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9:00 PM
@AhmedDaou It's not considered bad practice by all of the developer world, it's a pretty heavily discussed thing.
 
lol
 
you press tab and then the editor converts the tab to spaces.
 
@jPlatte only the bad part considers it acceptable to use tabs
 
how do you set that up
im happy with tabs tho
 
@AhmedDaou use a non shit editor vOv
 
9:00 PM
but i want to do like every one does
 
oh wow
you have 21k rep
 
@AhmedDaou that's not a very good reason to do anything, except drugs
 
talk about destroying my initial expectations
 
@Rapptz ... that can't be farmed?
 
@AhmedDaou depends on the editor
 
9:01 PM
Clicking 'settings' is hard
 
@Rapptz tab does untab. I like the idea.
 
@Rapptz I have a cracking pair of tits
 
hmrh
 
9:02 PM
@AhmedDaou Yes. It's a bad habit to rely on the IDE to do it for you.
 
@StackedCrooked so what is the good habit
 
Pressing space four times.
 
I am procrastinating to avoid writing my first android app
 
And keeping it in the clipboard.
 
the guys said only moron do this
 
9:03 PM
warning: you're being trolled
 
@Rapptz for some reason never bothered to make that default... I've been enabling it for every file all this time :\
@Rapptz screw you, I'm serious
 
I always have a comment /* */ in each file containing the space which I can then copy so I don't need to type them again each time.
 
tabs are actively awkward to work with
 
I'm talking about Stacked.
 
@thecoshman mind to tell me why?
 
9:04 PM
four spaces are always four spaces... unless you fuck around with unicode shit
 
Are you drunk already?
 
@StackedCrooked hope you are not serious bro
 
@Rapptz no... tipsy... one of those days :\
 
also friendly reminder that spaces vs tabs is B A N N E D
 
@thecoshman ...so?
 
9:05 PM
And in Vim's it's super convenient to use 4a <Esc>.
 
@Rapptz Okay
 
@jPlatte ok, why do you use indentation?
 
@Rapptz Tabs still suck.
 
@Rapptz sure, but telling people that they should use spaces is a civic right!
 
@thecoshman Apparently we're not allowed to discuss here.
 
9:06 PM
@jPlatte We used to have a special bin to send the messages to. It's frozen now :(
 
@thecoshman For nesting if statements.
 
@StackedCrooked ... that's a compelling reason to use them
 
Now, let's keep things decent.
 
@jPlatte bitch please... oh wait, Rapptz does have owner power
 
...
 
9:07 PM
@StackedCrooked so you are saying... don't slip the cock out?
 
what else is banned?
are singletons banned
 
@Rapptz I think it's testament to how we can behave.
 
So Windows keeps on telling me to activate it...
Even after I entered the serial and it says it is valid.
 
@Pris If you are gonna use singletons then at least bother to implement the double checked locking pattern.
 
9:09 PM
@Rapptz lol
@EtiennedeMartel we can?
 
Activation is an online verification of the key
 
/pulls trousers up
 
The chatroom is dead because it's been too long since we moved messages to it.
Which means it's been a while since we've talked about tabs vs spaces.
 
It's brought up every so often
 
9:10 PM
@StackedCrooked double checked is considered to week these days, you must use tripple checked
 
but it was never as bad as that one time
 
@EtiennedeMartel since we moved shit there
 
@thecoshman Now, that would be silly.
 
@CatPlusPlus Looks cool.
 
9:11 PM
@StackedCrooked how else you going to protect the shhh key?
 
@Rapptz It's never done seriously, I think.
 
@thecoshman Was the "week" and "days" pun intentional?
 
So I saw this syntax for an initializer C::C(size_t size):begin(new int[size]()){}
 
There is a .horse TLD
 
@Nooble I spotted it (belive it or not) but carred not to correct it
 
9:12 PM
@thecoshman With a ProtectorAgent.
 
What does the extra parenthesis do?
 
@CatPlusPlus I want 'hunglikea.horse'
 
Probably taken
 
@StackedCrooked that's over kill man
 
user1804599
loungecpp.horse
 
9:12 PM
apparently not :P
 
> hunglikea.horse has been registered
clever
 
It doesn't need to have a HTTP server listening to be registered you know
 
user1804599
Your mother is hung like a horse.
 
stup reading :|
 
@райтфолд My mother is a koala.
 
