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2:01 PM
Just make the program useless, then you won't need any code :p
 
(void)hitEnemy: (Enemy)enemy withWeapon: (Weapon)weapon andBuffs: (Buffs)buffs;
it makes sense I guess, sorta
 
@райтфолд welcome to the internet
 
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@Borgleader I really don't like how glload makes the GL_TRUE constant in the cpp style to be gl::TRUE_.
 
It appears to me that some people misinterprete shit purposely.
 
@Columbo u wat? how?
 
2:06 PM
@sehe I have a small question. I have dfs algorithm on a big graph, which is written in python. Will I get significantly better performance if I move to C++?
 
@sehe How you doin' mate
 
@ThePhD The underscore bothers you? because all GL_X constants are gl::X
 
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@Borgleader Yeah. ;~;
 
actually that's a really interesting way to read code
I'm starting to like this
 
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I would have preferred gl::True, to be honest.
 
2:10 PM
it makes you think about names more seriously
 
user3010322
And gl::False
 
@ThePhD i assumed its to avoid shit with microsoft TRUE/FALSE macros
 
and once you get the hang of it, the labels are like mini-docs for your params
and method as a whole
 
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@Borgleader Yep.
 
yay, 150k!
6
 
2:11 PM
@LightningRacisinObrit maybe ill get there, when im as old as @JerryCoffin
 
......
 
@MarcoA. I already posted that.
 
I know
 
I'm just ashamed
 
2:13 PM
you should be stoned to death
reposts are bad mkay
 
m4d p4int sk1llz for code documentation is something I had never thought of before
 
@MarcoA. well it works. for 3 year olds.
 
o_0 so apparently adding brackets to a-b-c+d to make a-(b-c)+d changed the results... am I that stupid or does that not make sense?
 
@thecoshman that stupid, sorry
First expression is the same as a + (-b) + (-c) + d, if that’s any help.
 
@thecoshman that makes it a-b+c+d
 
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2:18 PM
@sehe thank you :)
 
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@AlexM. nice readable method name :)
 
@LucDanton :\ crap damn it
 
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one of the nice things about Objective-C
 
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Also, needs - or +.
 
10 - 7 - 2 = 1
10 - (7 - 2) = 5
 
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2:20 PM
@AlexM. setA:andB:.
 
@fredoverflow derp, when it's in front of you like that it makes sense
 
@Belloc Nope. Sorry, you're simply wrong. A is an init-declarator. It is also declared as a typedef-name, because the specifier typedef is present, but that does not change the fact that in this declaration it constitutes an init-declarator. If you're categorically denying that, I'm not gonna try to convince you any further. — Columbo 3 mins ago
 
just curious: do you guys usually use lots of comments in your code?
 
@khajvah I don't think so; but you can test it
@LightningRacisinObrit not bad, for a girl
 
@MarcoA. Varies widely. I try to concentrate more on quality than quantity. Sometimes just a few words suffice to clarify intent. Other times, comments have "outweighed" the code several times over.
 
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2:27 PM
@MarcoA. see for yourself:
 
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% cat * | wc -l
971
% ack '//|/\*' | wc -l
2
 
@khajvah don't think so either in that specific case. Might be if you're doing some heavy number-crunching
 
TBH I don't that that case is "specific" at all
A graph being "large" doesn't mean zilch. It depends on how it is populated, what the memory representation is etc.
 
Nah, it is basically dictionary lookup which is O(1)
 
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If your mother were a graph she'd be a large graph.
2
 
user1804599
2:29 PM
big beautiful graph
 
@JerryCoffin I'm probably the only one who keeps forgetting what a line of code does in a few months
 
user1804599
I know it again after reading it.
 
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Because the line of code documents itself.
 
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That's why it's there.
 
@thecoshman I won't pile it on then
 
2:31 PM
@MarcoA. Figuring out what it does isn't usually the main problem. Comments should usually tell about why it does that (especially when it's contrary to what might seem obvious).
 
@sehe It is pretty heavily connected and i use a a dictionary where each key is a node and it values are list of nodes the key is connected to
 
omg
this guy
 
drum roll...
 
