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3:01 AM
Again its not really windows the problem but VS. That thing is not going to like 2gb (or even 1gb) or ram
 
i wonder why it takes so much space
 
considering the amount of things VS can do, i'm not actually surprised
it's like a swiss army knife
 
eclipse has plugins just as good
 
eclipse D:
 
why
 
3:06 AM
you're lucky the lounge is more or less alseep :D
 
@c0dem0nkey Java developer eh?
 
lol not really.
but trying to be android.
 
Eclipse is full of shit.
 
So you're insane?
 
so yea trying to be java
partly
 
3:07 AM
Get a decent IDE
 
Eclipse always felt sluggish to me
 
im not experienced with eclipse. you guys find it crappy?
 
it's made for Java
 
Eclipse - and every other Java IDE - is sluggish.
 
the only other IDE I could stand for C++ is Qt
 
3:08 AM
Same with NetBeans
It's pretty retarded
 
fuck netbeans
 
@ThePhD hey phd. nice to see you again
 
I will say it again for clarity... FUCK Netbeans
 
When people use Eclipse or Netbeans I automatically assume they're a Java developer who is trying to switch to C++
 
lol
 
3:09 AM
@Rapptz Confession bear? Is tht you?
 
No. Fuck memes.
 
Do you guys know where the term 'meme' came from? no ggogling now
 
I've also been looking at notebooks/ultrabooks...why do they have to be so expensive ;_;
 
@c0dem0nkey meme is a biological term.
 
memebrane?
 
3:12 AM
niiice
 
@melak47 mimeme..
 
i happen to be reading 'the god delusion' written by the man who coined it as an internet term
 
He coined it as a biological term..
 
i know hes a biologist
 
but you said "coined it as an internet term" that's not true
the word meme is already butchered anyway
 
3:14 AM
its not? as defined i thought its a phenomenon that takes over the internet as if it has a life of it's own
 
maybe there are idiots out there who think memetics is something to do with the internet.
Wouldn't surprise me
@c0dem0nkey I do not know or claim to know who decided to use the word "meme" to describe internet culture.
But I know it wasn't Dawkins.
 
Memetics is a theory of mental content based on an analogy with Darwinian evolution, originating from the popularization of Richard Dawkins' 1976 book The Selfish Gene.[1] It purports to be an approach to evolutionary models of cultural information transfer.
so maybe yea it was after that used on the net
 
Yes
 
with all the 9gag stuff and all
 
Internet memes are from the early 2000s
9gag is from late 2000s.
 
3:17 AM
i was very young then lol.
have no idea
 
righto.
Like all things on the internet, it was used by someone and it caught on.
You don't collectively agree on these things, they just happen.
 
i dont really. specially with the music genre these days. im not old but
somehow doesnt make sense anymore
no offense.
 
?
 
does anybody know an affordable laptop/notebook/? with a quadcore i5 or i7, 8GB+ RAM, recent dedicated GPU, 1080p screen? :S
 
YEA A NETBOOK QUESTION
 
3:20 AM
Don't get a netbook
 
?!? note book
 
I doubt he wants one anyway, he said *note*book.
 
ory notebook
 
stupid letdown. :(
Shittiest parser ever
 
lol
 
3:21 AM
@melak47 look at you, 8 GB+ RAM laptop, quadcore i5/i7 and you want it to be affordable?
recent dedicated GPU too.
 
Roflmao.
 
yea that was my question too
LOL
 
Suicidal.
Also @Rapptz Hey, I do not cry like a bitch. :c
 
@Rapptz well, there's no sense in getting a dual core 4GB+ thing with crappy GPU. I already have one like that.
 
My tears are manly tears of manly manliness.
 
3:22 AM
I don't know a lot about mobile GPUs.
 
@melak47 Looking at 1.5K USD plus.
 
Yeah dude what you're looking for seems expensive as fuck
I'll look anyway
 
I've been looking at the Asus N56VZ, but it's taking it's sweet time getting any cheaper... currently sells for 950 to 1050€
 
I'm interested and bored and don't want to work on this parser
 
lol
 
3:23 AM
What he's talking about is similar to what I bought.
Except my screen isn't 1080p.
 
