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Ven
12:14 PM
@Puppy did you watch proleague?
it was maru vs zest just now
 
no
 
Ven
that last game was insane
 
can't load the steam
 
Ven
well, it's over now
 
 
12:22 PM
Haha. "for users who does not have Boost Quadrature library" - you mean, everyone. You really think it wasn't important to mention your libs in the first place? — sehe 8 secs ago
@Mgetz context? Kung Fu Panda meets Star Wars?
@Ven aaaaaand twote
 
Has anyone faced with problem of Ubuntu UI - it randomly stops responding to the mouse clicks.
 
just concept art that was cool, star wars meets japan
 
> Ubuntu UI
What is that
 
@sehe whatever. those who have faced with this problem understand what I mean :P
gonna do a clean installation since I'm unable to figure out the problem. fuck
 
@ProblemSlover Right. What religion are you in?
 
Ven
12:32 PM
@sehe sounds like a lounger alright
 
What do you mean :)
 
@sehe the religion is Eat sleep and Lounge<C++>
 
Well. You can't really claim the latter obviously. You're grenner than grass here and I doubt many people appreciate your contributions until now (although they seem to normalize a little lately).
Here's a hint: UI depends on what processes run. Try to eliminate which it is. Only in the rarest of cases it doesn't matter and that's when it's a driver/boot issue
 
Ven
@sehe pedantic asshole :P
 
@Ven D:
 
12:35 PM
You should find a mirror!!! (etc. etc. blablabla)
 
Ven
whoever pretended I wasn't an ass?
 
At times like this I somewhat miss Jalfs and LRiOs. The point is, it takes practice and continued exposure to be able to mimick these habitual fights
 
Ven
who's Jalf?
 
@sehe of course I have tried it. and reed bunch of mail lists and bug reports. no clue at all
 
I miss jalf but definitely not lrio
 
12:38 PM
"of course" - that was not apparent when you asked your question in the silly way you did
 
off to sleep after 25 km walk.. bb
 
@Puppy I don't actually miss their typical interactions at all
 
@sehe ........
 
@Puppy was jalf or abyx who was the annoying one?
 
abyx
but as far as I know abyx still turns up from time to time
 
12:40 PM
@Borgleader abyx would try to stir up trouble (like wilx he has his themes); jalf would only go ballistic if provoked (but once over the thresholds, the brakes were gone)
 
Ven
@sehe got any example from the transcript?
I'm a latecomer
 
@Ven Just tally up "retarded" or "fallacious" etc. in the search box
There's a nice weekend hack: rate users for belligerent language based on their combined chat corpus
 
Ven
habit corpus
 
habeas, shirley
Plan https://t.co/1g8O5nQ3eg
That's my kind of plan. Groovy
 
Back from the pub.
 
12:50 PM
All nighter?
 
I hope so
 
Ven
@Morwenn well met!
 
@Ven greetings traveler
 
@StackedCrooked No, I just crashed at a friend's and spent the night there. Then before coming home I went to my grand-mother's where I also saw one of my uncles and spent some time discussing with my father and his girlfriend.
 
> If a DMCA takedown is kicking puppies, doing it to “stifle criticism” is like single-handedly causing the extinction of puppies, kittens, and the constitution.
 
12:57 PM
I'm finally back in the real world.
 
user3790646
@sehe Any tips on how to indentify which client is which with Boost.Asio?
 
@BartekBanachewicz reap awst
@AndreyErick remote_endpoint().address() or so?
 
that was some quality troll though
 
@AndreyErick Usually, though, you bind some kind of session/connection state and run all asynch operations in that context, so you never have to wonder
 
user3790646
12:58 PM
@sehe Oh, okay.
 
user3790646
@sehe I see. Okay, I think I understood it, thanks :D
 
> This is unbearable.
:)
 
@BartekBanachewicz let the gaems begin
@sehe Our constitution is unwritten so it can't really be erased
 
Ven
Dec 21 '14 at 18:55, by rightføld
I should write a video game in APL.
 
Now that I have to work with GDAL at work, I just want to write a clean C++14 wrapper using a unit library.
 
user3790646
1:20 PM
@Morwenn You're in a job? That's good, Morwenn! :D
 
Ven
you wouldn't pat a morwenn
you wouldn't download a standard
 
@AndreyErick Getting a job is not a problem. Getting a cool one is .___.
 
user3790646
@Morwenn Oh, what are you developing?
 
