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12:01 AM
He was very confused at why Ryzen was getting its ass kicked by Intel in y-cruncher. And incorrectly attributed it to the memory bandwidth.
I guess the memory bandwidth isn't wrong per se, but it's not the dominant factor.
 
Ell
Tweet him
 
@Mysticial Only if he doesn't have his CPU or motherboard fried. :D
 
Ell
And correct him
 
I'm concerned with how the Ryzen 3 performs in game benchmarks.
Why couldn't they just do Ryzen 3 with SMT.
 
12:09 AM
I'll do it if he misattributes the reason again on Threadripper vs. Skylake X.
 
Then have Ryzen 5 all 6 cores.
@Mysticial Or you could ask for a collab. :D
 
If and when I figure out how to solve this "shitty L3 cache" issue on Skylake X, this AMD vs. Intel gap is gonna be even larger - as large as it was prior to Zen.
But that'll take some time.
 
Ell
@MarkGarcia you know even the old architecture Apus are good enough for gaming
Look at the caveri architecture A12-9800
It can play BF4 and DOOM
That's a $90 CPU with integrated graphics
I'm looking forward to Zen APUs
 
@Ell It still should be beating the i3. Well I guess it's true what Linus said that with background processes 4 "true" cores should do better than i3.
@Ell Me too. But still around Q4. Might have saved enough to buy a current Ryzen. I'll be using a dGPU anyway.
Don't know of any big titles utilizing dGPU + iGPU.
 
I'm interested in the actual pricing of the 7980XE and whether Intel decides to stop being a douche and solder them.
My guess is that it's gonna be more than the $2000 stated because it seems everybody fucking wants it and there will be very little supply in comparison to the 12/14/16-core parts due to yields.
So you'll end up in a situation worse than it is right now for the 6/8/10-core Skylake X's where it's all sold out and you can only buy it at a mark up from scalpers.
Skylake X has launched almost exactly 1 month ago. And they still can't stay in stock for more than a few hours at a time.
 
12:24 AM
@Mysticial Unless you pre-order. ;)
 
@MarkGarcia That's how I got my 7900X early and for only $1000.
* only * $1000
 
It's interesting that with Intel's greed, it may just be AMD that's actually reaping the profits.
@Mysticial Yeah. * only * :D
It's fucking hilarious how everyone on /r/AMD is shitting on Vega right now.
 
Runs too hot and uses too much power?
 
thats redundant
 
Ell
12:39 AM
@MarkGarcia yeah the rumoured price is ridiculous
 
1155€ oh lol
i hadnt noticed it was €
thats even worse
you knows... thats a bit more than what i paid for my entire PC
5 years ago
so even with inflation it about matches
 
12:52 AM
yeah, part of me might be a vegetable in its past life
 
 
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2:18 AM
@Xeo @Mysticial @ScarletAmaranth Youkoso Jitsuryoku Shijou Shugi no Kyoushitsu e is super fascinating. Instantly addictive.
 
 
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3:55 AM
need to add captcha in contact form
which means I need to re-learn PHP
 
@Borgleader are either Frank or Mike still present at the company?
 
@StackedCrooked Suggestion taken.
 
 
Though my plan tonight to catch up on Anime fell apart since rebuilding my older box is taking a lot longer than I anticipated.
 
mail server compromised again
 
4:17 AM
@Mysticial any news on selling your pie business pi program?
 
4:39 AM
So I'm visiting Georgia Tech for work,what should I do?
 
got my international drivers license ...
 
too bad driving a motor vehicle is criminal in Australia/Austria
 
4:48 AM
I should make shitty commits
Told some chick she had a Canadian accent, the chick didn't believe me.
 
5:30 AM
sometimes, your code is like a bamboo basket - when you patched one hole, you realise that you still have another 99 left
 
@Telkitty Sounds like a song.
 
lol
trying to get this captcha code to work in this PHP form ... quick hax, kitteh knows how :p
 
@Telkitty PHP <-- There is your problem.
 
legacy code
 
@Telkitty Excuses.
@Telkitty Or... Duh!
 
5:46 AM
it could be a 30 minutes quick hax or 3 hours work re-writing the form
as a lazy prograndma ...
 
