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02:00
@JerryCoffin 2x and 4x were about the same speed. 4x being about 10% faster. But when I compiled it with ICC instead of VS2013, the 2x loop became half the speed of the 4x loop.
@telkitty.exe Please note the scale of that, along with the fact that every year is a measurement point.
@R.MartinhoFernandes Those aren't meaningless at all. They relate perfectly to the boredom level of watching an opera.
@telkitty.exe a graph of a derivative? o.o
I don't know if ICC interchanged the 4x loop, but it wouldn't matter much because 4x is almost enough to saturate the pipes anyway.
02:01
2nd derivative ... or not :p ... but yes, it is a derivative of temperature - temperature change
1st
@CaptainGiraffe didn't see ice age
just weird to graph it tbh
I wish it were an ice age.
@telkitty.exe Um, when was the last ice age? Do you even bother?
02:02
actually that graph is pretty shit
@JerryCoffin You insensitive clod. I love quite a few operas.
Iunno, these operators basically seem like list comprehensions in python...
what a shock!
@Crow An insensitive clod insults people by accident. I assure you, this was no accident!
02:04
@JerryCoffin So many off by one errors.
Jerry needs a patch.
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hrrm... are complements of sets relative to other sets? What does this imply? mathurl.com/o4ftlal
Yeah, always relative to some universal set.
@CaptainGiraffe all I meant is that there is no reliable to get stats from milllions and millions of years ago ...
(We'd have some russel's paradox crap otherwise)
02:07
@Rapptz 1. the patch is for women. 2. I've had a vasectomy.
oooh okay. so basically it's saying, if a is a subset of b, then all things not in a and all things not in b must also be a subset of each other?
Show nonsense plot => obviously there's no reliable way to collect the data.
@telkitty.exe millions and millions would indicate before this planet was born, indeed before time. Please try again.
wot
your graph lacks info
02:09
lol CNN correspondent caught saying on air "a small black hole would suck in our entire universe."
@CaptainGiraffe There are some 4500 of those millions and millions.
| volume = (volume of the Earth) | mass = 3.0 Suns | density = | surface_grav = (Earth gravity) | escape_velocity = | sidereal_day = 23 56 4.100 | rot_velocity = | axial_tilt = 23°26′21.4119″ | albedo = 0.367 (geometric) 0.306 (Bond) | atmosphere = yes | temperatures = yes | temp_name1 = Kelvin | min_temp_1 = 184 K | mean_temp_1 = 288 K | max_temp_1 = 330 K | temp_name2 = Celsius | min_temp_2 = −89.2 °C | mean_temp_2 = 15 °C | max_temp_2 = 56.7 °C | surface_pressure = (at MSL) | atmosphere_composition = 78.08% nitrogen (N2)About ...
according to wiki: 4.54 billion ...
@R.MartinhoFernandes Oh I thought millions and millions would add their sizes. Mea culpa
There's no reliable way to know the Earth was around 4500 millions of years ago.
02:10
> CNN's Don Lemon: Is Black Hole Theory For Missing Jet 'Preposterous?'
WAT
My god, what
which is not too long now think about it ... memories are now counted in tera (bits) :p
@telkitty.exe Wat
Listen to the correspondent he talks to. She thinks a "small black hole" would destroy the entire universe.
Why am I all of a sudden being bombarded with nonsense.
@ciphermagi She has read too much Hawking
02:13
@CaptainGiraffe Actually, I disagree. I think her problem is that she's read too much Henry Madison Morris.
there are 7.151 billion people on earth, but earth is only 4.54 billion years old, each of us currently on earth gets less than a year - I love compare apple with orange bathrooms
@telkitty.exe It's actually too long if you think about it! It's almost 150 petaseconds!
@ciphermagi Nah, the problem is probably much simpler: she's dumb.
@R.MartinhoFernandes Why would anybody watch any of those news people?
@R.MartinhoFernandes lol
@JerryCoffin Same reason people like Penny on Big Bang Theory. To laugh at her.
02:15
Do not ascribe to malice what can be sufficiently explained by incompetence. -Wise comment, chipher told me this was Hanlons Razor
describe the relation between {1,2} and {a,b,c}... what?
@R.MartinhoFernandes Unfortunately, no. If she couldn't (or at least didn't) speak, it would be better.
I guess the ocean could be considered a "back hole" due to its size.
