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13:00
@R.MartinhoFernandes Yeah. I'll just compare Mono implementation before I do that.
@R.MartinhoFernandes mildly NSFW then
> Mono
> implementation
pick one
@KonradRudolph Imagine your boss sitting right behind you (slightly diagonally, actually). Then click that link
@sehe I laughed at "slightly diagonally"
omigosh cicada's new profile pic
@BartekBanachewicz Old news
13:02
What about it?
i haven't been stalking you guys for awhile
It sure is pretty.
Prettier than roaches!
anyways, I'm @intel.com now.
>:(
Oh, it's still the old pic.
13:02
@sehe That’s your opinion
@BartekBanachewicz No problem. Cicada has a stalker right there, in the profile pic!
@Cicada Do you actually have white/blond hair?
No. That's CSS
user1804599
No, it's green.
13:03
@KonradRudolph It's not that blonde. It's dyed in that pic. Remember the first pic I had? That's its natural color.
Lol. Les cheveux - The English don't pluralize their hairs, usually :)
@Cicada Ah, dyed. That was my question.
@Cicada Pink-ish yellow is their natural color?
@Cicada they look all fine; altough dying is certainly a way to destroy your hair
@sehe fixd le gramer for u
13:05
@R.MartinhoFernandes I remember that one too :)
@R.MartinhoFernandes What. No.
@Cicada And correctly too. +1
@BartekBanachewicz Apparently it doesn't increase my death rate (which is about 100% already, or so I hear)
@Cicada Thought so too.
@Cicada oh snap. would it be dyeing? damn
13:06
… Wow, what did I do? I started a discussion about Cicada’s hair. Woe!
@BartekBanachewicz that pun
@KonradRudolph Your pubic hair is next!
Do you dye it?
@Cicada i didn't see that coming.
@Cicada That is so crossing a line! :p
(and no)
lol
but I always wanted to dye my chest hair bright green
… which so far has failed due to lack of sufficent chest hair :p
13:09
@KonradRudolph What.
@KonradRudolph "They said I could become anything, so I became grass"
@R.MartinhoFernandes Not everybody is a hairy Portuguese :p
uuuuuuuu
Did it hurt?
@KonradRudolph Yeah, I'm not.
Wait, you’re not Portuguese?
13:10
Me neither
@KonradRudolph Erm.
@KonradRudolph But why bright green?
@R.MartinhoFernandes Who else has bright green dyed hair? Exactly
@LucDanton Hello you too
@kbok yeah that one is amazing
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@sbi For me, the alcohol wasn't the problem, but rather that I was at home after 4am and I had 4hours of sleep the day before.
Laziness
How did it go?
Xeo
Xeo
13:13
@R.MartinhoFernandes I slept - till now. :(
And I'd be asleep still if it wasn't for a call.
call
Turns out this is valid python: stackoverflow.com/a/13307417/85371
__builtins__ = [t for t in ().__class__.__bases__[0].__subclasses__() if 'warning' in t.__name__][0]()._module.__builtins__
@kbok yea, I'm frantically moving my mouse now. This part of internet again.
And they say C++ stdlib code is ugly. This reminds me of database metadata or similar.
@Xeo what call?
13:15
Call of nature
Xeo
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@BartekBanachewicz Phone call. :P
@sehe s/stdlib//
@Xeo That I could've figured out by myself
@Cicada oh, that is so smart. haha
@sehe You think that would wake him up?
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@R.MartinhoFernandes Sometimes, it does.
But it has to be really urgent then.
13:17
@sehe It essentially is database metadata
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@Xeo Pfft. You chatted here until 6:45that is why you are tired how. Also, you owe it to me that you have been home at 4 at all. I threw the two of you out, after all. You would have sat and talked all night.
hence the underscores
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@BartekBanachewicz A wakeup call, of course!
user1357851
@sbi yes they could be sitting in their own homes and chat over the internet instead
user1357851
13:19
it would have saved hims so much alcohol
@R.MartinhoFernandes Well, urge. I wake up when I need to pee. But, Xeo is almost a russian. Perhaps he just lets it go
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@sbi Heh. I was actually awake until 7:30, since my smallest brother's birthday is today, and I wanted to congratulate him in the morning. If I went to sleep right after coming home, there's no way that would've happened.
