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@LucDanton I honestly don't know :( I do know there are some IPA diacritcs that affect that, which might make it worse.
@R.MartinhoFernandes Wiki on the umlaut sez '[...] or a front vowel becomes closer to /i/', which is what I was describing.
Ah, not "diacritics", but "suprasegmentals" (whatever that is)
Well actually that doesn't necessarily take into account length. Better read on.
1 hour ago, by R. Martinho Fernandes
@LucDanton The colon (ɛː) makes it longer.
(That's not a colon, btw, it just looks like one)
Makes a nice smiley ɛ:
jesus this is really annoying. avira AV blocking access to "foo.exe" and popping up a zillion warnings. shitty av
i'm uninstalling
pronto
@R.MartinhoFernandes I think French uses that 'extra-short' quite often.
@LucDanton There might be a problem in that slash-notation will often omit things like these "suprasegmentals", while bracket-notation won't, because slash-notation is intended to represent only the phonemes themselves, while bracket-notation is meant to describe as accurately as possible/desired the speech (in theory, one could faithfully reproduce an accent they never heard by reading sufficiently detailed bracket-notation).
So, basically, take slash-notation with a grain of salt. /dɛt/ means there is a "d" consonant, an "ɛ" vowel, and a "t" vowel, but it does not mean the vowel is short. [dɛt] does.
@R.MartinhoFernandes Ya, and since according to investigations so far, short vs long e.g. 'ö' is not the same sound, that should be enough information.
Although I do need a snack if I want to read on.
Sounds like a good idea.
@thecoshman For starters, things like ligatures mess up everything. Then there are some combining marks that surround the entire character. Either you explicitly don't support things like this, or your monospaced font will have a very large "unit of width" for it to be readable with common text.
12:21
I see there's an exciting conversation about letters
@thecoshman But if you only want to support Latin text you can (mostly) do fine with Latin-1.
@CatPlusPlus Well spotted!
@TonyTheLion His sharp feline eyes saw something mine never could.
@R.MartinhoFernandes @Xeo This should dispel (footnote 3) some of our earlier confusion.
If you can grok some of that phonology jargon that is. Sorry.
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12:31
Xeo
Xeo
@LucDanton Indeed does. Basically, we were both right.
@Zoidberg Fuck you. Now I'm hungry.
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Yes, school's Java exercise, you totally represent the color attribute of a Shape class using a String.
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Totally makes sense. Perfect typing.
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public class Point {
   // Private variables
   private int x;    // x co-ordinate
   private int y;    // y co-ordinate
   public Point (int x, int y) {......}
   public int getX() {......}
   public int getY() {......}
   public void setX(int x) {......}
   public void setY(int y) {......}
   public void setXY(int x, int y) {......}
}
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Oh my fucking God. Getters and setters on a fucking Point class.
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12:39
What is wrong with these idiots.
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And those terrible comments. Yes, you moron, I can see those are private variables and yes, I can see those are the X and Y coordinates.
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@Zoidberg Atleast the methods don't have comments. :>
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@Xeo I left // Constructor and // Public methods out to prevent Giant-Wall-o'-Code.
Xeo
Xeo
...
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Yes, this should really be done using setters and getters. We might once change the internal representation of a point. Yes, really. Totally makes sense. Yes.
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12:43
I refuse to do this exercise.
meh
unlucky you
@Zoidberg Perfect typing. You know: much typing -> exercise yields mastery
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I mean strong typing.
You strong mean bastard!
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As in, strings represent series of characters, not colors.
12:45
@Zoidberg Also, no javadoc, also why co-ordinate etc.
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If you want to represent a color, make a Color type.
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This is like using a bool for gender.
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bool gender = true;
Yeah. Make it at least a tribool, or enum gender { male, female, eunuch, hermaphrodite, other };
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enum class gender {male, female};
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12:47
As for unknown/none: boost::optional<gender> and problem solved.
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Or, in Java, null because you're terrible.
@Zoidberg Some people have no gender.
@Zoidberg Not quite.
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@R.MartinhoFernandes wat
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Intersex, in humans (not to be confused with hermaphroditism), is variation in sex characteristics including chromosomes, gonads, and/or genitals that do not allow an individual to be distinctly identified as female/male sex binary. Such variation may involve genital ambiguity, and combinations of chromosomal genotype and sexual phenotype other than XY-male and XX female. As with all humans, gender identity for intersex individuals may often be complicated. Some individuals may be raised as a certain gender but then identify with another later in life, while others may not identify them...
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TIL :P
12:50
@Zoidberg Sex is fucked up.
hehehe
Well played
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At least onebox didn't pick that one image.
So yeah, bool gender might make sense.
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bool has_gender, then. :v
Also, das Mädchen? Fuck you German.
12:51
enum sex { yes_please, no_thanks };
@R.MartinhoFernandes lol
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@R.MartinhoFernandes "-chen" means something like "little" and is always genderless.
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In Dutch, you also say "het meisje".
@Zoidberg Haha, look at the clever kid that knows all the rules. Except the exceptions. It isn't always genderless...
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Exceptions are terrible.
Xeo
Xeo
12:53
@R.MartinhoFernandes There's also "Die Magd", which I think is the origin of "Mädchen".
@R.MartinhoFernandes When isn't it?
@Xeo Teacher said it's only ninety-something percent of the time. I don't remember if she gave an example.
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@Xeo der 4chen
Xeo
Xeo
@Zoidberg That's still "das" :P
