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7:00 PM
9 mins ago, by Tony The Tiger
37 mins ago, by Tony The Tiger
has everyone seen the new video by Herb Sutter?
@Als THERE IS THE LINK
 
Als
@TonyTheTiger: Thank you for not making me say it 5th time before you posted it again.
 
@Als I had already posted it
you didn't see it apparently
 
@Cat: see his edit.
See the error.
Be baffled.
 
Als
@TonyTheTiger: Yes And I said so...like almost shouted..2,..3 times
 
I saw it, and then answered.
 
7:03 PM
Ugh, MetallicPriest dude, is either plain stupid or just being a troll
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Q: Is there an assembly language for CUDA?

widggI'm asking this because I know there's a way to use binary files instead of source files. Also, I'm guessing that with an assembly language, it would be easier to simulate function pointers. Unless the assembly on a GPU is totally different from the one on a CPU.

 
> Ya, but in C it is valid! – MetallicPriest ↵ 15 secs ago
 
grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
 
Well, then go write C.
 
GROWL
 
@TonyTheTiger He hasn't learned about CUDAC yet
 
7:05 PM
lol
 
@Als meh, it annoyed me that you kept saying it, Lions are not as patient as Tigers
@FredOverflow hahahha
14 mins ago, by R. Martinho Fernandes
@TonyTheTiger Tony the Lion?
I guess this could be a good suggestion for a new name
but I might make it something else entirely... lulz
 
Tony the Tony.
 
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Q: What is the best practice of typecast overloading?

Dai Haociclass A { public: A ( unsigned _a ) : a (_a) { } operator unsigned& () { return a; } operator unsigned () { return a; } unsigned a; }; In the above example, I created two typecast operators, one gives reference, one gives a copy. Bo...

meh, conversion operators
why?
 
This is a very interesting map: aschmann.net/AmEng/#SmallMapCanada
 
7:11 PM
does anyone have windows xp embedded experience...specifically booting from a usb?
 
Hi!
 
Oh, stumbled upon this interesting video again:
 
31
Q: Is modern encryption needlessly complicated?

OzzahRSA, DES, AES, etc. all use (relatively) complicated mathematics to encrypt some message with some key. For each of these methods, there have been several documented vulnerabilities found over the years. Some even believe that there is a vulnerability in AES known only to the NSA. On the other h...

 
For a second there I thought it was on Skeptics.
 
7:17 PM
hi
 
okay, watching the 1GB Herb video now, back in 45 minutes
 
@CatPlusPlus Because of the NSA thing?
 
> Some even believe that there is a vulnerability in AES known only to the NSA
Ugh
 
@kbok conspiracy.stackexchange.com
 
@RMartinhoFernandes That too.
 
7:18 PM
lol.
 
[conspiracy.se]
Nope.
 
so why when you use std::find and get the iterator back, can you not do if (iter)
 
Though Skeptics come close sometimes.
 
sbi
@TonyTheTiger Three more votes to close.
 
it says it cannot convert iter to bool
 
7:19 PM
@TonyTheTiger If it doesn't find, it returns the end iterator.
 
Why would you do if (iter)?
 
So, if(iter != container.end()) { /* found */ } else { /* not found */).
 
@RMartinhoFernandes hah ok
 
sbi
Anyway, I came home to my father (who is visiting me) looking grave, because he spilled a drink across his laptop, and the laptop stopped working. I have unscrewed about a million screws, but seem to be unable to open the case. <sigh/> The net has videos showing how to open an ASUS laptop, but my google fu failed to find me one for an F7Z. Anyone any idea how to proceed? I suppose I just need to let air get in, so it dries. But short of a crowbar I'm out of ideas.
 
laptops are notorious for being hard to open
try a dremel
 
7:24 PM
If all screws are unscrewed then usually a little force will help. Disclaimer: it might not.
 
@sbi put it in a place where it is dry and somewhat hot, and then just leave it to dry for 24 - 48hrs, without openening
 
An oven!
 
after that time, it should be pretty much dry, at which time you can try turn it on
crowbar is a bad idea, imho
take out the battery too, I suggest, but you've prob done that already
 
sbi
@TonyTheTiger I wish I could wait that long, but he's gone leave pretty soon, and I'm afraid he'll end up with a still not working laptop, being far away from me.
 
@sbi: The manual should show how to do it, for upgrades and stuff
 
7:26 PM
Mine doesn't.
 