@sbi that certainly was hell of a party. I wish i was there.
@BartekBanachewicz Your definition of a party: if party-goers get thrown out, it's a party
user1357851
with 3 people, it is almost a congregation!
13:21
@BartekBanachewicz He's a terrible host. He tricks you into getting drunk, then kicks you out, and then spreads all kinds of lies all over the Internet.
In other news, I have finally succeeded at my task. I am awesome.
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Oh yeah, YIL, robots are really bad with alcohol.
user1357851
but with alcohol it could be mistaken to be 6 people, but with enough alcohol you wouldn't remember how many people were there at all!
@sehe more or less :)
well, if I had a VW, i could probably drive there next time. Warsaw to Berlin in one tank.
user1357851
why do you need a VW
user1357851
you mean a toyota or volt couldn't make it?
13:24
@Telkitty Read the last sentence again :P
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Oo
@Xeo What? Why?
I still don't know how the ape could tell before I did.
user1357851
I drive a tiny tiny toyota echo 1.5 litre - did 300km with 1 tank before
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@R.MartinhoFernandes Still drunk?
user1357851
13:26
drunk people are the best - you can trick them into telling you so much :D
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@R.MartinhoFernandes "I came out of the pub totally drunk, and that asshole steps on my fingers."
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@Telkitty Not everybody has a home. Specifically, the two of them are looking for an apartment.
@BartekBanachewicz I don't think VW makes tanks. Also, to be at my home, you'd have to be invited.
He meant a gas tank.
dat pun again.
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13:28
@sehe Wait, you didn't ping me in that one. I overlooked it! Also, why am I almost a russian? I'm half-italian, but that's it.
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@R.MartinhoFernandes Nonsense. Why would he drive in the gas tank?
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@sbi I assume everyone here has one, a bit hard to be homeless and chat in some online room all times
@sbi well, it's not like I'm going to tank my way into your home :P I just think it's cool to talk face to face with people I only talk to online.
@Telkitty I'm at work FWIW
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@Telkitty "home" != "place where you stay and have internet access"
For me, anyways.
Btw robot, auto doesn't behave exactly like T in the face of list-initialization.
auto x{1,2,3}; creates an std::initializer_list, while f({1,2,3}) is a deduction error.
13:31
@sbi Ok, so... you didn't miss the joke, and were actually joking and I missed that you were joking and now you're trolling me, right?
@Xeo Yeah, I know that. That's really annoying.
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@R.MartinhoFernandes You lost me half way through that sentence.
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See, he's still drunk.
Maybe he should start up his sobering algorithm.
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@kbok yes &?
@Xeo Am not!
Dammit.
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Oh! No!
I have just removed the ref_counted_buffer from my code and the code still crashes. So it wasn't the buffer at all!
13:34
Maybe you're still drunk.
:P
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Damn, what a waste of time this is!
@sbi Are you saying you remove code at random and see if it still crashes? à_à
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@Cicada No.
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@sbi: What I forgot to ask yesterday, did you try commenting out the deletes in the destructor of that buffer and see if it still crashes, or is there not enough memory to even test?
Are crashdumps / debuggers forbidden in Germany or what
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13:37
23 hours ago, by sbi
@sehe I only need a certain number of buffers under certain conditions, and I keep a number of buffers around for reuse. If I make the latter number big enough, no buffer will be deleted. Then, nothing crashes. So I already know it's only when I delete buffers.
@Cicada I hope not :S
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Oh, right.
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Q: email's password finding in C/C++/Java

user1812306I am looking for program to help me. Please can someone give a code for cracking email passwords? Thanks for the help!! --

Xeo
Xeo
Nuke it.
