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Bastion's soundtrack is nice.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes I bought it. I got the game later in a bundle in some manner.
 
Xeo
gaaah, I should disable Garmuth for the Who Knows Where thingies
@R.MartinhoFernandes ya
 
I have the physical thing.
 
Picking my favorite, I'd have to say that one.
 
12:03 AM
I'm a sucker for buying stuff in meatspace.
 
Well that what's remote code execution is
 
@CatPlusPlus Is that a fix for the issue they had some months ago, or a new one?
 
I don't know
But apparently there are nasty exploits in the wild
 
Xeo
@R.MartinhoFernandes I really like that one
Such a nice soundtrack for the level you first meet her
 
12:15 AM
and I thought I was mad for thinking the new internet at my student home is unstable
did some testing by contstantly pinging the router
dear god
 
@rightfold How boring. So nice that you are not a god.
Not my thing.
I'm listening to God is an Astronaut now.
Oh nice.
 
Unbreakable Machine-Doll looks promising.
@ScottW later
 
@ScottW Good luck.
 
Xeo
gaaaah, stupid eye-spawners
@StackedCrooked It seems to be pretty good
Breaker's Bow DoT + Leechade saving my ass in the third Who Knows Where
 
Just saw first ep. It was rather good.
 
Xeo
12:36 AM
Okay, 3rd Who Knows Where done. Conclusion: Fuck Garmuth for reflections.
Okay, sleep time
Also, @R.MartinhoFernandes, you're playing that game way too much :P
 
@Xeo Which game?
Oh.
Stupid process didn't die.
lol
 
Xeo
lol
The DirectX setup from Steam just crashes for me, so it retries every fucking time when I launch Bastion :/
 
Well, I played that game a lot years ago, so now it's probably more accurate :)
 
^^ "network-wide suspension"
sure...
 
12:45 AM
@sehe That's actually been around for a long time.
 
hmmm
visit Wikipedia: Chrome "waiting on plus.google.com".
 
Second ep of Unbreakable Machine-Doll was even more amazing. I'm starting to love this series :D
 
@StackedCrooked It's a weird show.
 
I just watched Attack on Titan, and holy shit. Watch it.
 
Yaya stops trying to get into Akabane's pants after episode 2.
 
12:55 AM
@Mysticial Oh no :(
 
@Mysticial What? Finds pants are yellow with purple polkadots, or what?
 
@StackedCrooked Is that a deal breaker for you? :)
 
lol, I'm not sure yet :)
 
@MartinJames Inside his pants. Not outside!
 
Ell
1:12 AM
google doodle is funny :3
Happy halloweeeen
Oh wait. It's been halloween for an hour
 
eh
fuck halloween
 
Ell
@DeadMG but sluts :(
 
what have sluts and halloween got to do with each other?
 
these days? everything
 
Ell
@DeadMG Some girls take halloween as an opportunity to dress and act like sluts :3
 
1:20 AM
I will never understand hardcore bands...
It is no wonder people are deaf.
 
@BartoszKP For what reason did you associate wine -> girl?
 
Might as well extend that to beer, it was brought up then too.
 
I'm seriously thinking of switching to using XCode.
 
What do you use now?
 
vim + make/clang++ + gdb
 
1:26 AM
No.
 
'Using computers, scientists simulate movement of largest-known dinosaur' - U**x dollar/hash prompt explained at last :)
 
@DeadMG that was quick. I never even saw it.
 
Still no.
 
@Domecraft You don't want to go that road, boy.
 
Why not?
 
1:27 AM
because
also, trust me, you get shitty feedback here except "It sucks".
 
@Jefffrey Ah. What shortcomings do you take notice in?
 
@Pawnguy7 I don't understand that question :/
 
@Jefffrey what makes you want to switch?
@Domecraft > Proficiency with Visual Basic/C++
You don't think those are the same, do you?
 
I use Sublime Text 2 and GCC.
I don't debug so.
 
@Pawnguy7 Mainly the easy of use of the profile and gdb within the IDE.
 
1:30 AM
Use Qt Creator
 
Autocomplete is also nice, but not necessary.
 
It's a pretty good IDE.
 
I know. I have used it for my uni project.
 
