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user1804599
11:00 AM
I don't think they can be references.
 
HE IS NOT WRITING HASKELL ALRIGHT
EVERYBODY CALM DOWN
 
@райтфолд lambda params can't be refs?
 
@khajvah If you consider the sequence a(n) = sum(i=0..n, (-1)^n), you have a(2k) = 1 and a(2k+1) = 0 for any integer k >= 0
 
user1804599
@AlexM. generalized captures.
 
@Griwes fo sho?
 
11:00 AM
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Yeah. I tried downloading TV shows without a connection to the internet. That did not work at all:(
 
This sequence does not converge, hence your sum does not exist
 
@thecoshman Just capture f?
@khajvah The conclusion doesn't follow from the premises.
 
user1804599
std::bind([] (auto& bar) { ... }, std::ref(f.bar)) :P
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes but I don't want to.. but fine :\
 
@thecoshman Why not?
 
11:02 AM
@райтфолд ugh
 
@thecoshman captures are not arguments
 
see that's what you get when you introduce reference semantics
 
lol
 
a fucking mess is what you get
 
@AlexM. What kind of stuff have you got on your plate?
 
11:02 AM
pass everything by value problem solved
 
@BartekBanachewicz take your own ADVICE :)
 
@Rerito wut
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes vOv seems sloppy capturing f when I only want f.bar
 
@BartekBanachewicz lol
 
@Rerito Fair enough
 
11:03 AM
@thecoshman I think it's a lot better, actually.
 
@sehe it came from me from the future.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes how so?
 
By the way, I refuse to say "Happy St. Patrick's Day" because I am not Irish and neither are any of you. Except I just said it. Dammit.
 
Capturing either of f or f.bar by reference has the same lifetime requirements: f has to live as long as the lambda.
 
user1804599
Not if bar is a reference.
 
11:03 AM
Might as well be explicit and capture f.
 
user1804599
Oh wait, it's an int.
 
@райтфолд It isn't.
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit thecoshman is, isn't he?
 
@Rerito I don't count him as being here.
 
Capturing f.bar is more roundabout and potentially misleading, so I prefer the other option.
 
11:04 AM
@Rerito Because he cannot read what I write.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes I guess
 
@Rerito So there is very little purpose in including him in my stated audience
 
user1804599
Don't guess, be certain.
 
@Rerito He's not Irish. He just lives there.
 
OTOH there is auto& bar = f.bar; [&bar] { … }
 
11:05 AM
@LucDanton roundabout and potentially misleading!
:P
 
Oh, so you are getting people to do your work for you. Well played. stackoverflow.com/questions/28996348/… and stackoverflow.com/questions/29039461/…msw 18 hours ago
DV and close the lot
 
@Rerito he's italian
 
What if it is void f(auto& bar) { [&bar] { … }; } and you pass f.bar?
 
What does Sean Connery to do a shit question?
 
One way or the other, I can’t really feel strongly about the matter. You capture variables (not objects) and that’s it.
 
11:06 AM
@LightnessRacesinOrbit A verb.
 
@thecoshman So that’s my take on the matter: f.bar is not a variable.
Why variables? I suppose capturing as done in C++ could be described as syntactical in nature. C++17 generalized captures handle the non-syntactical aspect of it, when needed.
(Although there’s this-capture, heh!)
 
oh drunk people, how ye entertain
 
@AlexM. lol
 
you know it's really frustrating when you lose a yolo bet (17% odds in my case) in a very close match (2-1 pushed into overtime)
 
11:10 AM
a bet where the odds are so low you bet not caring if you lose
 
you do care if you lose that closely though
because holy shit possible winnings with those odds
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes something about sports I think
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes ah fuck
i'm hungover leave me alone
 
can I create a new configuration in VS where the binary folder is the same, but just running options differ?
 
11:16 AM
The temptation to continually ping LRiO is almost overwhelming, but I will resist. I will.
 
@thecoshman I think it's CS:GO talk.
 