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rum troll
 
A typedef declaration is not a simple-declaration. I'm not categorically saying anything. I'm just trying to bring arguments to the discussion. — Belloc 6 mins ago
 
2:34 PM
@JerryCoffin I'd prefer to specify why I designed that particular piece of code that way, more than focusing on why I need to do something (that should be straightforward). WTF/minute reduction policy.
 
Surprisingly, the computer science majors at my school think the infinity of 0 to 1 is smaller than the infinity of 0 to 2 AND they don't play minesweeper
what the fuc
 
@DonLarynx But can't you make a bijection from (0, 1) to any interval of real numbers?
 
@Columbo exactlyyyyy
i should have a minesweeper competition to prove a point, and during lunch break, give a presentation on one-to-one and onto functions.
 
@DonLarynx They're both countable infinities, right?
 
Why don't you get started counting them, @Puppy. Let us know when you're done.
 
2:39 PM
@Puppy .....................no.......................
 
Fucking google chrome piece of shit
100% CPU usage
What the fuck are you doing?
 
@Jefffrey lol
 
Puppy being shit at cardinality
 
I have 1 tab open
 
What a surprise
 
2:40 PM
Use firefox problem solved
 
@khajvah Firefox is crap, unfortunately
So is every other browser
 
hm
 
@Jefffrey 10-subtabs with your favorite pr0nz website?
s
 
no
 
@Jefffrey are you on baidu?
 
2:41 PM
Use dwb, it is a good browser
 
Tempted to change the tag from language-lawyer to language-dreamingsehe 31 secs ago
 
nope
 
Use chrome, it is shit
Inb4 yeap
 
chromium's source code is quite messy
 
Because you never saw chrome on youtube! Oh boi it gets hot.
Reached peaks of 150% CPU usage
1 tab with youtube on it
 
2:42 PM
@LightningRacisinObrit Your response is even more moronic than his, unless you're aware of the actual definition of countable in that context (and the post was highly sarcastic or sth.)
 
In HTML5 version
 
some parts are heavily optimized (v8 core), but all the other parts look really cumbersome
 
I'm not sure why you keep posting quotes from a random language-lawyer bitching
 
@DonLarynx Not from me, at least. What do you mean.
 
@Columbo nvm
 
2:44 PM
@Puppy Because if someone is wrong on the internet I'm getting into rage
Nvm
 
Everybody is right in the internet
It is a rule
 
@khajvah especially me
 
@sehe are you busy? git help needed here
 
equality is a splendid concept, but only among equal individuals
 
@райтфолд ooh
 
2:45 PM
Dearest @Columbo I'm busy being plinked by your removals.
 
What is going on here
 
removal upheaval
 
@khajvah I guess I break the rule--I'm definitely left, not right.
 
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I want a GUI library based on a process calculus.
 
I also like to live dangerously. Breakibg rules and shit
 
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2:48 PM
@AlexM. also common is just setA:b:.
 
@sehe Does one pronounce the 'h' in that word?
 
@khajvah uninstall your firewall, remove service packs and visit porn sites
also: say yes to every "you haz a virus, plz check pc nau" banner you encounter
 
@MarcoA. I am on linux. Viruses dont make harm
 
I r mac
 
Why is everybody grammer nazi here?
 
2:50 PM
@AlexM. My condolences.
 
@khajvah you're contradicting yourself. Now go and live dangerously: install XP.
 
@MarcoA. I will install vista
 
@khajvah We're programmers. Compilers demand grammatically correct input, so we (mostly) do too.
 
Our fight of epic proportions has ended!
I'm finally convinced. Thanks (+1) — Belloc 1 min ago
 
I've seen improvements in how long it takes to solve problems since I wrote the "Commonly encountered problems & solutions" section in my docs
well, that's not really the cause actually
 
2:56 PM
@Columbo congrats, you just wasted 30 minutes of your life.
 
