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12:01 AM
It's just popularizing science in the age of people with short attention spans. So, you're the target audience
It's always annoying that the pop science tends to go overboard and end up saying bullshit
 
bear attack ...
 
 
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1:34 AM
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2:01 AM
@fredoverflow why is that guy making a "programming talk" while walking outside
 
2:25 AM
If sometimes need to clean the headphone jack of my phone. I use a post-it note and roll it into a narrow cylinder with the sticky side on the outside. Then I just insert it in the headphone jack and pull it out. Usually there's a big ball of dust attached to it. However, ...
Should I worry about glue residue sticking to the insides of the jack?
@sehe lol
 
@StackedCrooked I would
 
So do I.
But haven't really found a good alternative dust-removing method.
Now, if someone invented conductive glue then my problem is fixed.
Hm, actually that might make it worse.
Never mind that.
 
I usually wearing headphone while doing my daily jogging so they break down quite fast, much faster than be able to accumulate enough dirt to prevent sound from going through
 
2:48 AM
anyone else feels like having fries right now?
 
 
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4:06 AM
can't find a software to help me to draw a random triangle that doesn't have a right angle
 
5:00 AM
No, wait, come back! I want to be friends at you!
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5:11 AM
@Feeds First, locate an existing friend, then place yourself around them while they are located in population density local maxima.
 
6:09 AM
Hi there, Is there anyone in here good at Fortran? I have simple code about matrix multiplication and I need someone to run it and provide me with the values so I can covert it to C++.
 
why don't you try the fortran room instead, start pinging people away there perhaps if you are desperate
 
 
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8:58 AM
@milleniumbug Making the best of his commute time to and from work? That would explain why he uploads 2 videos a day...
@Ven His voice has a calming effect on me.
 
9:31 AM
@milleniumbug how do you boot strap this process though?
@JennaSloan your point?
 
@thecoshman That's a part I haven't figured out yet
 
nwp
@thecoshman You inherit them from when you were young. If you didn't you just got unlucky.
 
@thecoshman Idea #1: choose a person at random, then place yourself near them until they want to be friends with you
 
9:47 AM
How can C++ programmers be unable to make friends, C++ even has a friend keyword!
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Hey, you remind me that I'm playing MTG with a friend tonight :D
 
10:05 AM
@fredoverflow but if the programmer only uses private methods ...
 
@fredoverflow other people don't quite agree that it's better encapsulation to share tour privates with friends
 
10:24 AM
> We discuss and extend previous videogame literature on intelligence and videogames and suggest that commercial video games can be useful as ’proxy’ tests of cognitive performance at a global population level.
More teens are anonymously bullying themselves online. https://usat.ly/2zwlVYS
 
10:53 AM
hy
hey
 
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@wilx Did not see that coming. Though it is the logical continuation of self-harm, I guess. So we should have :/
It's in the same kind of box as Münchhausen syndrome
 
@fredoverflow If there's anything I've learned from my classes it's to always kill your zombie children, beware of exploding zombie children, friends can always touch your privates, and your protected members all get passed down to your children, and that programmer love objectification. Beware SJWs
 
@sehe As somebody has already written somewhere, this is the result of age where victimhood is a currency.
 
@wilx what is "fluid intelligence"
 
@sehe HI !
 
10:55 AM
@wilx Thanks for bestowing that beautiful fact upon me.
 
@sehe One part of general intelligence measure, I believe.
 
I've never heard the word before
 
@sehe Me neither, I had too look it up.
 
In psychology, fluid and crystallized intelligence (respectively abbreviated Gf and Gc) are factors of general intelligence, originally identified by Raymond Cattell. Concepts of fluid and crystallized intelligence were further developed by Cattell's student, John L. Horn. Fluid intelligence or fluid reasoning is the capacity to reason and solve novel problems, independent of any knowledge from the past. It is the ability to analyze novel problems, identify patterns and relationships that underpin these problems and the extrapolation of these using logic. It is necessary for all logical problem...
Fluid = novel problem solving and learning, Crystallized deals with using skills you already have
It's actually quite interesting. MOBAs have a very complex playing pattern that requires mindfulness, IMO, so hearing fluid intelligence is used more with MOBAs means a lot to me
 
@wilx Interesting. I guess my crystallized intelligence is significantly higher than my fluid intelligence. And that distinction does make the study interesting.
However, it seems to me that "reading [[science] fiction|fantasy]" achieves much the same goal
 
11:00 AM
Wow, their pvalues are quite solid
It's <0.001
 
@VermillionAzure Small N though.
 
@VermillionAzure but what about selection bias
 
@wilx Isn't N=10000 quite big? We don't see numbers like that in cancer studies often I think, at least from what I read when I was in that kind of lab
 
Confusion.
@VermillionAzure Which study are you talking about?
 
11:03 AM
@VermillionAzure The "MO" part seems to disturb the observations, though. It might not be the "smart" individuals that actually generate the novel strategies. It might be the non-conformists that stumble upon new tactics that happen to work really well within the artificial set of constraints that the game represents - or simply tactics that are effectively defeat the opponent's defense
 
the inversion of control worked /o/
 
@VermillionAzure how do you compare cancer treatment results with aptitude measurements
 
@VermillionAzure I did not get far, study 1 just mentions Participants. Participants (N = 56, 51 males, mean age 20.5 years)
 
so much scalpel in the code though
 
@Morwenn cool. Now your call graph analysis is forever crippled?
 
11:04 AM
@sehe The sample set that you pull data from for cancer studies is often not as large as 10000 like as in the LoL sample set used here
 
@Morwenn scalpel? shrapnel?
 
