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12:16 AM
> I wouldn't even be surprised if he gave Alaska to the Russians.
 
12:52 AM
@LoïcFaure-Lacroix I can't really entirely agree. It largely depends on the kind of code you're writing and how it'll be used. As long as you're writing stuff that's just for yourself, and maybe a few of your friends, dynamic typing is fine. If you want production quality code, it's pretty much a nightmare (aside: "has been pushed into production", regardless of the number of users, etc., does not really imply production quality--nor does the number of multi-trillionaires it's created, etc.)
 
type checking python code is easy
Python has function annotations and decorators.
You can combine both to do a @type_check decorator to do it for you if you care.
 
To be more specific: yes, I realize that Facebook uses PHP. I've also looked at their code (examined a fair amount of it in some detail, AAMOF). It's been in production a long time, and a fair number of people have made quite a bit of money from it--it's still not even close to production quality, or even "share with your friends without being embarrassed" quality, for that matter.
 
you have this mis-conception: it's not code that makes the money, it's money itself
tech used to be good - inventing useful products
now it's like finance, nobody cares about what's useful, goal is on making profit
like trading sardine
nobody cares what's in a can of sardine as long as you can buy low sale high
 
@Telkitty I don't have a misconception at all. I have a difference in values. Further, I don't care about their opinions--as far as I care, their code is sufficient to demonstrate that they have defective judgement and stupid opinions.
 
@LoïcFaure-Lacroix teehee, high
 
1:11 AM
@JerryCoffin IMHO, 4chan deserves IPO, 10 years ago, more than snapchat nowadays, rofl
 
@Telkitty Nickel for one, dime for the other. Both utter silliness.
 
the whole human race itself runs on a ponzi scheme, the better you play according to it's rules, the higher the chance you will be more wealthy
 
1:29 AM
> nespa
No you guys don't
 
don’t we though
 
@JerryCoffin I believe some people really don't care about how the code looks as long as it works good enough
 
2:13 AM
I wonder how many people have written a whole working system with perfect logic
I, myself, can not do that
 
2:25 AM
I have this app, on the market for years, thousands of (possibly ex) users. Then I found out this major logic flaw ...
 
3:05 AM
@LoïcFaure-Lacroix What constitutes "good enough"? That if they lots of servers, and just do "rolling reboots", that's good enough?
 
3:28 AM
I'd say good enough is when when your user don't feel the bad architecture design you chose to build your project on. I think 99% of the internet is built with that in mind.
 
4:14 AM
@LoïcFaure-Lacroix I think a tremendous amount of the bad architecture of Internet "stuff" does affect users--they just don't realize how (and how much) it affects them.
 
4:32 AM
Aha thinking about it, you might be right.
 
4:49 AM
When you consulted the whole internet & still couldn't solve the issue in your software ...
 
 
2 hours later…
7:17 AM
Car broken down again
Best thing on Friday eve ...
 
8:07 AM
What is it this time?
 
nwp
"It keeps running out of gas. So annoying."
 
8:23 AM
Hi
 
nwp
oh, this is nice:
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maybe I should get that
 
8:53 AM
@ABuckau I might need to change the battery - that's the optimistic view of the problem
currently at home now
still a couple of month left on warranty, so if there is something major need to be worked on, as long as the problem is found within that time frame
so first thing first, change the battery within next few days
 
9:44 AM
Hi guise
I've got a latex problem an can't browse tex.stackexchange because silly web proxy policies
So I'll just ask there if by any chance some of you faced the same problem
I use the environment "longtable". I made an alias command (with parameters) to automate the generation of the caption and label of my tables
If I "inline" it (ie do it by hand), all is good. If I use my custom command I get a "misplaced \noalign" error
 
Where can I upload it?
 
ueh, dunno
 
10:07 AM
The debunking of a classical girls/pink and boys/blue association may now itself have become debunked.… https://twitter.com/i/web/status/880697205069361152
 
@Telkitty did the car not start, or die while driving? ...you'd know if it was the battery when turning over engine: less than normal noise, which quickly diminishes to no noise/tick tick tick.
Could be the alternator: I had one that only quit working at high rpm..worked around town (without recharging/jumping) but died at start of long trip...had it tested, they told me it was good...still happened; replaced alternator and problem went away.
..now that I think about it, could have been a temperature thing...but definitely quit working once I'd get about 20 miles out.
Had to park and idle for a while to charge up battery twice to make it back :p
 
10:44 AM
I like the proposal to automatically reduce std::ratio :D
 
Xeo
10:59 AM
doesn't it already do that?
 
@Xeo std::ratio<X, Y>::type is reduced, but std::ratio<1, 2> and std::ratio<2, 4> are currently different types.
 
Xeo
ah
breaking change tho, eh?
 
Looks like so. I hardly see a case where you'd like to make a difference between two equivalent ratio types, so it shouldn't break much code.
And code that was aware of the difference probably already used ::type anyway, so it's likely that only poor code will break.
 