13:40
@LuchianGrigore he intents to crack passwords with it, obviously. didn't you read his question? :p
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@Cicada I am coding on a highly parallel logging/tracing system for an embedded device that only allows debugging vie TCP.
user1357851
thus your fishy destructor yesteraday?
@sbi My condolences.
hmm
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@Cicada It's actually fun.
13:44
had someone fill in a form calling me Mr E-mail Applicant
I still see Doc Brown in the ladybug's avatar.
@DeadMG lolwut
@sbi If deleting the buffers is causing a problem, how about not deleting the buffers?
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@MartinJames Then I have a crash due to running out of memory. Where's the improvement in that?
@sbi Can you not wait for some existing buffers to be freed up?
@Xeo Oh, well. Close enough
13:48
TIL half-italian = almost russian, therefore russian ~= 0.6 italian.
@DeadMG They didn't want to offend you by saying "Dear Mr DeadMG"
@R.MartinhoFernandes On the Richter scale
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@MartinJames I have a complex system where I recycle buffers and keep them around until they are used again. There's a minimum number of buffers I keep around and a maximum number of buffers, above which messages are dropped (because the tracing can't process them fast enough). When the number oscillates between those two, buffers are sometimes deleted.
user1357851
Buy ram
user1357851
increase the buffer
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@kbok how large is parisan finance IT sector
user1357851
@sbi can also randomly kick off useless users
user1357851
and free up some buffers
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@Telkitty Be glad I can not kick useless users, otherwise you'd be gone from this room by now.
I try vey hard to not use anything but a fixed pool of buffers on embedded. Modifying the size of a buffer pool during a run is not somehing I would like to do, especially if the buffers are making their way into/outof interrupt-handlers.
13:54
@sbi Randomly deleting stuff is a well-known technique used by the Linux kernel to manage memory
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@sbi Is it really necessary to actually have the number change there? Why not go for a simple pool?
@sbi Why not just always keep around the maximum number?
user1357851
@sbi if you kick off all the useless users you would have no one in this room
@Telkitty There's quite a lot of jobs for everyone. I'm not sure what kind of answer you expected though
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@Xeo How much messages a system produces depends on dynamically changing circumstances. The same goes for how much memory is needed. As it is, the min/max number of buffers can be manipulated from the outside for every module to accommodate for that. /cc @DeadMG
user1357851
13:57
then you should have done your maths
user1357851
ie when it is your busiest time
Each module has a separate pool?
user1357851
and what is your peak traffic
user1357851
your max buffet would have to be able to handle 99 -99.9% of the cases
user1357851
depends on how critical is the system
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sbi
13:59
@MartinJames A "module" is something like a process on this HW. It can have any number of tasks running in parallel.
buffet
user1357851
yum ... & permlinked :/
Yeah - I noticed that too - getting hungry now.
Hmm.. my embedded stuff does not have processes, just threads, so I only need one pool.
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@MartinJames This is a 15yo vxworks version here. (No, that's not a typo. Fifteen.) No memory protection. If I write arbitrarily into the memory, I might hit something important, and the thing goes belly-up.
Yay. I have the problem down to two headers and one cpp file that I changed! Now I'll move all the changes back in one by one, and see what did it.
Hello.
14:13
Is there a way to convince Windows to always open a certain program on a certain screen?
You mean on a dual monitor?
Windows should memorize such information automatically unless of course it has been overwritten by the program
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That awkward moment when you realize you have been moving changes between files in the wrong direction.
in which case you're basically screwed
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14:15
@R.MartinhoFernandes Win7?
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@R.MartinhoFernandes Use AeroSnap. I think it's WinKey+Left/Right, probably with Shift thrown into it. Works like a charm.
Google lead me to this. Doesn't seem to be freeware though.
Win+arrows works out of the box, but requires manual intervention each time.
Unless you mean that it does something else.
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@R.MartinhoFernandes Close it in that screen? Atleast that's how I remember it.
