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9:00 AM
If I use conditioner, though, I think I could get it to be ULTRA smooth.
Like, mmmmmm smooth.
And soft.
It's pretty soft naturally, but I could probably make it like
extra soft.
 
Oh um, that name does ring a bell.
 
Though I still don't know how to apply conditioner.
 
@ThePhD Open bottle, pour in hands, apply on beard?
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Is your beard supposed to be wet, though?
 
9:01 AM
Are you supposed to apply it like shampoo, and scrub it in?
Or do you just let it sit?
 
I never applied shampoo to mine.
 
Sorry, typo. s/after/like
Usually you can clean facial hair just by using regular face/body wash on it.
Unless you've got a SUPER beard.
Then that shit needs at least a little shampoo.
 
@ThePhD Would take me years to grow.
 
Xeo
I haven't shaved in ~5 months now, so yeah, shampoo helps
 
Maybe one day I'll make a bet.
 
Xeo
9:03 AM
I should really get to it
 
I keep shaving my face before it gets too crazy.
One time I let it sit for a month and it was just face-covering scruff.
 
Also, OMG THE THOUGHT OF SHAVING WITH SCISSORS
 
Xeo
lol
 
I actually want to learn how to shave with a razor blade.
 
Xeo
9:04 AM
When I was too lazy again, and got a relatively long beard, I usually shave with a hair trimmer
 
I would probably pay a professional to do it.
Yeah, that should be safe.
 
yay
just got my 2500 WoW TCG cards
 
Oh gawd - a bad hair day in the Lounge. Fringe-benefits etc. I should have stayed drunk.
 
this weekend is gonna be an epic gaming party
 
9:08 AM
@R.MartinhoFernandes I had my hair once cut with a razor. That was a sharp experience
 
@BartekBanachewicz Meh, I'm ok with the scissors, so long as I am not the one holding them.
 
Last day of Premiership soccer here in UK. This weekend is gonna be an epic drinking party.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes would you rather be on the other side?
 
Xeo
@BartekBanachewicz Woah
 
Because if I am I am sure I will nick an eye out.
 
9:09 AM
@Xeo it's like 4-5 kilograms of cards
:3
 
Xeo
How much did you pay?
 
@BartekBanachewicz How much do those things cost?
 
After the 'fringe-benefits' post, I'm not convinced that nicking out eyes is such a bad idea.
 
Less than 20 euro
 
Xeo
wow
 
9:10 AM
I used to play M:tG and it was kind of expensive.
 
I boutht a lot of crappy cards just to have fun with friends
 
Xeo
Yeah, some Magic cards were fucking expensive
 
I mean, they are probably worth a lot more than 20E.
but no Rare/Epic cards here, so as i said, it's instant nerd party kit
 
Xeo
heh
 
with 2.5k cards you can have any weird deck you could imagine.
 
Xeo
9:11 AM
Where's the party going to be, how do I get there? :P
 
@Xeo One of my friends was World Champion, so I would usually piggyback on his collection :)
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes woah
 
Xeo
@R.MartinhoFernandes cool
Also, did I mention my whole body fucking hurts? :|
 
André Coimbra used to be a professional player and now is a professional poker player, member of PokerStars Team Online. He is from Coimbra, Portugal and he is perhaps best known in the community for winning the . Career Magic: The Gathering Accomplishments Decks Much of the talk after the centred around André Coimbra's deck. The deck was designed by professional writer Mike Flores, who called the deck 'Naya Lightsaber'. The deck was designed to beat Jund, the dominant deck at the time, and did just that when Coimbra won the World Championships finals 3-0 against Davi...
He even has a wikipedia entry. Awesome.
 
@Xeo haha, at my place, prolly. The best way would be by plane, but that might be expensive.
And as I said a while ago, I believe, trains suck and bus ride would be like 11 hours from Berlin.
If you want to visit me, it would be better to come for a while longer, that way cheaper food and beer would amortize the plane tickets :)
 
Xeo
9:13 AM
@BartekBanachewicz Remember: I'm not in Berlin :D
Oh, and I don't drink beer. :P
 
0
Q: (C++) Why does it print "2"?

NarakkaSanI'm new to C++, but here's my code: #include <iostream> using namespace std; int main() { int x; cin >> x; cout << "x = " << x << endl; system("pause"); return 0; } Whenever I input letters, it always prints x = 2. I know that I'm supposed to input digits, but why "2"?

