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5:02 PM
is Generic iterator class for arrays of type T template or vector?
 
What?
 
WTF?
Array iterators are pointers in my dictionary.
I feel the need to write an iOS app.
 
Poor soul.
 
in PHP xD
 
user457812
Iterators are pointers? Huh?
 
5:08 PM
Pointers can be iterators.
int my_code_sucks[42];
auto it = &my_code_sucks[0]; // iterator
 
user406009
More like:
 
std::begin(my_code_sucks) is better.
 
user406009
auto it = std::begin(my_code_sucks);
 
user406009
Beaten by a couple of seconds.
 
One question who is c++ professionals here(to be professional you need 10000 hours of practice)
 
5:10 PM
There are also non-member functions in C++. If you want some form of scoping for their names, C++ also has a feature for that. It's called "namespaces". — R. Martinho Fernandes 1 min ago
Too much snark?
 
> to be professional you need 10000 hours of practice
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes You asking me?
 
@JohanDela That’s like, 400 days of continuous practice.
You’re crazy.
 
@daknøk I have that.
 
Also, one could write in C++ for 10000 hours and still be a complete noob.
 
5:12 PM
To be a professional it must be your profession.
 
hi
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Robots don’t need to rest.
:P
 
no it is true. that is why you need 10 years +- experiences
 
i wanted to ask an off-topic question
 
user406009
This whole channel is off-topic.
 
5:13 PM
@JohanDela If I write C++ for a living, I’m a professional C++ programmer, no matter how horrible I am at C++. Even if it’s the first day I work with C++.
 
user406009
Welcome to the lounge.
 
does any one have experience in selling desktop software
 
if you practice you will get better with 10 000 hours you will be awesome :)
 
@techno yes.
 
ie:shareware
 
user406009
5:14 PM
Practice does not make perfect. Perfect practice makes perfect.
 
@EthanSteinberg except in C++.
 
just wanted to know about the times when you began
 
C++ code can’t be perfect.
 
You learn out of mistakes.
 
@daknøk Sure it can. int main() { }
 
5:16 PM
@techno I never sold desktop software, but if I would, I’d just write it and put in on the Mac App Store. Good GUI and usability is important, so it gets five stars and instant money.
 
When you launched your product,in the first Month how many sales you got
 
> I never sold desktop software.
 
ok
does any one have some experience
 
Yes.
 
?
 
5:17 PM
Someone has some experience.
 
user406009
@techno You should probably try one of the stack exchange sites. Technical questions like that tend not to get good answers here.
 
Yeah, Safari, your suggestions are great.
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Not what I wanted, at all.
 
@daknøk I suspect it was.
 
@daknøk My Safari doesn't give me that suggestion.. Hmm I wonder why?
 
@DeadMG I wanted to visit Facebook but I made a typo, hitting E instead of F.
 
5:22 PM
Besides, you only get that blue background if it's a site you've already entered, so don't blame Safari for you being nasty!
 
:P
Browsers should hide porn from suggestions and history.
 
In private browsing is made for that!
 
I wish my lawn was emo, so it would cut itself.
May 28 at 1:20, by Radek 'daknok' Slupik
I need emo souls; I'm hungry.
lol
 
But safari has a nasty In private browsing
 
oh god, I can't focus on one project. everyday I write something for few minutes and then I realize that it sucks and I start to do something else. what to do? :(
 
5:26 PM
@Michal Find a job.
 
I'm still studying
 
Stop studying and find a job. :P
 
@Michal It may mean, that you are being unrealistic.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes: U there?
 
@Michal Contribute to open-source projects.
 
5:28 PM
@daknøk That's the best
 
Well, I am quite in the mood to do that.
Time to find an open-source project.
 
@DeadMG You haven't woof'ed for me today. I'm a bit disappointed
 
find something for me too :)
 
lots to think about
@Michal Celebrate.
 
@DeadMG Are you in a bad mood?
 
@ManofOneWay Been thinking about my future, so yep.
 
Inheriting boost::optional<T> and assigning it later after construction. It seems like a naughty thing to do.
 
hmm... I didn't knew Linux was on Github
 
It was put on GitHub when kernel.org got hacked, IIRC.
 
@DeadMG Come on, your like 20 years young. Don't think too much. You will do just fine
 
5:32 PM
@Nawaz What's up?
 
you're saying "don't think" to the programmer? :P
 
94.9% C, 2.6% Objective C. What a shame, no C++
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes: Just wanted to know if we can host jekyll-site on windows in a local domain, so that it can be seen only from that domain...
 
@DeadMG My advice to you is to start drinking heavily (or at least watch Animal House).
 
5:34 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes: Just wanted to know if we can host jekyll-site on windows in a local domain, so that it can be seen only from that domain...
 
