt.
@nwp You can, it is just not ->setBackgroundColor like in a QTreeWidgetItem. Instead it is ->setStyleSheet(weird_css_like_text).
 
Hi
 
9:33 AM
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user5549921
uhhhh
 
user5549921
Can't ask questions here?
 
10:09 AM
@finnrayment You just did!
 
user5549921
@wilx :)
 
user5549921
I've read the etiquette since then anyway. "Participate before you ask". Fair enough.
 
10:25 AM
Uh, I have to handle one of these merge conflicts where I removed files from a branch, and merged it in another branch where these files had been modified.
Gret.
 
10:35 AM
how is that any worse than any other merge conflict
 
poor man being named Bagwell
 
@Puppy Not sure, but it is.
It generally doesn't take that long.
 
user784668
@fredoverflow Who?
 
user784668
@Morwenn how is this even a conflict
 
10:45 AM
@Fanael The father of practical persistent immutable collections, basically.
Clojure, Scala and Haskell wouldn't be the same without him.
 
@Fanael Conflicts everywhere /o/
 
@Fanael Well, do you want the changed files, or do you want them gone?
 
user784668
@fredoverflow wat
 
user784668
What are his inventions?
 
user784668
HAMT, anyhting else?
 
10:49 AM
Oh wait, vectors were Rich's invention, right?
But they were based on HAMT, if I'm not mistaken.
 
user784668
@fredoverflow Vectors are suboptimal.
 
Suboptimal in what sense?
 
user784668
In "crap complexity" sense.
 
@fredoverflow Actually it's worse than that: I deleted some of them, fused others, and moved some files again.
 
@Fanael Vectors were only about 2.5x slower than arrays last time I checked, which I find pretty amazing.
 
user784668
10:53 AM
@fredoverflow You can do persistent arrays with constant time and space overhead, though.
 
user784668
So Scala immutable vectors, being logarithmic in both, are crappy.
 
@Fanael What language/library implements those?
 
user784668
Fuck if I know.
 
Okay, so how did you learn about the better approch?
 
user784668
I read a paper?
 
10:56 AM
And the name of the paper was...
 
meh
lower complexity does not mean better performance
 
user784668
@fredoverflow I don't remember, sorry.
 
Since all major FP languages (like 2 or 3 lol) seem to have adopted the O(log32 n) approach, I am going to assume that no radically better approach has been discovered yet.
 
user784668
@fredoverflow I am going to assume that nobody knows about the better approaches instead.
 
user784668
That's what friggin' sorting taught me.
 
11:02 AM
@Fanael So why don't you implement the better approach and prove its superiority with benchmarks? Fame and riches guaranteed!
 
user784668
@fredoverflow Did you miss the part where I told you I don't remember the name of the paper, let alone how the approach worked?
 
That's pretty weak.
 
@Fanael This is the first time you mention not remembering how the approach worked :(
 
user784668
Oh, I was wrong.
 
user784668
Arrays can't be made persistent in O(1) space or memory.
 
11:05 AM
not surprisingly
 
user784668
They can be in O(loglogn), though.
 
user784668
I must've been thinking about making tree-based structures persistent, because they can be made persistent in O(1).
 
user784668
Unlike path copying, which requires O(logn) overhead for each copy.
 
user784668
Paper dump incoming, because I'm sure you're gonna be very interested:
 
user784668
 
That's pretty not weak.
 
11:48 AM
Ugh, Clang 5.0 problem on Travis. Once again I'll have to wait T_T
 
11:59 AM
This is horrible.
Marvel still isn't learning their lesson about letting idiots with agendas run their IPs into the ground. https://t.co/ttMAB9qgQx
 
12:15 PM
I hate Finnish keyboard layout it fucking sucks!!!
 
@Horttanainen Then don't use it. :)
 
I dont
But sometimes I have to
And I change to vim with fi layout on ... ö is where the : is ... It kills me
 
:o
More like rotated :o actually.
 
I use the US layout. It is the least sucky layout out there if you dont want to go dvorak or something like that
 
I use the Franch azerty layout because learning another layout is boring.
 
12:25 PM
Fuck me that is almost equally bad. How can you write a language with ; in the end of every fucking line with a layout like that???
In the US layout ; is always under your finger. No need to press three key combos
 
@Horttanainen Habits.
 
Hobbits
 
Using every finger helps.
4
 
(Insert dirty smiley here)
 
@Horttanainen Nah, currently only my index and middle fingers have short nails.
 
12:37 PM
Sorry about that joke
 
No problem.
 
