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1:00 PM
They explore your colon to see if everything is ok
 
I bet there's a lot of shit to be found.
 
I'd rather have my semicolon explored instead
 
Not really
 
@Jefery sounds shitty
 
You have to drink 4 liters of stuff that makes it all empty and clean
 
1:00 PM
semicolonoscopy, I like it
 
And it's a good way to prevent colon cancer. Like, they can just remove a few small things, it does nothing to you, and you've avoided cancer.
 
Yeah, they are polyps
It's not exactly cancer
 
I was ooking for the word :p
 
Oh what a nice conversation
 
Some types of polyps may evolve into tumors and then cancer, but it's rare
 
1:02 PM
It can easily degenerate into cancer though.
 
Many polyps can stay undetected for years and never devolve into anything
The benign ones I mean
 
It depends on people. I know that it tends to evolve into tumors in my family so I'll for sure need to have some removed.
 
But they remove them all anyway, to do a biopsy on them
I had none
Too young I guess
The guy before me had 2 or 3 removed.
 
I think they told me I should begin colonoscopies near ~40.
 
Yeah
 
1:04 PM
How come you had one so early?
 
40-50 is the age usually
Because I have like a cut basically at the end of the anus that is probably caused by me being constipated that keeps reopening every once in a while and like give me a drop of blood or two while pooping.
 
yikes, sounds unpleasant
 
And they told me that if it reopened I would have to check if the cause of being constipated is something else in the colon.
Apparently it's just me being constipated and being not very phisically active.
 
Could also be the type of food you eat, no?
 
1:07 PM
It's nothing really. You only notice it on the igenic paper and it's literally just 1 small drop of blood. Then it closes itself up again.
@TonyTheLion I have always had a pretty good diet.
 
@Jefery ah ok
 
I used to drink a lot, and since I stopped my feces are much nicer and less painful.
So my guess is that it was the alcohol.
Things are improving now, slowly.
 
makes sense
 
Thankfully alcohol stopped being interesting to me, so I don't mind not drinking any.
 
I never found alcohol that interesting
 
1:09 PM
It's a good social lubrificant
 
@Jefery can't you get blood poisoning from wounds near the anus though?
 
I used to drink a lot (2-3 glasses of wine, superalcoholics like vodka, rum and tequila) like 3 times a week.
 
That is a lot
 
I made a lot friends during that period :P
But yeah, that was bad.
 
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1:11 PM
Just wore an Oculus VR device.
 
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Fucking awesome.
 
@TonyTheLion Oh... his Robert Harvey stunt from last night? RIP
 
@orlp Blood poisoning?
 
:( stereoscopic 3d doesn't work for me
 
Not that I know of. The doctor never mentioned anything about it.
 
1:11 PM
@Elyse I tried one a few years back, the roller coaster demo made me feel sick
 
@Jefery when feces enter your blood stream
 
@Borgleader Yes
 
@orlp I guess that makes sense.
 
I always clean the wound immediately after each defecation though.
 
1:13 PM
@Elyse Did you invent an Oculus VR DSL yet?
 
Also it happens like 2 times a month.
Not every time
 
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@fredoverflow lol
 
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@TonyTheLion I have a fear of heights and I decided to look downwards in the canyon scene.
 
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It was scary as fuck.
 
Yea that Oculus Rift isn't for me
 
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1:15 PM
It was so exciting. :D
 
are there water proof oculus rifts yet?
swimming through space sounds cool
 
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I was on the Moon today!
 
@Elyse let's be real here
you weren't alone on the moon
cough hentai babes cough
 
@Elyse Did you see the flagpole?
 
Ell
@Elyse oh nice
 
1:26 PM
@orlp Sounds like an interesting way to drown.
 
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@fredoverflow I don't know anymore.
 
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But I saw the probe.
 
@Morwenn I foresee the future
 
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And cinema seats.
 
we will have VR for our eyes, taste and smell
we will all be swimming around in tanks of our own piss/poop
it's the future - don't resist it
 
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1:27 PM
In philosophy, the brain in a vat (alternately known as brain in a jar) is a scenario used in a variety of thought experiments intended to draw out certain features of our ideas of knowledge, reality, truth, mind, consciousness and meaning. It is an updated version of René Descartes' Evil Demon thought experiment originated by Hilary Putnam. Common to many science fiction stories, it outlines a scenario in which a mad scientist, machine, or other entity might remove a person's brain from the body, suspend it in a vat of life-sustaining liquid, and connect its neurons by wires to a supercomputer...
 
@TonyTheLion Motion sickness?
 
@Elyse what about
a brain in a vat in a vat
vatception
 
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That's quite pointless.
 
@Borgleader must be, though real roller coasters don't make me sick
 
@Ven Thank you very much.
 