I'm the only one that responds to mails with "Your problem is already covered here, check the docs and let me know if you've tried everything in there and still have problems"
and nothing else
 
@khajvah ... @sehe has wasted over 10000 hours arguing with novices about Boost and shit, so I'm still happy with that
 
@khajvah Because Hitler.
 
define: to waste
 
I also got the OK for a section about how to compose support emails
so it will double the fun
 
2:57 PM
@sehe to waste: define
:D
 
Noun: eargasm (plural eargasms)
  1. A sense of pleasure derived from listening to something, particularly music.
  2. A sense of pleasure derived from physical stimulation of the earlobe or ear canal, such as when using a Q-Tip to clean the ear.
 
interesting title
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Q: How much longer can one reproduce?

Kerrek SBI have always felt that the close reason "caused by a problem that can no longer be reproduced" was a bit awkward. The wording "no longer" suggests that the problem was demonstrably reproducible, and indeed reproduced, up to a certain point and then stopped being reproducible. This is not someth...

 
I was going to take offense at the question title here, but decided that it's probably not meant in a personal way ;) — Mike McCaughan yesterday
why take offense
 
@AlexM. probably because xkcd.com/583
 
lol
damn heisendicks
 
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3:07 PM
guys
 
user1804599
I need to make software.
 
user1804599
lots and lots of software
 
user1804599
make software every single day
 
I don't believe you
 
3:09 PM
@райтфолд I advise that you only make software on married days.
 
user1804599
What's a married day?
 
@райтфолд The opposite of a single day, obviously.
 
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:[
 
[Template comment referencing title wit.]BoltClock ♦ 4 hours ago
@AlexM. because no one will give it
 
@sehe A C or C++ programmer would do it more efficiently: #include <witty_comment.h>.
 
3:14 PM
Adverb: efficiently (comparative more efficiently, superlative most efficiently)
  1. In an efficient manner.
 
just to make sure stupidity is not getting the better of me yet again, << will not modify the left hand side will it (that would required <<=)? it just returns a new value. Talking 'normal' bitshift here.
 
@thecoshman Correct. Both operands can be rvalues (e.g., 1<<3 is perfectly valid).
 
@JerryCoffin :\ not sure if I would like to have been wrong there
 
> To get it [player speed bug occurring while crouching] starting any player anywhere on the map has to crouch and stand up again while you are crouched and scoped. Once it is going you will revert to the actual crouch velocity whenever anyone on the server is crouched. Once they stand up again you're back on the autobahn.
 
oh well, on a I go debugging this nonesense
 
3:17 PM
wtf how do you get a bug like this in your game (CS GO)
 
State interactions
 
seems like a global variable somewhere to me
 
it's insane how many bugs they let through with this update
 
Multiplayer isn't easy
 
a special event ended and I guess they didn't want to make two updates quickly, and just pushed all fixes in
this only hurt them more, because they already released 2 or 3 hotfixes
 
3:19 PM
And gamedevs are bad at writing safe code
 
@CatPlusPlus s/safe //
 
Oh hey I have an old version of Spotify here
IT MINIMISES TO TRAY PRAISE THE UNIVERSE
 
probably even s/at.*//
 
I'll become a gamedev and invalidate those claims!
 
@CatPlusPlus Careful with that. The universe is already swelling. Your effusiveness will only accelerate the trend.
 
3:21 PM
Good riddance
 
@Columbo Dude it was a fucking joke chill out
 
Xeo
@CatPlusPlus I wish there was a fourth window top bar button for "minimize to tray".
Currently it's either that normal minimize or closing does it.
And sometimes you can't even configure it
 
I might actually start using multiple desktops because christ I don't need all active things on the taskbar but I still want a way to access them
 
I decided to write a kernel. Where do I start?
 
When you're trying to tell your friends a story but nobody is listening http://t.co/oC45nuibXM
/cc @Cat
 
3:25 PM
@CatPlusPlus lol
I would love to see that.
 
@CatPlusPlus Thing is, Spotify is not a daemon or a service. It doesn't deserve to minimise to tray.
 
Fuck i have to configure amazon ec server or however it is called.
 
@CatPlusPlus you mean "and become worse"
 
@LightningRacisinObrit I don't care about the UI, I just want it to start playing and get the fuck out of the way
 
@khajvah You start by allocating 30 years of your life.
 