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Brainfart. :P
Xeo
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12:54
lol
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I just woke up1
you lazy piece of shit
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@R.MartinhoFernandes Yeah, off the top of my head I also can't think of a counterexample.
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> Diminutives are always neutral as for grammatical gender, regardless of the original word.
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In language structure, a diminutive, It is the opposite of an augmentative. While many languages apply the grammatical diminutive to nouns, a few also use it for adjectives and even other parts of speech (see Dutch, Italian, Latin, Romanian, Portuguese, Polish, Russian, Slovene, and Yiddish examples below). Diminutives are often used for the purpose of expressing affection (see nickname and hypocoristic). In many languages, the meaning of diminution can be translated "tiny" or "wee", and diminutives are used frequently when speaking to small children; adult people sometimes use diminutives...
12:58
@Xeo eine Mädel, ein Mädchen?
@R.MartinhoFernandes Supposedly the correct way to refer to/address the prime minister is madame le ministre / le premier ministre, when she is a woman. Although I don't think a lot of people would raise eyebrows if you used la ministre -- reportedly that's even what they use in Quebec. Similarly there's a subtle (and somewhat sorry) difference between madame l'ambassadrice and madame l'ambassadeur.
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@sehe "Eine Magd" :P
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> Diminutive of Magd, compare to Mädel, another diminutive of Magd, and German Maid, cognate to maiden.
@Xeo fixed. wasn't my point, really. I was doubting the relation with Magd. But see ^
I don't think there's the same 'logic' when it comes to la boulangère. (Which is why I think the former is a sorry distinction.)
Xeo
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13:00
@sehe "Eine Mädel" is wrong.
@Xeo Oh damn. Yeah I know. I was just blind editing. I'm way too busy at work. Sorry
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@TonyTheLion faggot.
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lol
13:02
lol
lol
@sehe you missed the picture I posted of you yesterday?
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lol
@TonyTheLion why do think so? It's defrosted now
14 hours ago, by Tony The Lion
@sehe is waiting for his dinner to defrost :P
lol
Get a microwave.
13:03
@TonyTheLion late. not lol
@sehe oh cause I got no silly reply to it from you, which is normally why I post these things. :)
2 mins ago, by sehe
@Xeo Oh damn. Yeah I know. I was just blind editing. I'm way too busy at work. Sorry
oh ok
at least some people are actually doing work
most of us are bullshitting ourselves about how we are doing work, when really we're just chatting.
There is a solution for that.
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I'm not doing any work.
13:06
@R.MartinhoFernandes yes, never enter this room again.
@R.MartinhoFernandes Yeah Lounge<Work>
oh the pain in contemplating that
also, this is priceless
I think reddit is a worse procrastination aid for you.
@R.MartinhoFernandes Funnily enough, you're right. :P
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@TonyTheLion Thank you for wasting my time with something not funny at all. :<
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13:07
I was hoping the father got a fine or something. :(
@Zoidberg Wasn't supposed to be funny
@Zoidberg you fucking sick motherfucking piece of shit.
go back to 4chan
@TonyTheLion Also, that's not funny at all. It's basically a certificate of impotence on the part of the parent
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@TonyTheLion THEN Y U POST IT IN LOUNGE<C++>. :'(
Not everything I post here is supposed to be funny
@Zoidberg lol. that'd be good. Perhaps it was a mom
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13:08
Not? Hmm.
@sehe well hopefully son will have learned that he should wear his seatbelt
@TonyTheLion It wan't priceless either. FAIL
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@sehe Yes, a mom is totally called "Jeff".
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It was just Atwood.
You guys have no sense of "Pricelessness"
13:09
I't not funy.
is that English?
Partially.
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@sehe It was; he didn't get a fine.
@TonyTheLion Sad story. Parents need to scare kids into common sense by taking them to gunwielding officers of the law?
@Zoidberg But that's not fine
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Fine.
13:10
@sehe Seems some do.
Parents do all kind of manipulative stuff to their kids.
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Sinterklaas is een leugen.
lol
@Zoidberg I remember when I was told that by my parents.
@Zoidberg Oh, you don't really expect me to look at the metadata? I'm conditioned from looking at code like this:
		public void GenerateFirstTableRow(Table table, int depth)
		{
			// Make a new TableRow
			TableRow tableRow = new TableRow();
			// Set CssClass for TableRow
			tableRow.CssClass = tableHeaderRowCssClass;
			// Increase depth with number of valueCells
			depth += numberOfValueCells;
			// Make a new TableCell
			TableCell tableCell = new TableCell();
			// Set CssClass for TableCell
			tableCell.CssClass = tableHeaderCellCssClass;
			// Set ColumnSpan = depth
			tableCell.ColumnSpan = depth;
@Zoidberg Indeed. You are naughty? I'll tell Sinterklaas. Kid doesn't want to walk anymore? Ok mom says, I'll leave you then. Bye! Etc..
13:11
I habitually skip non-content. To the point where I just don't see it
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@sehe where is that terrible crap written by fmorons from?
@StackedCrooked Yeah, but there are gradations. Also, not all manipulation uses external power plays
@sehe ugly stateful code.
@Zoidberg Our code base.
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@sehe oh God.
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13:13
Ik heb medelijden met je.
@StackedCrooked Comments are state, now? Of course I refactored
@Zoidberg If you think that's bad I pity you.
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Y U NO var.
Anyways, it's not really representative. This is code from 2005 and apparently had been written by external parties. But I still had to read it today
@Zoidberg Because the code was .Net 1.0, that's why?
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Remove the comments and commit "unmoronify code". xD
13:14
// Set ColumnSpan = depth
tableCell.ColumnSpan = depth;
How informative :)
@thecoshman No, I don't think I can do that. I mean, I am aware of a bunch of things you can do, but I have no experience with that at all.
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A: In my code scoped_ptr points to a stack variable -- does that extend the lifetime of the stack variable?

