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12:00 AM
Am I surrounded by Dutch people?
 
> Stek is een onafhankelijk Nederlands advocatenkantoor
niet website
@EtiennedeMartel There is no spoon.
 
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And I got a question for you guys: how the fuck do you manage to understand each other? Dutch has to be the most fucked up language around.
 
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I WANT IKEA FOOD
 
@EtiennedeMartel hahaha. We could say the same thing about French, ya know.
 
12:01 AM
@TonyTheLion Good point.
 
@Zoidberg'-- You mean, flat, self-assembled and guaranteed for 5 years?
 
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@EtiennedeMartel Dutch is a beautiful and logical language.
 
@Zoidberg'-- I'll let that slide because you're still so young.
 
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@sehe whatever, it tastes marvelous.
 
@Zoidberg'-- Daknok is the only one who thinks so
 
12:02 AM
@EtiennedeMartel So how old are you?
I don't like Dutch or Flemish
 
user142019
These ketchup-flavoured crisps are marvelous.
 
I prefer English
 
@TonyTheLion 23.
 
@Zoidberg'-- Wait. You get those at IKEA?
@EtiennedeMartel Ooooold
 
12:02 AM
That daknok is young is a personnal running gag of mine.
 
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@sehe nein. I get those at the Albert Heijn and the Jumbo.
 
I mean, he's like what, 17?
 
heheh
 
@EtiennedeMartel 18, since about today, IIRC
 
@Zoidberg'-- Why the hell would you link your own tweets... That's like high-fiving yourself in public
 
12:03 AM
Really? It's his birthday?
 
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@sehe today plus twelve days.
 
Maybe end of the week?
 
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23 december 1994 was the day the earth was doomed.
 
Oh. Okay. Bad memory. Still, good enough for me
 
Must not forget Zoidbergs Bday on 23 December!
 
12:03 AM
@Zoidberg'-- Holy sweet tits on a komodo dragon.
 
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@EtiennedeMartel Huh?
 
@EtiennedeMartel You watch some really kinky porn...
 
@Zoidberg'-- That's also a crisps flavor
 
Zoidberg is the baby of this room then? :P
 
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No, that’s @Ell.
 
12:04 AM
@Borgleader Well, that wouldn't have the Zoid baffled
 
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He is 16, IIRC.
 
@Borgleader I didn't even see porn in there...
oh gawd, this room should be R rated
no under 18's :P
 
@TonyTheLion Dragon with tits?
 
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@TonyTheLion Radek rated?
 
@Borgleader Sweet
 
12:05 AM
@Borgleader I meant, porn wasn't my first thought when I read that
 
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Really, no porn under 18 is useless.
 
@Zoidberg'-- All porn under 18 is useful
 
user142019
Want porn? You watch porn. No need to be 18.
 
@TonyTheLion Good for you :)
I guess I'm just fucked up
 
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12:06 AM
I can’t imagine I’d have never watched any porn until the 23rd of this month.
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That would be funny.
 
23rd - ftfy
 
@Zoidberg'-- pr0n - ftfy
 
user1182183
what's a stackhash crash? ; o
 
user142019
“Okay, I’m 18. Now I can watch porn!”
 
12:07 AM
@GamErix It means they are gonna gag you and dump you in the woods
 
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@GamErix a crash caused by a stackhash, døh.
 
it means you borked it
 
Een Maartse Haas
 
I'm guessing buffer overflow somewhere
@sehe een aprilse gril
 
@Zoidberg'-- There's also that @GamEric dude. He's 18, but he sounds like 14.
3
 
user1182183
12:08 AM
didn't know a dll can permanently damage something, but I don't know what..
 
the stack or the heap in your running program
 
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@EtiennedeMartel he’s also Dutch!
 
@EtiennedeMartel so, curiousity, how old am I in your eyes?
 
@GamErix your brain, evidently
 
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@TonyTheLion I think around 22.
 
12:09 AM
oh pwnd
 
26
 
user1182183
@sehe well maybe because other games can run, so it's not my pc
 
user1182183
will reboot and see...
 
@sehe you're cheating...
 
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@sehe I think you are 34.
 
12:10 AM
@TonyTheLion I know you are older than me, but don't remember the exact age.
 
because he old you
 
@GamErix other games running, change the ownership of the PC?
 