Pretty sure I am more effective with autocomplete.
 
I might consider that as well.
 
1:30 AM
How is Visual basic and C++ the same?
 
They aren't. But you listed them together, like C/C++.
And those aren't the same either.
 
Qt Creator is my favourite IDE for GCC.
 
@Rapptz On what OS do you work on?
 
Also, as nice as the colors are, I am yet to see somebody draw useful information from a word cloud.
 
Windows.
 
1:32 AM
I know. I'm just too lazy so I put them on the same line. I'll work on it during the weekend, but I have to work on an essay for History for this week
I have to write on the effects of the industrial revolution in Britain
 
Your resume is probably not the best place to be lazy.
 
Night
 
Night.
Doesn't it seem odd saying that in the morning?
 
Maybe he is in a different location than you are
 
He is.
And it is like...
What was it? Past 2AM I think.
It is possible to be proficient in Javascript, with knowledge of HTML/CSS? Or can you never get proficient in it?
 
1:41 AM
IDK. I'm thinking about putting them in the same line since they're related to web development
 
They are.
It is just, I have heard people say.
They know javascript, but they don't really know HTML/CSS.
Which I cannot understand.
 
How is that even possible?
 
I don't know.
 
I learned js before css and html
 
What do you do with it?
 
1:47 AM
Well, not really html.
basic scripts for static webpages
don't have to know CSS for that
 
You do need HTML though.
Don't you?
 
kinda
this was a long time ago obviously
I wouldn't touch js now. Or web technologies in general.
 
The only other thing that comes to mind is like alert()
 
Why won't you touch js anymore?
 
Or whatever those other interfacing boxes are.
 
1:48 AM
It's the shittiest language I've ever used
 
Well, it's used on a lot of webpages now.
 
So?
Doesn't mean it isn't shitty.
 
Why don't you just use javascript frameworks then?
 
Because I'd still be using Javascript.
Honestly I hate the web development scene anyway so it doesn't matter.
 
Ell
I do hate JavaScript
so much undefined
 
1:50 AM
I suppose that's true
 
I hate "undefined".
And lack of a char.
Them combined screwed me.
Oh.
and failing silently.
 
Amazon is listing 'Lincoln' in the Hong Kong cinema blurays.
 
Alright. Here's a question: IDE or text editor? And if you pick text editor, why did you pick the text editor?
 
Depends. Am I writing Javascript?
 
No
 
1:53 AM
Well.
 
You're not writing in a web development language
 
I use a text editor
 
Then what do you pick
 
If something like C++, then yes. But that probably says more about my lack of skills.
 
IDEs feel too heavy.
 
Ell
1:54 AM
I agree
 
I only use IDEs if I'm doing like, a GUI application or something.
 
Ell
I just use gedit or vim or a text editor
 
@Rapptz I sometimes use visual basic just for the fun of it, like making a web browser in it.
 
Ell
plus cmake, g++/clang++, gdb and a terminal with bash
 
Web browser in VB?
 
Ell
1:55 AM
There is. aweb browser widget
 
An actual web browser, or one internally using IE?
 
I'm not to sure... Is the web browser widget using IE?
 
Ell
Yeah
 
I'd be surprised if it didn't.
 
Hmm... I guess it's good for the coding experience? Meh, who am I kidding. It's just fun using a GUI i made in my comp sci. Class and when my teacher asks me what browser I'm using I'll pretend I know how to program a web browser
 
1:58 AM
I saw something once.
Basically had buttons to go to, say, facebook.
Or... whatever other big sites.
 
Ell
A full web browser is an ambitious project indeed but I guess it could be done with lots of dedication
 
Well.
When is it done?
 
@Domecraft Vote to close. Based almost entirely on opinion (and lacks a clear definition of the dividing line between editor and IDE anyway).
 
@Pawnguy7 When is what done
 
A "full web browser."
 
2:01 AM
I'm thinking something that has the functionality of Internet Explorer 8 or better
 
Am I crazy or wasn't Moon (the movie) available for streaming at some point? ISTR something promotional at one point or the other.
 