Hanlon's Razor, iirc @CaptainGiraffe
@ciphermagi I think you've missed a large part of why people watch her.
02:16
@JerryCoffin Or is it two distinct parts?
@JerryCoffin For the boobs, right? I'm not sure I believe that, considering HBO probably has a lot more skin at exactly the same time.
@ciphermagi I thought people laughed at Sheldon and gawked at Penny.
@DeadMG I considered pointing that out, but there are really more than two.
oh by the way
I've never seen TBBT
It gets old quick
02:18
TBBT?
Two Big Boobs Theory.
@DeadMG My wife loves it because of the social awkwardness. I like watching the main 4 guys make fun of everyone.
@DeadMG I wouldn't watch it (even close to) all the time, but it honestly is pretty funny once in a while.
The ocean must be lonely. There's not even birds. Just an endless expanse of the water surface.
we also have 20 billion chickens on earth ... just saying ...
02:20
well, there are no life forms that really evolved to exist on the surface of the sea except maybe some plankton and shit
It's like watching a train wreck. You just can't look away from the failtrain on CNN.
@StackedCrooked you should do ocean swim/diving more
@telkitty.exe Oh look dinner!
ocean is never lonely - plenty of seafood - crab, barramandi, sharks, dolphins, sea snails, sea snakes, jellyfish, octopus
@DeadMG plankton shall keep me company then
and shit
02:22
@DeadMG Shit is not a life form.
It is a host environment for various life forms.
@R.MartinhoFernandes Maybe not, but you would be surprised how many life forms are inside it.
it's a lot of bacteria
or virus
and shit
oh wait
02:23
which is not alive by itself
That would suck.
Imagine dropping a deuce and it tries to climb out of the bowl.
@telkitty.exe Dolphins might be ok. Not sure about the rest.
In Japan you can eat dolphin steak and whale steak.
most octopus are okay too ... I love octopus (not the blue ring kind)
Octopus is really spicy.
I don't really like that.
^ I used to go swimming here ^ there used to be a resident octopus living in it
02:26
@ciphermagi Nah, that's black holes.
@R.MartinhoFernandes lol
waves bring small fishes in too
plenty of tiny crabs
The west coast of norway has a delicious crab invasion. I don't understand why I cant find them in the market
not all crabs are delicious ... or people are too lazy ...
These are king crabs
02:29
Perhaps people don't bring them to market because they're delicious.
They're hoarding them.
they have kings?
Yes the crab society is a very hierachical society.
I was not aware of such a social hierarchy :)
Being royalty doesn't keep them from being served with shell pliers.
Still, they are wreacking havoc on the norweigan sealine.
I want to buy them, steam them and eat them.
02:33
You're making me hungry. Now I'm fantasizing about going out and ordering a whole crab.
I'm sorry about "the west coast of Norway", It's like the southern border of Canada. Well you do have Sarah Palin in Alaska. Didn't count that far.
@ciphermagi You just made my next holiday destination.
How so?
I don't get set relations :| I feel like all the resources on google skipped a step somewhere
The seafood, I'm going to Texas.
Galveston to be precise.
lol...Galveston
My brother got arrested there for trying to stand on the beach when the hurricane hit.
02:38
Is Galveston still off because of the hurricane?
No I ain't, officer!
@Rapptz Who are you?
Rapptz
02:41
Well, see, I'm a JavaScript girl, so this might not work out.
whats up? (=
The direction generally accepted to be in the opposite of the major pull of gravity from the Earth, with varying degrees of range depending upon interpretation.
meh
I need to become unsick
I can give you the military remedy.
Take 12 hours off and drink lots of water.
what, the best care money can buy?
02:54
No, when I was sick in the Navy the prescription was always 12 hours of SIQ (not allowed to leave barracks) and drink lots and lots of water.
how primitive
That was even the prescription when some dick pulled all of the ligaments out my thumb doing shit he wasn't supposed to have been doing. They gave me a wrist brace, 10 hours off, and told me to drink water.
03:13
You should go to UZ Gent. It's only 100 meters from my place.
^ Today's featured picture on Wikipedia.
@ciphermagi See--the Air Force is better. You'd have gotten 16 hours off instead.
03:28
@JerryCoffin Yeah, but it would have taken me 8 years to make NCO.
@ciphermagi Why? Multiple article 15's or something? When I was in, they were doing "Gramm-Ruddman" force reductions, so promotions were pretty slow, but I had a line number on staff sergeant when I got out (just under 4 years).
