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@CaptainGiraffe :D
@LucDanton How is Line 5 and 6 possible? What are they called? Namespace class operator overloading function definition?
Might play it next Monday.
Been searching on SO for a long while, and still can't get relevant results.
I mean, this particular issue should be asked plenty of times...
Cool
you know (spot the funsie)
I think I'll got to sleep after all
@CaptainGiraffe Association:
I'm designing a game with a friend and he says we can take some ideas from it so I really want to play it.
@tom_mai78101 it's not an overload
@tom_mai78101 Those lines are a definition of the operator that is declared (but not yet defined) in the class definition.
@LucDanton Ah,
00:03
@sehe She died on a New years Eve from a burning cigarette.
@BartekBanachewicz Ok...
That's a bit apt seeing all the pictures :/
Barenboim isn't so bad as a conductor though. youtube.com/watch?v=YIB03fS179s
Agreed. I'm not too sure that he's up there, but (a) I'm never sure with conductors. I tend to blame the orchestra (b) Barenboim sure has a knack of engaging his musicians and audience alike
I can conduct 4'33" really well.
00:07
@R.MartinhoFernandes shouldnt that be 6'9"?
@R.MartinhoFernandes 99% of conducting happens during practice though. If he's done a good job during practice, he's almost superfluous during the actual performance.
4′33″ (pronounced "Four minutes, thirty-three seconds" or just "Four thirty-three") is a three-movement composition by American experimental composer John Cage (1912–1992). It was composed in 1952, for any instrument or combination of instruments, and the score instructs the performer(s) not to play their instrument(s) during the entire duration of the piece throughout the three movements. The piece purports to consist of the sounds of the environment that the listeners hear while it is performed, although it is commonly perceived as "four minutes thirty-three seconds of silence". The title of...
@Borgleader
@R.MartinhoFernandes Dont mind me, I didn't read the conversation and assumed that was a height measurement :P
@JerryCoffin Tell that to guest conductors who get only 1/2 rehearsals before first performance in the week. It's all about everyone being prepared and getting together at the right moment, if you ask me
00:10
Gil Shaham is > than *. youtube.com/watch?v=bRkS0fT98bU
He's pretty underrated yes
Of course, for chef conductors, this will be more traditional: the "standard situation" of being very well-attuned to each other; it all accumulates
@sehe Certainly much more up to the musicians in that case (hmm....if I keep stating the obvious like that, I may have to starting working on using one of those nonexistent English accents).
Sorry. I basically made you do it
@JerryCoffin Nah, you'll just have to rename to Borgleader ;)
@Borgleader I thinking more of something about racing in orbit...
00:13
hah, shots fired
@Borgleader If were actually going to fire shots, I'd do quite a bit more than that.
I'm a sentimental mofo youtube.com/… and this is just ridiculous youtube.com/…
Hmm...that seems to have put a damper on things all of a sudden.
00:40
@CaptainGiraffe try this youtube.com/watch?v=ogBTvf-zg58
@JerryCoffin I'm pretty sure it being Saturday Night has more to do with it
I wish the "challenges" werent an exact repeat of the code samples in the video =/
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And all the other guides, of course.
Talking about directing...anyone familiar with Virtual Choir?
Hello folks
@AlexM. fancy seeing you here
00:47
@Borgleader Could be. Then again, it could be people disappearing for twenty minutes at a time to listen to violin concertos and such... :-) Although the recording quality is rather mediocre by modern standards, I'm listening to some Heifetz right now. Sometimes wish I'd been born at the right time to hear Paganini play. Unfortunately, if I had chances are I'd have been a serf (of some such) and never heard him anyway.
I think I might eventually try to do a little webpage using angular/bootstrap with a haskell server and a mongodb ...db
@OMGtechy I'm always here
@AlexM. Even in your sleep?
fancy seeing you here
True
Most of the times I've come on here there's been noone around, so I stopped bothering. Thought I might pop and have a look again, and turns out there is actually some activity.
00:49
Must have some bad timing
Probably
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@omg probs your timezone s fault
BST?
@OMGtechy lol
Ell
Ell
British summer time?;o.o
00:50
Yeah
AFAICS there's always someone around in this room.
@Ell binary search tree :D
Must have been bad timing then
hahaha
Ell
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Yup
Yes, my timezone is a binary search tree
00:52
@Jefffrey Oh, it sometimes goes for an hour or two without posts, but rarely longer than that.