Please keep the discussion civil at all times.
 
I know I failed
 
12:52 PM
I won.
Hehe, people are excited about metaclasses they probably won't see before 10 years.
 
Same :(
 
I've got an algorithm to steal, but only 30 minutes left.
Guess I'll do it later.
 
I wanted to steal some code yesterday, but ended writing my own coz it was quicker
 
Here it looks like it's a few thousand lines of code for an algorithm I don't really understand.
 
so ... if I have both index.html and index.php in a web directory, which one will be used?
@Morwenn Copy and paste it will be easy, getting it to work might be easy. But fixing any bug in it will likely to be nightmare ...
 
1:04 PM
Telkitty why do you use php?
3
 
@Telkitty Fixing any bug is basically "open an issue in the original project".
 
@Horttanainen legacy code
 
Adding features to the algorithm without understanding it is sometimes tricky though.
 
@Telkitty You keep saying it is legacy code, but how much code there really is?
 
@Horttanainen Any written code is legacy code.
 
1:08 PM
@Morwenn Yes but you cannot justify still using php with "legacy code" remark if the conversion to javascript would take less than a week
 
@Horttanainen haxing wordpress
how much code do you think it's in wordpress?
 
I have no idea. Never used wordpress
 
> Lucas H. has invited you to join Ruby on Rails loading script in html erb. See your invitations.
wat
 
gonna be a long way home
 
user784668
@Horttanainen Depends on the language, really. Dvorak is spectacularly bad for Polish for example
 
user784668
@Horttanainen Yes because javascript is much better than php lol
 
@Fanael Just mentioned first that popped to mind. Point is: Programmers should not choose the keyboard layout based on the language they write messages to their mothers
@Fanael Yes
 
user784668
2:06 PM
I'd rather do serverside in assembly than either php or js
 
3:29 PM
@fredoverflow I was going to complain about the sound quality, but couldn't quite decide whether the problem was when the sound was so muffled that I couldn't understand what he was saying, or when it was clear enough that I could.
 
@fredoverflow It's Ruby - app progress is measured with a calendar, and action completion events are signaled by invitations sent out by post to a grand 'Ruby Finsihed Something' Gala ball and dinner.
 
3:43 PM
@MartinJames I'm not sure, but I think I may be getting the impression that you think of Ruby as operating with a certain sense of ... stately grace and decorum, rather than demeaning itself in the pursuit of mere speed.
 
@JerryCoffin If you don't RSVP the invitations, Ruby blocks forever:)
 
@MartinJames I have it on good authority that after unplugging the computer, Ruby ceases to block (though it may be a few days after you unplug the computer).
 
@JerryCoffin heh...
 
3:59 PM
Is @rightfold a female yet
 
@BartekBanachewicz In what sense?
 
Coming out step two 🌈 https://t.co/FPZqyrcBCT
 
4:16 PM
other rooms you are in
**Trash can**
 
the only part of that that surprises me is that it's dated from this year instead of five years ago
 
nwp
4:35 PM
Apparently there are new email settings /cc @Ven
 
@fredoverflow SO dont do it??????????????????????
 
He wasn't implying that.
 
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4:58 PM
Gyandromorphs have been found in a handful of other animals, including birds and lobsters.
 
@BartekBanachewicz :o
 
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Q: convert custom hex code to string in c++

Surjit SidhuI'm trying to write simple encryption, please take look at below code I expecting it return hello by map with mapOfWords array How to write decode function so, it return string as I'm expecting #include <iostream> #include <string> #include <map> using namespace std; std::string decode...

please help me with this question
 
5:20 PM
I can downvote it, does that qualify?
 
6:01 PM
:D
 
6:30 PM
I want to be cuter and cuddle myself for some reason.
 
@Morwenn not sure if narcissism or masturbation :D
 
Morwenn sounds like you need a boyfriend, that is if you are into boys
 
@milleniumbug It would be narcissism if I liked myself enough xD
@Horttanainen Too complicated.
 
6:36 PM
Oh, and I'm not really into boys.
 
@Morwenn needs a big fluffy doggo
 
I meant men/boys
 
@Borgleader *-*
@Horttanainen I understood what you meant, but I'm still not really into that x)
 
@Borgleader Seriously, how can it be so big yet so cute? :o
I like the big doggo more.
 
6:39 PM
Me too, you can use the bigger one as a pillow (I'd be scared of squishing the smol one)
 
Tiny kitteh is great too :D
@Borgleader Excellent idea :o
 
Do you know about this live stream? youtube.com/watch?v=I6OKjLsKfRY
 
@Borgleader I remember that one. It's so cute ^^
 
@Morwenn I meant men/boys/dirty rich older men
 
6:43 PM
@Horttanainen are you trolling or just thick?
 