14:19
@sbi Oh, that's for getting that functionality on XP/Vista. 7 comes with that ootb.
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@R.MartinhoFernandes You snap your windows from one monitor to the next with the press of two keys. What simpler way could you want?
Everything I looked at says that Windows remembers it automatically..
@Xeo Doesn't seem to work :(
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@R.MartinhoFernandes AeroSnap is, TTBOMK, the name for that feature built into the OS:
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14:20
Anywas, I just found out that I have to deal with my brother and his birthday guests today, since my parents are working. They could have told me that a bit earler. -___-
They couldn't. You were asleep.
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@sbi Open them in some screen without having to move it there?
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@Xeo How old? How many guests?
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@R.MartinhoFernandes I was awake in the morning. They were too. As I said, I congratulated my smallest brother then.
@sbi 3, my grandma, aunt and little cousin. Maybe someone I forgot.
Oh yeah. And my older little brother, I think.
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@Xeo Ah, Ok. The other day I had a whole bunch of 5-9year olds to take care of at my son's 8th birthday. That was stressful.
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14:23
Heh
Well, you indirectly signed up for that by having him. :P
Anyways, need to get going to fetch him from the kindergarden.
Later o/
> Oh, and just a little nitpick: I decided against the name unicode_string, since technically std::u16string and std::u32string are also Unicode (even if nobody knows whether they're UCS or UTC). My choice was multibyte_string, typedefed to m8string, m16string, and the rather useless m32string.
Puppy do you have any idea WTF is UTC?
It obviously cannot be Universal Coordinated Time.
lol how did that become a link
typo of UTF?
14:34
C and F are right next to each other
Makes perfect sense.
(Well, the sentence still doesn't make any sense, but the typo does make perfect sense)
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sbi
What with them only having paws, puppies have a hard time typing.
@sbi Oh, the puppy did not type that.
What the hell
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Q: Placement new for block of pointers

user1812165i am trying to allocate pointers of the first order one by one at memory. Pointer of the second order must walk through this queue and handle to objects, created on that pointers. Placement new works fine when i allocate the queue of objects(not pointers to them), but when i am trying the same ...

Use goggles.
14:44
I don't see anything
@R.MartinhoFernandes link?
javascript: (function () { if (window.goggles && window.goggles.active) { window.goggles.stop(); } else { window.GOGGLE_SERVER='http://goggles.sneakygcr.net/page'; var scr = document.createElement('script'); scr.type = 'text/javascript'; scr.src = 'http://goggles.sneakygcr.net/bookmarklet.js?rand='+Math.random(); document.documentElement.appendChild(scr); } })();
that?
I meant that the code is ugly, so you may want to protect your eyes.
14:45
Oh.
It's a health and safety warning.
I was hoping to see some dick drawings or something funny. :(
Oh that's tagged C++, I didn't even tell.
Ctrl + F "*" -> 29 results
printf WHY SO MANY PRINTF!?!?
14:48
if (false) { foo<int>(); } // will foo be instantiated when compiler optimizations are enabled?
@StackedCrooked Does it matter? (the answer is similar to the answer for the question you asked)
why would you use xor to check a boolean equality?
seems rather strange.
bool val = !(somebool ^ otherbool);
Silliness, what else.
when both are equal it will be 0, so returning true
.99999.. == 1 thread.. hm.. these are always fun.
4chan
@Rapptz there you go
lol
There's a lot of drawings too on this chat
14:56
@R.MartinhoFernandes It doesn't matter but I still would like to know :) And I can't parse the answer is similar to the answer for the question you asked.
Sharepoint is so bad, it needs it's own stackexchange site
Also, that is completely unreadable
White text + grey bg
^ favourite proof :D
@StackedCrooked If the answer to "Does it matter?" is "no", the answer to "will foo be instantiated?" is "no, it doesn't have to".
15:11
hmm
how does union { T* ptr; unsigned long long padding; }; the padding bit force 32bit & 64 bit compatibility?