> filtered to 8 GB RAM
> 16 results
whoo selection
 
:/
preferrably it should be upgradable to 16GB, too :p
 
I have quadcore i7, 1600 x 900 resolution, 12 GB RAM,
dedicated NVIdia GPU
 
wtf, 12?
8+4?
who does that o.O
 
4x3 O_o
 
3:26 AM
a laptop with 3 RAM slots? ..okay :/
what did you pay for that, @ThePhD
 
could be 4 but one is unused
 
I paid like
1.7K?
1.8K?
the 12 GB ram was the kicker for more money
I miss my 8 GB 1080p Qosmio though.
1920 x 1080 was GLORIOUS
Settling for 1600 x 900 is balls.
 
why did you...downgrade ._.
 
i7, 32GB, 2xGTX690 here. On 2x fullHD 24" Samsung LEDs. :Đ
 
WELL GEE
RUB IT IN SOME MORE.
 
3:28 AM
Found this
Didn't look too closely though
 
@DomagojPandža I have three screens on my desktop. :p
But I'm looking at laptops .p
 
I didn't really downgrade.
 
My third is also a laptop. :D Wanted to put 30" Dells, but that would require buying a new desk. I don't understand desk shopping. :$
 
I have more RAM, a way better GPU (like, 600 series in my laptop)
 
@Rapptz unfortunately all dual cores :/
 
3:30 AM
quadcore, i7, etc.
 
yeah bad screen too
 
The onyl thing that went down was the Resolution.
 
To anyone:
I recently gave an answer which I would like to get some feedback/have some discussion on:
http://stackoverflow.com/a/15032415/834176
 
Don't care.
 
@Kazark save should take a stream, not a path.
 
3:31 AM
@EtiennedeMartel ostream? :3c
 
No results for quad core processor lol
 
@ThePhD I guess that's my problem. I have a 1600x900 screen now, and I never want to use one again
 
@EtiennedeMartel Right.
 
@melak47 Lol
I know how you feel.
 
For me, I've always included parameter names in declarations, well almost always. Helps to identify in quick .h inspections, helps automatic docs and Intellisense goodness.
 
3:32 AM
1920 x 1080, even on lower specs, was GLORIOUS.
GLOOORIOOOUUUS
 
I was fishing for an example which was not out of my company's codebase
and that is what I thought of.
 
You should also include parameter names in declarations, but they can also be defaulted.
 
@ThePhD Did you read the question there?
 
Nope. :3c
 
3:34 AM
@ThePhD Try 2560x1440 or higher :$
 
only result that matches your specifications btw
 
@DomagojPandža on a 15" laptop?
inb4 macbook
 
@DomagojPandža But what about what I said? If you name the function well, and it does not have excessive parameters, some of the reasons you give may be extraneous.
 
void DoStuff ( int, int, int, Baz, Qux, Titties& ); <--- Stuff all that into the function name.
 
evening gents
 
3:35 AM
@Kazark Maybe, for me, parameter names are a bit of the function naming convention. Objective-C, for example, emphasizes on this by almost intertwining them together. :D
 
@ThePhD In my answers, I argued against writing functions like that.
 
@ThePhD You sure you like tits huh?
 
@Rapptz I actually use Tits as a curse word.
 
@Rapptz I...I don't know what an AMD A10 is :S
 
@melak47 Google it you lazy lazy person
 
3:36 AM
@DomagojPandža q_q you cheat.
 
It's a quad core processor though
 
@Borgleader it's a good thing today nobody fell asleep :D last year 1 guy did haha
 
I only know this kind of A10 :p
 
@ThePhD It's glorious. :$
 
@DomagojPandža Oh yeah? I'm not familiar with Objective C.
 
3:36 AM
@emartel Some guy fell asleep? That's surprising. The presentation was really interesting!
 
q_q WTB 2560 x 1440 monitor.
 
@Borgleader yay... it's pretty hard to do something like this when you're an introvert programmer :P even just calling to order a pizza makes me shy haha
 
Heh, I know how you feel.
 
@ThePhD Actually, they're not that rare anymore, a few years back, I saw a Dell 27" @ 2560x1440 with decent response times - $1000. :D
 
@ThePhD I bought one from korea. :p
@DomagojPandža that one sells for around 500€ here now
 
3:38 AM
@ThePhD expensive still yo :(
looking like $500-700
 
I know. D:
Fuck that. I could get some real computer parts with that money.
 
who cares if its expensive, programmers make big bucks right? :D
 
It was really neat because I know quite a few of us have had an AI class and while interesting it was hard to see how the concepts could be applied in "real world applications". And you gave a bunch of examples so that was cool :)
 
I paid 350€ for my korean screen
 
Oh well. 1920 x 1080 will do.
 
