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5:00 AM
also I stretched my leg a little too far when I woke up this morning
can hardly walk on it
 
you'll have to amputate
followed by an encephalectomy. it's the only way
 
that sounds painful
 
oh, most people wake up in their beds without any memories of the event, and in the end they are in tact. once in a while someone remembers, but it's ok because nobody will believe them
 
All medicine is painful because their idea of fixing malfunctioning components is removing them.
A result of hundreds of years of teaching that biophysics and actual science is not important for a doctor.
 
@DomagojPandža Nah. Haven't you heard about the new cancer cure?
 
5:08 AM
There's a new cancer?
 
Those are scientists. I'm talking about doctors.
 
@RMartinhoFernandes The cure is new.
 
New cancer sounds better.
The old one has been getting too much grief.
 
well, technically, it's not a Cure™ yet, since there's still many trials yet to go
but it was awesome to read about
 
I read about a potential universal virus killer some months ago.
 
5:10 AM
that was also highly interesting
 
All viruses must share a common interface. We must be able to invoke its destructor.
 
we already have chemicals that can do that, but they tend to kill pretty much anything else, including us
@DomagojPandža Which is exactly the principle behind the potential new drug.
 
"case study report: test group A which did not receive Cure™ all died. test group B given Cure™ all survived. Our condolences to test group A. They drew the short straw, for science."
 
Morning
@DeadMG Good luck on the exam today
 
@endoalir Nah, they give test group A existing conventional treatments, and test group B Cure™
 
5:11 AM
@endoalir "This first test involves something the lab-boys call repulsion gel. You're not part of the control group by the way - you get the gel. Last poor son of a gun got blue paint, ha ha ha! All joking aside, that did happen. Broke every bone in his legs - tragic. But informative! Or so I'm told."
 
bahahaha I love that game
 
@ManofOneWay Thanks, but I think I failed it a long time ago.
 
Beat me :(
 
@DomagojPandža Beating humans is my job.
That came out wrong.
 
I also saw a new radiotherapy technique that can deliver like, 100x the radiation of the previous technique (whilst still being safe for the surrounding tissue).
and a new surgical technique for super-precise operations
 
5:13 AM
Science isn't about why, it's about why not. You ask: why is so much of our science dangerous? I say: why not marry safe science if you love it so much. In fact, why not invent a special safety door that won't hit you in the butt on the way out, because you are fired.
I love Cave Johnson :Đ
For this next test we put nanoparticles in the gel. In layman's terms, that's a billion little gizmos that are gonna travel into your bloodstream and pump experimental genes and RNA molecules and so forth into your tumours. Now maybe you don't have any tumours. Well don't worry, if you sat on a folding chair in the lobby and weren't wearing lead underpants we took care of that too.
AHAHAHAHAHAHAH
Oh, dear lord, I hope nobody like this exists on this planet. :D
 
> Alright this next test may involve trace amounts of time travel.
My favourite ^
 
OK guys, we've all played the game.
 
I time travel every day. Why, I've traveled nearly 12 hours since this afternoon
 
man
I want to resume specifying Wide, but I don't want to get into a groove because I'll miss my exam
 
Play some random game.
 
5:22 AM
Go take care of the exam and return back to it. Although, from past experience, after exams I had a tendency to just go to sleep.
 
@DomagojPandža It doesn't start for another two and a half hours
I could go to the shop and pre-purchase some consolation cookies/chocolate/etc
 
@DomagojPandža What a coincidence. I had a tendency to go to sleep before the exams!
 
I am pleased to say that my shallow-bounce radiance transfer math checks out. I'm mentally agitated to report that the method involves potential collecting of light interaction off culled surfaces because of the way occlusion culling was calculated up to this point. Conclusion: Lots of painful work ahead.
 
@RMartinhoFernandes what?
 
5:24 AM
"consolation cookies"
 
University Gift Shop: Cookies for the tormented souls
 
yeah, it's an attachment to the torture factory
 
Yo, dawg! We heard you like C++11, so we decided to cripple VS2012's support for it because we hate you.
 
user457812
They care so much. Sooooo much.
 
I am grasping at straws here, but what is the chance that Microsoft didn't have time to conform to the newly standardized C++11 specification? And the chance of us getting it in a future service pack?
@DeadMG Just remembered, I finished Max Payne 3 yesterday. Great game. :D
 
5:31 AM
@DomagojPandža lol
how did you kill the guys with the steel foundries on their heads and miniguns?
 