@Nooble same reasoning applies
anyway, it's my fault for betting on very low level teams with chaotic play and barely any strategies
most rounds are like flipping a coin at this level
they're also annoying to watch after you saw top level teams playing
you can't help but think "omg what a bunch of noobs"
when they make dumb mistakes
 
@BartekBanachewicz Should be possible (just specify the desired Output Directory in the project settings), but is it a good idea? I'd rather not mix build outputs
 
@AndyProwl i just want different commandlines and/or temp removal added
 
I think it should be easy to achieve
Really just override the default Output Directory in the project settings after creating the new configuration
 
11:29 AM
@MartinJames -.-
I'm not sure why but I went out and had an absolutely banging night after a long day and a long drive
I never usually go out on a Monday
it was great though
@9205892 OH MY GOD THE COMMA ABUSE IT BURRRRRRNS
m8 y u separate sentences wit comma
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Yea. I went out too. Drank large quantities of Tribute. Had a curry. Slept in office chair.
 
@MartinJames I had... I don't know what I had. A load of Dooms and vodka, I imagine. I remember I already had heartburn by the time we got to town at midnight-ish and had to turn down the first round in preference for water (blimey)
and then it all sort of went down/up-hill from there
Apparently I went to Burger King on the way home
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit IME, that can happen :)
 
judging by the large and sticky cup of Fanta on my desk
 
Hi guys... Could someone please take some time to check my little snippet and help me fix it (array parse and search)
 
11:33 AM
> (I want to use this way, not the array<string>)
why?
you're literally making things as difficult as possible for yourself
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit just to learn that way too :)
 
@Enissay C-arrays are not pointers
 
@Enissay Makes zero sense.
 
@Enissay protip
learn the nicest solution
learn the ugliest only when needed
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this is not needed
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit I feel pretty rough. Every time that Tribute is on, this happens.
 
11:34 AM
@Enissay Also, null-terminated strings can't be compared with ==
 
@Enissay I see. Well, you have two problems: brand should be brand+0 otherwise you fail deduction before the array name decay kicks in. And you cannot compare C-strings for equality like that so you'll have to provide strcmp as comparator (possibly through a wrapper; I don't remember what find's comparator needs).
 
don't use C arrays and pointers uh
 
hmm
 
@BartekBanachewicz If that was a comment, I would +1 it for not describing those 'things' as strings.
 
@Enissay std::find(std::begin(brand), std::end(brand), [](const char* lhs, const char* rhs){ return strcmp(lhs, rhs) == 0; });
 
11:36 AM
@milleniumbug Why are you telling him this :/
 
1 min ago, by Bartek Banachewicz
don't use C arrays and pointers uh
 
34 flags WTF?
 
fucking spammer
 
50 flags of wtf
 
seems he's posting the same link in all rooms
 
11:38 AM
Dammit I ran out of flags
 
> This user has been automatically suspended for posting inappropriate content and cannot chat for 5 hours 58 minutes.
 
Just four rooms short of target
@BartekBanachewicz fucking hell is that it
in Feel Free, 1 min ago, by Lightness Races in Orbit
Good grief I found a chatroom where you're not spamming the shit out of everyone
lol
 
trying so hard to not be racist right now
 
How do you know it's him?
 
11:40 AM
try harder?
2
 
yeah I hate Google Plus too
 
@AndyProwl it's the author of the spammed link
might be a long shot vOv
@Mgetz I've been playing Gameboy games on Android since Android 1.5
 
@Mgetz oh man I thought the song in the comments was this one
such a great song
 
11:42 AM
QOTSA is a cool band
 
@BartekBanachewicz not officially though
 
@AlexM. it's Darude - Sandstorm
 
this is official from nintendo
 
I'm not a nintendo fan in particular so welp, #dontcare
they'll prolly make them worse than via emulator
and with In-app purchases
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit We had this on starboard already :P
 
11:44 AM
@Griwes aw :(
 
@BartekBanachewicz ah, I see. Makes sense
 
parenting.se is a source of depressing shit
it should be slayed
slayed with a greatsword
 