Now I am joking
 
@Horttanainen When do they do stupid things? :D
 
@Morwenn All the time.
 
They look like they're trying to sleep right now.
 
Today's 'best' UB question has: 'i = ++i + i-- + i++ + ++i;' :((
 
6:45 PM
They gave away the last batch of rescue kittens and the current residents are like 5 weeks old
 
<3<3<3
Uh, I need to hand up the laundry :/
@Horttanainen xD
 
@Morwenn I am glad you found that funny because borgleader thinks I am thick now
 
Its the internet... ya never know >.>
 
7:05 PM
@Borgleader I like to tell that to people too x)
Meh, it looks like in-place super scalar sample sort is slower than I expected it to be :/
 
7:24 PM
Hello guys, Does any one know of am easy C++ open source project I can participate in?
 
Successful open-source C++ projects tend not to be easy.
 
Yeah, you better use of these rather than create
even using of some oo libraries is hard
 
7:37 PM
There was that something that was not dead, but probably was dead, and is now even more probably dead, but I've forgotten what it was anyway..
 
@MartinJames Thanks xD
 
It was something very cold?
 
@MartinJames Beer?
 
@Puppy No! Beer is never truly dead, like vampires. Cryostat?
 
Beer is dead when it's hot, not when it's cold.
 
7:42 PM
@Morwenn I can drink it hot. It's vile, but I can do it if thirsty enough.
 
@MartinJames Wow. I would drink water anytime if hot beer is the alternative.
 
I have no beer of any temperature ATM:( I do, however have an oaked chardonnay to which I'm applying myself, (cold:).
 
I am drinking radler right now
 
I don't even know whether I've got any alcohol right now.
I don't drink alone anyway ^^
 
@Morwenn Me neither - that's why I'm always logged on.
 
7:46 PM
xD
Let me reformulate: I don't drink if there nobody physically around, who also drinks and with whom I'm supposed to interact.
 
@Morwenn Okay, it doesn't have to be successful!
 
@Horttanainen That's like a fruity beer, right?
 
hmm
 
@Aelgawad Then you can look forl literally anything on GitHub. There are literally thousands of open-source C++ projects.
 
amazing how it makes a difference
a large pizza (13.5 inch diameter) has 143 square inches of pizza
a medium pizza (11.5 inch diameter) has 103 square inches of pizza
 
7:48 PM
@Morwenn There is nobody here to drink with. Anne has gone out to a wedding pissup, and I'm well past the point of no driving.
 
Radler is a perfect drink for coding: It contains just enough alcohol to take the pain away, but not enough to take off the edge
 
@MartinJames Well past the point of [[noreturn]]? :p
 
@MartinJames Beer and sprite mixed. One half of each
 
@Morwenn Thanks. I am trying to get hands on experience in C++, would you say thats the way to go?
 
@Aelgawad I don't know. I got experience by doing my own stuff and stealing code around.
 
7:51 PM
@Puppy I've noticed that too. Lidl pizza is just noticeably larger than Iceland pizza, but I can eat the Iceland easy, the Lidl really takes some effort to get down. That extra inch or two really does matter:)
 
@Aelgawad Just do a snake game using C++. That is way more interesting project than most of the stuff you are going to find from random repos
 
@Horttanainen Orite:)
 
@Horttanainen Do I need a graphics library for that?
 
@Aelgawad If you want graphics
 
@Puppy Of course, both need extra pepperoni, chillies and tabasco sauce.
 
7:53 PM
of course
 
@Aelgawad You can use sdl if you dont know where to start
 
@Horttanainen Okay I'll do a research on sdl then. I suppose it would be harder trying to implement a Snake game on the console.
 
@Puppy whats the price diff between the two?
 
@Aelgawad I think you benefit more on learning to use sdl
@Aelgawad You can also just google sdl snake game. There are probably a lot of tutorials which you can use to get started
 
@Horttanainen Great! Thank you.
 
7:58 PM
@Borgleader Less than 10%
@Horttanainen Isn't SDL a worthless pile of shit?
 
@Puppy You recommend a better one then :)
 
@Puppy Interesting, so 40% more for 10% price thats good.
 
@Borgleader My frozen pizzas are all GBP 0.95-1.00, less turbocharged topping :)
 
@Borgleader Actually in my situation bad
I'm far less concerned about my money than about my waistline ;p
 
Diet? Oh
 
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