I think the three oldest dudes around are @sbi, @sehe and @JerryCoffin.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes I'm 26.
 
user142019
Oh 36. Close enough.
 
12:10 AM
@EtiennedeMartel Alf.
 
@TonyTheLion I'm not. I'm just saying what I think I remember
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Right, forgot about him.
 
@sehe h sehe
 
I think Alf is the eldest.
 
Come to think of it, there's also @Chimera.
 
12:10 AM
@EtiennedeMartel I object. I may be 'older' but not that old
 
@sehe Ha.
 
user142019
And Cicada.
 
@TonyTheLion cough
 
He's not grumpy yet :P
 
@Zoidberg'-- She's younger than me.
 
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12:11 AM
I thought she once said she was 50.
 
Cicada's 21 IIRC.
 
@sehe :) :)
 
@Zoidberg'-- Riiiiiiight.
 
@Zoidberg'-- she's also a troll btw
 
@Zoidberg'-- You shouldn't always believe what the grownups say.
 
12:11 AM
fyi
pwned!
 
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lol
 
@TonyTheLion What! Who? Cicada? Nooooo way. You mean Glenn Fidich or what's-her-name-again
 
@Zoidberg'-- She also once said she was 7.
or maybe that was sbi
 
@sehe dat insect lol
 
@TonyTheLion 32
 
12:12 AM
42
 
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@sehe Glennfidich? Isn’t that a likeur?
 
@TonyTheLion You must be in a strange mood today.
 
Well damn @EtiennedeMartel is hogging the starboard...
 
@Zoidberg'-- I think it's whiskey
 
@Borgleader It's accidental.
 
12:13 AM
@sehe Definitely one of the oldies.
 
It's occidental
 
@sehe I've dealt with XML all frecking day, what kinda mood do you think I'm in?
 
And daknok has more stars than me.
 
@Borgleader 3/9 is hogging?
 
user1182183
ohohohoooo i'm high, ye aaah ooh soo high, reboot worked, lol. all I wanted to say.
 
12:13 AM
@R.MartinhoFernandes (I think he secretly likes me)
 
@DeadMG :)
 
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@TonyTheLion suicide
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes In < 20 min yes
 
@EtiennedeMartel Admit it, you think that of everyone.
 
@Zoidberg'-- kek
 
12:13 AM
@R.MartinhoFernandes Maybe.
 
You are wrong, though. I like you openly.
 
@GamErix Plonk. I'd re-reboot if I could :)
 
I see bromance
 
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@sehe how come you can't?
 
user1182183
Me too
 
12:14 AM
Foot in mouth
Makes it awkward to kick
 
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@sehe gl
 
@GamErix I unplonked you, now if you end up on my plonk list again, I won't unplonk you again.
 
What elevation is considered to be "high" here?
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes YAAAAAY
 
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@TonyTheLion what's a plonk list?
 
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12:15 AM
@IDWMaster 10 grams
 
42 meters, give or take
 
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@GamErix the list of all people you plonked, you fool.
 
@TonyTheLion Delicious.
 
user1182183
oh jees that sound, that weird cooler sound, the rotor takes the hairs off my legs and they get into the fan xD
 
user1182183
@Zoidberg'-- define "plonk" and "plonked"
 
user142019
12:16 AM
Weed smells like armpit sweat.
 
@Zoidberg'-- "all the people" - this is going to cause some confusion
 
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@GamErix ignore
 
@Zoidberg'-- oh gawd
 
user1182183
@Zoidberg'-- c++ has a ignor directive? ;o
 
user1182183
12:16 AM
igor.
 
@Zoidberg'-- ? That's not an elevation. Don't you mean 10,000 feet above sea level or something?
 
@GamErix There is a proposal for that
 
no, this room has ignore list
 
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@TonyTheLion what? it’s not my fault.
 
@TonyTheLion It hasn't
 
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12:16 AM
@IDWMaster no, I mean 10 grams of pot.
 
@Zoidberg'-- You never smelled weed, eh?
 