Parenting and Worldbuilding are the source of some of the dumber questions
 
No, it should be used to determine who is to have their children taken away. :P
 
> Peter Molyneux Interview: “I haven’t got a reputation in this industry any more”
 
11:50 AM
How do people "open" a new board? Do they pay to SE
 
ouch. cc @EtiennedeMartel
 
"never ever ever get depressed" This is actually deeply offensive. Do you really think that's how mental illness works? Extremely concerning if that's what you think. Your question started off pretending to be about fighting prejudices but instead you're chock full of them. — Lightness Races in Orbit 2 mins ago
-.-
 
@khajvah Area 51
 
Cos you can "train" people to never get depressed
Anyone who thinks that must look down on people who do
Which is shit
 
@Griwes I'd use genes for that
but that's just me
 
11:50 AM
@AlexM. ;d
 
anyway, didn't bother reading through all of that shit
did anyone ask the crazy woman how she survives in a sexist world?
 
oh BTW
Elite Dangerous seems like a really cool game
cc @CatPlusPlus
 
@BartekBanachewicz yeah, want
@AlexM. I decided to leave the "sexist world" bullshit well enough alone in this instance
 
there's some sexist crap going on around the CS GO scene too, with female players complaining that they're separated from male players
ignoring the fact that there's no rule about that
 
lol
separate yourself from male players then bitch about it
 
11:52 AM
and it's just them not qualifying against male teams and needing their own tournament
lol
 
yep, sounds like a woman
4
story confirmed
 
@AlexM. "We lost because of skill, let's pretend it was because of our gender."
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This bullshit is really tiring.
 
Yeah, been dealing with these idiots for a few weeks now: meta.stackexchange.com/a/251420/135615 . At least they're moderately entertaining with their code snippets that draw dicks. Their vandalizing edits have also been fun honeypots to find terrible reviewers. — Brad Larson ♦ 15 hours ago
heh
@Griwes THIS
 
^
@AlexM. I remember the LoL Siren team
"losing is not an option" was their motto
all female, of course
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit lol
 
11:57 AM
It really makes you wonder if these inconsistencies were mere oversights... or deliberately left in to make the audits even more obvious and to punish the worst offenders. The fact that a new user gets banned every two hours on average, even with these painfully obvious audits, speaks volumes of just how bad some reviewers can be. — BoltClock ♦ 19 hours ago
hah
 
they lost an unofficial match against some random internet dudes and disbanded
 
Hi Lightness
 
@BartekBanachewicz lol
 
Jan 26 '14 at 19:06, by Lightness Races in Orbit
(disclaimer: disgusting generalisation)
I had a hard time to decide. "What a retardedly absurd generalisation" would also be a nice fit
@TylerH Traffic cops make pretty lame speed bumps. I find that, once they've been knocked over, they barely hamper my vehicle running over them — sehe just now
 
Hello @Harshad.
 
12:09 PM
Hi
 
funny how sehe quoted the message directly after this:
Jan 26 '14 at 19:06, by Lightness Races in Orbit
Funny how people who insist gender doesn't define them carry on as if it's the only thing that defines them
not really sure what point he was trying to make. probably none whatsoever, as fucking usual.
 
^ also as usual
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Never assume humour if malice and pure evil grudge can be substituted with some effort
 
high wat
 
keep forgetting transcript is public
 
next time don't use the lounge as buffer for the UK's state secrets
 
12:14 PM
copy that
> Spain finds tomb of writer Cervantes
> Forensic scientists say they have found the tomb of Spain's much-loved giant of literature, Miguel de Cervantes, nearly 400 years after his death.
Naturally they then proceeded to dig the poor bugger up and trample all over the sanctity of his "final" resting place.
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit what does your nickname mean?
 
I dreamed about my family owned a house with a really really narrow bathroom - like 50cm wide. At first I thought, how could one get in? Then I thought, what a waste, 3 metre is rather long for just the toilet at the end.
 