@JerryCoffin haha
 
@Nawaz Hm, dunno. That sounds like an issue of server or firewall configuration.
 
@daknøk OMG
 
ØMQ
 
@DeadMG Think about other stuff.
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Q: How do you say <$> and <*> in english

AdamHow do you say and <*> in english. I understand that < $ > is just fmap, so is it called that? How would you read out loud these snippets? ghci> (:) < $ > Just 3 <*> Just [4] ghci> Just (+3) <*> Just 9

hehe
 
user406009
5:36 PM
@Michal Read that starcraft link in the sidebar. It made me much more confident about my projects.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes: Ohh. Actually jekyll --server is fine for experimenting, but we wouldn't call hosted site.
 
It generates static pages (under the folder _site IIRC), so you can serve it from any old HTTP server.
 
Yeah, but everytime I add a post, I've to regenerate it which I don't want. I want it to be automatically generated just like github.
 
@DeadMG I'm talking to a guy at Oracle now. Which university are you at?
 
Bjarne bashes C, Linus bashes C++, duh
 
5:39 PM
GitHub uses a git hook to regenerate it any time you push.
 
@ManofOneWay Was, and Loughborough.
 
@DeadMG You were doing a bachelor?
 
masters (heh)
can you imagine me doing a Masters?
 
Yeah, you suck too much for that.
 
shush you
I rock too hard for that
 
5:41 PM
@DeadMG Don't settle for masters. Doctor Puppy FTW.
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@JerryCoffin I did actually want to do a Doctorate.
 
@DeadMG I'm telling him you have completed 2,5 years, and that you are aiming for a masters, but that you are currently tired of studying
@DeadMG That's about right, right?
 
sick of it
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes: I see.. I've to look into that.
 
5:45 PM
@DeadMG He wants your email
 
wolfeinstein@gmail.com
 
@DeadMG I can imagine it. :P
 
Brace for SPAM!
 
@DeadMG So, he asked me to send an email to you, and cc him. So that you get introduced to each other. But in order to do so, it would be best if I know your real name, at least your forename. If you don't want to tell me here, then email me your name. It looks better in the mail if I at least seem to know you.
 
5:51 PM
give me your email then and I'll mail it to you
 
yep
 
Awesome ^
 
QUICK REMOVE YOUR EMAIL OR EVIL WILL LEAK INTO IT
 
5:53 PM
Spam is good.
Keeps the spam filters busy.
 
brief sec
 
If you have spam in inbox, you're terrible at training your filters.
 
@JohannesSchaub-litb the "correctors" are on their way
 
Hell, GMail doesn't even need training any more.
 
My email address is publicly available and I never got any spam on this one.
 
5:55 PM
gmail is pretty good with spam fltering
use mailinator for temp email
 
Email sucks.
 
Gmail, is so good at filtering: my important mails end up in spam
 
Unreliable piece of shit.
 
gm
 
5:57 PM
GayMale
 
LesbianMail
 
WhyMail? (ymail!)
 
I actually never check my spam folder
 
Google Apache Wave
 
5:58 PM
I never check my email unless I know I received an email. If people email me without notifying me, it’s not my problem.
 
The best strategy is many email addresses
I have like 10 or so
 
The best strategy is no email addresses.
 
@TonyTheLion That must be hard to manage
 
@daknøk weird
 
"daknok@gmail.com"@gmail.com <— valid, but will pass like no single validator.
 
5:59 PM
@Blank not at all. Some I check rarely, all the others I use only 1 program to check
 
hey guys
that ugly lump domagoj let his domain expire
 
oh
fool
 
I keep only 1 primary email, and ensure that inbox (& spam) has no unread messages
 
also means can't email the ugly lump
@Blank I have 1,600 unread emails.
 
what a douche
 
6:01 PM
@DeadMG Mark them as read, if u never gonna read it, then from now on, either mark as read, or read it
 
I need bacon.
 
@DeadMG Got the email. Should we talk on mumble?
 
@daknøk I have bacon :)
 
@TonyTheLion Give me your address and phone number and I’ll fix that for you.
 
@daknøk (NOP)[www.reddit.com/r/nope]
 
6:06 PM
:P
 
OKTHXBYE
 
@TonyTheLion do you like programming?
 
@DeadMG lolwut.
 
FAIL
wut?
@daknøk yes I do
 
@CatPlusPlus It needs a bit every month or so.
 
6:09 PM
Works for me.
 
@TonyTheLion your URL skills fail.
 
@daknøk They can e-mail you to notify you, right?
 
does it need the protocol too?
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes they can call me or tell me or chat to me.
 
@daknøk Erm, what? That passes /.*@.*\..*/ just fine.
 