A GIS dedicated to specific tasks.
 
user3790646
That's pretty cool in my opinion! You'll get to like it, don't quit :)
 
nwp
1:24 PM
@ProblemSlover inb4 wireless mouse ran low on battery
 
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user3790646
@sehe Lol
 
var bitset = 0
for (specifier in this) {
    val bitmask = 1.shl(specifier.kind().toInt())
    if (bitset.and(bitmask) != 0) {
        specifier.root().error("duplicate declaration specifier")
    }
    bitset = bitset.or(bitmask)
}
val storageClassSpecifiers = bitset.and(0x09081002)
val typeSpecifiers = bitset.and(0x72662a10)
val typeQualifiers = bitset.and(0x80000020.toInt())
@rightfold Isn't bit-twiddling awesome? :)
 
@sehe Please tell me this is real
 
It probably is. I dunno medium.com/@tristanharris/…
 
Ven
1:32 PM
@sehe wow yet more crap about how technology is making us stay at home and focus on our comps/phones
 
well. There's no objective truth here. But statistics allows us to observe things, at the very least
 
Ven
2060: The gregarious superintelligent AI, happily talking its way out of a box, is fast becoming a relic of the past. Today's quantum hyper-beings are too busy with their internal multiverse sims to even notice that they're in boxes at all!
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error: no internet found!
also, internet is great for dumb people, they can say whatever they want to say without speak out aloud - just need a keyboard to type the message
 
message 30685612 authenticated
 
I spend more time with you guys than all my friends combined!
@sehe warning, message altered, original message lost!
 
1:39 PM
lies
 
1:54 PM
@sehe I wish I didn't recognize so much of that shit.
especially that digital cancellation one
 
2:21 PM
He runs toward the exit
 
I have an idea for premise of epic sci-fi: Travel between words in slower than light speed in some sort of subspace, where the travel would seem instantaneous for those who were travelling but they would actually vanish from this space and would appear at their destination long after light would take to travel there.
Basically slower than light instantaneous transport, if it makes any sense. :D
 
nwp
yeah, teleporting is not forbidden by the relativity theory, we just don't know how to do it
you need to be a bit careful about changing your potential energy
Why does messing with C++ require dealing with C? Is there a C++ wrapper for libclang that I'm just not finding?
guess I was just not finding it
 
2:40 PM
you know that libclang is literally just a C wrapper on the C++ libraries, right?
pretty pointless to have a C++ wrapper on a C wrapper on a C++ library.
 
nwp
no, I don't know that. How can I get access to the C++ libraries?
 
... just download and build Clang?
 
nwp
so basically extract the C++ stuff out of the source code... gonna take years
 
if by that you mean that the whole source code is in C++, then yes.
I'm sure it takes years to unzip the archive
 
nwp
The goal is to write a tool that turns auto into the deduced type and back. I want to use clang as a library, but the library side of clang seems to be C only. And changing the clang sourcecode to make my tool doesn't seem feasable.
maybe there is a libclang++ I'm missing
 
2:48 PM
you don't need to change the Clang source code, just use it as a library.
 
Ven
^
 
you know, like what libclang does to turn it into a C library.
 
Ven
If you want to use a C++ lib from C++, you don't need a wrapper is what @Puppy means
 
except without the C part.
 
nwp
3:00 PM
ok I think I found it
thanks for keeping me from being (more) stupid
 
3:29 PM
hey, can anyone take a look at this question please: stackoverflow.com/q/37362080/140937 ?
 
yeah no problem
I found a downvote button; is that what you wanted me to see?
 
lol
sorry, is that not allowed?
no need to downvote for no reason :)
 
"Do you want to replace this version with the factory version?" No. "Do you want to replace this version with the factory version?" No. "Do you want to replace this version with the factory version?" NO.
Holy shit I just want this thing off my PHONE.
 
it's a pity that you're a questiondumper
 
nwp
@AlonGubkin put a bounty on it
 
3:32 PM
your question is actually very slightly interesting
maybe if you bounty it with 500 rep I'll tell you the answer
 
The last thing I want to see in this chat is someone who comes here just to dump the question
 
okay okay sorry lol
don't be so aggressive
:)
and I will put a bounty as soon as I can (2 days)
 
less aggression leads to more questiondumping
 
I just wrote a first article for that small project about Gray codes I was talking about the other day.
 
btw Puppy, I can't believe that you said something like "this question is slightly interesting" after you downvoted it for no reason
 
3:35 PM
I didn't downvote it for no reason, I downvoted it because you're a questiondumper
 
He downvoted it for drive-by dumping
 
actually I downvoted the answer too.
 