@khajvah What does yours mean?
@chmod711telkitty Your psyche fascinates me
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit was that the answer to my question?
 
@khajvah Թեթեւություն Ավտոմրցույթ ուղեծիր
 
12:15 PM
@khajvah Yes.
 
@milleniumbug where should the string i'm looking for goes ? you replaced it with that anonymous function. It takes two params, I guess one comes from the parsed array and the other is the searched string, then returns true if they're equal, which means that find will return it's first param (ie: match). Am I right ?
 
@AlexM. google translate is good
 
ooooh
good one for April Fool's
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit he's from Armenia
 
12:16 PM
ohh
 
so I translated your nickname to armenian
 
Armenian is kinda pretty
 
I thought that's what he meant
 
@AlexM. Cheers, Alex Մ.
 
Cheers
 
12:17 PM
@LightnessRacesinOrbit I know, isn't it?
 
@Enissay Yeah, my mistake - see the docs, and replace the two-arg function with one-arg function
 
@Enissay Yes.
ffs
y u delete
 
who?
 
In other news std::find_if_not sucks
 
Xeo
@milleniumbug When you have trouble with C++, I recommend seeing the doc.
 
12:21 PM
a psychiatrist maybe
not any doc
 
std::copy_reverse_concat_find_if_not_greater
 
because you're most likely going to be traumatized
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit interesting question. I missed the UK state secretes too you know
 
"Salad is a miniature language used in place of English in the Python room. It consists of words which happen to be English names for vegetables, fruit, fungi or seeds." wtf
 
12:28 PM
@khajvah you
 
Kim Kangaskhan
 
@milleniumbug std::find_if_not_sucks
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Because not-hardcoding the predicate is too mainstream :)
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Time to create a twitter account...
 
12:36 PM
@milleniumbug Still having an error... it looks like it doesnt like that lambda function ideone.com/f9OPTO
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit were they ever?
 
@Enissay What did I tell you about looking at the docs?
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit oh jeez...
 
@milleniumbug oh my, I did... let me check again xD
 
god damnit conan
 
12:45 PM
Who here uses tmux?
How do I refer to the home directory in tmux.conf?
Oh, nevermind.
~ works. It just seems to not follow symlinks :<
 
how is ~ defined?
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes I do but I don’t think I can help you
 
No, wait, it follows file symlinks.
 
@BartekBanachewicz it's a non-standard expansion character convention AFAICT
 
Just not directory symlinks? o_O
I think I might have made a typo.
 
12:48 PM
Smells like a bug
 
Conan sux, he has no idea how to fix this :>
 
Works now. Totally a typo.
 
user1804599
1:01 PM
@milleniumbug Kim Genghis Khan
 
1:13 PM
really want to watch Community S6 but US only -.-
 
This is one of the detriments of living in a Monarchy
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit That's what Hola is for
 
@TheForestAndTheTrees aww sweet. ta :)
doesnt work -.-
 
Hello @LightnessRacesinOrbit
 
1:23 PM
Hi @Aniket.
 
Haskell means
 
@AniketDeshmukh www.google.com
and try full sentences some time
 
ok
ohh it's language of computer i got it
 
Not the best description but ok
 
really ok thanks
 
1:31 PM
@AniketDeshmukh rally ok thanks
 
@BartekBanachewicz my god your country is now my favorite just because of this guy youtube.com/watch?v=vr7iQZQ7S2M&t=4m35s
how can you not like that guy
my fav player
 
user1804599
Eiffel is amazing.
 
> RPS: You’re asking me to accept that you know you’ve run late on every game you’ve ever made but you were going to finish this one in a ludicrous and obviously impossible seven months?
FFS
the guy has a real point
 
Is that the Molyneux interview?
 
1:44 PM
@jalf p obvious innit
 
moulinex
 
> Peter Molyneux: No, I actually said, “I wish I hadn’t focused on,” I didn’t say I shouldn’t have done.