2:11 AM
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A: Physics is rotting into a bad situation, a request for community manager intervention

Shog9 I want to know if the main moderation team at StackExchange (someone other than the current involved moderators at Phys.SE) can intervene and solve the issues. We really need help. Be careful what you ask for... The last time we had to step in and help moderate Physics.SE (as in, daily flag-...

^^ shog is pissed
 
I hate it when I try to wake up the hibernating PC and the keystroke gets sent on the chat
 
What I hate.
Is when for whatever reason, it hibernates.
Then pressing the power button doesn't wake it up.
Unless I close the lid and do it again :\
 
> error C2676: binary '[' : 'bla' does not define this operator or a conversion to a type acceptable to the predefined operator
> or a conversion to a type acceptable to the predefined operator
does this mean I can provide a conversion operator to any type that has operator[], or just primitive types (so, arrays, pointers, ?)
 
Sigh.
I am pretty sure this person is arguing against a perceived attack that isn't there.
It is so hard to leave it, but I doubt it will stop otherwise.
 
@Sklivvz you know absolutely nothing about me, who I am or what I am doing in the "real world", Dimension10 is too young to be an academic (he is only 14 years old, which is easily confirmed when you listen to him explaining physics equations in his Youtube videos), and Ron has a degree in physics and was offerd a PhD position about a topic which he proved himself wrong by mathematical and theoretical considerations (something related to extra-dimensional model building, which is by now disproved experimentally too). So please to not make unfounded assumptions about people you dont know ;-). — Dilaton 11 mins ago
@Dilaton, I'm a bit confused. Skliwz said they are not professional physicists. Your argument is that they are not only not professional physicists, but they also aren't academic physicists either? — jmac 5 mins ago
^^ PWNED
 
2:27 AM
Is there a nonoffensive way to say "google it"?
It would be very useful, I think.
Like.
I don't know how many times people just say it outright.
Or worse yet, lmgtfy.
And yet... not once did that make me feel encouraged to do that. If anything, the opposite.
 
theres no nice way to say "it would actually be faster to google it than taking the time to ask this, so why dont you?"
tl;dr; youre lazy
 
how is saying "google it" offensive
you want to know how to find out? I told you.
 
most of the time if people ask a question they either have and got no results or don't know exactly what they're looking for
 
@Crowz eh
that really depends on who's asking and where
 
@melak47 Google it to find an answer.
 
2:33 AM
@LucDanton I'm offended!
 
like today I knew what I wanted to do but it was so complex that I couldn't really narrow it down to a single search... asked someone and they told me it'd be the python requests library, good from there
 
maybe it could work if you did it the SO way...reply "what have you tried/found out so far?" :p
 
Well.
Every time I have had a complex problem.
I already have done that.
Like a slap in the face.
Which, granted, many people including myself are lazy.
But the response did not make me less lazy.
Perhaps it is like networking.
You try to accept as much as you can, and not take offense.
And in the same way, try to make what you say as non-offensive as possible, unless of course you do go around calling names all day, hoping for damage.
Does nobody else think this is a problem?
 
2:56 AM
@Mysticial I think I might have to email him and invite him out for a beer. He needs a chance to relax a little.
 
doitdoitdoitdoit
 
@Mysticial Looking for email address now (I think I had it here somewhere...)
 
Something like shog@SE? Or something like that?
oh, shog@so
Though he probably gets spammed by whiny users.
 
@Mysticial Probably. You never know--mine might get through. Worth trying anyway.
 
make the subject "FREE BEER CLICK NOW"
 
3:01 AM
Oh, but I really can't tonight, and tomorrow's Halloween, so probably not then either. Shit.
 
@JerryCoffin Maybe if you put, "URGENTTTT code no work plzzzzzzzzzz halp!!!" in the title it might get his attention.
 
@Mysticial Oh yeah, that'd definitely do the trick.
@Shog9 are you around?
Seems like that's not going very far.
 
And we're not mod. So we can't like super ping him or something.
 
@Mysticial You suppose some random flags would get his (or at least some moderator's) attention? :-)
 
ahahahaha
 
3:08 AM
> Bestellschluss für Lieferung am Montag (ausschließlich Kindergärten) ist Mittwoch, 24.00 Uhr.
So they have special rules for delivering to kindergartens?
I guess they do. Weird shop.
 
