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@MarkGarcia hahaha
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wearing a CDC suit on my bike when I go to work
also uh
now I'm confused
I thought EGR valves recirculate just the exhaust gasses
@fredoverflow I bet it's not as funny
but apparently the crankshaft gases escape through to the EGR as well
08:03
@BartekBanachewicz cc you boob, not cm
it's ccm actually
so both subsets are equally wrong or right
well yes, the second c stands for cm
but it's never listed as ccm
sometimes is here
w/e
vOv people doing it wrong doesn't make it right :P
I've found that my engine has exhaust recirculation
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08:05
cm^3
it's the same as with boobs (implants), they are measured in cc
@R.MartinhoFernandes were you serious about selling of your old screens?
@BartekBanachewicz get down before you break it.
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boobs are measured in number of cars crashed due to distracted drivers
yeah, cc vOv
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hahaha :D
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awesome
08:08
lol
I'm thinking of adding LuaJIT to our market access engines
probably not worth the effort
@BartekBanachewicz I'm back live again. With audio I think
@buttifulbuttefly Just do IT
08:10
@sehe yeah
there's a hiss
and keystrokes
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@MarkGarcia no, don't do IT.
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IT is terrible.
@rightfold and clown-like.
@thecoshman Well, it's all I had as a German kid.
@sehe crappy mic/software mic boost
08:11
@buttifulbuttefly nothing erlse is
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dat pun
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> boost
@sehe Offline for me. :(
@BartekBanachewicz that's so you know he's typing
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@fredoverflow you never were a German kid
08:12
it went dead silent now
@fredoverflow o_0 now that's a harsh upbringing, not even food.
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> When she asks me for something fancy I put a bow tie on my dick
@rightfold So distingué
yeah no sound at all now @sehe
oh well.
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> A 'dangerous terrorist' accomplice of the Tunisian massacre monster Seifeddine Rezgui is trying to smuggle himself to Europe, his family revealed last night.
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08:15
R.I.P. us all.
@rightfold BRB, just checkin' my spoons in the kitchen
Lol you have to boot in Legacy mode to install windows on a partition with a bootloader (or something the like)
there we go
@sehe now it's ok
I think that it might require stream restart (on the client part)
@BartekBanachewicz Yeah with a hack
you can't do audio on linux w/o hacks :P
42 secs ago, by Bartek Banachewicz
I think that it might require stream restart (on the client part)
08:19
@BartekBanachewicz I'd rather not restart the stream all the time. Connections will drop and I get a load of fragment recordings. Livecoding.tv doesn't have good UI to manage those :(
@sehe what you using on your machine to stream?
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lol
your chat didn't refresh my message
@BartekBanachewicz ah
Glitch in the matrix
jabbascript
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08:20
// in C if you declare both of these:
int f(int (*)(), double (*)[3]);
int f(int (*)(char *), double (*)[]);
// then f's type is this:
int f(int (*)(char *), double (*)[3]);
the screen is getting stuck all the time on irrelevant parts as well
share one physical screen and keep what you want to show on it
otherwise it becomes way too annoying
also if you have a GeForce GPU you might want to check out shadowplay
because this livestream thing looks plainly broken
Oh wait, do we get to hear @sehe receive a plink?
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no
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my computer has neither audio nor flash
@rightfold I won't allow redeclarations in my IDE.
user1804599
08:25
Why not?
better
that sounded like a big motorbike
TIL sehe's got a pic of himself in his desktop. :D
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> Years Programming Experience: > 5 years
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lol so specific
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08:30
━━━━(゚∀゚)━━━━
@MarkGarcia I suppose you mean my avatar at "full res" yes
@MarkGarcia I do that too
lol, the Lounge
@BartekBanachewicz be sure to to switch on audio here
08:34
Ahahahahaha!!!
it's worth it
listening, duh :)
spotify:track:7pgMgwhD03swzv4pmhxsmK for increased fidelity
ooooooh you used the spotify URI
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> To date, the default setting of GOMAXPROCS in Go releases has been 1.
For Go 1.5, we propose to change the default to the number of CPUs available.
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08:36
yay
hmpfh I've realized that the light bulb in my motorbike has 35 Watts
that's a freaking lot
@rightfold finally
incidentally I have to replace it
I remember converting a go app to use channels/goroutines, and performance was the same. After a couple of hours, I remembered GOMAXPROCS.
@rightfold Because no fucking beginner will redeclare anything on purpose.