@Telkitty Prograndma?
 
programmer ... prograndma ... close enough :p
 
eau de portmonteu
 
prograndma entreprenerd
 
6:12 AM
Hi
I am learning CMake
 
6:47 AM
^^ Really man really?
1.7k for the top-end "Skylake Certified" ram. lol
 
@Mysticial They have to pay the guy who sticks these to the motherboard for testing you know.
There are 8! possible combinations!
 
Oh wait, there's an even higher model: newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820232578
Sold out.
People are really price insensitive to this high-end shit.
 
>higher model
>same frequency and timings
>RGB
( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
 
RGB matters!
 
or producer only makes few because not many people buying
 
7:01 AM
Granted, IMO, RGB is only desirable if done in mass and done right.
You need to have multiple components RGBing together (not necessarily in sync). But not so much that it's blinding.
 
Yeah. Half-assed and it looks tacky.
 
I rebuilt my 5960X rig in a new case with a new cooler and an NVMe SSD. Gonna switch to it as my main machine in a few days. No LEDs at all, but has a window. And it looks really nice.
But if I try to force any lights into it, it looks tacky.
OTOH, my Skylake X build is RGB'ed from top to bottom with glass windows and looks really nice.
 
@Mysticial 960 EVO?
Really wanting to have one.
instaboot
 
So if I do end up doing an 18-core upgrade later this year (or an entirely new build), I'll need to pick either no lights at all, or RGB everything. The problem with RGB is that there are no high-powered RGB fans to put on my radiators.
@MarkGarcia No, I cheaped out.
This is my first NVMe SSD (not including the one that came with my laptop).
No need to overspend just yet.
 
@Mysticial Wow that's much less expensive. Noted. Hope local retailers have it here.
 
7:11 AM
The other purpose of rebuilding my 5960X box is to test out this cooler: pcpartpicker.com/product/4Qhj4D/…
To see if it's something I want to use for the 18-core later this year if I do go that route.
But it also means no RGB.
 
@Mysticial High-power RGB or high-power airflow? :p Either way pretty sure Corsair has you covered.
 
@MarkGarcia Not even Corsair has how-powered (airflow) fans with RGB.
So I'm stuck between a rock and a hard place.
But Corsair does have very nice non-RGB magnetic levitation fans. (ML140)
I have a couple 140mm ones which I put on my 280mm rad cooler.
They really powerful.
 
@Mysticial Dude that looks overkill for an AIO.
 
I don't recommend that people, especially curious non-scientists, use sci-hub to quickly and easily access almost a… https://twitter.com/i/web/status/890650809595121665
 
With only 5 fans. The 6th will hit the HD bays and cover.
I can get rid of the HD bay to fit that 6th fan if I want to. But since this is going to my main box, I need to put my two HDs into it.
 
7:19 AM
need to fit all the porn
 
@Mysticial Corsair Carbide Quiet? Pretty sure quiet isn't the case!
Looks glorious tho.
 
Cable management at the bottom is shit compared to my Skylake X build because of the PCI cards at the bottom.
@MarkGarcia Corsair 400C.
 
oh right the windowed version
 
The 5960X is also the biggest chip I have that's soldered. So I can push the thermals to see what that cooler is capable of.
I already dropped 5 - 10C over my H110 with this rebuild on the exact same overclock.
Though part of that was probably because I redid the thermal paste. I think I had a bit too much before. And it was like that since 2014 when I first built it.
 
@Mysticial I just looked and now I'm hesitating between that or the Define C. I'm just about to buy a case.
 
7:24 AM
@MarkGarcia Oooh, that's also small mid tower.
@MarkGarcia One thing about that is the cover on the bottom seems to be one piece. So if you put in a 360 rad, you need to remove the entire cover.
On the 400C and 460X, there's a gap that will fit a rad + fan. And if you want to do push-pull on the bottom, you only need to kick out the HD cage and shroud. The PSU shroud can stay.
My Skylake X build is the 460X RGB. I liked it so much that I went with the 400C (the non-tempered glass version) for this 5960X rebuild.
 
@Mysticial That seems also the case for the Define C, which has pretty much the same shroud thing. Anyway I don't think I'll ever get to that point :D
 
Yeah, 360 rads are still kind of niche.
Even 280s are rare.
And both are big enough that you need to pay attention to what kind of case you get.
 