@wilx Page 5 has a table
 
@sehe it was already, now we can write crippled code faster
 
@wilx OHHHHHHHHHH
Study 1 has a really low sample set I see
I see now. Sorry I thought Table 1 was for both
 
@VermillionAzure N is always in the 50 (55, 56)
@Morwenn "Toppling Of Control"
 
11:07 AM
Anyways
Shaka Scheme is coming to a close for this semester, I guess... We'll have the macro expander ready, hopefully
I feel like something's wrong
 
 
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1:13 PM
hi
 
What's up? It's quite late here
European?
 
Mmm I see
Then, in that case, it's probably evening?
9:00p?
 
that's right
 
1:20 PM
how is it over there?
 
hot and humid
 
that reminds me of
 
@BartekBanachewicz honey can you do me a favour pls
 
1:49 PM
Oh look! I've found a sure-fire way to get supporters on Twitter
Just tweet something mildly critical of C++ and Rust afficionados come swirling :)
Has anyone else encountered the problem that SE Chat Modifications stopped working (in Chrome)?
It still works in Firefox, just checked
 
nwp
2:12 PM
Today I had a thought that the question of which programming language to use is similar to the question of which country to live in. While the questions are meaningful and the answers have significant consequences the best answer to both is most likely "stick with whatever you are most familiar with".
 
@sehe I've stopped using SE Chat enough to care that I no longer have it installed
 
@nwp Well. I'm familiar with multiple languages. Intimately
 
> Any plans for String CaseInsensitive comparetions?
 
@nwp you also, in both cases, have the option of creating your own, but it's really hard to get others to accept it as a real thing
@sehe giggidy
 
Nothing funny intended.
I can stick with C# exactly as well as I can stick with C++
Big difference in practice (also, big overlap in many respects I know)
 
2:16 PM
different languages with different targets
 
Imo the hard thing about programming is not the language, it's the thinking about problems in the right way
 
@thecoshman assuming there's a right way :p
 
and different problems require different approaches
 
@Morwenn there sort of is... but it's more of a very generic description of how to think...
@ratchetfreak think more generically, then you'll see it's the same approach to all problems :P
 
data in->transform -> data out?
 
2:19 PM
you're presumptions are leaking :P
ergh...
your, not you're ¬_¬
stupid me
 
I know it's a bit overly simplistic especially once you need to take into account of how the transformation needs to happen
 
nwp
2:34 PM
This should be the default program. Any other program structure is just a complication.
(Except you can't read white spaces, so it doesn't even work theoretically. I think.)
 
> Goal is a type "text" that's better than a string. It's UTF8 encoded. Texts can produce text_views. This is not targetting any standard yet; we'd like to get it into Boost first.
 
nwp
std::document
 
@Morwenn now if only the kernel interface everywhere could accept utf8 with no problems...
 
> hopefully people will move towards Unicode gradually (e.g. over the next 50 years)
 
@thecoshman nah, there being objectively bad ways doesn't mean there are silver bullets
 
2:49 PM
looks like the unicode and text processing room are kin to have char8_t for UTF-8 in the end
 
@sehe who said silver bullets?
 
nwp
van hellsing
 
nwp
3:14 PM
Graphs are fun, especially when visualized.
I hope that will save me when I inevitably screw up in the logic somewhere.
 
3:52 PM
What are you building?
@Morwenn keen*?
@thecoshman "the right way" implies it. The use of the definite article implies there not being more than one right way
 
nwp
@sehe Some unholy mix of DFA, generalzed KMP and regex matcher so I can do syntax highlighting (first mention complaint).
 
C++ is a thing of beauty and elegance. Not sure what you mean. — Ron 11 secs ago
 
@nwp why would you need the 'dependency chain' for syntax highlighting? That's a ... solved lexical task if you ask me. (Only thing required is "reparse points" or "synchronization points" if you wish to deal with incomplete code/syntax error)
@Borgleader He edited
 
nwp
I'm not sure what you mean by dependency chain. I need to be able to save and reload state. None of the code I looked at had that.
 
@sehe probably
 
4:08 PM
@sehe you presume though that the right way is precise enough to be treated as a silver bullet. I'm being deliberately vague, almost to the point of not say much more than the right way to think is 'analytically'
 
@nwp What does the graph depict? Why do you need to load and save "state" (what state?) That's certainly not required for syntax highlighting - which explains none of the code you looked at had it, even though a gazillion tools implement syntax highlighting.
 
I believe he was going line per line so multi-line stuff (raw string and block comments) needs state preserved for the next line
 
@ArkadiuszKoćma sure
what is it
 
though it's really more a sign that going line per line is a bad idea
 
4:23 PM
@ratchetfreak ah, incremental parsing. Just coro it :)
 
5:23 PM
@Morwenn "flexibly" -- be flexible in how you approach problems, because there is no one right way to solve all of them.
@ratchetfreak If what he's highlighting is C or C++, there's little choice but to do line-by-line analysis for an initial phase (the part that deals with pre-processor "stuff"). After that you're right though: a new-line is just one more white-space character, just about like any other (with one possible exception: depending on how you look at things, an escaped new-line may not be a preprocesor thing, and if you treat it as "not", then you also have to handle line-splicing from escaped new-lines).
 
 
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10:34 PM
o_0 I regret waiting so long to restart FF for this update
 
10:58 PM
why?
 
11:16 PM
@nwp Syntax highlighting is pretty trivial
 
11:28 PM
@Puppy 57 really is a damn site more performant than before, plus I can finally have the refresh button over on the left where I like it
 
11:58 PM
it was always on the left for me
 

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