08:38
@buttifulbuttefly why?
@sehe What streaming software are you using?
@nabijaczleweli It OBS (Open Broadcaster Software)
you know, fuck buying over the internet
it's pretty much unable these days to google for a local shop that has a freaking light bulb
You get to test when you personally buy parts.
@BartekBanachewicz Anything Castorama-ish really.
08:47
Does anyone here practice TDD? That is, write the test first, test doesn't compile (because the code to test does not exist yet), then implement the actual code? Never write code that isn't covered by tests first?
@Griwes I need this thing
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@fredoverflow I often do that.
"Often" contradicts TDD, doesn't it? :)
You have to do it 100% all the time, or it's not TDD, right?
@fredoverflow It feels nice for little, well-defined things, but it completely fails when you are sketching a big thing (that is not entirely well defined yet).
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I don't do it in all projects.
08:48
Ugh, .fi. Fucking work proxies.
@fredoverflow No
@Griwes that's not a home bulb
bub
@BartekBanachewicz Okay. That might change things.
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oh hey @Ven look what I found github.com/rightfold/gamma/blob/master/lib/vm.ls lol
Is it a homeless bulb
08:51
@fredoverflow I don't quite get the usefulness of it. At least for my own projects.
@BartekBanachewicz I have tons of there and don't know what to do with it
@Mr.kbok Hot reloading of risk management rules
you're free to come over and pick em up lol
@buttifulbuttefly Just get your hot intern to do the reloading
@Mr.kbok they cost like €1
08:55
I am the hot intern
I just want to buy one locally
because can't ride my motorbike until I replace it
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@fredoverflow I made this with TDD: github.com/rightfold/klok
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but like most of my projects it's been ABANDONED
4
@buttifulbuttefly His statement can also imply that. ;)
@buttifulbuttefly You're an intern?
08:56
@rightfold You can't spell ABANDONED without DONE!
No but I'm hot, that's already half the deal
Ven
Ven
@rightfold lol
@sehe wow, you have quite the viewers! congrats :)
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@rightfold php looks like Java at first glance.
08:57
Hello
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all these old projects are great.
Ven
Ven
@fredoverflow omg, I was thinking the same "is that java? oh wait, there are $. it's php"
@rightfold That project's name sounds like another take on @Mr.kbok's name.
@Jefffrey hi
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@rightfold ...Like? Sounds like Scala.
Ven
Ven
08:59
@rightfold java8 has traits.
Mr. kokblok
16
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PHP traits don't create subtyping relationship.
Ven
Ven
and java interfaces do?
@buttifulbuttefly lol took me a while
@Ven Sure they do.
09:00
@Mr.kbok lmao
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@Ven yes
Ven
Ven
ok
Hi all
> Om wraps React and still beats it in performance
Is there an easier way to edit IDL files in visual studio? There are methods to easily add members to classes and the header files, but not to the IDL :(
09:05
amazing technology
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what is an IDL?
COM thing IIRC
iface description
Interface definition file for COM, used by VS and C++
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crappy object model
Maybe so, but works across technologies :)
09:07
Isn't the IDL always generated?
The IDL is created semi automatically in the first place, but afaict, hand edited from there. It's then compiled into header files that provide the interface for a class.
so now I need to create a method and copy and paste to 3 locations, remembering the quirks in each
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> For rabbits Grexit is not exactly fun. Make sure the rabbit is not exposed to asbestos. Rabbits can be from here restless or lifeless, especially during a Grexit. Opens AEX more than five percent? Then give your rabbit a few extra heads of broccoli or a handful of granola (and therefore no asbestos). What parakeets is concerned, one advice more important than any other: squeeze your parakeet not death during a Grexit. This can, in times of financial uncertainty, the head cost.
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LOL
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CBA to fix crappy google translate output so deal with it
@Deanna cue the old "java and anal sex" saying
09:09
what's 'Grexit' meant to be?
Something very funny apparently
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greece exiting the EU
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or eurozone
Internal network doesn't work today
I'm too tired to work
I see...
so are Greece getting kicked out then?
Ell
Ell
09:11
No idea
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lolno
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why'd junker want to decrease the amount of land he owns
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but they can leave themselves
Ell
Ell
glGetUniformLocation is being called every frame for some reason. hmm
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because you call it within the loop
09:12
@thecoshman No, they want to get rid of euro
@Mr.kbok they do realise they'll till owe money...