Also aren't you kind of blowing the hot CPU air inside with the config?
Dunno much about water cooling setups.
Saw some corsair instruction vids and they recommend sucking air in.
 
@MarkGarcia Different trade-offs for mounting the rads as exhaust vs. intake.
But based on the videos I've seen as well as basic physics, given that CPUs run the hottest and the most likely to overheat, it's better to mount them as intake.
Give them fresh cold air. Fuck the rest of the shit in the case.
Since I like small cases, it's basically impossible to find a case that can mount a rad on the top unless it's really tall. So the front is the best. Nobody needs drive bays anymore.
Also, putting the rad in the front means you move half the point of AIO failures away from the expensive parts of the build.
When AIOs leak (which is incredibly rare), they almost always leak at the tube connections.
 
@Mysticial I guess for those with high-end GPUs that isn't acceptable.
 
7:38 AM
Put the rad in the front and you move have those weak points away from the mobo/CPU/GPU, etc...
@MarkGarcia The two YT videos I saw tested with large GPUs and different kinds of GPUs.
They surprisingly weren't affected that much.
Anyways, I need to sleep.
 
Sleep tight.
 
Just noticed that my HD shroud was misaligned in that picture because one of the clips didn't go in. Fixed. Now I sleep.
Also if you get the 400C or the 460X, be ready to rage over cable management. It's insane.
 
Thanks for the advice!
 
My amazing ability of learning stuff, my even more amazing ability of forgetting things I have just learnt ...
zero sum game
 
7:59 AM
Hi
 
Under what circumstances can I expect my C++ program to use denormalized numbers? Are they enabled by "default"? Where default means like, if I take a random Linux machine x86 that there is a very high chance, that they are enabled...
 
ugh fuck tab-indented code
just fuck people who use tabs in general
 
khm, (just to be sure) what about pressing tab to place spaces? :D
or you just hate when people press tab?
 
the right way to indent is with a Steam controller
 
@login_not_failed that's not tab indented code
 
8:09 AM
@BartekBanachewicz ikr
 
whatever method you use to input text, make sure the file doesn't have the '\t' character in it
it's that simple
 
good thing that makefiles don't exist
 
Guise, what is your favorite music streaming service?
 
@BaguetteGarlique Haha, I had almost forgotten about that seemingly retarded behaviour :D
@Rerito Bandcamp
 
8:19 AM
youtube ... with adblock on
I have infinite amount of bandwidth though
 
@Morwenn Seems to be oriented to indep artists
 
@Rerito True. I use YouTube for pretty much everything else.
 
@Morwenn Even for mobile use?
 
@Rerito Even for mobile use.
I don't listen to music via internet when I don't have access to wifi anyway.
 
8:40 AM
@Rerito I use spotify but I don’t know if I would call it a favourite
 
@LucDanton Basically I'm trying to make up my mind between deezer, google play music and spotify
They offer almost the same repertoire and for the same pricing
 
Good morning Everyone.
I want to write txt by using 'echo' command on prompt, but ' character is problem. Has anyone done this? ex:) echo 'http://localhost:8080/yahoo.log' >> result.txt
 
8:56 AM
@Morwenn "seemingly retarded"
 
@jaggedSpire Assuming Mike is Mike Morhaime then he's still there (he's president of the company), and assuming Frank is Frank Pearce, well he's in the mini series of videos so I would assume he still works there.
 
@Rerito Spotify
@Morwenn do you have Red? IIRC you can't listen to YT with your screen off on mobile
also not sure if hw solutions for e.g. next song/rewind work on yt
 
@BartekBanachewicz I don't think it's available in europe yet
 
@BartekBanachewicz Oh nice. I'll need to look into that :)
 
see what Rerito said, I think it's USA only so far
 
9:01 AM
T_T
 
 
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10:06 AM
yes! I have spent the past 2 hours and written a simple arithmetic captcha
 
Pics or it didn't happen
 
test your maths away!
 
I just wanted to see an example :'(
 
that's the working version with captcha implemented
surely you know what the likes of 7 + 8 equal to?
 