3:38 AM
Sure, you could buy two (almost three) 24" fullHD LEDs for that money, but there is something to be said about clustered, non-seamed displays. :D
 
@emartel Big bucks, yes. Just not enough of them! :-)
 
@Borgleader ahh excellent :)
@JerryCoffin is it even possible to have "enough" money? :P
@Borgleader I'm surprised that there's 3 girls in your class, that's pretty impressive!
 
Hah yeah that is above normal for our standards
We usually either have 1 or none at all
 
I see :)
 
I'm thinking of building a new PC
 
3:40 AM
it's a shame, girls are really useful on a project
they usually thing very differently
*think
 
With stuff like Eyefinity, with three HD displays, you get a "curved" angle of vision and a kicking resolution of 1920x3 * 1080 = 5760x1080. :D
 
@Kazark That said, I always write code with the help of stuff like IntelliSense, so my IDE gives me the name of the parameter anyway.
 
@EtiennedeMartel Right. That makes sense. If you have a good IDE every single time you look at the code, my argument is decreased.
 
However, three 2560x1440 displays in the same configuration give you 7680x1440. And a shitload of pixels more to fill with your GPUs. :D
 
@Kazark And writing in something as verbose as C++ without an IDE is painful.
 
3:41 AM
@Kazark in this day and age, why would you ever want to settle for a bad IDE? :)
 
@DomagojPandža my 670 can barely deal with playing on a single 2560x1440 screen :/
 
@emartel Yes. At one time I figured things up for Bill Gates. If his money was just in a saving account making 5% interest, he'd still have to spend ~$3 million/day just to use up the interest. Think about that. Day 1, you buy a really cool house. Day 2, every awesomely cool car -- ever. Day 3...10 you save up for a custom 747. But after a month at this rate, what's left to buy? How many islands and mansions do you honestly have any use for at all?
 
@emartel Speaking of which. My 4th "projet intégrateur" is the Ubisoft Academia competition. And our team is 6 programmers from Poly and 3 students from CentreNAD (2 of which are girls) and it always surprises us how differently they think.
 
@emartel I am one of those weirdos that feel like writing code outside of Vim is painful.
 
@JerryCoffin at one point you can start buying bankrupt countries and play SimCity in real life :D
 
3:43 AM
@EtiennedeMartel I use a text editor!
 
But I am also of the mindset that being able to look at the code and read it very cleanly
 
@Borgleader Those damn artists.
 
I live.
 
@JerryCoffin Form the United Federation of Planets, finance the development for a Mars colony and FTL drive research?
 
without needing to dig in and use IntelliSense does enhance code readability.
 
3:43 AM
@DomagojPandža ...which still sucks for programming, because you really need more vertical than that.
 
@EtiennedeMartel Actually that's a good thing. We suck at this "being creative" thing.
 
@Borgleader I know.
 
@DomagojPandža That could use up a fair amount of money pretty quickly...
 
found a store that'd sell the asus one I'm looking at for 905€ (~$1200) hmm...
 
@JerryCoffin True, but Dells can be rotated into a 1440x2560 mode. :D
 
3:45 AM
@Borgleader good :) but you ahve to be careful with them... on AC I was working next to a woman programmer, and there's nothing more frustrating than still being in the office at 2AM and turn to see what she's doing, and she's trimming the tip of her hair... wtf! we have bugs to fix! D:
 
You just need that special basis with a large, modular backside. I've seen those available. :D
4320x2560, not bad. :D
 
@emartel o.O damn... We only had one woman programmer on TR and she was pretty good.
 
haha nice, I just UNregistered from a mailing list... and they're sending me a confirmation by email, wtf :)
@Borgleader the asian girl?
 
Yeah
 
yeah I heard she's good
but she looks really "cold" :/
 
3:47 AM
can I afford to spend 900€ on a laptop? I dunno because my stupid bank has their website off for maintenance! grrr
 
Sounds like you're describing my ex-gf
 
I think she's just shy because she actually seemed pretty nice when I had to work with her. She was on my strike team when we neared beta.
 
im baack
 
oh no D: quick, hide!
 