3:30 PM
@CatPlusPlus ;p
well that is what minimising does
it's not in the way on the taskbar
 
It's in the way on the taskbar
 
Besides it's "notification area", not "daemon/service area", even foreground apps create icons there
So crap logic
 
so what exactly would it be notifying you of in the tray
 
That it exists
 
3:31 PM
as you say, it is for notifications
lolwut
 
I don't want it to be part of Alt-Tab sequence, I don't want it to be intermingled with windows I actually need
 
you need it when you want to change what is playing, or pause it, or change volume
or when your playlist ends
 
@Xeo fairly sure you can get do-dad things that can force it on windows
 
completely reasonable for it to be a window
it is not a service
 
Ugh
The playing is a service
 
3:32 PM
good argument
 
The UI is service control
 
only insomuch as presenting text to my eyes is a service of Chrome
so why does Chrome minimise to tray just to notify me that it exists
 
Yeah whatever
:cripes:
 
good argument
 
I forgot that I shouldn't pay attention to things you say
Sorry
 
3:33 PM
...
that's a pretty childish way to respond to an opposing viewpoint
especially when that opposing viewpoint is clearly shared by the majority
 
@CatPlusPlus sit back a second and think who you are wasting your time with
 
@khajvah Toolchain. Not bootloaders
 
ffs
you people piss me off
 
Also lol if you think you can use a remote VM
Get QEmu
 
Twat: *makes silly statement*
LRiO: *calmly and logically argues in favour of its opposite*
Twat: *more silly statements in defence*
LRiO: *reasoned debate*
Twat: "ugh i should have known not to pay attention to the things you say"
Twat2: "dont waste your time"
Twat3: "lol LRiO is such a prick just plonk him"
:(
 
3:35 PM
:cripes:
 
you two and Bartek should get T-shirts or something
 
@Jefffrey Well, things are going that way
 
"we are total dicks"
"dicks r here"
 
"I'm with dick"
 
"im with stupid; and dicks"
 
3:37 PM
--->
beat u
 
heh
cheers Dan
 
@thecoshman Never
 
Actually cat is right on this one. Spotify is like a radio, you turn it on and leave it. It will be annoying to jump over it every time you swutch between windows
 
@khajvah Regardless of any veracity of his arguments, the way he goes about making it is wholly retarded
who uses Alt+Tab in 2015, anyway? jeebus
besides, it'll come down to use cases. I for one change the current playlist quite frequently so easy access is a must
for those who want it sitting in the BG out of the way I can kind of understand it
 
@LightningRacisinObrit Lol.
 
3:39 PM
we might have reached that point of the conversation if Cat hadn't turned into a three year old child the moment someone disagreed with him shrug
 
I do if i am not on tiling wm
 
What is funny about it?
 
How is not wasting any space silly?
 
3:42 PM
@LightningRacisinObrit It is very entertaining to watch someone use one, though
 
@khajvah it's not
unfortunately, that is not what Tiling WMs accomplish
 
Tiling WMs best WMs
 
Try i3
 
@CatPlusPlus somehow I expected that
 
Lol
 
3:43 PM
tiling doesn't waste any space as long as you are using all of your windows concurrently all the time
gg
> Google Tech Talk about i3: This video (1 hour) is an introduction to i3, explaining our motivation, a bit of history, some cool features and how we develop.
fuck off with your fucking tech talks for fuck's sake
DESCRIBE THE PRODUCT IN TEXT
 
@CatPlusPlus You took a gamedev job offer?
 
I tried to convince CivBE today to go into borderless mode
 
Xeo
@LightningRacisinObrit I do.
 
Again check out i3. Switching from tiles to full screen is a matter of one click
 
The mouse gets offset because someone doesn't know what the fuck client area is
 
3:45 PM
@Xeo so do I :P
 
Like your actual pointer is 20 pixels below the drawn cursor
Ridiculous
 
i8 is better anyway
^
@khajvah Stacked suits my workflow optimally.
 
@Jefffrey No, I'm helping a friend with a game and I might go with that
 
@khajvah also i3 only works on GNU/Linux and BSD, bud
 
@khajvah Pfft, clicks
 
3:47 PM
@LightningRacisinObrit so overrated
 
not even the most demanding games really require more than a proper i5
 
I have an i5
but you wouldn't know it
 
me too
sandy bridge oldschool representin
 
@LightningRacisinObrit yeah, I dont know if there are any tiling wms for windows.
 