At work, not 'posed to visit unknown sites
 
10:15 AM
excuses excuses ... >_<
 
When I break your captcha system, what will yours be :D
G2g :( back in 3 hrs.
 
seriously in 2 hours? in a language that I have touched a few time in the past 10 years, what kind of bullet proof code are you expecting? :p
 
11:10 AM
Company proxy policies block Telkitty's website. I can't whine about how stupid they are anymore
 
nwp
Maybe that is the first time your company block actually did you a service? :P
 
Exactly
 
nwp
@Telkitty I'm requesting FREE quotes, but nothing happens. I want my money back.
 
11:26 AM
I just realized that there will be 4 landers & rovers landing on the Moon this year.
 
you mean this moon?!!
 
Wow...
 
nwp
I thought the moon was a myth created by the oligarchy to oppress the working class.
 
@nwp Don't worry, it's Flat Moon we're talking about.
 
Moon is just an another hole in the dome
 
11:43 AM
@Telkitty only 2 excuses? Half the usual rate ;p
 
12:11 PM
@nwp did you pass the maths test? :p
 
nwp
@Telkitty I didn't think the math test and the quote were related.
Looks like the math test is for sending a message, not for getting a quote.
 
that's the thing - quotes are done in maths, so the person who requests a quote must know how to do maths ...
 
nwp
Ok, I filled in the math thing, still no quote.
Apparently I just sent an empty message.
 
wait, mail server still needs fix
 
nwp
Wait, I'm supposed to get the quote via e-mail?
 
12:15 PM
yeah
 
nwp
ok, never mind then
you might have an empty string in the list of mail addresses now
 
I have received your empty mail
I have received 2 empty emails so far
 
Yeah I tried it too
 
nwp
@Telkitty are you trying to pull off this?
 
hahaha
coz the only off the box captcha I could find in my 15 minutes quick search were google's
I don't want to use a 3rd party one
next time I'm bored, I will implement a captcha based on physics :p
 
12:22 PM
:o sounds interesting.
 
nwp
I'd rather go with the classic "Are you a bot? Yes ☐ No ☐".
 
Anyone here use Debian?
 
nwp
@ABuckau That sounds like a trick question to make someone commit to answering questions about how to make apt do the right thing.
 
Close. I was wondering, since the update from 9 to 9.1, if I can only download dvd1 and have dvd2-3 (from 9.0) work with it.
Might test if I ever get around to installing it :/
 
nwp
I just used the net-install thing. Probably better unless you plan on installing it many times.
 
Nah, just like having on disk...part of my bug out bag :D
 
 
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1:33 PM
I played some DnD yesterday. It was fun.
My nerd level was incremented.
 
2:09 PM
@nwp Dungeons & Dicks (the flying ones)?
 
nwp
2:31 PM
@Morwenn Yeah. Sometimes some of them spit out white stuff.
 
I have received another email, likely from this chat ... :p
reminded me once I post a chat I have coded and was 'thoroughly tested' the very next week >_<
 
@Telkitty did something break?
 
you need to define 'break' ... :x
 
> A rest or pause, usually from work. Often the mid-morning breaktime in the school day.
 
2:54 PM
Visual Studio installs pretty quickly on NVMe.
 
Here's a dumb question. Aside from c++ and c--, are there any programming languages which end in + or -?
 
@StevenVascellaro You can find plenty of them in this list: esolangs.org/wiki/Language_list
 
@Morwenn ... I am really tempted to use as an example now
 
 
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4:43 PM
@Mysticial what NVMe drive did you pickup?
 
I have a little todo list on my DropBox. It's just a text file (Todo.txt). It would be convenient if I could access it from Chrome.
I wonder how I could magically achieve this.
 
@roscoe_casita Scroll up a few pages.
 
i see ram, not drives
./shrug, I ended up with an intel one, I'm impressed
 
5:02 PM
You scrolled up too far.
Speaking of which, one thing better than an NVMe SSD is a ram drive. And you can certainly do a ram drive with 128GB of ram.
 
sata channel saturation limit
unless ram drives plug directly in pci/e backbone now?
 
That's exactly what NVMe SSDs are. They use the PCIe interface.
 