1:29 PM
@Borgleader Awwww <3
 
@TonyTheLion sums up the meta posts nicely
 
@TonyTheLion Apparenty, you can find a decent number of porn videos under the mistletoe.
Were they made to promote patriarchy too?
 
@TonyTheLion Awesome
 
@Morwenn Oh my.
@Morwenn Not sure
 
1:36 PM
@TonyTheLion lol
 
@Morwenn Are you some kind of pr0nxpert?
 
@Rerito Search engines are.
 
Yeaaah, right :D
 
@TonyTheLion <3
 
@TonyTheLion <3
 
1:40 PM
:D
 
So much work. Help.
 
hire us
 
@Mr.kbok Speaking of that, how's the whole borders closed business going?
 
@Mr.kbok No, I think he needs the work done.
 
@TonyTheLion ahahah :D
 
1:55 PM
@MartinJames I always forget that part.
@ElimGarak They're not closed but still watched AFAIK
 
> In Toraja, it’s customary to feed one’s deceased relative every day, and to keep the embalmed corpse tucked cozily inside one’s bedroom
I'm not going there
 
@ElimGarak They only stayed closed for a few hours I think. Now there's an army of cops at each crossing but you can go through.
 
yawn morning
 
work time
@MadaraUchiha mornin'
 
@TonyTheLion How do you feed a dead body?
 
1:57 PM
@MadaraUchiha Mornin'...?
 
@ElimGarak donno, I guess its more a ritual thing
 
Anyway, closing borders for such an event isn't cool. I won't achieve anything and will only make the country look more and more like some kind of dictature. And they are going to adopt even more laws like that...
 
@JNat Fancy seeing you in the lounge. Sup o/
 
\o
 
@Morwenn It just means the attackers are winning.
Because thats what they want... slowly eroding our freedoms
 
1:58 PM
Yeah, they're doing their work for them.
 
@TonyTheLion Nobody's winning. But democracy sure is losing.
 
Is that a real mod, or is it just fantasy, (or a puppet)?
 
@MartinJames They're blue.
 
@MartinJames You're imagining everything.
 
1:59 PM
And there was all that bullshit: "They're not going to change the way we live our lives."
 
@Morwenn Well, democracy is what the attackers want to destroy.
 
Hi, sir, want to buy some milk? Lift up your shirt.
 
By the way @JNat, nice picture, did you choose the blue one on purpose? :D
 
@TonyTheLion Not sure what it will achieve.
 
(I know the prerequisites of me joining this room is not casting Infinite Tsukuyomi... but I kind of did that a long time ago, sorry :/)
 
2:00 PM
@Mr.kbok You mean 'cause my name is in blue too?
 
yeah
I know it's the regular color, don't think too much of it :)
 
No, I had this avatar since before I was a mod on anime
 
@Mr.kbok @JNat's profile picture hasn't changed since I first saw him when Anime & Manga entered private beta.
 
@MadaraUchiha It changed for a little while
 
@Mr.kbok Has there not been one mod-impersonation already? Was that puppet not blue?
 
2:00 PM
to the red one
 
and then back
 
wagen
 
@JNat Right
 
how can I change the color of my nick?
 
2:01 PM
@JohannesSchaub-litb be a mod
 
By applying for the SO secret police
 
@JohannesSchaub-litb You can get elected a mod
 
@JohannesSchaub-litb user CSS
 
@ElimGarak Not so secret
@Abyx The only reasonable answer.
 
ALL THIS BLUE
 
2:02 PM
@Abyx can you please point me to a tutorial?
 
@ElimGarak He can't - rap sheet not long enough.
 
@JohannesSchaub-litb Do you know CSS?
 
@MadaraUchiha yes
 
@JohannesSchaub-litb Have a look at extensions like Stylish
 
it'S cross site scripting
 
2:02 PM
I'm blue da da di da da da
 
@TonyTheLion If I were green I would die...
 
lol, chat is so fractured on my end
 
is there a unicode character to change the color?
 
why are there so many blueboys here
 
2:04 PM
I got 'dem T'usday af'noon suspended blues..
 
are we being racially profiled
 
just plonk everything blue unless it says BoltClock
 
protecting us from bad words I guess
 
@Prismatic follow the transcript
 
@milleniumbug Nah I don't care that much :p
 
2:05 PM
> You forgot the part when the whole body moves to India
lol
 
@JohannesSchaub-litb div.user-1234 .username
 
most mods usually first want to write some messages with blue nicks before they brag with their powers
@Abyx haha that would seem to be a necessary but not a sufficient piece of code for all users to see my nick in blue
 
@JohannesSchaub-litb I that read wrong.
 
bluetags oppressing whitetags
someone start a twitter hashtag
 
Is there any hope of someday having an equivalent of CRAN of CTAN for C++?
It would be pretty cool
 
2:07 PM
@VillasV if you talk to MS to adopt Itanium ABI, maybe :p
or do you mean sourcecode C++ stuff
 
@VillasV CCAN?
 