9:13 PM
@thecoshman You need to learn design. Get the chick book.
 
lmao
 
@StackedCrooked I keep getting stuck between the flaps
 
MLM
Is there some nice syntactic sugar to declare an inline anonymous array to pass into a function? coliru.stacked-crooked.com/a/984f46c7752739e1
 
Oh my grieving mother, you fucks are useless.
 
oooooh, it's burzum not buzrum
 
9:15 PM
[master (root-commit) 6fe1e71] Initial commit
 20 files changed, 4912 insertions(+)
:v
 
ergh... 'play' 'play now' <-- wtf is this shit!
 
@CaptainGiraffe Are you talking about the question you asked about a minute ago that wasn't answered?
 
@Rapptz how often do you commit
 
MLM
@райтфолд A way without using a Vector?
 
9:16 PM
every change
this is just the initial one
 
user1804599
If you don't use std::vector then please leave the chat room.
 
@jPlatte No of course not. That was more of a general statement.
 
@MLM Yeah that's possible, but only with a C++11-compatible compiler (with the corresponding flag, in most situations)
 
MLM
I am running on a microcontroller so dynamically sized objects isn't great
 
@CaptainGiraffe Okay. Though I can answer that question by just telling you to search for "C++ initializer list" in your favorite search engine.
 
9:17 PM
@jPlatte is avatar a picture of you?
@MLM sure they are!
@CaptainGiraffe try anal
 
@jPlatte That doesnt fit the grammar though.
 
@thecoshman Yeah, why?
@CaptainGiraffe What do you mean?
 
@EtiennedeMartel I'm currently reading that book. Right now I realized how the first chapter on "relativity" applies to me when choosing a second-hand book from amazon.
 
@jPlatte oh I was just going to make adhominan arguments was all
 
@StackedCrooked It's a great book.
 
9:18 PM
@MLM No.
 
the heater! it does nothing! /swigs more cold beer
 
initialiser list uses { and }
 
@thecoshman What's "adhominan"? (not a native speaker, dict.cc doesn't know that word)
 
@jPlatte hubt: I can't spell for fuck and am drinking
welcome to the party :D
 
@EtiennedeMartel Yep. Kinda essential reading (at least for me).
 
9:20 PM
ad hominem
also lol @ book
 
@CaptainGiraffe I think you're referring to a different sort of initializer list.
 
@Rapptz you can be an hominem all you like!
 
Maybe the thing I'm talking about is actually called "constructor initializer list" or something like that
 
it's called initialisation list
 
Oh okay
 
9:21 PM
@jPlatte std::initiali.. bubub
 
@jPlatte 'curly' races are for uniform initialisers... which is magical stuff
is uniform initialisers just to help us type less? or do they actually solve any problems?
 
Lol, the german translation for "ad hominem" on dict.cc is "ad hominem"
 
Did anyone see the sample?
 
woah... just burped and for a breif moment had perfect clarity... I didn't like it
 
I mean, it's obviously latin, but I want to know what it's supposed to mean...! :D
 
9:22 PM
@CaptainGiraffe of what?
 
new int[123]()
 
== §English == Wikipedia === §Etymology === Shortened from the Latin expression argumentum ad hominem, argument at the person. From argumentum (meaning "argument") + ad (meaning "to" or "at") + hominem, the accusative singular of homo (meaning "man"). It can also mean attacking the messenger. === §Noun === ad hominem (plural ad hominems) A fallacious objection to an argument or factual claim by appealing to a characteristic or belief of the person making the argument or claim, rather than by addressing the substance of the argument or producing evidence against the claim; an attempt t...
 
@jPlatte personal attacks to try to make an argument
 
Thanks @Rapptz, found it on another (german) site too now
And thanks for being so incredibly nice to me, @thecoshman
 
Xeo
Hallo.
 
9:23 PM
@CaptainGiraffe ew. std::vector<int>
 
@jPlatte "You're a total cunt therefore you are wrong."
 
> drinking
> generally a bit of a dick anyway
 
@EtiennedeMartel Also came to realize that the price I paid for my current computer was mentally justified by comparing it with the price of my first PC back in 1999.
 
> not a happy drunk tonight
 
@thecoshman I was looking at it not writing it
 
9:24 PM
@CaptainGiraffe that's tantermount to child porn ... is this going too far?
 
Hm, I can't answer myself :>
 
@StackedCrooked lol, that's a crate way to justify stuff
 
I saw you can quote stuff, but I don't know how
 
@jPlatte >
 
Anyway, @thecoshman: I'm not actually that pissed ;)
 
9:25 PM
at the start of stuff
 
Though it may have sounded like that
 
@jPlatte I don't think I am either
 
@StackedCrooked Not inherently irrational.
 
@jPlatte wouldn't blame you
 
@thecoshman No idea, this is c++ grammar
 
9:26 PM
any way, I Was going to make refernces to your overly cheery face
 
@thecoshman You sounded pretty serious about tabs vs spaces though ^^
 
@jPlatte that I am
 
would you two get a room
 
@StackedCrooked Amazon wouldn't even try to sell me the Kindle edition. Wankers.
 