@melak47 this means yes :D
 
3:48 AM
lol.
 
@Borgleader oh good, I just never saw her smile hehe
 
i smelled someone talking bout tits so i came back
 
Oh, I forgot to ask you when you were there. Do you know if all the intern spots have been filled?
 
@DomagojPandža I think I'd prefer three of these turned to vertical.
 
@c0dem0nkey you should get your nose checked, we're actually talking about "fellow programmers who happen to be female" ;)
@Borgleader I'll check tomorrow, can you send me an email so I don't forget?
 
3:50 AM
@emartel theres a nicer way to put it. lol
 
@emartel Sure, on your gmail?
 
yup
please, I'm getting old, my memory sucks :)
 
@JerryCoffin Damn, that's hardcore. So is the price tag. :D
 
@JerryCoffin people still make 16:10 screens? :D
 
Oh hey, Flexo/awoodland is running for mod again.
 
3:51 AM
@emartel I have never witnessed a female programmer worthy of the title. Except Cicada, of course. <3
 
You know what we need to do. :)
 
i never actually me met a super hot programmer
 
@DomagojPandža she's a boy now. don't you read the star board?:p
 
I really like when head hunters write to me saying how I'm supposed to be a "world renown guy" or whatever crap they say to convince me, and they fail to understand that I'm not a graphics programmer haha
 
@melak47 I wish they still made 4:3 (at least for programming). That one is on closeout though (unfortunately). Wait -- no it's not. A different model is.
 
3:52 AM
@DomagojPandža I did, many times
I also worked with total morons who are really hot so they get nerds to cover up for them
 
@emartel That's because we graphics programmers are beautiful people. Although I prefer the term "rendering architect", makes me feel all important and worthy of breathing air. :D
 
@c0dem0nkey I did a few times, my first boss at nortel networks was a really hot redhead
 
but ive had admins who were really hot
 
@DomagojPandža hehe yeah, architect always sounds nice, but I'd never trust a programmer to be a REAL architect, the building would fall before even being done building :P
Also, for those who don't know, Jade Raymond used to be a programmer
 
Oh damn.... really? o.O
 
3:54 AM
(used to be a host on G4 Tech Tv, producer of assassin's creed and studio direction @ Ubi Toronto)
 
@JerryCoffin "HUXGA, an abbreviation for Hex[adecatuple] Ultra Extended Graphics Array, is a display standard that can support a resolution of roughly 6400×4800 pixels with a 4:3 aspect ratio. The name comes from it having sixteen (hexadecatuple) times as many pixels as an UXGA display." Sounds intense
Does this satisfy your needs Jerry?!
 
has anyone here used one of these newer asus laptops/ultrabooks/whatever? are the keyboards usable?
 
@Borgleader yep, and one night we were doing overtime really late, she told us that she didn't do much there, all the guys were doing her work for her... haha
 
@emartel Yeah, she was on the first Assassin's Creed before she was offered a post at the new Ubi Toronto studio as managing director?
 
@emartel I remember when she went to "Tout le monde en parle" and she was asked what her gamertag was and she said something like "You wont get me to say that on tv"
 
3:55 AM
@DomagojPandža yep she was, she left not long after the project was released
@Borgleader hahaha, some nerd even build her a fan page
 
I am not going to be that guy, but peer reviews suggest that Assassin's Creed I was arguably the worst And I will not point out any causal relationships which may or may not be a figment of my imagination. :D
 
oh god...
 
@DomagojPandža it was, we never had time to finish the gameplay part
 
"Official Unofficial site" -.-;
 
it's a great tech demo though
The final game is probably less than 50% of the original game design
 
3:57 AM
But AC II, Brotherhood, Revelations and III was terrific. The AI was not in the uncanny valley as with the first. :D
 
it was supposed to be WAY more RPGesque
@DomagojPandža no offense taken, I didn't work on the AI itself, I programmed the camera system :P
 
^anyone used one of these before?
 
@melak47 bad key layout :P
 
that keyboard looks nice :(
 
@melak47 you sound like aiming for large scale programming
 
3:59 AM
can't comment on the keys as it seems french
 
I'd be getting a german one
 
Looks Macbookish, but not quite. :D
 
but I'm more worried about the keyboard being usable for typing
 

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