Cheers and hth. - AlfYou ask: “is the usage of the 'cfgChildLines', which points to tempTag, valid past the end of the if block?” No, of course it's not valid. You have UB. Stop doing that. Note: The SO moderator Bill the Lizard deleted my previous answer which was literally the same, presumably ...

@R.MartinhoFernandes well, it happens. It means software has value. You know, once it lives > 5 years, it apparently serves a purpose
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@Cheersandhth.-Alf Dat question. It's making me cringe.
13:16
		public void GenerateFirstTableRow(Table table, int depth)
		{
		    depth += numberOfValueCells;
		    var row = new TableRow
		        {
		            CssClass = tableHeaderRowCssClass
		        };

		    row.Cells.Add(new TableCell
		        {
		            CssClass = tableHeaderCellCssClass, ColumnSpan = depth, Text = "Onderbouwing"
		        });
			table.Rows.Add(row);
		}
@sehe Tell me you don't run CLR 1.0 still.
Slighlty cleaned up version
@R.MartinhoFernandes Of course not. We're moving from 3.5 to 4
@sehe You mean from 2.0 to 4.0? :P
a kangaroo has been arrested
13:16
@TonyTheLion Get to work
(There is no CLR 3.0)
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@sehe Get to work
@R.MartinhoFernandes hmm... perhaps I shall settle for simply pesturing you plenty :P
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Time to get my ass out of bed.
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See you later, humans.
13:18
@Zoidberg You have a donkey?
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@StackedCrooked How are donkeys relevant to getting out of bed?
@thecoshman That's ok. FWIW, once ogonek gets into a more fleshed out shape, I intend to make something that uses it, so I can both see and show what it looks like in practice. I was hoping to piggyback into Kyrostat but you guys suxxorz.
@Zoidberg You were the one that mentioned them. You answer.
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I never mentioned donkeys.
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Anyway, bye.
@R.MartinhoFernandes yeah... I am wanting to work on that more... but I am being cock blocked by link errors
13:20
The donkey or ass, Equus africanus asinus, is a domesticated member of the Equidae or horse family. The wild ancestor of the donkey is the African wild ass, E. africanus. The donkey has been used as a working animal for at least 5000 years. There are more than 40 million donkeys in the world, mostly in underdeveloped countries, where they are used principally as draught or pack animals. Working donkeys are often associated with those living at or below subsistence levels. Small numbers of donkeys are kept for breeding or as pets in developed countries. A male donkey or ass is called...
lol @Zoidberg fails in English
I wouldn't allow a donkey in my bed though.
That edit was important.
@StackedCrooked perhaps @Zoidberg has given his ass a bed of its own
13:23
@R.MartinhoFernandes probably. We're on 3.5 (that's a framework version, right). Anyways, we're on 3.5 :)
I guess the Book<C++> idea has also died
.NET 3.5 => C#3 => CLR 2.0
So, that's what I said
@R.MartinhoFernandes Yeah, I had a latent memory of that. But it was clear nonetheless :)
@TonyTheLion It died?
13:24
@TonyTheLion Agree
.NET 4.0 => C# 4 => CLR 4.0
.NET 4.5 => C# 5 => CLR 4.0
MS sucks at version numbers.
@StackedCrooked from looks of things... Not much is happening at all
but I could be wrong though
Only Pubby has ever done anything about it you lazy fucks!
You can't expect things to happen if you just sit around waiting for them to happen.
I will avoid mentioning Kyrostat.
I wasn't expecting anything
I was merely stating an observation I had made.
        public bool GetColumnSpan(bool columnSpan)
        {
            // Find columnSpan
            if (additionalColumn != 0)
            {
                columnSpan = true;
            }
            // Iterate
            foreach (ITreeNode treeNode in nodes)
            {
                if (!columnSpan)
                {
                    columnSpan = treeNode.GetColumnSpan(false);
                }