The one at Rodrigo's office, in the lobby? After the car manages to smash through the enterance?
 
yeah
and the other one after you blow up the hotel
no idea how I killed the one at Rodrigo's office
but the hotel one is irritating because the checkpoint is before a large fight and then him
 
Actually, I think I exploited a game mechanic, the last stand thingy. I had a painkiller on me, when he started to dispense bullets at me and depleted my health, it is easier to kill him as you fall (just one on target, I think).
 
that's what I remember happening
but it didn't work for me on the second one
 
In some cases, characters crucial to the story might be immune to it, like the 55th UFE Lt. cop.
He'll just drop you if you try to exploit it.
But, in the hotel scene, aren't they blue UFE cops with glass masks?
I remember shooting them in the head.
 
5:37 AM
all except this guy
there's the cutscene where you set off the explosives, then you fight your way up on to the balcony
first tried to escape in the helicopter but game said no
run through towards the door, some enemies spawn on top of you, then minigun guy behind you
 
@DomagojPandža Herb mentioned they plan to ship updates to the compiler out-of-band.
 
I think they have this arcade-game boss fight health, as opposed to the rest. You have to survive long enough and dispense as much bullets as you can into his least shielded extremities. I think he kneeled a couple of times before he died.
One of the things that irritated me is that upon releasing control back to the player (from the cutscenes) they equip you with a gun which might not have any bullets left.
And then you dodge and painfully realise you no longer have your weapon equipped.
 
cutscene Max is a moron
he has no concept of what cover is good and what cover is technically going to stop the bullets but you could never hope to poke out without getting shredded
 
And on top of that, he kills 5 million people and decides he has no chance against 5 of them holding Fabiana hostage.
And runs inside acting like a moron, not even shooting.
 
and he bitches endlessly about what a failure he is
and I'm like, "Dude, your boss's part got crashed by like, 100 guys, and you're complaining you couldn't stop them all single-handedly?"
Rodrigo really needed to hire more than just one bodyguard
 
5:46 AM
Precisely, but it's the damn writers who wanted to portray him as an unlucky character. They've gone too far with that train of thought, to absurdity.
In the last part on the airport, they actually recognize the absurdity by making Max say:
"It was brilliant to go head first through the airport filled with enemy goons instead of going with Da Silva directly to the hangars."
 
haven't played that part yet
 
I'll shut up then for the airport. :D
 
oh, I don't care
didn't play MP3 for the sexy plot
and I read the summary on Wikipedia before paying
 
By the way, the hotel part, when you ran into the cutscene with Serrano and the rest of the homeless people, what was the first thing that crossed your mind?
 
that it would be full of mooks and I would have to kill like, 20 of them from a completely uncovered standing start
 
5:50 AM
I hadn't read the summary and the damn post processing psychedelic crap actually tricked me for a second into thinking they're some sort of zombies.
 
or it would be Giovanni giving Passos a blowjob or something like that
 
I wanted to shot Passos, too bad it wasn't a choice.
 
lol
 
Nice of him to leave me hanging.
 
agreed, I'd have been happy to insert bullet into his head
 
5:52 AM
And cutscene Max is the biggest moron there is, considering the Panama scene when goons take over the ship, kill the crew and Passos manages to load crap onto a truck without anyone trying to stop him.
 
never did understand how Passos and whatsisface got away
 
Probably on Victor's payroll, as Da Silva mentioned. Stupid Max probably let him go because of old sentimentality for his dead wife and baby.
Giovanna and the unborn baby and shit.
 
shoot them both
Giovanna was a whiny bitch
 
I wanted to make Fabiana my bitch. :(
 
"Help me, Max, help me! By the way I'm going to run out in the middle of a gunfight and then expect you to come find me."
 
5:56 AM
Yeah, I wanted to shoot her myself on that part.
The gunplay was exhilarating, if only there had been some consequential storytelling... The ability to actually save Fabiana, kill Passos, take the doctor's money and then kill him or let Serrano have his way with him. Would've added a bit more immersion.
 
exam soon
 
Ready?
 
lost my axe with which to murder the lecturer
 
Press shift for bullet time.
Or space if you're on higher ground for extra style.
 
lol
 
6:01 AM
hello
 
does anyone know how to search though a list of words and find the most common symbols and their location in the word?
 
do you know how to read?
this is the "chat"
not the "I can't find the "Ask Question" button" place
 
@DeadMG OK
 
DeadMG prepping for the exam.
 