@thecoshman Would we?
 
9:27 PM
@jPlatte would we what?
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit ^
 
@Rapptz Well, I probably wouldn't change my choice now that I know. But it does confirm how current decisions are anchored by the first one.
 
Damn it, I really need to know how to quote stuff
 
Still not inherently irrational lol
 
Does somebody care to tell me?
 
9:28 PM
@Puppy Second hand books are often a good deal. Unless the book is out of print. Then the prices sky-rocket.
 
@Rapptz How come?
 
It's so unfair :(
 
@jPlatte I told you, start with >
 
dude
are you suggesting that I should buy dead tree?
 
there;s a doubly do for help
 
9:28 PM
Ooooh
 
@Puppy so brutal
 
@EtiennedeMartel How is being influenced by your first decision inherently irrational? What if your first decision failed and you take that into consideration? Is it irrational to want to do things differently?
 
@Puppy I want to have a physical copy of the classics. It's mostly for decoration. The books that I actually read I buy for kindle.
 
@thecoshman I didn't read that message before you changed it to only ">", then I thought you just meant to delete it or something and didn't look into what you replied to
 
@jPlatte it's cool bro
 
9:30 PM
@StackedCrooked Well, different people have different tastes in decoration I guess. Perosnally I prefer the glass/steel/chrome style.
 
Learning and comparing from previous decisions is being adaptive, not irrational.
 
Hey, it's cheaper than a $800 vase!
 
I like too many different styles :\
 
true.
I wonder if it's possible to purchase carbon fibre shoes?
 
and I want to be able to do full on everything in each
 
9:30 PM
I pulled a strawman :P
 
@Puppy sure
 
this is my fourth pair of shoes since I moved to Bristol
 
Just tried out the Atom Editor vim plugin, it's still crap :/
 
perhaps it's time to invest in something more heavy-duty.
 
@Rapptz It is irrational if you always prefer to repeat your original decision even if not doing so is a better choice.
 
9:32 PM
@Rapptz But the prices of current hardware no longer hold a relation with the price of 16 years ago.
 
@Puppy new rocks
 
@EtiennedeMartel "not inherently irrational"
 
seriously, those fuckers last
 
@thecoshman Well, these are brand-new and I tried to pick something a bit tougher this time
 
It can be irrational (a lot of things can) but there's no good blanket statement for these things.
 
9:33 PM
@EtiennedeMartel define 'better'
 
but if they fail then I might look at buying something tougher
 
@StackedCrooked you're like an order of magnitude out of date
@Puppy jus get New Rocks now
 
those look more like dominatrix high heels than tough shoes
 
@StackedCrooked It doesn't really confirm anything.
 
@Puppy also, im heading over Tueday for a week, want meet up
@Puppy try looking at the non girl ones
 
9:34 PM
next week?
 
@Puppy no, 3100
ofc next fucking week
 
then sure
 
else I would have given you a date
 
I could do Thursday or Friday
 
vOv sure
you think after your work or you off any way?
speaking of meet ups, who's sorted for London so far?
 
Xeo
9:38 PM
oh, I should do that soon, shouldn't I
 
@Rapptz Lol, this wouldn't be the lounge if a discussion wouldn't ensue about whether stuff is "inherently irrational" or not. I just think good to be aware of the psychological factors that influence decision making.
 
Xeo
I got sleep place covered, but I haven't booked the flight yet
 
@Xeo :\ me too
 
@StackedCrooked you coming this time?
 
9:39 PM
I should.
 
@StackedCrooked That's fine.
 
Xeo
I think I'll go with 6th to 14th or something.
question is, where do I book the flight.
 
@Xeo o_0 but that means leaving on the Sunday
 
Xeo
ye
 
Xeo
9:40 PM
twas like that last time too :P
 
you cray ctay
 
Xeo
no wait, last time I left on Monday, didn't I
 
@Xeo not sur... AFAIK no one left on the Sunday
hash tag memory of a dead fish
 
I wonder if a trip to London should be done by train or plane.
 
@StackedCrooked mechanical eagle
 
9:41 PM
train probably
 
Or even boat.
 
@StackedCrooked ooh... that could work
 
Boat would not bring me to london though.
Train goes directly to the center of London.
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit The problem with that is that the punchline is bigger than the setup, so you end up reading the joke in reverse, which kinda ruins it.
 
Xeo
6.5-7.5h train ride, if I can trust bahn.de ...
 