6:10 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes fails foo@localhost.
.+@.+ ftw
 
@daknøk That's not valid in the sense of valid that matters for most validators (i.e. that you can send mail to it).
 
Best validation, though, is just sending a confirmation email.
If users can’t enter their email address correctly, it’s their problem.
 
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Q: Recursive left-recursion in hand-written recursive ascent parser

DeadMGI've been writing some recursive ascent parsers, and one of the things I've been struggling with is left recursion. It seems obvious to me that right recursion can be expressed recursively, like addExpr : primaryExpr '+' addExpr | primaryExpr; by something along the lines of parseAdd...

oh puppy
 
what?
 
lol
nofink
don't matter
 
6:16 PM
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Q: Any feedback on my C++ demo videos?

Bo QianI am creating a series of video sessions to demonstrate medium-to-advanced C++ programming techniques that I've learned over the years. Lot's of the ideas came from the book "Effective C++". It's a work in progress. My goal is to make it a comprehensive collection of advanced C++ programming vide...

@DeadMG Man, .
 
Chat doesn’t have an API, does it?
 
don't think so
 
@daknøk why not
 
Dev A: Hey your fix doesn't fix anything!
Dev B: Did you pull my fix?
Dev A: No.
 
6:18 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes lol
@R.MartinhoFernandes What?
 
@DeadMG Tag questions with too. I'm always fixing that, but it annoys me that I have to do it on a question of yours :(
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes I tagged it c++11 only?
 
huh, so I di
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hey guys, do you think I could raise money to develop something like Wide on Kickstarter?
 
6:42 PM
Unlikely, but you can try.
 
huh
I bet with Tony that it would take like five seconds for members to descend upon the Lounge and discuss the general viability of funding programming projects on Kickstarter
 
@CatPlusPlus We're mumbling
 
you made me look bad
 
@DeadMG At least from what I've seen, to actually get paid money just to develop a language, you need to start out at least borderline famous (e.g., Rob Pike/Ken Thomson on Go, James Gosling on Java).
Most languages (e.g., C, C++) that get any funding do it more or less by accident, as a side-project growing out of doing something mostly unrelated, for which existing tools weren't particularly well suited.
@DeadMG Only in the hopes that it would devolve into discussion of porn.
 
@JerryCoffin Does sound like a Tony thing to do.
 
6:49 PM
@JerryCoffin could evolve it as such :P
it's quite easy, everything eventually evolves into porn
 
Tony's Law: As the length of a debate increases, the probability of porn being mentioned tends towards 1, usually because Tony mentions it.
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Documentation y u different order of arguments as the documented code.
 
I've made a branch by doing

git branch discussion8Sep
git checkout discussion8Sep
I wrote some stuffs then. did git commit. and git push. but nothing apearing in bitbucket repo
 
Dear lord 40-minute phone call. My ear is falling off.
 
Use your other ear.
 
6:53 PM
I'm right-eared.
 
@NeelBasu git checkout master && git merge discussion8Sep && git push -u origin master
 
Don't merge if you don't want to merge.
 
Do merge if you do want to merge.
 
You just have to push discussion8Sep.
 
No I want to keep two different branch
I'll develop seperately
git push discussion8Sep
fails
 
6:55 PM
Then git push -u origin discussion8Sep or whatever you use for your remote name. I usually use origin.
 
First argument to push is remote.
 
trying git push -u origin discussion8Sep
 
$ git push <remote name> <branch name>
Also see git-push(1).
Of course, you must have a remote set up.
 
Thanks
That worked
 
Okay.
 
6:59 PM
@DeadMG I wouldn't back that.
 
course not, I'd expect you to lend a hand :P
 
WTF is the ADwin configuration protocol?
Somehow my network packets look like those to Wireshark.
 
@DeadMG [sorry, baby duties] I don't think it's so much anything he does, as simply who he is. It's like Jessica Alba being hot. Even if she didn't want to be, she shouldn't help it.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Cue lawsuit.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Why aren't you on mumble?
 
7:09 PM
@CatPlusPlus It's freaking annoying because it messes up the colouring.
@ManofOneWay I'm busy right now.
And not alone.
 
As for Kickstarter programming projects, it's mostly because the nature of the project. Target is incompatible with general Kickstarter audience, and there's really nothing tangible about a language. Plus, people love tiered rewards.
If it was an IDE or something, it might stand a better chance.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Oh, is it a date?
 
Yes, obviously, seeing as he's on chat.
 
Loooove.
 
7:14 PM
0 questions tagged
 
@lezebulon That's a problem.
 
No shit.
 
My chatserver already sucks.
 
@ManofOneWay Wut.
I don't want to pollute the shared sound space with me talking to no one that is in the room.
What kind of terrible date would it be if I was chatting with animals on the Internet and looking at wireshark captures?
 