"Be honest"
 
nwp
@Morwenn Let \( \mathbb{G} \) be the set of Gray code ... <- is that supposed to look like it?
 
you're making an unfortunate assumption that the rules of stackoverflow.com are the same as the rules for chat.stackoverflow.com
except that they're plainly not
 
3:36 PM
@nwp Eh, normally everything is rendered with MathJax. It looks fine on my browser.
 
Also pup has a yellow name
 
as far as I know, the "downvote" functionallity is part of stackoverflow.com, not chat.stackoverflow.com
 
do not dispute yellownameman
 
just undownvote it please
 
Done, naaaaaaat
 
3:37 PM
no.
 
@Puppy tbf, your downvote is on SO proper so those rules apply there, according to your argument it was grounds to kick him from the channel. imo.
 
you fucking deserve it for disputing
 
oh yeah I forgot that I could do that too
@Borgleader Yeah, but you can't downvote people on chat or punish them in any useful way, so there's not really much choice here.
 
yeah exactly, you should've kicked me from the channel instead of downvoting the question because the rules for chat.stackoverflow are different from stackoverflow, as you said
 
you kick (repeatedly if neeed) then a mod shows up
thats the whole point of that feature
 
3:40 PM
that.. is not a useful punishment.
 
nwp
@Morwenn well, doesn't work on firefox on debian, and I didn't turn off java script or anything like that and AdBlock didn't do it either
 
it merely temporarily removes the offender, instead of teaching them not to offend again.
 
downvoting his question neither, it just makes you feel better
 
nah
kicking him makes me feel better
downvoting him makes him feel worse
 
@nwp Eh, now that's strange.
 
3:41 PM
@Morwenn Works for me on FF
 
nwp
doesn't work on chromium either
 
@набиячлэвэлиь Fine then. I guess there isn't much more I can do anyway.
 
works for me on FF on Windoze
 
oops. never mind
 
nwp
3:42 PM
:30686947 press F5, autoscroll breaks if you click "load older messages" or something
 
@nwp ophh. It works. Thank you man!
 
@Puppy does it? because the only noticeable pattern ive noticed is this shit ending up on meta and us getting babysat by mods for being assholes, whereas at least kicking for breaking the rooms rules is ISTR "the things were supposed to be doing"
 
well judging by the way he complained I think it made him feel worse
 
anyway idk why i even bother you got un-ownered at leeast once and that didnt change shit, its not like anything i say will either
 
I have places to be at this time too
 
3:45 PM
It did make me feel bad, but not because of the downvotes. But because I didn't read the rules for this chat and just dumped a question here
 
nwp
@Morwenn there is probably some logic in here
 
@nwp byw. just figured out that problem with mouse occurs whenever vmware instance is being run
damn :(
 
downvote -> "your question is slightly interesting". wtf? this community is broken
 
It's: downvote, "your question is slightly interesting"
 
what a joke. but it's coming soon
 
nwp
3:52 PM
@AlonGubkin you know that's not what happened. What happened is "Didn't read chat rules and was a help vampire" -> downvote -> "too bad, the question was actually slightly interesting but you deserve it anyways".
 
@nwp do you agree that the correct punishment would be a kick from the channel?
 
@AlonGubkin feel free to post your complain on meta
 
nwp
@AlonGubkin no. saying "Dumping questions in here is not cool" seems appropriate to me
 
@nwp exactly. instead he just downvoted the question. that's really inappropriate, and you're saying he's a mod here?
 
No, mods have blue names
 
nwp
3:55 PM
some people are more jaded than others and it is not like the downvote matters. I thought mods have a diamond, but I don't really know.
 
@AlonGubkin room owner, not mod
 
yeah
 
@nwp on SOChat mods have blue names
 
anyway, it's really disappointing.
 
3:57 PM
@набиячлэвэлиь can you stop piling on
 
Hope this room will not have the same destiny as C# lol
 
@набиячлэвэлиь I have blue balls!
 
oops. that group has beencleaned and revied
 
nwp
I wonder if you can change your name to add a diamond or a diamond-looking thing to it
 
4:02 PM
You can only have letters and spaces in your name but maybe
 
4:16 PM
@Puppy Supposedly the C wrapper has stable API
/cc @nwp
 
nwp
yeah, I read that
being specific to clang-3.8 seems less bad than having to deal with void* everywhere and not having access to all the functionality
 
sure, that's a trade-off
 
4:54 PM
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nwp
we should make the feed reader thingy dump one of these once a day
 
@fredoverflow Fucking hell. Imagine the reverse!
 
@Khaled.K I don't get it.
 