@Rapptz: That won't work. It needs to be before ths compiler is run. — kirbyfan64sos 2 mins ago
Why?
?_?
Actually, that reminds me: tomorrow is the anniversary of my discharge (a day I used to celebrate much more than I did my birthday).
Crossbows are cool.
@JerryCoffin I was ATC, and from what I understand, when I was in that MOS was so locked up you couldn't get a promotion with a presidential order.
Which anniversary? My anniversary isn't until the 26th of this month.
03:34
@ciphermagi By the strangest coincidence, the 26th anniversary.
I got out RE-4 with a note that said "We broke your ass - Sorry."
My feet are jacked up, my hands are jacked up, my throat & lungs are jacked up, I'm messed in the head, everything you can think of, really. Early February this year the civilian doctor at the VA told me I was allowed to stand up and bear weight on my feet again after 18 months.
@ciphermagi Sounds like you'd benefit more from talking to my wife (physical therapist) than me...
My arms got stronger. :P Manual wheelchair is hard work. Especially in the Rockies.
@ciphermagi Virginia told you to stand up?
@StackedCrooked Joffrey agrees
03:41
Who's Joffrey?
Hm, Game of Thrones character according to Google.
@StackedCrooked VA === Veteran's Administration (Hospital) to most vets.
Oh. I didn't even know there was such a thing.
Most Belgian veterans are dead by now.
Yeah, it's basically free healthcare for US veterans who were broken by the military and low-cost healthcare for US veterans who got out okay.
TIL that blubber is also an English word.
@StackedCrooked I'm a veteran of a war that's currently going on. A giant number of the really broken veterans in the US right now are under 30 yrs. old.
03:47
Afghanistan?
Not me, but most.
I got messed up through a series of events spanning almost four years with people doing shit they weren't supposed to be doing and others (me included) taking the physical injuries from it.
There were like six of us had to go to hospital at the same time in the last one, and I got my discharge while I was still in hospital.
Imma go watch a movie with my wife and then go to bed.
er.. so what brings you to the C++ room? :)
@ciphermagi Who retired okay. People who didn't stay in long enough to retire and weren't injured (much) during their service don't get any VA medical coverage.
@StackedCrooked Tired of just starting at SO forums. I thought I'd try a chat.
03:53
@JerryCoffin They can still apply for it, even at no rating. It's just availability based then instead of need based.
Anyway, 'While You Were Sleeping' is on.
I'll see you guys.
@ciphermagi Indeed--though I've often wished my dad (who was also in a wheel chair) could have seen more of the mountains.
@ciphermagi Later.
why is it that everything in math seems so complicated, but port it to a programming language and it seems so easy?
really, solved 2nd order D.E. using code much?
2nd DE?
2nd order differential equation?
forgot 'order'
03:57
it'd require making a computer algebra system
never tried in C++
or java for that matter
@telkitty.exe sure.
why do programs stop at 2nd order though?
the process of solving is generalised for nth order differential equations
it never made sense why everyone stops at 2
personally I suspect it's something to do with physics ...
distance/speed/acceleration
0/1st/2nd order D.E.
iunno why it's always bugged me that people called it speed
04:05
@JerryCoffin there are 3rd party libraries doing whole lots of things ...
@Rapptz velocity ... better now?
it wasn't really aimed at you
@Rapptz do you know the book "Elements of Programming" by Stepanov?
I was helping people with math a while back and they called it speed too
@telkitty.exe Maple is primarily a standalone program rather than a library,
worse still ~_~
04:06
@StackedCrooked I have a copy.
@Rapptz Maybe you will find it interesting given your interest in math.
just use matlab/mathematica then ...
@StackedCrooked Nope.
@JerryCoffin me too, but I only read the first two chapters
it's a little too theoretical for my taste
@StackedCrooked I think I've read pretty much all of it now, though it certainly took me a while.
04:08
nice
did you find it worthwhile?
What's it about?
@telkitty.exe Maple can do quite a bit that matlab doesn't even attempt. Mathematica is closer, to the point that each has some areas where it's better.
@StackedCrooked I think so, though I can't honestly claim it's really had a lot of direct effect on how I write code (I don't think, anyway).
@Rapptz Stepanov's algebraic approach to library design..
@Rapptz It's basically Alexander Stepanov exploring the foundations of computing from a generic programming viewpoint.