What is this thing with random cash gifts - I have received 3 in the last 2 weeks - total amount $1600 -$1700. Didn't ask for it, didn't expect it.
 
@LucDanton That does sounds strange, at least at first blush. The only thing I can think of is that (at least here in the US) many kindergartens close relatively early (like their school day runs only from 0800 to noon, or something like that). If they do many deliveries in the afternoon, I can see where that could require an extra day.
@User17 They were really meant for me. Give me my money now!
 
@JerryCoffin Yup, they don't so much ship their stuff as they deliver it themselves, which I didn't expect at first. (Incidentally they don't exactly come around here.) The extra funny bit is that I was ordering beer -- I did figure out eventually that they sell other stuff, too.
 
@JerryCoffin lol, if my company ever becomes big, I will hire you for a very handsome sum. Although I doubt it will happen, not any time soon anyways >_<
 
@LucDanton Obviously you need to order the beer delivered to a kindergarten!
 
3:19 AM
Oh, so I can pick it up there. Makes sense!
 
@LucDanton Well, at least assuming there's a kindergarten near your flat (or house, or whatever).
 
Would need to be a kindergarten in neighbouring Germany.
 
TIL Qt uses SFINAE internally
(I guess, I should say, TIL about QEnableIf lol)
 
@LucDanton Well, as I recall, if you're in/near Strassbourg, Baden Baden wouldn't be terribly far. Not quite so convenient to Bordeaux though... :-)
 
Good recollection. You can change countries without leaving the train station.
Well, it's likely that it's more of a 'convenience' like they do in airports but it's not like you can notice the difference.
Oh wait I'm thinking of Mulhouse. I'm the one not recalling things right.
 
3:31 AM
@LucDanton Yeah -- Strasbourg to Baden Baden is something like 15 or maybe even 20 whole minutes if I recall correctly.
 
Again, aother site for ordering deliveries rather than sending orders. So perhaps this isn't so uncommon.
Third one.
They're probably too busy delivering their beer within Germany and then drinking it to deal with foreign orders.
 
@LucDanton I guess you're just stuck with switching to wine! :-)
 
And another one. Do DHL & others suck so much that everyone and their brothers are buying trucks and hiring drivers?
 
I'm going to assume my package doesnt have the tracking option because its been telling me it's in NJ since Oct 26th (that or the shipping company sucks ballz)
 
@LucDanton At a guess, it's a less a matter of somebody deciding they suck, and more a matter of seeing they're making money (and thinking "Hey, even I could do that!)
 
3:43 AM
how do I pass computer architecture while working 40 hours a week?
 
spend the rest 24x7 - 40 - 7.5x7 hours studying it
Life is all about priorities
 
It's also occuring to me that the surprising bit isn't so much that there are local delivery services with an online presence, but more that I can't seem to Google-fu my way out of those :(
 
everyone has 24 hours a day
 
@Crowz Depends on the school and prof. At Stanford, it appears that simply learning to mumble things like "RISC Rocks!", and "MIPS was the best" is sufficient. Other places have slightly different biases though.
 
Also cramming seems to work if you are intelligent enough
 
3:47 AM
@JerryCoffin I go to easymode state uni ._.
 
@User17 Just take out a huge student loan and then after your degree skip the country
 
Explains why I remember so little nowadays
 
@Crowz In that case, it may be more difficult (knowing how things go).
 
Once I went through 100+ pages engineering book the night before a test and got distinction (knew literally nothing before that)
@Chad what if you like the country where you did your uni?
 
@User17 Was a suggestion ;)
 
3:51 AM
@User17 I've found that quite a few tests "leak" enough information that studying isn't necessary at all. I successfully tested out of a couple of classes without knowing anything about the subject matter when I started the test.
 
The uni I attended fail 30%-40% students in the first 2 years for every subject ... used to for undergrads anyways.
 
@User17 At least to me, that mostly sounds like a poor match between entrance requirements and classes.
@ScottW Definitely a handy skill to have.
 