Xeo
so, the majority of code w
 
xD
I don't know libraries that use std::ratio apart from unit libraries.
Eh, I need to read the latest chapters of ReLIFE. I'm not up-to-date.
 
nwp
@Mgetz I hate that women. Openly admitting that she uses her personal feelings/judgment instead of considering the good of the country should get her fired immediately.
 
@nwp I realize you have a violent dislike but could you hold off on disqualification until the US gets a better president?
 
our code at work has liblegacy with its own string in it #killme
 
@BartekBanachewicz time to start culling parts of it that are unused?
 
12:10 PM
@ratchetfreak I won't touch that with a 10 feet pole
this library is a dependency of our core class used in literally everything
 
nwp
a shame I missed the age when 10 foot poles were used
 
you can propose updating it to make liblegacy::string wrap around std::string
unless it has to maintain ABI compat?
 
nwp
12:26 PM
Is openable a proper word? Spell-checkers don't seem to know it but dictionary.com does.
 
@nwp That's an openable question for english.SE
 
nwp
Closable doesn't seem to exist either. By telkitty-logic I am unbannable because the word bannable has red squigglies under it.
 
What's for dinner? Red squigglies @nwp 2017
 
1:17 PM
English strikes again
 
> strokes
 
@nwp I'm tempted to ban you for a few minutes, just for the phrase "Telkitty-logic".
 
nwp
Well, I'm not the first to have noticed.
 
1:37 PM
@nwp Okay, I'll ban him for a minute as well (even though he's not around to notice). :-)
 
@nwp err, maybe kitty has just changed the avatar then said 'need to stop changing my avatar', but the avatar was cached for another 12 hours?
 
@nwp Back when spell checkers were a new thing, word processor companies (and such) were in heated competition to add more words to their dictionaries, and inventing new storage formats to squeeze an entire dictionary onto a single floppy disk (or in memory, if possible).
Meanwhile at Bell Labs, Andrew Koenig did some experiments, and found that the ideal size was actually pretty small--above a certain size, you allow words that are technically words, but still so rarely used that they're much more likely to be typos than not.
 
in a democratic world, anyone should be gang bannable by the crowd
 
@Telkitty If it were worldwide democracy, you'd have to get the majority of the world to agree on that first. Good luck getting anything done that way. We'd all die of old age before we got the majority of the people in the world to understand the question.
 
gang bannable != gang banned
it's a possibility vs probability thing, you should understand
 
user1804599
1:48 PM
@Rapptz Yeah, it's like, const True.
 
user1804599
All programs are well-typed in Python's type system.
 
my sock was soaked in blood because of my broken toe nail, I didn't even notice until I finished jogging
I wonder how much endorphin was released when jogging
 
Ell
2:09 PM
@BartekBanachewicz what more does it do than c++?
Wow I'm tired
I mean, what features does it have that std::string doesn't?
 
@Ell its main feature is that it is widely used in the company's code
 
@Telkitty All of it!
So I have forgotten to bring with me my sweater to work. I have been feeling cold for last 7 hours. It is horrible.
This is what kids do to you. They distract you and then you forget to bring with you your sweater and you suffer.
 
don't blame on the kids >_<
you forgot to bring the sweater, not your kids :p
 
@Telkitty They distracted me!
 
2:24 PM
You'e weak :p
 
@Morwenn Against cold, yes. :(
 
@Ell probably nothing
 
@Ell It is @BartekBanachewicz killing language. That's more.
 
2:42 PM
Some other studio should do the Antz/A Bug's Life thing and release The Dingbats Movie at the same time.
3
 
possum came to steal chicken feed again ~_~
 
3:14 PM
I got cam all setup and possum is not coming any more :(
 
xD
 
low res cam and bad lighting ...
most you can get is shadow
Oo it moved into foreground
 
@Telkitty or a picture of a blinded possum
 
3:32 PM
I need to buy a high res remote rec cam
 
3:49 PM
@ratchetfreak ain't I so mean 😂
I also got a very good video with the lighting and the phone
will upload it in a few days
now the possum can enjoy food in peace
but my chicken might get scared
coz coop right next to food
will give chicken some comfort tomorrow
 
4:21 PM
dang
I need a waterproof motorcycle suit
or at least better pants
 
5:13 PM
New Study: Previous Research That Found That Video Games Make You Sexist Was Bogus https://heatst.com/gaming/new-study-previous-research-that-found-that-video-games-make-you-sexist-was-bogus/ @chsommers
^ I have not read it though.
 
> Dear {First Name},
 
6:08 PM
My testsuite now takes enouhg time to compile for me to take a nap.
 
6:19 PM
I'm surprised that I didn't notice sooner that my support of proxy reverse iterators has been broken forever.
 
-3
Q: encrypt/decrypt from C++ to php

Dotsquares DotsquaresI have some wav files, those I have to encrypt in c++ driver then PHP will decrypt wav files. Please provide me a encryption/decryption method will work in both language.