@fredoverflow Each of the parts has unit test passing but the Titanic is still sinking. :)
 
5:08 PM
The Titanic crashed due to ICE ;)
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@fredoverflow I didn't realize they even had In-Circuit Emulators way back then.
 
You shouldn't post your code as an image - please post it as text right here! — BatCoder 2 mins ago
lol
 
nwp
@wilx I almost feel like typing it all up, fixing it, taking a screenshot and posting it as an answer
 
@fredoverflow That's fucking hilarious
 
@nwp You are either too bored or too good a person for this place. :)
@fredoverflow Oh, in a video that is linked, I think he says it was a social experiment of his...
 
5:21 PM
@wilx So he renounced sex for science? That guy is super hardcore.
 
5:47 PM
@fredoverflow Broken people, eh.
 
Yup.
Psychos everywhere. And not the good kind.
 
Ven
what's an example of the good kind of psycho?
 
@fredoverflow o.O
 
@Ven You :3
 
Ven
@Morwenn uhm, thanks, but why/how do I qualify as a psycho? :o
 
5:52 PM
@Ven Because only a psycho can read that many commits, duh ._.
 
Ven
and only a psycho would write C++ to start with. fair.
 
Yeah, that too.
 
6:20 PM
I'm not a psycho
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Ven
@Puppy how cute
 
hmm
I can't really express why, but KSP 1.1 looks super sweet even in the fuckin' menu
 
When you want to buy a CD and it's not sold anymore ç___ç
 
I bought a CD recently even though I don't have a player anymore.
 
Why?
 
I forgot.
 
6:49 PM
Oh :/
 
Actually, I still have my old imac which has been sitting in the corner of my room for the last 2 years. That one has a cd drive.
I should use this machine for something.
 
@StackedCrooked you know it omits it when optimizing so just link in a dummy definition in case of debug
 
@doug65536 Yeah. But when using GCC I don't know if I can detect -O0 with a macro or something.
 
why bother? you already know it elides it since it links on release
unless I missed something
 
I thought std::array<T, 0> was legal
 
6:51 PM
It's safer to have it not defined so I at least get a linker error instead of runtime crash.
 
if it doesnt break when linking release (without a definition), it won't even include it in the link if it is defined
 
@Puppy The problem was that I did not provide a definition for the static.
 
I meant why bother with the static in the first place
 
The object size must be zero.
 
@Puppy that's a good question
 
6:52 PM
The header objects are used to construct network packets.
 
Yesterday at work I deleted 5 lines of code patched twice by a mere call to os.path.dirname that did exactly the same thing.
 
@wilx Oh, cool.
 
Anyone up for a bit of hip-hop? :p
 
@Morwenn Hiphop sucks.
 
7:02 PM
Wut.
Some bands are great, and I'm not even that much into hip-hop.
 
Ell
@StackedCrooked how come you need static?
oh wait
stuff must be at least size 1 right
 
Ell
eh actually
 
But that jazzy/experimental/ambient/cinematic sound is just too good *-*
 
And that would offset the IP header.
 
Ell
7:04 PM
yeah
 
And everything would crash.
Actually, it would generate validation error. Because the version field is not 4.
I once had a bug where packets that were being processed were also reused by another thread for receiving new network data. So the data was being overwritten by that thread while being parsed by another thread. Now, the packet data was mostly identical. So it only triggered bugs sometimes.
Weird stuff happened.
Like occasional checksum errors. Validation failures of header length. It even caused an infinite loop in a header-option parsing routine. Meanwhile many other packets got only overwritten partially, in the parts that were identical.
 
@Morwenn meh, I prefer early Em tbh
 
@набиячлэвэлиь Em?
 
@Morwenn Marshall Mathers a.k.a. Eminem
 
Oh. Well, that's pretty much not the same thing at all x)
 
7:11 PM
Never said it was
 
7:26 PM
white and nerdy best rap
 
Is Kotlin language worth noting or is it just yet another JVM language?
 
@Puppy thanks for making me what it again :)
 
@wilx ask @fredoverflow
 
@wilx Kotlin is Java without the boilerplate and some FP thrown in, but nothing fancy.
 
Party again tonight. Wooh.
 
It's exactly what you need to get shit done.
 
nah, you need Scala
 
@Ven Besides looking much nicer, does that help with performance?
 
@StackedCrooked I prefer Tacky
 
Ven
7:35 PM
@Nican all modern compilers know how to optimize ifdef guards to pragma once
 
@набиячлэвэлиь I switched from Scala to Kotlin because Scala tooling is pure shit.
 