I'
I'm slow.
ram drive = I'm thinking of the drive enclosure that used to hold sticks of ram
not the real 'software allocated' ram drive
I'm slow ;)
 
oh, aha
3D X-point will probably get pretty close to what you were thinking of.
 
well, you said it exactly, and its exactlty what the old 'ramdrive'/'ramdisk' became, they upgraded and standardized ssd / nvme ~
 
5:08 PM
I don't care too much about the bandwidth of my boot drive. As long as the latency is down, I'm happy. It's not like I'm constantly copying files back-and-forth. If I need to do that (and I do for certain things), then I fire up a ram drive.
Ram drives also the have the advantage of not eating the life of the SSD.
 
aye, I'm about to do exactly that for performance metrics, i've got to generate profiles for multiple apps, all of them read from the disk... I want to eliminate that from the test in a lot of ways
especially because they are the same input/problem/answer, but the formats are different for each one
 
I find the ram drive useful for making snapshots of my source code. I just copy the entire directory (about 10 - 20GB including all the object files and binaries) into the ram drive. Then I run a script which removes all the build artifacts. Then I compress and archive.
If I run the clean up script on the main copy, I'll need to rebuild everything and that takes like an hour.
 
so compare and contrast when you can have from 10% - 90% of the runtime be disk i/o is ... frustrating when producing results
 
Being able to copy 20GB of stuff in 10 seconds as opposed to 1 minute is primarily why I chose NVMe over SATA3. The other reason being that my M.2 slot only supports NVMe and not SATA.
 
most of the work I'm doing now is trying to leverage the 80gbs in the cuda cache
well, in the long run,
if I give you data, build me a program that makes my data, on demand
now that you have that program, execute a query to retrieve the data (read from file)
generate the data via computation, then return it
anyways
 
nwp
5:26 PM
Getting into kolmogorov complexity there.
 
@Mysticial I wouldn't dare to use ramdisk without UPS
random power spike or blackout would result in data loss :/
 
ah, yes nwp, very much so
approaching the limits of information density etc,
oh wow, thank you, I have reading to do, this is exactly the kind of topic
 
@milleniumbug I build on the SSD. It's only the snapshots that are done on the ram disk.
 
if I was building a machine either for myself / or my company... I wouldn't run any computer anymore without an independent ups
small price to pay to stabilize and clean your input power source
the powersupply coming out of the wall.. is dirtier... and not as clean as you would think
I actually had a problem with some kind of weird em field discharging consistantly (think it was the compressor in the fridge) that would knock the power out on the monitors
 
@roscoe_casita Have you ever looked at the output of a typical UPS on an oscilloscope or, more tellingly, a spectrum analyzer? It's pretty ugly.
 
5:40 PM
figures @JerryCoffin , doesn't suprise me.
I haven't*
we used to use this tool at work, that would generate a charge to discharge... as if it was a rubber conveyer belt that builds up charge ... and discharges it into the PC/ Scanner / chip reader etc
 
@roscoe_casita Thing is, most are pretty much a switching power supply, so the "sine wave" is really a stepped square wave. A few expensive ones include filtering to clean that up, but most don't.
 
@JerryCoffin right, because the power supply just turns that into DC in about 3'
so you get this tool fired up to go blast some electronics
you go and nuke the board and make sure it works... go back to computer to log results... wtf happened to my computer?
everyone in the cubicles around is pissed off because you just fired a low grade emp and turned all their pc's off
alright, keep it easy all, thanks for the material @nwp
 
@roscoe_casita Yeah, it's fundamentally silly and quite wasteful that we convert 12 VDC to AC to transmit to the computer, then immediately convert that back down to 12 and 5 VDC again--with power supply losses on both conversions. A friend of mine once helped design and build a UPS that sat inside the machine and supplied DC directly instead. Worked well, but wasn't very successful commercially.
 
6:07 PM
@milleniumbug Actually, I take that back. When I travel, I do everything off a ram drive on my laptop. And I save encrypted to disk. Sometimes I don't even save at all and I sleep the computer. So if someone steals laptop, the act of shutting it down to take out the hard drive will destroy everything.
 
 
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Xeo
7:50 PM
omg yis, new Made in Abyss is out
 
8:11 PM
So, what's everybody up to?
I'm at a rather boring conference in Georgia
 
@Mikhail I'm at work. Just got back from lunch.
 
Same here. Also at work brainstorming some software design shit.
 
Ask on SO :-)
 
Can't. It involves UB.
 
Sooooo, my laptop works again for no fucking good reason.
@Mikhail IRTA « Attack on SO ».
 