@Prismatic #BlueLivesMatter
 
Isn't this what biicode tried to do and failed
 
2:09 PM
Everything will fail with C++
C++ is fail
 
@Mr.kbok there you go
 
@Prismatic lol exactly my thoughts
 
@JNat check your fridge.
 
@JohannesSchaub-litb well, it could have at least a standardized install-build process even if it didn't had a common ABI
 
good luck with that
 
2:11 PM
@MadaraUchiha I'm out of milk. Thanks!
 
@milleniumbug Will we ever get to the point where people just collectively get fed up with package management in c and c++? Maybe the age of magic transpilers?
 
@Prismatic preprocessor macros will ruin everything
 
Just make your compiler #include from the web.
#include "http://whatever.org/boost/iterators.hpp"
 
preprocess your C++ code with PHP and then <?php include("http://whatever.org/boost/iterators.hpp"); ?>
doesn't solve the problem of binary artifacts and dozens of build systems
 
@milleniumbug I think I just threw up a little in my mouth
 
2:13 PM
IIRC the standard doesn't mandate where the includes come from, so including from the web would be standard-compliant.
 
@Prismatic transpiler alert @SheepPlusPlus
 
@Morwenn best terrible idea ever
 
One day there'll be a language that isn't bad and everyone will run a transpiler on it that will magically transform the source code into the target language you'll see
 
@Morwenn You could totally use uris somewhere and cache them locally
 
So many smurfs
 
2:14 PM
@Prismatic I think you're describing JavaScript
 
xpile dev/boost dev/boost_not_cplus_plus
 
> a language that isn't bad
 
@Morwenn was just gonna say this
 
@Morwenn That's an oxymoron at best, and you know it.
 
Okay, then
> a language that isn't horrible
 
2:15 PM
I'm oxymoronic too.
 
@MadaraUchiha I'm a PHP/C++ programmer
 
(I know I'm getting into a super religious discussion here)
 
I am kind of a C++ God
 
@Prismatic JavaScript isn't that horrible
 
@MadaraUchiha Its fine for scripting
 
2:16 PM
JSON is good enough, but we could do without the language around it.
 
There are good features and bad features and horrible features like any other language
 
can't resist reposting this
Jul 28 at 1:26, by milleniumbug
PHP and JS are somewhat similar except the problems of PHP aren't that problematic in JS since you just dump the code to the client and it's his problem now
 
But JavaScript has some really clever ideas in it.
 
such as
 
I just discovered that I'm a moron because I like to define MyClass(const MyClass *ptr) and that sucks and binds to rvalues and I never put the explicit keyword on it and they should fire me ASAP
++IKR
 
2:17 PM
(genuine inquiry, Im not going to brush off your answer)
 
@Prismatic Prototypal inheritance, closures
Dynamic objects
Admittedly, there are bad parts in it as well
 
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One nice thing about JavaScript is that they are willing to replace the bad parts.
 
@Lalaland Yes, that's what really hooked me up.
 
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ES6 pretty much completely replaces old keywords with better equivalents.
 
ES2015 fixed a lot of things
 
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2:19 PM
(Which I think is hilarious, but effective)
 
A lot of people look at JavaScript and see DOM (the JavaScript<->browser interface)
 
@MadaraUchiha Javascript is better than Perl.... mind you anything is better than Perl.
 
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var -> let, function -> =>, prototype -> class (With of course a lot of caveats for each of those, but in general you can avoid using the former "feature" when you use the latter)
 
@Mgetz /cc @Elyse
 
@Mgetz I find JavaScript better than PHP and Java for many things I do.
 
2:21 PM
@MadaraUchiha it's easy to race to the bottom, it's much harder to race to the top
 
Java makes everything hard, except for my...
Nah, it's only yet another case of me not liking Java.
 
@Mgetz What is the top in your opinion?
 
@MadaraUchiha don't honestly know, it really depends on the use case.
 
(Wow, my connection is bad)
@Mgetz Right
PHP's prime use case is for trivial-ish websites
 
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@MadaraUchiha One thing that JavaScript does poorly is it's lack of static typing.
 
2:23 PM
@MadaraUchiha PHP's prime use case is as a security hole
 
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Static typing can be very useful for larger projects.
 
@Lalaland I actually see that as an advantage, not a disadvantage.
 
The lack of static typing isn't nearly as bad as the wtf type coercions.
 
^
 
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@Morwenn The trick for that is to use === and !==
 
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2:24 PM
And then have a linter which bans == and !=.
 
@Lalaland It's not limited to comparison.
 