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oh
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that's also good
@thecoshman The deal is that if they exit, they won't pay
Well not really
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they won't pay anyway since you can't pay if you're broke
09:14
The deal if that if they don't pay, they will exit the eurozone :)
Because they need to raise sovereign debt and they won't be able to do it in euro anymore
So they create their own currency, with blackjack and hookers
@rightfold that site is terrible
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you're terrible
@Mr.kbok I wonder when they'll wake up that they can't be doing their bullshit anymore :F
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09:21
as is Clojure
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what a horrible language
Ven
Ven
y u gotta be so rood
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because I don't like groen
@Ven I have no reference point there. Also, I'm not doing it for that. Although it would make no sense to do it without any viewers :/
@rightfold oh god. Everyone saw that now
Poll: out of tree builds, yes/no
09:25
Sorry guys for disturbing, but I have little issue: what is the difference and which is better: WIN32 Sleep() function or std::this_thread::sleep_for() ?
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the latter works on more platforms
One is WINAPI the other is portable
nice distinction :p
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@Ven do you know a good JS bigint library?
But both works only from within the thread they are being called?
Ell
Ell
09:30
@buttifulbuttefly yes
@Marox44 You won't have to ask that if you're using the latter. :)
@Marox44 Do you want to put other threads to sleep?
@Ell ~redundancy~
Ell
Ell
I think I am using unordered_map::emplace incorrectly
¬_¬ transferring code-base out hardly just finished, and then we start having to look at following it to add more crap into the mix
Ell
Ell
09:36
I need try_emplace
@Griwes what do you mean their bullshit?
> senior penetration tester
wot
@buttifulbuttefly yes
do senior penetration testers need senior penetrators to test
@Deanna Actually, IDL is much more general (Corba uses it for IIOP things). But you're right, Microsoft has "monopolized" it by adding the well known slew of proprietary extensions/conventions (more the latter, I suppose)
@AlexM. I'm applying :)
09:41
lol
Ell
Ell
fixed now
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CORBA
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I never did anything with that.
Ell
Ell
3 object leaks. hmm
Unrecognized toolchain 'x86_64-win32-gcc'
uh what now
user1804599
09:43
install gentoo
@Mr.kbok I need to convince my boss
@rightfold I need a script that automatically plonks you when you go off the rails
it's tedious to do it manually constantly
that's why your an programmer
09:45
I'm trying to build libvpx
@BartekBanachewicz Rightfold off the Rails
Ell
Ell
on windows?
download the binaries vOv
If there are any
otherwise you're outta luck prolly
I'll be quiet actually
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@BartekBanachewicz make it problem solved
I need ARM binaries
Ell
Ell
do you have an arm cross compiler?
@buttifulbuttefly Capitalize on your hotness and he'll agree to anything you ask
Ell
Ell
fixed the leak woop
IRTA weak loop
Ell
Ell
lol
@Mr.kbok Cicada's boss is gay?
09:51
@Ell do or do not, there is not try
> debug> bt
Can't request backtrace now
@buttifulbuttefly ¬_¬ that is annoying me more than I think any of you would expect
Node.js so debuggable.
(That's node's debugger.)
Hi. Ok so.. confessions, I attempted C again and I like it this time. Ref: chat.stackoverflow.com/transcript/10?m=23385673#23385673
@Griwes The message suggests you can try again later and it will work :o
Bad error messages FTW
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09:53
@AwalGarg C is terrible, C programmers are terrible and you are terrible.
I am terrible indeed. Good catch.
@milleniumbug I tried again now, it doesn't work.
this is so good
especially the way it gets progressively silent
Top 3 Languages: Java C/C++ C#/.NET
@Griwes well, shit
09:57
@sehe, for a split second I thought it was 'Java C', 'C++ C#' & '.NET'
great communications skills
Ell
Ell
Guys
I have a style question
auto foo = bar.find(qux);
if(foo == bar.end()) {
	foo = bar.insert(...);
}
return foo;
versus
auto foo = bar.find(qux);
if(foo == bar.end()) {
	return bar.insert(...);
} else {
	return foo;
}
user1804599
neither; indent or GTFO
return bar.find_or_insert(qux);
if there's no such function, return find_or_insert(bar, qux);
@BartekBanachewicz Suppose that that is the implementation of find_or_insert.
@Griwes once you get to that, you realize it hardly matters
09:59
return bar[qux];
(...that function needs an implementation to be usable, y'know)
@StackedCrooked that's value, not iterator

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