A date with your computer.
 
7:20 PM
You're a robot you can date your computer
:)
just plug in the USB
 
And then you date your computer, and your computer gets angry and shouts: “you were just using me! :(”
 
USB and ABUSBE !
 
@daknøk Are you speaking from experience?
 
Nice comeback
 
Macs are like sluts; more usable.
 
7:27 PM
So you just plug yourself to a firewire port ?
 
He sets the iPhone to vibrate.
 
I have no iPhone.
Nokia ftw.
Best phone ever.
 
I used to love nokia phones for the snake game
 
I still love them for being indestructible.
 
Only Phone with Flashlight
 
7:35 PM
fleshlight* FTFY
 
woohoo
technically, I had a lecture on source control once, so I can claim that I studied it at university (technically true)
 
wait, you studied at university?
 
well
I did pass my first two years
(although I did have to resit both times)
 
@DeadMG enough
 
@daknøk yep
 
7:40 PM
o hai
 
someone should create a wikipedia page on Tonys law
LOL
 
@DeadMG Erm.
 
@TonyTheLion I thought wikipedia pages were following the Rule 34 pattern. Also that is a good way to crowdsource it.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Well, it's not like I haven't learned a bit more since then.
also I didn't attend that lecture and didn't even know it existed until I found it just now
 
7:59 PM
Best phone ever.
 
Are there a few(less than 10) sentences that will make me switch from svn to git in a few(about 10) user environment?
 
@DeadMG lol. Well, at least you won't be lying about the knowledge part.
@CaptainGiraffe "Switch or I'll shoot you!"?
 
well, I never claimed I knew it
only that I studied it
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Um, this RFC is not implemented on my system yet.
 
@CaptainGiraffe lol
 
8:04 PM
@LuchianGrigore Hi Luchian. Having trouble sleeping tonight? It's what, midnight or 0100 for you isn't it?
 
It's 11
 
oh 2 hours ahead of me
 
@JerryCoffin Is Luchian living in the middle of the Atlantic?
 
@LuchianGrigore Oh, I guess that's not quite as bad as I thought.
 
Sure, ask him, he knows....
@JerryCoffin it was a typo, ok? :))
I know it's scope :P
 
8:06 PM
lol
 
You say lol a lot...
 
@LuchianGrigore You have a scope too! Is it a submarine? I want it to be a submarine
 
@LuchianGrigore Oh, quite okay. I was just a little surprised to still see you up. And yes, given your record I don't have the slightest doubt you knew the right word.
 
lol
damn
*lol*
ah
that worked
 
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Brilliant Ad ^
 
8:09 PM
It you look closely, there's a guy holding a camera....
 
@CaptainGiraffe No, it'd only be early afternoon in the middle of the atlantic. He's way east in Europe though (Romania, if memory serves).
 
@JerryCoffin I stand corrected. Thanks for ruining my submarine dream Sir.
 
@CaptainGiraffe Anytime, I assure you. Destroying dreams is just one of our free services.
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heheh
best line today :)
 
8:12 PM
@JerryCoffin As a Uni lecturer from a school that is free, I can relate.
 
@TonyTheLion Wider than 180º?
 
@CaptainGiraffe I should move to somewhere that schools are free. Then maybe I wouldn't be such an Igerent Merikan.
@daknøk Nikon did have a 6mm lens that covered 220 degrees on the diagonal. Wasn't exactly inconspicuous though:
 
ಠ_ಠ
 
@daknøk I'm seeing 4*PI there
 
8:20 PM
@daknøk You have some splaining to do there dak
 
Screw π and radians and all that shit.
Fuck geometry.
I only like algebra and set theory.
 
@daknøk Its not geometry, It is about integrating curvature.
 
Whatever. :P
 
8:34 PM
they should create std::clamp
 
oh god, an old school friend of mine has gone into politics
 
damn, there's like, only 12 hours or so until my father comes to collect me
 
Is he a good programmer?
 
no
 
8:43 PM
my observations exactly
I guess.
lol
I'm obviously bored and browsing memes
 
lol
 
damn, I'm finding it difficult to write this email
like those covering letters :(
 
@DeadMG What for?
 
man of one way put me in contact with an Oracle recruiter
 
Ah cool.
 
8:53 PM
just write what you think and be honest
 
Or well, cool; Oracle…
 
lol
it'll be a tad less "Oracle..." if I work there
 
You work there one day and they go bankrupt.
 
lol
 
The less Oracle the better, I’d say. xD
I dislike Oracle more than Microsoft.
 
8:56 PM
Oracle database are pretty hideous, from experience
 
Metal Gear Solid is not Hideous at all.
@TonyTheLion Just like Java.
 
@TonyTheLion agreed they aren't focusing on their database side as they use too,
 

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