04:14
@Rapptz you are the only math-oriented person I know. So I'm curious about your opinion on the book.
template<typename F>
requires(Transformation(F))
DistanceType(F) distance(Domain(F) x, Domain(F) y, F f)
{
// Precondition: y is reachable from x under f
typedef DistanceType(F) N;
N n(0);
while (x != y) {
x = f(x);
n = n + N(1);
}
return n;
}
Concepts so old.
It's a lot less a programming book than a computer science book though--in fact, parts are so theoretical, I'd almost go so far as to say they're getting closer to philosophy than science.
I don't like theoretical computer science
seems pretty boring to me
apparently my graphics driver is over 2 years old
sounds fun
04:33
So I just installed HD sentinel on my main machine. And it says my boot drive isn't looking good.
And I'm just about to RMA a different drive.
:| why do I still not know how to into regular expression?
 
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05:48
2 hour
@ScottW ...and counting.
06:02
If I had no friends then I would have no friends problems
nice try, @telkitty.exe, we all know you don't have any friends
true, but it doesn't make sense because I have friends problems @ moment
I'll try to ignore it
06:43
designer home apparently ...
@telkitty.exe Looks like a house built by one of those renovation/recycling shows
07:07
Why is Firefox so bad
I feel like going back to Chrome.
what about firefox?
it's slow T_T
@Rapptz A few years ago when MS was more dominant, I was fond of pointing out that they got that way not primarily from monopolistic trade practices, but by using slightly smaller caliber arms when shooting themselves in the feet. Circumstances have changed, but the basic idea remains.
It seems alright for me ... but then again I have a low standard in regards to browsers ...
IE is actually the fastest browser I've used
Chrome's second
07:11
I like firefox
Firefox is the worst one though
it works, that's all it matters ... and it works pretty well vast majority of times ...
Slowest, but (by far) the best color management.
depends on the OS ...
for example, a webpage would have different colors in firefox on OS X and windows
My performance expectation would be different if we are talking about game displays or playing videos, but most of the times I use firefox to view articles on the internet, so being a bit slow does not bother me
Hi
I'm in LA!!! Woo :)
07:19
Is that an invitation?
@TonyTheLion Congrats. Are you heading south, or only north from LA? (I'm in San Diego nowadays...)
@telkitty.exe I'm talking specifically about supporting color profiles. For example: color.org/version4html.xalter
I'm mostly only heading north, but maybe could come down to San Diego, say hi
@TonyTheLion Let me know if you want to, and we can figure out somewhere to meet (I'm actually a bit north of SD, in Vista).
Yea I'll let you know
07:23
Bad question of the day:
-1
Q: Fractnull? Can someone explain this to me like I was reading it from the book "Fractnull for Dummys" Plz? And does the equasion make a pattern

user3451565Fractnull explain this to me what it is like I was reading it from the book > "Fractnull for Dummies" And does the equasion make a pattern?

user868935
hey all
@Rapptz I suppose claiming it's by far the best is open to some question. IE 11 (for example) actually supports ICC V4 profiles.
user868935
anyone in here worked with GLew 1.10?
Still, Firefox has decent color management, and has had for quite a while. For most others, decent color management support is either nonexistent or quite recently added.
07:39
I'm rewatching Scrubs again
Haha, can totally imagine pie dude's parents reaction when he says "yeah I am meeting another dude I have met on the internet, and no, it's not the one I met a couple of month ago - another one ..."
@Rapptz good idea.
@telkitty.exe The "couple of months ago" was getting close to a year ago now.
that long? ~_~
@telkitty.exe Last summer -- around June or July, if memory serves (so a few months short of a year, but only a few).
08:02
Night
@TonyTheLion o_0 when was this arranged, I don't recall giving you leave!
08:20
Lol
I just jokingly pretended to throw the bottom of the coffee machine thing at the misses... ended up throwing the remaining water over her
Eeek
Hope that wasn't boiling water?
she laughed, I'm of the hook :P
no, you let the machine cool down after use before cleaning it out.
08:30
Ah ok
@thecoshman I am not sure why you would be doing that in first place ^^
@ScarletAmaranth because you never joke around ¬_¬
that's how people get killed
not really...
injured maybe, but not that badly.
08:56
darwin award ... people are just joking around ... stupid people that is :p
@Rapptz yers
but his cab should be strong enough to handle it.