@sehe you know what I mean
 
@EtiennedeMartel He just stores it in an odd place
@TonyTheLion That's irrelevant
 
@sehe That's decidedly a weird place to store your bats.
 
user1182183
Plonk is een begrip uit de internetwereld en wordt gebruikt op internetforums en op usenet. Herkomst en betekenis Het is een onomatopee en is afgeleid van het geluid dat een voorwerp maakt wanneer het in de vuilnisbak wordt gegooid. In overdrachtelijke zin is het: het automatisch en ongezien filteren van alle berichten van een bepaalde afzender. Het begrip wordt in deze betekenis gebruikt op internetforums en discussiepagina's. De herkomst van het woord is mogelijk ook Engels, het zou dan een derivaat kunnen zijn van het slang-begrip plonker, dat een zich raar gedragend persoon beschrijft...
 
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12:17 AM
okok iknow it..
 
TIL Zoidberg stores weed under his armpits
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@EtiennedeMartel I had certain “friends” in high school and they used weed everywhere. I live in The Netherlands, remember?
 
user1182183
PLONK! YE
 
@GamErix google Kill-file
 
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Een killfile is een bestand waarin de gebruiker van een newsreader aan kan geven welke bijdragen op Usenet niet vertoond moeten worden. Geschiedenis Het eerste programma dat de mogelijkheid bood om nieuwsberichten van vertoning uit te sluiten was rn. Om het hoofd te kunnen bieden aan het overweldigende aanbod van toen nog ongecategoriseerde berichten kon de gebruiker reguliere expressies opnemen in een bestand met de naam KILL. rn paste deze regels toe op het onderwerp van de nieuwsberichten. Latere newsreaders boden ook de mogelijkheid de auteur van een nieuwsbericht op te geven als crite...
 
12:18 AM
@Zoidberg'-- So? If you seriously think it smells like armpit sweat, then either something is wrong with your nose, your armpits, or both.
Or you're shitting us.
 
@TonyTheLion Well, there's a good rationale for that. /In/ his armpits, that would be awkward, though
@EtiennedeMartel Or both
 
@sehe lol
 
@GamErix Gawd. You noes there is the internet for grownups, right? It's written in English
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By the way; my altitude is currently 296 meters above C level (but below C++)
 
@sehe this ^ totally this ^^^^^^^^
 
user1182183
12:20 AM
@sehe did I ever say I'm a grownup? O_O
 
@IDWMaster Dat pun...
 
@GamErix Irrelevant
 
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@sehe disagree
 
@GamErix Nobody would believe you if you did :P
 
12:20 AM
@GamErix 14, yes. Sometimes I think you're actually an American teenager who spends his time teabagging people on Call of Duty.
 
@GamErix Your disagreement is irrelevant: you are not a grownup.
 
@IDWMaster Image not found <-- fixed it
 
@IDWMaster Image not found
 
@IDWMaster Image not found
 
Hmm. Shows up on my computer
 
12:21 AM
@IDWMaster Probably in your cache.
 
They always say that.
 
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@EtiennedeMartel 1) I'm a CoD hater, I hate it, destroy it, hate everyon who wants to force me to play it 2) ye I'm 18 but wh ocares, I'm still a kiddo xD
 
@IDWMaster Rejoice
 
@GamErix You do know it's not a positive thing, right?
 
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@EtiennedeMartel If there is a need I can act as a grownup ;)
 
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12:22 AM
but here.. fuck it. this is C++ LOUNGE!
 
"everyon[e] who wants to force me to play it" - wait. @GamErix went to catholic boarding school?
 
Yes, the Lounge. Where you can act like a twat as long as it's funny.
 
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@EtiennedeMartel if I'm not funny, but I don't damage other peoples feelings, that's not bad?
 
@GamErix No, because we have you plonked
 
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@sehe catholic, ye.. but I don't really believe in God
 
12:23 AM
@GamErix The real problem starts when people begin ignoring you.
 
@GamErix Missing the point. By a continent. Or two
> The answer is that the Windows executive couldn’t identify the module we were in when the application crashed (it uses the instruction pointer to determine what code was executing). In this case, the kernel simply takes a hash of the stack so at least we might be able to identify if we’ve seen this exact crash before. Here’s the answer summarized by an engineer from Microsoft:
^ anyways, there you go
 
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@EtiennedeMartel ofcourse that time will come :P but hey, I grown up lonelym and I always will be lonely :P
 
And always be sticking out tongues in public places ":P"
 
Is there some matrix class in current STL?
 