6:11 AM
 
6:22 AM
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Q: C/c++/c# code to check the connection status of the iphone

kingC/c++/c# code to check the connection status of the iphone, and some related information, and under a PC copy the file to the iphone

Extreme prejudice, please.
 
hmmm
2 votes to delete already? downvote, then delete.
 
6:38 AM
Aww it's already gone. anyway I know the answer. Smash the iPhone with a hammer a few times. after that, you can know what the connection status is
 
Zzzzz... ing !?
Good morning ape
 
morning sehe
 
:)
 
'morning
 
well
at least my leg is feeling better, so I might not break it on my way to my soul-crushing fomulae memorization test
 
6:50 AM
the crooked axe murderer
 
7:09 AM
well, it's time for me to go
 
@EtiennedeMartel relevant: Windows is completely missing the TextMode boat... - posted in 2004
@DeadMG Morituri te salutant
 
don't know what that means
 
Intense.
JavaScript is so ugly. :(
 
Just use the "good parts" (hah)
 
It is so ugly, I'm actually thinking about writing an interpreter based on the specification.
Who designs these things and says they're okay?
 
7:18 AM
> I dabble in Ruby and other languages on the side so don't get my grudging respect for Visual Basic 6's special brand of cheesy pragmatism twisted. -- © 2012 Scott Hanselman
 
Object property names can be strings. A brilliant idea.
 
@DomagojPandža I don't think it is essentially that. It's more the case of: "objects are dictionaries"
(And dictionary keys can be strings)
 
Oh, that in particular. I am just contemplating the 1.6 million ways to combine things that do the very same thing for extra ugly.
Because consistency sucks balls.
 
I'm sad to say but I think that whole 'open typing' idea might come from Perl. Am I wrong?
@ScottW are you an alien?
 
Could be, uncertain though.
 
7:21 AM
@ScottW Evading the question
@DomagojPandža In perl, a hash is 'blessed' into an object of certain type, IIRC
@ScottW it sounds like bandwidth deprivation. I sound the same when on very poor 3G
@ScottW Aha, did you hear me properly? 'Cause, then I could try and load up bastion real quick to see whether it matters
 
One of the things that really makes me shoot lasers around is the fact it treats functions as objects. I mean, allowing them to be shuffled around as semi-objects is great, but to actually construct dictionary-like objects/functions really irritates me.
Prototype-based stuff should be shot on sight.
 
Yeah somehow it worked second time. Might have been the upgrade to latest post-release nvidia drivers, but it might actually have been a fluke, because I've seen problems just launching the game twice since. A restart 'fixed' things, so apparently there's something a bit racy in the initialization sequence
@DomagojPandža Everything has it's purpose.
 
True, everything can be applied. But don't forget that shit can also be used to clog small hull breaches on spacecrafts.
 
Only bastion steals focus
 
The elegance of a more decent solution is more desirable, nonetheless. :Đ
 
7:27 AM
@ScottW So, it shouldn't have to be a problem. I'm using pulse-audio with intel onboard HDA sound
@DomagojPandža The logic.... it's terrifocalizintillating!
@ScottW OK, sir!
 
"Let's make a shit JavaScript interpreter!"
There is a non-shit interpreter?
 
@DomagojPandža Several exist, IIRC
 
"Tokeniser"
Because lexical analysis is too mainstream.
 
11 hours ago, by StackedCrooked
My theory is that good C++ programming is founded on thinking in terms of ownership and object lifetime.
@StackedCrooked Yeah. Basically: C++ Own You.
@DomagojPandža Hey, Commodore BASIC and BASICA were tokenizing, in fact the source representation used token ids to conserve memory. (This also meant that whitespace would be lost)
 
Anybody awake?
From the contents of dumpbin /all
204F2 _imp?FLAGS_gtest_catch_exceptions@testing@@3_NA
What does imp_ mean?
 