^^ Is it UB to enter a letter when expecting a number?
 
@Xeo I do remember. Still, to get to Gdańsk you would probably need to get to Berlin first.
@Mysticial User-defined Behaviour?
 
guess first comment answers it. :)
 
@Mysticial No. It's UB to read uninitialised variables.
 
@BartekBanachewicz lol :)
@R.MartinhoFernandes It's not uninitialized. It takes user-input first.
 
9:15 AM
@Mysticial It is.
If a number cannot be read, the variable is left untouched.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes ooooh... that's a sneaky corner case...
More proof that I don't know C or C++...
 
I wouldn't call it sneaky, nor corner case.
It's just some transaction-ish behaviour: either it gets read, or not. No middle.
 
Would be better if it raised an exception.
 
^^ lol wtf
"CERN"
 
9:19 AM
heh
 
Xeo
@Mysticial That's a nice connection
 
@Mysticial nice
Well, we had 10Gbe at ADVA :P
but it was constantly doing something, also our connections were QoS-ed
 
IIRC we had 1gb at university
 
In this world, the speed of your internet is directly proportional to the size of your e-penis.
Unfortunately, mine shrunk about 3 days ago when I left school.
:(
 
That's what he said.
 
9:28 AM
meh, 56kbps should be enough for everyone
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Sometimes it's zeroed! Isn't it?
 
@Mysticial hahahah
 
0
A: Operating on character '№'

Jack Wrightthats just homophobic!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 
Xeo
0
Q: Should std::move be used in return-statements for effeciency?

RasmusI cannot figure out if the std::move in the following code does anything good or that it is completely wrong? The class Object has both Move and Copy constructor defined. First: With Move: template<typename T> template <typename F> const Object<T> Object<T>::operator*(const F& rhs) const { ...

Can somebody enlighten him?
 
@LucDanton Don't think so.
 
9:33 AM
> And No, I don't want to use boost for various reasons.
urgh
 
I'm not checking. Don't bother either.
 
@TonyTheLion Too localised?
 
0
Q: Declaring an interface which can be iterated over

DevolusI have created an interface class which defines a Queue for Childpointers. class IChildQueue { public: IChildQueue(void) {}; virtual ~IChildQueue(void) {}; public: virtual bool add(ChildProcess *oChildProcess) = 0; virtual void remove(ChildProcess *oChildProcess) = 0; virtu...

he's trying to masturbate OOP
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes oh you :P
 
AAAAaaaAAAAaaaa
> Khronos face-to-face meeting notes
that's like the greatest email I could find in my mailbox
 
9:40 AM
> Hey sexy, come join me in your bed ;)
 
lolwat
 
"My PC crashes, fridge unfreezes and the cows start mooing everytime I try to use Boost". — Bartek Banachewicz 6 secs ago
 
so, is the lounge wiki project page being updated?
 
n00bs
@BartekBanachewicz hahah
@thecoshman why would it need updating?
also, it's a wiki, if you want it updated, you can go do that.
 
@TonyTheLion ... new projects?
@TonyTheLion I don't know what others are working on, hence the wiki page :P
 
9:44 AM
ah
I'm not working on anything, because I'm a lazy slob
 
at least your honest
 
@thecoshman I think the idea is that everyone updates their own entries.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes aye, but people don't seem to be
 
@thecoshman I've added Minicraft, perhaps I could add Lundi too
 
I really need to think of something to work on
 
9:47 AM
I subscribed to Terralang mailing list today
 
why don't you fail at making a game too?
 
@thecoshman I don't consider Minicraft a failure TYVM
 
@BartekBanachewicz :P
 
My fridge and freezer are in a metal outbuilding, and so shielded, butI don't want to annoy the stock in the field opposite - is there another lib I can use instead of boost?
 
9:49 AM
Hmmm, apparently inline in the declaration of a member function causes a linker error
what?
 
@thecoshman We had a lot of releases in 1970.
 
does the definition also need inline or something?
 
The definition of an inline function must be present in all TUs where it is needed.
 
anyways, inline is useless, so fuck it
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes lol
 
9:50 AM
lol?
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes oh I see
:/
meh
 
That's basically what inline means: "Dear compiler, if you play along, I swear this function definition will be present in all TUs where it is needed"
 
Yeah - how can the linker possibly fixup an inline function?
 
and the corollary, "allow me to define this function in more than one TU", which is where it's really useful
 
@MartinJames Dark magicks.
 