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@sehe usefull info for future
 
12:25 AM
@Ivan0x32 inb4 robot ideone
 
@Ivan0x32 No.
 
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@sehe yep :l============>
 
user1182183
-(:)(0)=8 <- my new emoticon
 
@Ivan0x32 What kind of matrix?
 
user1182183
quess what it is
 
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TELETUBIES! :D
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes mathematicial one, with multiplication and stuff.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes You moved it? Or another misremember on my part
 
Or Boost.uBLAS.
@sehe I trust GitHub to survive longer than ideone.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Me too. Also, easier to take backups and ... version control
@GamErix That's a food processor after jamming
 
12:28 AM
@R.MartinhoFernandes thanks, that third one is what i'm looking for.
 
user1182183
@sehe oh fantasy
 
Yeah. Kids have that. Be careful not to loose it
 
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@EtiennedeMartel I’m not the only one. forum.fok.nl/topic/945718 (Dutch site) (NSFW)
 
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Tadum.tss.
 
@Zoidberg'-- Google Translate is weird.
 
12:35 AM
I'm jelly now :(
 
I'm so lucky.
 
@EtiennedeMartel Yes we are T_T
 
user142019
 
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Stupid GitHub Y U FUZZY ICONS
 
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They wrote in their own blog post how to avoid that. T_T
 
12:47 AM
Ohno
Fuzzy icons
 
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I’m going to hide it with AdBlock.
 
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1:14 AM
libuv y u assertion failure.
 
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1:27 AM
Oh forgot to initialize a struct. Wonderful language, C.
 
#define Wonderful Abomination
 
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Why am I even writing this in C89.
 
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struct server_data *server_data = server->data;
 
@Zoidberg'-- Only you knows the answer to that question, kid.
 
Hi everyone. I know this is the wrong room, but no one is available in VB room. I was wondering if anyone here happened to know VB?
 
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1:33 AM
2 hours ago, by Zoidberg'--
@Ell FUCK VISUAL BASIC
 
Please?
I really need help.
 
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Ah it’s 2:34 and nobody’s here so I don’t mind.
 
@user1079641 Oh dear.
Look, it's the C++ room.
We all dislike VB.
 
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@EtiennedeMartel We all dislike everything. FTFY
 
1:35 AM
@EtiennedeMartel, I apologize for it. But please understand my situation. There is no one in the VB room and this is probably the most lively and active room on SO chat right now.
And I need to get this done right now/
 
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> Before you continue, keep this in mind. You can skip all this fuss and go ask your question on the main site, at any time, because that's what that site is all about.
 
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> And no PHP or Java questions, no matter what. They will be binned and you will be deemed annoying. See #1.
 
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And VB is equally terrible as Java.
 
@user1079641 Alright, here's how it work here: you can ask, but don't expect an answer.
 
I already did ask on SO. Its just, I don't have an hour or two to wait for them to give an answer
 
1:36 AM
What I'm saying is that you probably won't get an answer, considering it's about VB.
 
If it takes an hour or two, then it means your question isn't interesting enough.
 
Ok, I will just leave :(
 
user142019
ok
 
user142019
bye
 
1:37 AM
Switch to C#! It'll do you good.
 
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s/C#/Haskell/
 
@Zoidberg'-- Fuck Haskell.
 
user142019
 
Just to tell you what I am on:
 
Why is that so urgent?
 
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1:38 AM
Oh Windows stuff. I don’t know shit about it. :P
 
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Hmm libuv consumes 6% CPU while waiting for TCP connections.
 
I am actually a student and need it to be finished by tomorrow
tomorrow morning to be exact
 
Oh, I know that feel.
 
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When did you start and since when did you know?
 
The project is actually bigger than this. Everything else is finished and this is the last part.
 
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1:41 AM
Ah okay.
 
So I started before, didn't expect it to be this difficult.
 
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Ah well, you’re lucky.
 
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I have to do my homework in Java. ;_;
 
I had to do that last year
 
@Zoidberg'-- What? You think fucking Visual Basic .NET is better than Java?
 
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1:42 AM
Yup.
 
What is wrong with you?
Sure, you got .NET's libraries, which is good, but the syntax.
Dear sweet tits the syntax.
 
I have to say that Java isn't a bad language for homework. Performance doesn't matter and you can easily throw lots of shit together and it'll probably pass - since you can't really shoot yourself that easily.
 