Tbh, that seems to apply to most of the chat rooms
Including GameDev, where I normally hang
Ell
Ell
I think even going an hour without posts is very infrequent
People there don't have much love for C++ though </3
Anyway, we're all here now eh? :D
@Ell there's barely an hour between my pizza pictures
We don't talk that much about C++, afaics.
Maybe 20% of the posts, probably less
00:55
But there's at least some love for it here. That's all I need man
Some people here hate it too.
Don't we all at times?
Ell
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As users of c++, there is hate too
Some people who love C++ hate it
Ell
Ell
Well I'd say more frustration than hate
00:55
ever since I joined I posted 18 pics of pizzas hmmm
I guess I like taking pictures of pizzas
Mmm, my most recent rant has been about what Scott Meyers refers to as "Universal References"
@Ell The slow time will is mostly when it's getting pretty late in the US, but still early in Europe--something like 5 hours from now or so, for example.
Ell
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@omg why?
@OMGtechy A suitable enough subject for a rant that you sound like a fine addition here.
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@jerry yeah I guess we don't really have anyone outside those timezones
00:58
Long story short, calling a templated function that is overloaded to take lvalues and rvalues can resolve to the rvalues version for an lvalue
@JerryCoffin you feel my pain I take it? D:
@Ell A few, but not really many regulars. PotatoSwatter is in the Philippines, but he hasn't been on in quite a while (ISP problems, apparently).
Ell
Ell
Now. To get another coke or to go to sleep
More coke, clearly. ;D
@OMGtechy I'm not sure about feeling pain, exactly, but I think the name he chose is poorly considered--far from universal, I tend to use it only when necessary.
@JerryCoffin He calls it that simply because almost everything resolves to the rvalue version. Sure you can get around it, but for those unaware it's quite confusing when your lvalue has its contents ripped out of it.
01:02
@OMGtechy That’s not a property of the parameter. A function can attempt to pilfer from an lvalue ref parameter just as well.
@OMGtechy Regardless of why he calls it that, it gives the impression that you should use it for all initialization, which (IMO) isn't even close to accurate.
True
@LucDanton pilfer?
Ripping the contents out, as you put it.
@LucDanton Can not just attempt to, but can outright do so all to often (e.g., std::auto_ptr).
Ah yeah, true, but when the function signature takes a && it implies that is safe to do so (unless you know about the universal ref thing)
@JerryCoffin which is why I have never used it
01:05
Okay but that’s not Scott’s doing. He’s naming it, but it’s the language that makes it possible at all.
Oh no, he's actually helping us by making us aware of the problem! I meant that the problem was with the language
Ah, I see.
@OMGtechy I have (but darned little).
You are far braver than I.
I simply used boost for my smart pointer needs in C++03
@OMGtechy Sometimes stupidity and bravery can look a lot alike... :-)
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01:08
I grew up on c++11 so :P
@Ell Liar! You're no more a grown up than I am.
C++11 is a wonderful thing and I look forward to C++14 being more common.
My last C++ job was in C++03 since that was the only compiler they had for the platform (which I found odd since it was based off Windows XP...but hey).
I'm waiting for C++11 to be old enough to be adopted at my workplace
I'm waiting for my children to be old enough to be adopted at my workplace.
Hahaha
01:10
@JerryCoffin I don't even want to know where you work
@AlexM. Neither do I!
When I get recruiters calling me, one of the first things I ask is what C++ standard is used there. If they say C++98 and they don't have a good reason, I instantly say I am not interesting in working for them until they wake up.
Well, time for me to go have some pizza I think. TTYAL.
Hell, one place that called me didn't even have STL (like didn't have, not didn't use)
Whilst another already uses C++14 features. I am seeing them soon ;D
apply to companies that you know are okay instead of waiting for recruiters?
01:11
How long ago was this?
@OMGtechy Look at it from the other direction: think what kind of God they'll think you are if you lead them from C++98/03 to 11/14.
Anyway, later.
The "not have STL"... I'm curious
yum beer
@HWalters pre STL C++
@JerryCoffin true, but when I speak to them they're like "no man this works"
@HWalters and less than a week ago
Pre standard?