/cc @Mysticial
 
lol
 
6:39 PM
Hm, can I remap the eject button (⏏) in vim?
 
7:27 PM
@StackedCrooked lol, do you even have one such button?
 
yeah, mac us keyboard
Funny thing is that my iMac doesn't have a built-in CD drive.
 
@StackedCrooked What does it eject then? You from your chair? :)
 
I don't know. But when combined with Ctrl-Alt it will turn off the screen.
Which is handy since iMacs don't have a physical switch for the screen.
 
Ha, Skylake X instruction latencies have been published. And it looks like I correctly predicted that an instruction that everyone was excited about would be slow. And I predicted how slow it would be.
The relevant SO question:
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Q: Fastest way to multiply an array of int64_t?

Hélder GonçalvesI want to vectorize the multiplication of two memory aligned arrays. I didn't find any way to multiply 64*64 bit in AVX/AVX2, so I just did loop-unroll and AVX2 loads/stores. Is there a faster way to do this? Note: I don't want to save the high-half result of each multiplication. void multiply...

 
7:58 PM
it needs to be remotely interesting or relevant
a lack of homosexual relationships is probably just the simplest example of how it's completely redundant and useless in the modern age
 
@EtiennedeMartel That seems like overanalysis of something that is much simpler and retrofitting today's ideologies to something that does not have them in its inception.
 
1
A: How to remap eject key on MacBook keyboard to "delete"?

Movie SlateKarabiner (which replaced KeyRemap4MacBook) does provide a means to remap the Eject key. Just tested it with El Capitan GM, and it works fine.

 
user1804599
Ate some delicious ghoti today
 
@rightfold Is that a plural of goth?
 
user1804599
8:12 PM
No, it's an unofficial alternative spelling of "fish"
 
user1804599
gh as in enough; o as in women; and ti as in motion.
 
@rightfold There's nothing "official" about English.
 
@EtiennedeMartel To a degree, you could argue that, say, the English taught in schools is the official English. That what would not pass in English language class of such school would not be "official".
 
Ell
9:13 PM
@EtiennedeMartel what about the English word "official"?
 
@Ell Nicely done.
 
@wilx You can't really argue that, as those merely track (decades later) real usage.
 
9:59 PM
How do you call a person that went to prison for at least 10-15 years?
 
@LoïcFaure-Lacroix A criminal?
 
@wilx Technically criminal might not even go to prison in their lifetime so not the word/expression I'm looking for
 
@LoïcFaure-Lacroix A convict?
A felon?
Damn bastard!?
 
convict is someone that already left prison?
 
10:12 PM
@LoïcFaure-Lacroix No, AFAIK, convict is somebody who has been convicted of crime and is in prison.
 
Would be "someone that made time" be good?
 
@LoïcFaure-Lacroix Made time? That does not sound right.
 
or spent time
someone who spent time in prison
Ah I think it's to do time
 
@LoïcFaure-Lacroix Yeah, that sounds better.
 
It's sad when your mother in law's boyfriend is someone that did time in prison and turn out to be a complete dick
 
10:26 PM
@LoïcFaure-Lacroix You usually do not go to prison for being a saint...usually. :)
OTOH, maybe the dick part that is him is what she liked about him.
 
Not sure he seems more or less normal in the first few months...
 
@wilx ...or no longer in prison. Basically, from the point that the court says "guilty" until they die, they're a "convict" (unless later evidence exonerates them, or something like that).
 
He's getting completely crazy because I prevent him from throwing stuff I want to use to make a bed and table for our house
So technically convict is right
 
@JerryCoffin I thought those out of prison were ex-convicts, or excons.
 
@wilx Hmm...now that you mention it, that phrase is certainly used as well.
 
10:32 PM
It's kind of confusing
I'd believe an ex-convict is someone that has been exonerated
 
@LoïcFaure-Lacroix Doing a quick look, Google says: "a person found guilty of a criminal offense and serving a sentence of imprisonment", so that's pretty much saying Wilx was exactly right, and I was just wrong.
I'd never considered it, but they also point out that "convict" and "convince" both stem from the same Latin root.
 
10:54 PM
It's interesting
Convince in French in Convaincre.. Vaincre is Victory in English and there you have Convict
Yet if the english suffix vict is for victory it's kind of weird to see it in the same meaning as a person that was found guilty for a crime
Ah right, it makes sense, it seems it more about proving that someone is guilty which is a victory in some ways
 
11:39 PM
lol
I like the video and the music though.
Oh, I finally figured out why my terminal kept telling me "You have new mail".
It was due to failed cron jobs.
TIL about the mail program.
 
11:59 PM
I still find it fascinating how broken are the microdata/metadata on web everywhere. E.g., this site/page: Versailles secret et insolite: Almouggar.com: Nicolas Jacquet: Livres
 

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