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Come on Java doesn’t even have fucking lambdas.
 
It's like someone looked at AppleScript and thought "Yep, this isn't verbose enough".
 
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lololol
 
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1:43 AM
AppleScript is the joke of all jokes.
 
What about Objective-C?
 
A metajoke.
@Mysticial It's just old. Like C. Something that used to be good, but seems awfully out of place now.
 
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Objective-C is a very little bit better than PHP.
 
@Zoidberg'-- PHP was never good.
 
@Mysticial Do not mention that here. That's as bad as being a wizard and yelling YouKnoWho's name >.>;
 
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1:44 AM
@EtiennedeMartel I didn’t say it ever was.
 
@Borgleader The guy with no nose?
 
@EtiennedeMartel Yeah the snake dude
 
I wonder why nobody ever shot him with a fucking AK-47 or something.
 
user142019
Objective-C is nice if you need low-level stuff and a lot of runtime reflection. Besides that, it’s terrible.
 
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Or if you like duck typing. :P
 
1:46 AM
Are you guys sure that you won't be able to help?
 
@EtiennedeMartel Actually they did
 
If I end up at Apple next year, I'll have to learn Objective-C.
 
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I don’t know VB.
 
:((
Last hope = gone
 
1:46 AM
I know VB.
I just hate it with a passion.
 
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@Mysticial it’s not that bad.
 
I figure I'd rather make sure that I get the shit scared out of me now so that I won't have any shit left to scare out when I actually have to learn Objective-C.
 
Why use VB when you can use C#?
 
@EtiennedeMartel If you could help me, please, it would be really big for me, please?
I promise I will never ask again
 
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I know everything about Objective-C.
 
1:48 AM
And to think that I'll have to learn it well enough to spot performance problems at a glance.
 
user142019
Use a profiler for that.
 
I can barely do that in C and C++. Can't do it Java because of the JVM and the JIT... and now Objective-C?
 
user142019
Objective-C people usually use Instruments which uses DTrace.
 
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But if you need performance-critical code, don’t write it in Objective-C.
 
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The compiler cannot even inline method calls.
 
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1:50 AM
Use C or C++ for that.
 
I don't think I've ever nailed a Java performance question on SO. Since I can't spot the problems at first glance like I can with the C questions.
 
user142019
Performance issues in Objective-C are usually related to concurrency and I/O.
 
@user1079641 Alright, alright. I got to say, that question you posted? It sucks.
 
user142019
Don’t implement number-crunching code in Objective-C.
 
Concurrency questions on SO are hard to answer unless it's made very simple like OpenMP.
 
1:52 AM
@EtiennedeMartel, unfortunately, that is it. I can't get it. Please help me.
 
The rest of them fall under the tl;dr category.
 
@user1079641 What's your actual issue?
 
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I hardly ever do concurrency, and if I do it I use the actor model and message queues.
 
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But Objective-C is almost exclusively used for GUI applications and those need concurrency if you don’t want to hang the UI. :<
 
Most of the concurrency I do is all static.
So I've never really had to deal with really nasty non-deterministic stuff outside of class projects.
 
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1:54 AM
In Objective-C you do concurrency by sending tasks (lambdas/functions) to one of the queues, and those that need to update the UI you send to the main queue. It’s pretty simple.
 
@EtiennedeMartel: FWIW, I think Alf is around our age as well.
 
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If you update all data on the main queue you won’t need mutexes this way.
 
As you see in that gui of that codeproject website, you click New and a new qfi file is created. It is like a virtual hard disk. You can click add, browse for files, and add them as data to that virtual file. What I want to do is add the same functionality with folders. I want to be able to create new virtual folders inside that "virtual hard disk" and browse through the folders.
@EtiennedeMartel ^
 
user142019
And computations and network traffic you just hand over to a different queue.
 
@user1079641 Oh shit. That might take a while, and I'm hungry as fuck.
 
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1:57 AM
UI events are also just tasks on the main queue.
 
:(
Ok, you can go. It is my fate to do it alone.
No pressure bro, you can go if you want to.
 
user142019
lol “bro”
 
user142019
But if you need very much concurrency, consider Erlang.
 
Sorry for using "bro" if I was not supposed to
 
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I don’t really care.
 

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