Oh-
 
@набиячлэвэлиь Nah, he needs Jesus.
 
@Puppy That's a good one.
 
@Morwenn what is jesus meme
 
7:35 PM
@набиячлэвэлиь Jesus saves; everybody else takes 2d6 damage
 
@StackedCrooked I love Amish Paradise. :D
 
Seriously, I'm impressed there's no esolang called Jesus yet.
 
Messiah class feature: always pass every saving throw
 
7:36 PM
@Puppy lol
 
See y'all another day :)
 
Toooodles.
 
Party in the CIA is pretty good too
 
noodles
 
@Ell @Bartek have you peeps checked the new Arduino with BT, WiFi, NFC, and infrared built-in?
 
7:55 PM
Is Groovy dead now or is it still maintained?
 
It's shit, so nobody cares
 
Is Io dead? It was hyped at one point.
 
pretty sure most programs need to perform I/O
 
Ell
@R.MartinhoFernandes I haven't but I'll take a look now
 
has anyone here used Mono on Linux? kinda curious about what that's like
 
8:12 PM
@wilx Why are you asking about JVM languages?
 
Ell
@Puppy I've never written stuff with it
 
@Puppy It's good enough for running console programs, but there's no WPF for Linux, so GUI is lacking (WinForms or Gtk#). There's MonoDevelop as IDE, but it's inferior to VS.
 
ok
 
Ell
But I've inadvertently used programs using it :P
I don't think gtk# is lacking
 
Not every library may support Mono, and I'm not aware of any NuGet equivalent so there
 
8:13 PM
@milleniumbug I think that WPF is shite though so meh ;p
 
Good for you, it's not a problem then
 
Ell
I didn't realise nuget was a thing still
 
yep
 
I must say that I have never heard of any argument that climate change has any disproportionate effect on women.
 
8:18 PM
> >Do Liberal Machine Pistols have a bet [...]
 
so true
 
@набиячлэвэлиь Machine Pistols? :D
 
yes, apparently?
 
Ell
@R.MartinhoFernandes I can't find it :S what is it called?
 
@Ell This thing?
(Google "new arduino" -> Click on "News" -> first link, for me anyway)
 
8:25 PM
:+1: proper Google hygiene
 
Ell
oh. I went to arduino.cc and looked on the product page & blog
 
I'm not believing it until it exists on the official Arfuino page
 
@Ell Primo, I think, but it's not on sale yet.
 
Ell
I looked for Primo and only found this: store.arduino.cc/product/AH00003 but like you said it's not on sale
I guess it will be on the site after the maker fayre
 
@Puppy used it only for library development with vim and make.
Was fine.
I ended up finding and fixing some compiler bugs.
 
8:35 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes What would be the main difference between that new arduino and say the latest RPi? I mean, if I was to choose between the two. Connectivity wise they seem to be about the same.
well maybe not infrared
 
One runs on OS on a "real" microprocessor
 
@Ell I only saw an announcement from Nordic (which seems official enough and not just rumours)
 
(its probably a silly question, i just dont have much exp with arduino things)
 
The second one is a bare microprocessor
 
Nordic makes the comm stuffs.
@Borgleader hard to say without specs.
 
Ell
8:37 PM
@Borgleader rpi zero is probably not in stock
@R.MartinhoFernandes you have made your own arduino before right? well a breadboard with an atmel processor on it
I was wondering
 
@Ell i thought latest was Rpi3?
 
@Borgleader but the RPi is meant to run an OS while in the Arduino you usually run bare metal.
 
Ell
why don't they use an atmega8u2 or some other atmega with on board usb, instead of having an atmega8u2 + another processor?
 
Arduinos are simpler.
 
Ell
@Borgleader ah yeah ofc
 
8:39 PM
@Ell I made a bunch.
 
Ell
What did you use for USB? or did you buy a programmer for it?
 
user1804599
I'm so happy
 
Made one with a ZIF for flashing bootlpaders on the atmegas
 
that makes me happy
 
Actually soldered
Probably still have one in some breadboard somehwere.
 
Ell
8:40 PM
oh cool
Did you ever consider using a processor with on board usb?
 
The Uno is easy to assemble with cheap and easy to find components.
@Ell i use a bluetooth programmer
Goes on the programming slot.
Forgot the name.
 
Ell
oh okay
that's good
I need usb for my project anyway, it was just a curiosity :3
 
nwp
8:57 PM
how come I never had that issue before?
C++ is an infinite rabbit hole...
 
const char* const*
but I'd rather use std::vector<std::string> or std::vector<boost::string_ref>
 

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