I don't suppose there's a de-macrofy extension for VS that renames CRAP_LIKE_THIS to, idk, CrapLikeThis?
all the shouting makes my ears hurt
 
4:10 AM
whats the animation with the guy in the red suit and hat saying "yeeeess yess"
 
@JerryCoffin also in the top 10%-20% of the classess when I was on exchange to the university of california, although half of the time I was partying with flatmates, their friends or the guy I was dating at the time. I used speed for exams (so I can study 20 hours a day when needed).
I still remember how to do it: crash the ice like crystal with ATM card, chop it up then crash it again. Repeat the process until it is in powder form. Use the card to put it in a line then roll your $1 note into a pipe and snort it.
But that's the only period when I used illegal drugs, have not touch it since
Some of my uni friends here also shared marijuana pipes. I wasn't into it.
 
@ScottW Thanks
@ScottW solved a problem at work and put him on the large screen
 
5:04 AM
Dammit. I googled around and it looks like other people with the same motherboard and memory as me are also having stability problems.
Time to swap memory with my other machine...
Dunno what I'm gonna do with 32GB on my main machine though.
bbl while I do surgery on the machine that I'm chatting with.
 
Actually I received more random cash/gifts than I mentioned above -A$500 from my aunty (to help fixing my teeth), US$200-$300 from another aunty, A$1000 from my grandpa (he doesn't what to do with his cash), a bag from my aunty & uncle here (full price $495) .. $150-$200 somewhere else. All in the same month.
 
@Mysticial I think I got lucky so far. Never even checked the motherboard supported RAM list, and never had a problem with any of my PCs :p
 
Talking about my luck ...
Waiting for something extreme terrible to happen now ...
Mean while, getting back to work ...
 
5:20 AM
can you use a conversion operator in a natvis DisplayString? :S
 
@ScottW I beat you to it.
2 hours ago, by Jerry Coffin
@User17 They were really meant for me. Give me my money now!
@melak47 What's a "natvis DisplayString"?
 
@JerryCoffin natvis files are XML files that let you specify how the debugger visualizes them
 
@melak47 I see.
 
I have this half precision float type, with just a uint16_t representation, and I want to display a std::array<half, (2, 3 or 4)> with the float representations
 
5:38 AM
@melak47 Things just took a turn for the worst.
I'm on my laptop now.
I put a ram stick in backwards. And apparently that fried something. I could smell burning.
 
@Mysticial what, did you pull out the GPU while it was still running because it was so silent? :p
oh :(
 
And now my Sandy Bridge machine won't post.
It was dark in the case. I didn't realize the notch was on the wrong side.
FUCK
 
how can you even put it in the wrong way around? it shouldn't fit
 
Apparently it did.
And it clicked too.
So I'm ripping the rig apart down to bare bones.
 
did you just kill your 2600K? ;_;
 
5:40 AM
@melak47 Either that or the motherboard.
Most likely the motherboard.
But I'm probably never gonna know.
Since I don't have a spare compatible motherboard. And I'm not gonna invest anymore money into it.
By the looks of it, I'm gonna have to do an emergency switch to the new AMD rig (using the old memory).
 
why were you putting the new memory in the old rig?
 
And I'll be building a Haswell machine in the upcoming week or so to take over as the new compute machine.
@melak47 The new memory wasn't compatible with the new rig.
I found out today when I googled it and other people were having the same problem.
 
oh
 
But as of right now, I'm 99% sure my Sandy Bridge rig is done for.
 
on the plus side, you probably broke the RAM slot when you forced it in the wrong way around anyway :v
 
5:43 AM
:v
 
And I'm pretty close to maxing out my credit card from the new rig. So I can't build a new one right away.
 
guess you'll be having fun with those instruction sets
 
I have 9 hard drives to dismount from that machine.
Guess they'll have a new home now.
Fuck... This can't be happening but it is...
And unlike my workstation, this one isn't RMAable due to overclocking.
 
just reset the bios
:p
> Breaking news: Bulldozer demolishes Sandy Bridge, 4 RAM sticks in uncertain condition
7
 
In any case, I should be switching everything over to the AMD rig now instead of ripping apart my 2600K rig.
Because I have no usable computer right now.
Aside from this laptop.
 
5:48 AM
that sucks :/
 
6:02 AM
Currently transferring that video card over...
 
6:30 AM
First time chatting from the AMD rig.
 

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