            }
            // Exit statement
            return columnSpan;
        }
Before ^ After:
13:28
@R.MartinhoFernandes Apple sucks more. Apple LLVM 4.1 => LLVM 3.1, yay o/
        return columnSpan ||
            additionalColumn != 0 ||
            nodes.Any(n => n.GetColumnSpan(false));
while(project.age_in_days() < 7){ if(random_bollean()){ do_work(); }}
random bollean <---- LOL
Ahahaha Lounge projects
13:30
shut up, it was easier then trying to write it properly
technically, I am still working on kyrostat, just cock blocked by link errors
"technically", lol
What isn't linking properly?
@R.MartinhoFernandes They obviously just didn't update the CLR bytecode this time around.
also, does markdown have any 'sub script' tag?
@thecoshman poor thing. what will you do when you find out that the passage of time was real
@R.MartinhoFernandes a function in glload that I require to get it initialised
@sehe ¬_¬
:O @sehe and @NolwennLeGuen are the same person
13:32
@DeadMG I suppose .NET 4.5 is obtained with the formula (C# 5 + CLR 4.0)/2.
But (C#3 + CLR 2.0)/2 = .NET 3.5 makes no sense.
@R.MartinhoFernandes I was about to say .NET {CLR version}.{C# version}
the language version of C#, the CLR, and the .NET version are all independent.
the fact that they usually operate in lockstep is immaterial
@DeadMG Oh, I know. I was joking.
gescheitert
13:37
lol
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Q: How to build Objective-c++ code using minGW or Clang?

TheCoderI have a complete knowledge about C++ and a little bit about Objective-C So please tell me how to write and compile in Objective-C++ code 1) Writing Code 2) Compiling with minGW or Clang(Commands)(Tell me for MingW, if its possible) 3) Which .extension i should write to save Objective-C++ 4)...

> I have a complete knowledge about C++
lol
> wxWidgets is using all old things like unicode
lolwot
13:43
@R.MartinhoFernandes Link
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A: QT vs wxwidget vs MFC

TheCoderIf you are an MFC user, learning Qt is waste, so go for wxWidgets. Otherwise, continue. wxWidgets is using all old things like unicode and ansii like stuff. It does not show modern stuff of C++ at all. Rare books are available on it. And if they are available then they are the very old version. ...

found it
sanks :)
OMG that guy is an idiot
@R.MartinhoFernandes that's what they all say
Not really
but the guy who edited the post last isn’t much better
13:45
@KonradRudolph What?
@KonradRudolph that's what they all are. actually i have had some limited success lately by treating people as children by default. much better then devolving into "are you dumb?" questions, i just assume that at the outset, and four or five people have just proved me wrong and it worked very well
@KonradRudolph that's the robot on my screen
I just make that thing readable.
@Cheersandhth.-Alf progress!
cpx
cpx
Thanks H2CO3(Carbonic Acid) — TheCoder 1 min ago
13:47
@sehe I was referring to the now-deleted answer
People aren't dumb. They don't always have the right interests. For the observer this amounts to: they don't always share the interests
@KonradRudolph phew. reprieve :)
s/always/often/ in that previous message at will
@KonradRudolph Oh gawd, code for emphasis shows up all the time in the suggested edits.
Often with an edit message like "edited for readability".
markdown is hard. these guys have mastered PHP!
@R.MartinhoFernandes I always reject them
13:48
And look! That guy that did the edit has ~600 rep, which means.... yeah, suggested edit was approved.
@R.MartinhoFernandes Perhaps he edited it while he had 2200 rep? I can see how his rep would suffer a steep descend
@sehe You mean 2000?
Selbstverstaendlich
Anyway, the edit was yesterday.
Your hypothesis is highly unlikely.
There is an OpenType feature called "scientific inferiors".
@R.MartinhoFernandes So he basically just reposted the same answer?
13:59
Hmm. Unicode has codepoints assigned to small caps versions of most of the latin alphabet except for Q and X...
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Xeo
wtf "small caps"?

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