9:43 PM
Probably should pick train. Least hassle probably.
Direct connection from Brussels to London in 2:40.
 
@StackedCrooked that's a serious trip though
 
Xeo
and I can't book directly on bahn.de. ugh.
@StackedCrooked that's nice
 
@Xeo barn de herps :P
 
Xeo
Plane's prolly less hassle for me...
 
@StackedCrooked o_0 you are closer to London than me
 
9:44 PM
Maybe I could meet up with the Germans in Brussels and go to London together from there on.
Ah well.
 
@EtiennedeMartel I read things top-to-bottom not big-to-small
 
For those of you unfortunate enough to be doing android dev, should I just use the google stuff for my first hello world app or are there any better resources to start out with?
 
Xeo
> Ab 59 Euro über Brüssel nach London
hmmm
 
Xeo
lessee if they actually have an offer available
 
9:45 PM
lol, fucking prices of trains compare to flying, fuck that waste of a day
 
@Xeo lol I just read 115 EUR.
 
that said, if I don't sort this out it'll be hella expensive
and I need to sort out where to sleep
oh oh gigs
 
Xeo
hahaha, bahn.de can't tell me anything about my trip back, yet - because it's more than 3 months into the futue (1 or 2 days)
@StackedCrooked 59 per trip
so 118 total
 
:O
SOAD TOUR!
 
@CatPlusPlus This is damn cool!
 
9:48 PM
@thecoshman I thought they were dead.
 
@EtiennedeMartel that word for not really borken up
 
Xeo
so, if I start on the 6th at 10am, I'll be in "London S Pancras Int" (whereever exactly that is) in 6.5 hours, via Brussel.
 
> In an interview with Rolling Stone on January 8, 2015, Tankian said that the band may consider recording a new album after they finish the Wake Up The Souls tour.
Well, shit.
 
Xeo
So @StackedCrooked, on what day did you plan to go?
 
9:50 PM
Dunno yet.
On a Saturday in June I suppose.
 
Interestingly, their only show in Canada will be at the Rockfest.
 
Or Friday.
 
user1804599
Yay I did a pull request.
 
do I do it :o
lol, recaptach for it "family days out"
 
@thecoshman Is there a basic outline of the plan?
 
9:51 PM
what if github gave out swag to people who do a certain amount of pull requests on repos that aren't theirs
 
welp, that's that, sold out
 
Or is just "London" the plan? :)
 
Xeo
@StackedCrooked tis would be my connection on the 6th
 
go to london... have fun...
 
@Xeo Looks good.
 
Xeo
9:52 PM
Now I just need to wait a bit and see for the trip back
I think I can see that on... Sunday
or something
stupid 3-months-in-advance limitation
 
You can make a the query for this month. The hours will be the same, or at least comparable.
 
Xeo
I guess I should also compare that bahn price with booking a flight there and back
 
Bah. I deleted an executable while it was running in a screen session. Now, unrelated, I want to gcore the process to debug something. I have rebuilt the executable, but gcore seems not to accept the replaced file. It knows the original file was deleted and won't let me dump core. Are there any workarounds?
 
Xeo
@StackedCrooked One month earlier, and the time for the trip there is the same - there's only one train running on Saturday, it seems
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Undelete the original file.
 
9:54 PM
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Time machine.
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Suicide.
 
CentOS 6.6 btw
 
My condolences.
 
RIP
 
FreeBSD's gcore has an executable argument which looks promising, but that's of no use to me. Linux's gcore does not have any such argument.
 
9:56 PM
which of y'all never been london before then?
 
I didn't know CentOS was actively used
 
Xeo
@StackedCrooked Ugh. Every trip back will either be at 59eur with 12.5h thanks to being overnight, or 89 for the 6h trip. :s
 
@Rapptz is this for reals condolences?
 
Not really.
 
user1804599
user=> (.toLowerCase "I")
"i"
user=> (Locale/setDefault (Locale. "tr"))
nil
user=> (.toLowerCase "I")
"ı"
 
user1804599
9:57 PM
hehehe
 
Xeo
there's one that's 69 for the 6h trip, but that's only on a Wednesday... so I really can't say for sure until Sunday or sometime next week, when I can see the real connections
 
@Rapptz then fuck him
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit What error does it give you?
 
sbi
Look. You guys discuss God, and a puppy Sir pterry dies. :( As the cat said: a sad year indeed.
 
Xeo
9:58 PM
sup ape
 
@sbi evening sir
 
sbi
@Xeo Nothing's up. It's down. :(
 
@sbi huh... so misery does breed company :\
sdown?
 
sbi
7 hours ago, by jalf
RIP Terry Pratchett :(
 
pure thy hart
@sbi indeed
 

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