01:14
mmhm
guinness is always good, but only when there's no murphy's around
there are almost no stores selling murphy's in my city though
so guinness is the beer of choice most of the time :(
also I've been drinking a lot lately
but hey I don't smoke so I've got that going for me
sbi
sbi
@OMGtechy A recruiter that knows that there's different C++ standards?? Now you have me curious. The ones that call me, usually barely now how to spell "C++" (some spell it "C/C++"), If they know more than this, then often it is the common misapprehension that it is an object-oriented language.
@sbi it's rare, but I just get them to call me again when they've found out what they use. Often it's on the job description too.
that's a valid point, HR usually has no idea about technical details
I usually stump them when I ask is it MVC or Microsoft MVC they use?
They're like umm, Microsoft is a good word so I'll use that
sbi
sbi
01:23
@OMGtechy It might be a good idea to put that into the description of myself which is meant to shy recruiters away in the business network I am registered in.
@sbi doesn't work, plus some places have good reason. For example, legacy compilers are the only things that CAN be used
sbi
sbi
@OMGtechy I currently have the best job I ever had, and I am coding for a platform that only has a C++03 compiler.
I get a lot of recruiters who don't even read my CV properly
sbi
sbi
@OMGtechy Oh, I do that, too. But whether they have read through my message to them is a good criterion to dismiss 98% of them.
@AlexM. For a few years I worked at a company that resided in the same house as an Irish pub. Going there for a Murphy's Red after work was a nice way to end the day.
@JerryCoffin What is it with you leaving when I arrive? (I mean, I dropped in here at 3:20, so it's neither my time to rise from, nor yours to go into the bed.)
@AlexM. Everybody in this family drinks a lot. (Mostly tap water.)
@JerryCoffin Is this why it's called "Wide"? (Or doesn't this work in English? It does when translated into German.)
@sbi funnily, plain water is the liquid I drink the least
sbi
sbi
01:35
Damn, as always, this place is meh at European sleeping times. Those Merkins just can't keep a conversation going.
I should do the European thing and go to bed.
Yawns.
Good night!
02:21
Welp now I woke up too early
02:39
So... everyone is now a night owl? Awesome.
Depends on your time zone... not to offend any potentially non-Terran folk here
I'm in the US-EST time zone, if anyone cares.
I was in Taiwan- GMT+0800 before, but now I migrated.
I'm in CAT time zone
California Arizona Time?
It's about 13:32:00 MTC
02:42
I doubt that 32 part.
Cat's Autonomic Timezone
Hmm... you're right... 34
About to be 13:35:00 MTC
Speaking of the Game Jam, it just so happens that in my community, we're also having a 4th anniversary Game Jam for this weekend.
What a coincidence.
Hello, Cruel World!
See, now everyone's being Terran oriented
02:49
I'm just a Zerg chilling out here in the middle of a garbage disposal wasteland.
Wearing my sunglasses, and being like "Joe Cool".
whistles
I feel as if I'm nowhere near at a geek's level. Being geeky is what defines my specialty and social skills in my environment, so without it, I'm like a fallen angel.
Oh - other Loungers are also awake. My sleep is screwed up again from holiday, beer and travel. Among the gods, Lord Coffee and Princess Pizza reign supreme.
03:10
I need to buy coffee
When shops open
@CatPlusPlus Amazon Prime vacuum sealed bags!
@CatPlusPlus Coffee
Vacuum sealed for freshness. air + coffee == bad
Is it just my development environment or is the standard C++ behavior to make "test" 5 in this case?: float test = 26/5;
Oh I thought Amazon Prime is a brand or whatever
No I don't really care about coffee I just want caffeine
(=°д°) ҉ ~ Senpai-sama! Amazon Prime is not a brand. Amazon is, though.
03:14
@CatPlusPlus that actually does sound like a brand of coffee
The standard C++ behavior is to make "test" 5 in that case
@HWalters Okay, I was going to add an answer to code review but wanted to verify. I need caffeine, too, and I'm not used to plain C++.
Integer division happens first, conversion to float happens second.
Thought so.
03:32
finally ... a good 4 weeks of hard work & learning
now my legs are sore
@chmod711telkitty home reno project?
yeah ... not where I live though
Oooh! Shiny (and not just the mirror!)
Wait... another penguin in here? Yay! Anyway, once you do one thing, it never ends.
because everything shown there is new
new tiles, shower, vanity, mirrored cabinet, toilet water tank ...
My parents redid their house top to bottom right after they bought it (it was in poor shape when bought) and literally not one single surface was left untouched except one shower. Everything else was painted or replaced...