RPS: [Laughs]
 
anyway, PM is a meme now
like HL3
I doubt the interview did anything more than to feed that
 
Anyone following Cricket World cup 2015 ?
 
1:47 PM
I just know the Jam is coming
 
is still waiting for someone to join this room thinking it's about Haskell
 
I really dislike how it devolves into basically disbelieving him (or feigning disbelief) on issues that are pretty obvious and trivial to anyone with a software dev background
 
and we are all going to become molyneuxes
 
"HOW DARE YOU BE UNABLE TO ACCURATELY ESTIMATE THE TIME IT'LL TAKE TO MAKE A GAME? YOU'VE HAD YEARS OF PRACTICE"
 
@Rerito Oh do you know what are monoids?
 
1:47 PM
@Rerito Hasn’t it always been about Haskell?
 
@jalf more like, how dare you estimate at all if you know perfectly well you're not going to make it
 
@jalf that's because to the online community not delivering is what PM is all about
 
@BartekBanachewicz Nope
 
@BartekBanachewicz Eh, did you read the entire interview?
 
just like HL3 is all about not being released
 
1:49 PM
@LucDanton When Bartek is around obviously!
 
and nothing about being a possible good game
 
@BartekBanachewicz lol Molyneux is such a joke.
 
@AlexM. Sure, and he deserves a fuckton of criticism for that. But the interview seems to too frequently criticize him for things that every game developer and every software developer ever also fails at
 
@jalf finishing it
@jalf FTR I don't think he's as bad as they're painting him there
 
Wait, lolwut
 
1:50 PM
"Failing to deliver on time"? Yes, that's 90% of all kickstarter-funded games
 
> RPS: Do you think that you’re a pathological liar?
That's the first question?
 
Yeah :D
I liked that tbh. It's the latter parts of the interview that bugged me
 
that being said, I think he should hire a competent project manager because he can't fullfill this role and apparently is trying to
 
@BartekBanachewicz Yeah, agreed. Whatever the reason, he's failing at a lot of the roles he's taken on
 
> Peter Molyneux: I was wrong. But it’s not a lie.
apparently this is the best TL;DR
he doesn't think he's lying or cheating or misleading people in the slightest, apparently
 
1:53 PM
But the interview paints him as a liar and basically a scam artist, with no evidence to back it up. I see little reason not to simply assume that he's... just not very good at his job
 
> I mean, the Godus team were here at half past eight last night.
Ugh, still bragging about overtime.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes sucky sucky
 
@BartekBanachewicz Well, are you lying if you say what you believe to be true, when it later turns out to be false?
 
@BartekBanachewicz It's not lying if you honestly believe it.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Yeah, there's a bit later about how he doesn't have time to see his family. Bragging, or using that as an excuse, to show how seriously they're taking the game
 
1:54 PM
There's no accidental lying.
 
Pretty icky stuff
 
> In the late four hundreds B.C., during a performance of a play by Euripides, an actor created a fiasco by pitching the last syllable of the word galen’ as an up and then down instead of a simple up. As a result of that one literally false note, a line that was supposed to mean “After the storm, I see a calm once more” ended up as “After the storm, I see a weasel once more.” The audience collapsed into laughter, and tragedy became farce.)
 
Lying is, by definition, intentional.
 
yeah well.
3 mins ago, by Bartek Banachewicz
@jalf FTR I don't think he's as bad as they're painting him there
 
@sehe?
 
1:54 PM
apparently people are bad for trusting him, then :P
> I mean, why did I do that? It’s just incompetence.
 
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dynamically allocated mammaries
 
@BartekBanachewicz not bad, just stupid :p
If you give Molyneux your money, you should pretty much know what you're getting into by now :D
But that still doesn't make him a liar
 
@jalf that
 
Ugh, that's a terrible interview.
It's just repeating the same question over and over again and it has been answered already.
 
Speaking of, did you read the other article about the kid who won his cube-tapping thing?
 
1:59 PM
Yeah.
 

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