9:51 AM
@R.MartinhoFernandes right.
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Yeah, fixed.
 
TU is still a strange concept to me.
how do I know when something is in another TU?
I am confus.
 
OpenGL ES-Next
 
because you're building TUs individually
 
They got it right, I guess. (wrt 1y vs c++-next)
 
9:52 AM
isn't a TU more or less each .cpp?
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit what do you mean?
 
@TonyTheLion What do you mean? A TU is just a .cc file + everything that's included into it
 
@TonyTheLion a.cpp -> a.o oh look a TU
 
@thecoshman no, afaik it's a CPP with all its included headers.
 
@TonyTheLion b.cpp -> b.o oh look another TU
now let's link a.o and b.o together to form an executable
 
9:53 AM
hmmm ok
 
@TonyTheLion yeah, I meant those too.
 
it's what the compiler sees. You tell the compiler to compile this file, and then compile that file and then compile this other file. And then you tell the linker to combine the output from those into a single executable
 
basically what is compiled down to each .o
 
> Interesting discussion after AMD confirmed that their hardware supports only limited number of border colors for bindless samplers (required to implement this extension
oh fuck AMD
 
@TonyTheLion That is the "more" part in "more or less". :P
 
9:54 AM
C++ and its translation only really takes you as far as obtaining a.o and b.o, though ODR requires to talk about multiple symbol definition across multiple TUs
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Phase 9 is linking, IIRC.
 
> - On iOS cache contains last 50 used shaders; they want to cache last 500 shaders. //cc @Ell
 
It helps to remember that the compilation model basically says that each file is compiled in isolation. While foo.cpp is compiled, the compiler knows nothing about the existence of bar.cpp, or what's in it. It only knows the contents of foo.cpp and its includes. So basically, that information has to be self-contained.
 
in large projects its very hard to conceptualize a TU though, cause includes have other includes and something may be indirectly included, which AFAIK is also part of that TU, no?
 
9:55 AM
@R.MartinhoFernandes it is
 
Wait, phases 8 and 9, actually. 8 being the relevant one.
 
oh, that looks promising
> - OGL: gigantic state machine: would be nice if it became more of state objects and more of data interface; instead changing bits and calling, they would like to provide a buffer with references of resources and draw calls requests; looks like grouping the state in objects is problematic because different HW vendors have different HW API.
 
..which is why we get so many link errors.
 
@TonyTheLion sure, so a single TU can be big, and there's typically a lot of overlap between TUs (they include the same files)
 
9:56 AM
I don't know enough about C++ compilation model :/
 
@BartekBanachewicz: Is this mailing public?
 
oh lol wat
> Current OpenGL API is not friendly for modern text editors; let’s improve it.
 
@jalf right
 
@wilx I don't think it's confidential, yet again I don't think you will find those anywhere on the internet.
That's why I am spamming you here :P
 
@TonyTheLion I don't think it's hard to conceptualize
 
9:57 AM
@TonyTheLion Rule of thumb: code in a header will appear in various TUs; code in a source file (i.e. .cpp) will only appear in one.
 
@TonyTheLion me neither... yet I am still trying to make a build system :P
@R.MartinhoFernandes will or should? :P
 
@BartekBanachewicz: Your quotes are too out of the context for me to comprehend most of it.
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit maybe for you. :)
 
@TonyTheLion That is correct - a TU consists of everything you compile at that time. Things that you #include and the things that those things #include are all present, and have been since the preprocessing stage
 
@thecoshman Well, you can fuck shit up as much as you like. I am assuming sanity.
 
9:57 AM
@R.MartinhoFernandes right, now that is a handy rule.
 
@wilx oh wait it is confidential
 
ITT Bartek fails
 
I imagine it might be harder to conceptualise TUs if you're an IDE bunny, but even then you have individual source files...
 
lol "IDE bunny"
 
hahahah
ITT We have IDE bunnies
 
@TonyTheLion meh, these are just a few interesting bits, but they are quite obvious
 
Also, I am not really sure. The PDF I am reading now is confidential, but the notes prolly ain't
 
ohhh confidential PDF's
 
hacks into Bartek's PC and downloads the PDF
 
9:59 AM
lets get out my haxor skillz :P
 
What about IDE Killer Rabbits of Caerbannog?
 

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