You shall not onebox: i.imgur.com/EPppL.gif (hilarious as hell)
> SharePoint enthusiasts
That exists?
@TonyTheLion That struct will have the strictest alignment between those of of T* or unsigned long long. Assuming that unsigned long long has the same alignment requirements as 64-bit pointers, that makes the whole thing aligned for 64-bit pointers, even on 32-bit systems (32-bit pointers have less strict alignment requirements than 64-bit pointers).
There are really people that are enthusiastic about SharePoint?
@EtiennedeMartel Yes. I have met them :(
15:16
@R.MartinhoFernandes what struct? You mean T* in the union?
@TonyTheLion Oh, sorry, s/struct/union/
ah ok
so the essence is that it will be 64bit aligned like this, even on a 32bit system?
ah right
rosalind is down :(
15:25
a class called pointer without RAII
meh
I clicked nevertheless
You guys saying something is NSFW is basically either "this is interesting" or "there is boobs"
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@kbok Actually, I found this criterion posted by someone else earlier rather fitting: Would you want your co-workers see this when they glance at your monitor from across the room? If not, it's NSFW.
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A: Can the guy who coded my website leave a backdoor in the code?

Luchian GrigoreYes. What you can do is hire a different programmer to review the first programmer's code. But then, you risk having the second programmer leave backdoors, in which case you'll need to hire a third programmer to review the second programmers review.

@LuchianGrigore This is a criminal offense ?
15:36
Probably.
Crap, question got deleted. :(
when insert into a vector, is that always in the front?
We did this all the time
We used to put the site in production before the client paid. There was generally a system such that if the client didn't pay, we would pull the plug.
@sbi how is this nsfw?
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5 mins ago, by sbi
@kbok Actually, I found this criterion posted by someone else earlier rather fitting: Would you want your co-workers see this when they glance at your monitor from across the room? If not, it's NSFW.
Does this make me a criminal ? :)
> An amazing thing happend that for instance, If I build Project A, it generates A.lib file in lib folder,When I build Project B,it generates B.lib
amazing
15:38
@sbi depends on the coworkers...
@TonyTheLion Insert depends on position. Unless you mean push_back because vectors don't have push_front.
Not really. Know most basics. Rather want to understand by writing apps than reading docs ;> — dj8000 18 mins ago
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@LuchianGrigore I think the key phrase in this is "from across the room." Depending on the size of your room, all your coworkers see might be a bear with a huge, pink red, and widely open vagina. If you saw this flashing up on the monitor of the guy across the room, what would you think about him?
some people.
@sbi fun guy :))
15:40
@sbi He's a guy who's into female teddy bears
@Rapptz ah of course
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@kbok Yeah. Now, would you be thought to be into female teddy bears?
@sbi I guess you'd be into female apes? :P
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@TonyTheLion Are you trying to make me post a pic of a pink-red bonobo vagina?
Oh gawd, don't push him.
15:42
@sbi Whatever floats your boat
I'm kidding. This pic is NSFW actually
@sbi Post whatever you wish :P
3 mins ago, by R. Martinho Fernandes
Oh gawd, don't push him.
@R.MartinhoFernandes you say that.
I'm pushing... pushing...
oh ape left
meh
seriously, that's not funny
15:47
wut?
It's the Internet, everything is funny. :P (Except when it's not)
not when you get fired or people tell stories about you. that's reality.
@Cicada after 10 minutes, it got repetitive
@bamboon get fired?
what were you referring to as "not funny"?
posting inappropriate pictures
holy crap, where do you work? amish software publishing company?
15:51
Sounds like it.
@LuchianGrigore Still, made you lose 10 minutes.
@LuchianGrigore I liked this one hooooooooo.com
TIL 10 minutes = countless hours.
> Carbonated beverages, he explains, could be very painful when poured in the noses of interrogation subjects who have been turned upside down.
It wasn't "lost" time... :D
My favorite was, by far, hristu.net
15:53
my least favourite was koalastothemax.com because it drove me mad

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