7:35 AM
No. We are all bots, representing our bosses
@Nils Probably that it's a dllimport? Is it windows?
 
humm the chat does't seem to display all the underlines
yes winodws
dllimport?
I get lnk2001 ""bool testing::FLAGS_gtest_catch_exceptions" (?FLAGS_gtest_catch_exceptions@testing@@3_NA)".
 
sounds like a personal problem
 
Glancing at it I'd say it simply can't find the simble. are you linking to the import library for this dll ?
 
but found exactly the same signature in the contents of the lib file, I just have no idea what imp_ means
yes
 
I suppose for the sake of knowing what people are talking about today, I guess I should find out the Euro thingy results
 
7:39 AM
I'd rather watch a cat sleep than Euro.
 
It's just googles test framework that I'm trying to link against.
haha Euros :P
 
At least you can traumatize the cat. You can just observe people running around in adShirts at Euro matches.
 
@endoalir Troll Harder :)
 
Harder, better, faster, stronger
or something like that
 
why can't I take the shiney gold from here and put it in my real profile :(
 
7:41 AM
Just bought gw2. Announcing super-productive holidays ahead.
 
Guild Wars 2?
 
@Nils You might have to use some define in order to make the header file use declspec(dllimport) instead of declspec(dllexport) - also, you might need to specific flags (enable exceptions/rtti (-EHz and stuff?)) to be compatible with boost test for cross-dll execeptions
@Cicada Good morning
 
Hello also!
 
Think I am going to be posting this a good bit :P
yeah, links work better when linked to something
 
Yes, it's harsh, but that's the truth. We're in chat to, well, chat. To unwind, act silly and make fun of various things.
Now — that does not mean we won't help you. For the most part, we like helping people. But if we detect any hint
of entitlement, we will tell you to fuck off and go away. And if you persist, we will troll you to tears and whiny meta posts.
Cat++ wins 1000 internets.
 
7:43 AM
@DomagojPandža sh, don't tell him
 
@sehe uhh I'm using googletest, bot boost test.
 
@Nils Oh well, sorry s/boost/googletest/, same difference. I though googletest was header-only. Apparently misremembered
 
no it's not
 
apparently :) also, that was a sidenote only. I just typed boost accidentally. Same difference
 
so the imp is related to declspec?
 
7:50 AM
Looking at the list of the chat rooms: lots of mobile developers, lots of Indians. Not a lot else.
 
@KonradRudolph there's something like 5 Android rooms because they can't get along with them selves
 
I was just thinking about a computer-aided sniper rifle. Given orientation sensoring and spatial awareness, ballistic analysis of the round type, local air density and other physical properties of the inhabiting environment, one could pinpoint the path of the round for a finite distance with sufficient precision - and feed that data into an eye piece which could visualize the trajectory.
Instant dead (bad) guys.
 
@thecoshman True story? But yes, a multitude of Android rooms, and at least two iPhone rooms and then some general mobile dev rooms
 
@thecoshman One per caste, actually
 
It's basically a bunch of "newly found know-it-all developers" who are aiming to make a profit on success stories several years old.
 
7:53 AM
@KonradRudolph yeah, I want harassing them once about it, didn't get very far. On a 'completely' unrelated note, looking after children must be hard work
 
@Cicada Android devs have castes as well?
 
And in such communities, everyone is out to get you. Because you want to steal their ideas.
 
@KonradRudolph That wouldn't surprise me
 
Wait, let me get this straight... Samsung supplies touchscreen displays for Apple iProducts, Apple sues Samsung in order to force their phones off the market?
 
7:57 AM
Samsung supplies pretty much everything for iStuff
 
They do?
 
And yeah, partners yet rivals, it's quite common actually
 
Yeah, most of it.
 
surprising. Wasn’t that Foxconn?
anyway, the touch display technology belongs to Apple, not Samsung
 
I've been trying to wrap my head around that for quite some time. Samsung is Apple's bitch. They don't like each other, but Samsung can't turn down formidable profit.
Yes, the retina technology and the way touch sensing is engineered, all Apple.
But still, it's a funny predicament.
 
7:59 AM
You know that it's very likely that Apple won't renew their contract with Samsung
 
@Cicada I learned about that when I worked at Philips.
 
And Apple is Samsung's main client
 
@StackedCrooked boo, hiss
 
Yeah, it's getting weird between them. It's like a bully who picks on you, but every once in a while he throws you a bone and acts nice.
 

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