:D
Okay, that is a lie. But it was bad.
03:47
All the new things shown there costed altogether less than $1500, but labour would have costed me $3500-$5000 if I did not do it myself
Now I am addicted to renovation ...
@sbi [in case you're still lurking] No, I just left to get some supper. Despite my also being far too wide, I still eat at least a meal or two a day...
 
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05:22
Fuck me. I only got back yesterday lunch and then 'printf("%d%d%d%d\n",k,k++,++k,i++,j++,++i,++j);'
lol, got more than it could be handled? :p
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Guise
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What is good bash shell for Windows
user3010322
Do I have to use cygwin? :c
05:49
Don't ask me, I only use guis
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Harfbuzz demands I run its autogen.sh to make its things.
Heh - busted! (10K+ only).
http://stackoverflow.com/questions/25830229/why-the-output-is-like-this-in-the-c-program-with-increment-and-decrement-operat
user3010322
MSys or Cygwin?
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"You should not choose root path with spaces in the name" For fuck's sake.
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I hate software that can't deal with spaces in the name of things.
06:03
@ThePhD I agree it's annoying - what's the point of '\' or '/' delimiters if a space is going to screw things up?
06:17
Spaces in paths are annoying
Why do you have them
Okay, did the OP of this question run into a compiler bug?
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Q: Able to cast away constness using static_cast why?

user1129251We know that using static_cast we can not remove the constness from an expression. But today i came across one scenario where i am able to do it. I am not able to figure out how it actually works. Please find below the code. This code compiles without any error and gives the correct result. why...

After looking at it for a while it looks like a bug, but I want to get your guys opinion on this.
It's VS2008, it won't get fixed anyway
I can repro it on VS2013.
processing 1M messages takes 24s for me, doing it the dumb way.
well, do it the smart way!
I got stuck
Does any one know whether a compact SUV AWD can handle a normal off road 4WD track?
07:29
How does Smooth McGroove break down the tracks of a video game's music? Does he get scores from the game makers?
@JohanLarsson Did you profile :v
That's not profiling
it does not point me to the bottleneck no
I can profile the test though
Also I can measure progress
[JsonProperty("bid_volume4")] // is there a way to avoid the ugly attribute?
public int BidVolume4 { get; set; }
07:50
Contractresolver seems nicer
08:13
this is perhaps overly compact.
09:07
this is what I need.
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@Insilico lol MSVC
user1804599
Epic fail.
not really.
the only thing not Standard about that code is taking the address of a temporary, which we all already knew was an extension,
user1804599
The extension is a retarded epic fail.
I disagree.
it's useful enough for interoperating with legacy C code, particularly COM.
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09:11
Extensions being enabled by default is also epic fail.
any Standard-conforming compiler would accept addressof(T()) to give a const T*.
@rightfold Was she hot? Was it a she?
so not allowing &T() is a smidge dumb.
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Of the standard, not of the compilers that should implement the standard.
Did you turn down the job offer baby dog?
Election day here today, they are driving around with a car with big speakers spamming bs.
09:20
what job offer?
You talked about some C# gig
that wasn't a job offer, it was a recruiter spamming me with a job because he couldn't find anyone actually suited to it
lol gamedev people coming here saying how much they don't like C++
Don't worry C++ doesn't like game devs either
Not even once?
Oh maths
09:26
Hello... My first time here and maths and sex video is the first thing that popped up
@rightfold The fact that it correctly fails to compile with integers but not with floating points is amusing.
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@RichardSalim ok
@RichardSalim That's not even the most unusual thing we've posted here.
hahaha I'm looking forward to see more
I'm replying this message while listening to the talk
09:28
Man I suck at SQL.
wow... you can edit the chat you already sent? why don't we have it for our phones
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@Rapptz did you solve it?
Sep 8 at 2:00, by chris
Da Rules. No, wait, Da Rules. Read them.
Just an FYI
It's probably basic SQL usage too
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09:30
sjhow me
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/if you like
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ps congrats on the sex. That wasn't so hard, was it? oh wait, I mean....
I got it
user1646075
groovy. feeding kids anyway...
omg no I can be kicked from the room now
@thecoshman Happy birthday mate!
09:46
someone know if it exist a google irc channel for google place api questions ?
user1804599
Ask on IRC.
I've found the error of my ways
Apr 19 at 15:37, by Borgleader
Common life errors: being a cat
eureka
I can't believe I missed this

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