@Rapptz your can see how the first plank collapses under the weight of the storage and this causes a chain reaction
Gravity doesn't forgive
did they die
that's a lot of weight
oh, it seems like the car hit a "pillar" and broke it
09:36
@StackedCrooked no, tit driver.
@Rapptz wouldn't be a huge amount of weight, and not all of it onto the cab. He'll probably be stuck there whilst others have to waste time digging him out and laughing at him.
the setup should not be so fragile that one bad driver can make the whole thing tumble down
your optimism is great
@thecoshman i don't think they were laughing
They generally have pillars sticking out that hopefully take the brunt of it.
but yeah, he should be safe
it's designed for it
09:38
I don't think there were any here.
It probably wasn't well maintained anyway.
and look at how messy the general area is
I don't think they are to concerned about safety
the working conditions are definitely shit
I should try get a link to my brother, he's a driver of various trucks.
I wonder what's in the boxes. I think maybe they are filled with paper. That should be really heavy.
could be any sort of supply/stock really
it's vodka
happened in 2009
also yeah, I know. dailymail
first thing I found
09:44
ok
> From what I can see in the pictures there was no protection for the racking legs for the first couple of feet, and the tops of the racking were not connected to the building by tensioned cables. It was an accident waiting to happen.
So leg protection and tensioned cables exist for this.
concrete pillars, yes, tension cables... that's a new one on me.
These wearhouse tend to be built with a very light weight roof, not something load baring (bar the roof itself).
hey there, i am not sure here is a right room to ask a silverlight related issue
The protection pillars would only be at the ends any way
@paulcheung of course it is not.
09:51
:o(
@StackedCrooked they may not look very high, but don't forget the trucks are very low clearance.
please give a hint where should i go?
@thecoshman
@paulcheung this room really dislikes it when random people come here and start asking questions.
@paulcheung ask a question on Stack Overflow
09:53
thanks all the same~~
@rightfold Where is that from?
@kbok just copy/paste into google :p
unless you want to be chatty :)
@StackedCrooked Oh, sure
I just wanted to remark that my workplace's toilets have two rolls, too
when i ask a question, google almost always knows what I mean. it's better than humans at this.
@TonyTheLion take pictures of your 'date' in S.F.
10:03
i don't like dates
they taste yuckie
I used to love them
Tony had a date in SF? What is this story
10:24
I don't really see how the error message could have been more helpful? It wasn't even a technical message, but a true Boost Proto generated expression domain assertion. Just start out with /small/ expressions, and build on that. Soon you'll be recognizing your mistakes seeing just the "shape" of the first hundred lines of compiler messages flying by :) — sehe 8 secs ago
I like when documentaries play recorded sounds, but try to mock it up like they are getting it live.
@paulcheung so, have you considered finding a site specialized in question & answers?
This is what's wrong with the and tags:
1
Q: How to show all results if search is empty

Daniel KellawayI have the code below where I am trying to search by Country. On the home page there is a dropdown box to select the Country from. My problem is that it shows the results for the selected Country but if nothing is selected then there are no results. I want it to show ALL Country results if there...

5 answers. Not a single one suggesting a sane approach with view/stored proc/prepared statement
what do you expect
php is hardly known for drawing in great programmers.
They're really in the business of letting others "learn" in the same painful and hard way as they do/did themselves. Stumbling on a new "tool" (e.g. a pebble that resembles a hammer) and using that in the pitch dark. At the cost of many work weeks. Instead of just asking for the toolbox, switching on the assembly room lighting and reading the tool instructions.
@Gigi thanks for that. It really bugs me about this "community" that there are easily 5 answers that don't address the basic/elementary things. It's almost like people don't want others to know the right tools... — sehe 6 secs ago
huh, who would have thought, cats are not keen on being used as a shit cannon :P
@sehe that would imply most of them know about this highly advanced bashing stone in the first place.
10:44
@thecoshman wha? :p
it's a shame really, with php, you really need to learn fast how to not leave yourself vulnerable to such trivial exploits. And it's funny how easy most of the exploits are to mitigate.
@melak47 holding her up and pretending to fire her like a gun :P
I think you're holding her the wrong way :p
nah, has to be on her back :P
took me a while to work out why these date/time calculations kept saying the time had passed... it's not the 22nd today :(
argh I slept 7 hours, why am I still so tired ._.
@thecoshman Has nothing to do with PHP

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