1. Static code analysis gets you 80% of the way there
 
@MadaraUchiha they said that about C too... ;p
 
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Comparison is when you run into most of the practical issues in my experience.
 
@Prismatic I found 0 packages for every query
 
2:25 PM
Yeah, but the fact that you have to perform static analysis to get your code right is already a sign that there's a problem (and it's also true for C++).
 
@Morwenn I dont have the link anymore but I remember seeing a funny post about all the weird behavior PHP has (ok not all but a bunch of them).
 
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PHP has a lot of funny behavior with strings and number comparisons.
 
@Borgleader perhaps related to... destroyallsoftware.com/talks/wat
 
@Borgleader That one? :p
 
2. If you really need it, TypeScript compiles to JavaScript and offers static typing and type safety.
 
2:26 PM
Did you guys see the new batman v supes trailer
 
@Morwenn No arguments there. The coercions are a big WTF. But that's why I avoid them altogether, you can absolutely do that.
Goddamn connection
 
@Morwenn PHP not JS
 
@MadaraUchiha my main issue with typescript is that I can't use it on various CMSs very easy
 
Did some benchmarking on the cost of common includes. Here's some results.
 
@Mgetz The really hard bugs, the one that keep me up at nights and that are the really hard to fix, they aren't type bugs.
 
2:27 PM
@Borgleader There's also a PHP article on the site.
 
@Mgetz Hmm?
How so?
TypeScript merely requires a build step
There's also a runtime but you really don't want to use that...
 
@MadaraUchiha ex: visualforce from salesforce requires that I statically upload the JS
I don't have an option to build it unless I do that manually
 
@Mgetz Great, build it on your build server and deploy the result from there.
 
major pain in the arse
 
2:28 PM
@MadaraUchiha easier said than done when working in a client's org
 
@StackedCrooked Where are <iterator> and <utility>? :o
 
@Morwenn Ah, I dont recall this website so I dont think that was it.
oh well
 
@Mgetz Well, you can't really blame that on TypeScript then :)
 
@MadaraUchiha I don't, it's just me griping about the internet
 
@Morwenn forgot
 
2:31 PM
@Mgetz Most modern libraries in JavaScript today require some sort of a build step.
If only to concat and minify the resulting file so that there are less bytes over the wire.
 
@StackedCrooked I was thinking about it because std::swap moved from <algorithm> to <utility>, so it would be interesting to know what it buys.
 
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@Prismatic That just seems like a mess.
 
And there's a proposal to move std::iter_swap from <algorithm> to <iterator> too.
 
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You can't keep on adding random characters to film and hope it will work.
 
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I just wish they had done the movie more in the style of The Metropolitan Man.
 
2:36 PM
@StackedCrooked whoa, 3s for thread??
 
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F# sucks.
 
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let id = fun x -> x

let answer = id 42
 
@Prismatic teenage wrestler turtles
 
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id now has type int -> int.
 
2:38 PM
I'm starting to have fun with Java
 
@Elyse that's because OCaml has no function overloading
 
Am I sick? Am I dying?
 
@StackedCrooked ♥
 
@Mr.kbok To be fair I should repeat the timing a few times and only report the fastest one.
 
2:40 PM
So basically, moving std::swap to <utility> was really worth it.
 
Seems so :)
 
I'm surprised that <type_traits> is so fast though. The header is far from being empty.
 
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Nice.
 
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Out of beta.
 
2:42 PM
I like boost/thread.hpp without include guards added multiple times, possibly recursively
 
@Morwenn It's 2051 lines after preprocessing.
 
@Elyse It's been out of beta for months, but it only got its new design a few days ago :p
 
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ok :P
 
@StackedCrooked But <iosfwd> shouldn't be more than 200 lines.
 
lol Boost.Thread vs std::thread
 
2:47 PM
Boost shared_ptr vs. make_shared is surprising too.
 
g++ -E iosfwd.cpp -std=c++11 | wc -l
1226
 
:o
By the way, the size of your playground is impressive.
 
It's full of crap. Don't look :)
 
is there any performance difference between Boost.Thread and std::thread? I'm new at both.
 
I won't, but it means that you've experimented with lots of things :p
 
2:49 PM
It used it pre-coliru.
 
@Morwenn holy shit
 
@bitcode Use std::thread
 
@Mr.kbok What?
 
> 5 years ago
wow
 
@набиячлэвэлиь Ok. Thanks. The way you said made it look like Boost.Thread is horrible.
 
2:51 PM
@bitcode It's not, but one should use std::thread
 
@Morwenn it is big indeed
 
@bitcode Boost.Thread is more complete but use std::thread if you can.
 
@Morwenn Ok. today was the first time ever I wrote a program with multiple threads and I was really surprised with how simple std::thread is
 
@bitcode It has some quirks though.
 
2:59 PM
@milleniumbug or something in an object wut
 

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