3:48 PM
the only tech enhancement with which I've actually noticed any substantial improvement in performance is my SSD
@khajvah because people who use Windows are sensible and don't wank over stupid gadgetry that makes no sense
 
Windows can tile for you, but it's inflexible and only done on demand
Also windows still have decorations
 
oh no you have to ask for something before you get it
maybe you should try asking Spotify for dumb minimise to tray
 
@LightningRacisinObrit hm interestingly idiotic statement but I wont start arguing
 
lol
Good choice
 
@LightningRacisinObrit I noticed an improvement when I bought a GTX 760
after 3 or 4 years of integrated video
 
3:50 PM
@CatPlusPlus Open source game?
 
I might try Tidal
 
I fired up Crysis 2 and maxed it out first thing in
 
I didn't have Crysis 3
 
@Jefffrey No
 
3:50 PM
@khajvah Congratulations; unlike some of the abject morons up in this gaff, you passed the test.
 
:c
 
@CatPlusPlus Fuck you
 
@AlexM. How's the FPS?
 
@Nooble it was great
the game was shit though
 
Xeo
@LightningRacisinObrit How mature. :P
 
3:51 PM
I only played 3 hours or so
 
Oh by the way.
 
it was CoD with aliens
 
@Xeo Shurrup - it's adult language therefore mature!
 
BF4 is free.
 
3:51 PM
For a week.
 
@LightningRacisinObrit It's nice to see you still have a highly active imagination anyway.
 
@Nooble too busy playing CS
 
@Nooble I have a bad feeling about it. Free games are shit.
 
@AlexM. I need to buy CS.
@khajvah BF4 is amazing.
 
@khajvah There was at one time. It was called Windows 1.0.
 
3:52 PM
@Nooble Whoever spends more, wins, right?
 
do you even know how these games work wtf
actually do you know what Battlefield is
 
I play only battlefield 2 :)
 
It's an AAA title.
The story is interesting so far.
 
@khajvah right
BF didn't go F2P yet
 
3:54 PM
2 mins ago, by Nooble
For a week.
it's a promo m8
made to bring people in and see Battlefield Hardline
 
It's called Origin Game Time or something.
 
Ah makes sense
 
Spotify made the change because lots of users complained about Cat's preferred behaviour
 
I participated in the beta for hardline, wasn't really that much fun.
 
"Holy shit this BF4 game is cool. I'll buy it. Also Battlefield Hardline looks cool and I'm seeing it everywhere."
 
3:56 PM
@Nooble Again?
 
BF2 is my favourite game of all time though
 
halo 4 only computer game
 
@CatPlusPlus I think so yeah.
 
I played BF3 and it was Not Very Fun
 
I liked Bad Company 2
 
3:56 PM
I think I have BF4 from last time it was free
 
Campaign is really nice.
 
But it wouldn't even connect because of ShitBuster
 
the game that I like the most and I own on Origin is The Sims 2
lol
 
So I said fuck it
 
I just couldn't get myself to like Dragon Age that much
 
3:57 PM
Punkbuster is super annoying.
 
@AlexM. BC2 and BF3 were faaiirly different games
 
@Nooble depending on the medium...
 
@Nooble Less than playing MW2 and every game was dominated by hackers
 
once you see the amount of cheaters in CS GO and actually want to play competitively
 
Punkbuster is fucking broken useless piece of shit that causes more problems for legitimate players than cheaters
 
3:58 PM
ESEA's rootkit-like anti-cheat doesn't sound so bad
it's the best there is atm
 
@AlexM. How do they cheat? is it that buggy?
 
"Rootkit-like" "doesn't sound so bad"
 
well, not sure if rootkit is right
it's a lot more invasive than Valve's
 
3:59 PM
@khajvah they pay money and send it to mafia dons who control the game
 
Playing with pubbies sucks anyway
 
personally I'd tolerate a rootkit anti-cheat if it worked effectively and did not interfere with legitimate players
 
ffs playlist just got to Christmas songs
changing music
thank god all I have to do is Alt+Tab to my music player
 
@khajvah a game doesn't need to be buggy for external processes to access its memory
 

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