8:15 PM
Getting a pointer from a different process over shared memory and reinterpret casting it into a different type and then reading from it. That's got more UB than words in this sentence.
 
@Mysticial There are times that assembly language is easier...
 
I think the only UB part is that the actual pointer can't be trivially moved between processes?
 
Violates strict-aliasing. Dereferencing a dangling a pointer. Using an object without constructing it.
 
Using an object without constructing is a well known pattern, right? Like a placement new?
 
It's UB if the object isn't std::is_trivially_constructible.
 
8:19 PM
Looks you'd benefit from the o' zombie object paradigm with a destroy() and create() operator? eh?
 
It's easy to "make it work". But it's not askable on SO because you'll get skewered by pedants.
 
Yeah, SO has been fucked for years
@Mysticial BTW I really like ZeroC's ice framework for IPC github.com/zeroc-ice/ice
goes across languages very well
 
It's generally hard to get IPC latency below 100ns if you don't do it over shared memory in a lockless fashion.
 
Are you talking about the memory mapping operation, doesn't that go through the OS? AKA when you first share the memory space...
 
Basically two processes that have the same physical page mapped into their local address spaces.
In that page, you put a lockless data structure like a queue.
 
@Mysticial Yep, I guess any alternative is doing it wrong, like constant allocating/De-allocating that space. Looks like the unique thing in your setup is the use of a lockless queue as opposed to one with locks?
 
@Mikhail I wouldn't call it unique. A lot of people do it.
 
Yeah, the C++ community needs to define some behavior that lets objects migrate across process boundaries. std::migrate
 
nwp
8:44 PM
They probably need to define what a process is first. And that is probably not easy to get right across platforms.
 
Then they need to define virtual memory and all that shit.
 
If the objects contained synchro objects, locks and the like, it would be umm.. 'interesting'..
 
nwp
twitch plays some anime today
no clue if it is any good
 
9:23 PM
What kind of project layout do you prefer. include/src first or project name first? Or something else?
 
include/project-name/whatever
 
@StackedCrooked Latter to the extreme. Generally headers and sources in the same folder side-by-side.
 
Yeah, I prefer that too.
At work we have the include/src divide at the top.
I think it's weird. But apparently it's common.
 
Dividing at the top level makes it easier to distribute header + compiled library.
But it's just more clicking overhead during development.
 
9:27 PM
Template-only libraries make the division easier x)
 
However, if one project includes headers from another project then it's nice if a separation exists between "public" and internal headers.
 
nwp
A delivery service company just sent me a letter that they cannot find my address.
14
Sometimes I don't understand the world.
 
@StackedCrooked I greatly dislike the whole include/src/etc business
 
@nwp lol
 
9:35 PM
Interesting stuff
> template-only
muhuhuh
@nwp Cue John Lennon's relevant top hit
 
@sehe Only the best.
 
nwp
@sehe that one?
 
> "Hope..... (on deliverance)"
@nwp I'm glad I risked clicking that on my international roaming data :)
 
nwp
@sehe that may have been Paul McCartney
 
Shit. I'm a peasant.
Who's bad at names.
And faces.
And maybe some other things too.
 
9:43 PM
You could get a facebook, to keep track of faces?
 
hi, is this chat meant to be used for asking questions concerning c++ ?
 
nwp
@ErdincAy no, but that one is
 
@nwp thx will go there, and whats this chat for?
 
nwp
@ErdincAy Recovering from the pain of using C++.
 
:D haha
@nwp how's that working :) haven't recovered since ever
 
nwp
9:50 PM
Some people flee into SIMD madness, others go for Python or Haskell. I'm actually just a noob still on the path of suffering.
 
Rust will save us
 
@nwp @Mik
 
ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn
 
@nwp @Mikhail same here, i am also new, cya (and sry for that line, my glas hit the kb)
 
nwp
Actually modules will solve all problems, so the suffering will end in glorious gratification... Right?
 
9:53 PM
Concepts, you fool - we already have modules in MSVC
Actually the unified call syntax
Needs more Herb Slutter
 
I don't get the "obvious reasons". It would be a lot more "obvious" that you had. And provided a working demo ideone.com or similar — sehe 10 secs ago
 
 
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11:46 PM
I have a pig to fry! Pizzas to make, I'm quite excited about yesterday.
 

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