@sbi the last time I tried to open a laptop, I ended up unable to close the case again
 
@sbi. Well I used to fix laptops. And had situations like yours a lot. Never try to turn it on while its not dry. You have to dissasamble it. clean it with spirit (prefered 90%). leave it a bit. Take it all back. And pray :x
 
@sbi hmmm, then you're gonna have to open it, but even if you do, and dry some it manually, I'd still leave it to dry for the next day, cause water could have gotten in anywhere
 
sbi
@DeadMG There's panels underneath that let you access all vital parts when you open them. I suppose that's what the manual would explain, although I can't check, because its several thousand miles away. :(
@jalf How encouraging.
 
@sbi well, it works!
 
sbi
7:28 PM
@legion Never mind the spirit, just tell me how I can open it!
 
but half the case kinda flops off if you hold it wrong
Violence, IMO
 
sbi
@jalf This one needs to travel around a lot. It's not sitting on a table in his living room all year, so a broken case is really bad.
 
sledgehammer
 
just make sure to note carefully where each screw came from. I think that's where it started to go wrong for me
 
oh yea, valid point
 
sbi
7:29 PM
@jalf Well, I know that much about opening unknown devices. :-x
 
so I heard from my first interview again, and they're still all positive about me, but still haven't decided
 
@sbi. at which part in dissasemble you stuck ?
 
Als
okay calling it a day folks
have a good one
 
sbi
@legion It's a case with no visible thingummies to take off the keyboard, so I unscrewed every screw at the bottom. Part of the case's top (the front) now comes of, but I can't open it all the way to the rear, to take it off.
 
@TonyTheTiger ah cool, I think
Tell them to hurry up. ;)
would suck to end up missing both jobs because these guys were too slow ;)
 
7:35 PM
@jalf I missed the second already
they got someone else
but they were using a C macro language anyways, didn't really want to code in that
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A: What is this pattern's name?

Tony The TigerI think you're looking for type traits.

is this correct?
 
@TonyTheTiger ah
@TonyTheTiger oh right, I forgot about that :)
 
@jalf the reason, they said, they didn't pick me, is because they found me to be too much into C++ and difficult things, they thought I was gonna get bored quickly with their macro language :P
 
@TonyTheTiger hah
"too into difficult things"
 
@jalf that was what they said, not me
 
7:39 PM
"We won't hire you because you're too good for us."
 
@sbi. Damn it. I even changed mainboard to this laptop a year ago. Well since my memory isnt good I will say the steps you should take. 1) take all screw off botom. 2) take HDD/ dvd. 3) look for the wifi card and take it off. 4) take the panel with buttons (on/off and so on..) 5). if you can remove keyboard. 6) remove lcd screen (be gentle with wires. 7) look for screws under keyboard and remove it. 8) should top aff the laptop come out. 9) probably few more wires to remove and you can take MB.
 
I don't think, judging from the knowledge in this room, that I am that much into "difficult" things
lol
@RMartinhoFernandes basically, that was the excuse yea
 
@TonyTheTiger Have to admit, I find my wisdom to be vastly in excess of yours
 
How humble of you.
 
I try
 
7:41 PM
Not that I'd expect anything else.
 
@DeadMG yea well, I didn't expect any other answer from you, besides blatant big headedness
 
@TonyTheTiger I know, but it sounds cool :)
 
@jalf lol, but I"m prob the dumbest one in here, when it comes to C++
 
@TonyTheTiger My head has to be rather big to fit my excessively sized brain
 
@DeadMG lulz
I hate outlook sometimes
 
7:43 PM
"excessively sized" as in "high volume per unit of intelligence"?
 
sbi
@legion Thanks. Lemme recap: All the screws are off. The HDD I have removed. There are no ways I can find to remove the DVD drive, no visible screws. I see the WLAN card, but it's just a wee thing stuck into a socket, I don't know what removing it would bring me (except for trouble to put it back in). The panel with the buttons, the keyboard, the touchpad, and the rest of the upper surface seem to be in one piece. (I'm sure they aren't, but I can't see any cracks.)
How to proceed?
 
hairdryer, maybe?
 
@sbi My DVD drive has no screws. Did you try just pulling it?
 
@RMartinhoFernandes I was thinking more of "high volume leading to high intelligence"
 
@DeadMG or at least high volume (and verbosity)
 
7:45 PM
lol
 
sbi
@RMartinhoFernandes There's just the thing that slides in and out (don't know what name it has in English, tray?), that comes right out of the case.
 
@RMartinhoFernandes That sounds like the modus operandi of one of my friends. "When in doubt, bruteforce".
 
@jalf someone I know once tried to blowdry their keyboard on a laptop with a hairdryer, they managed to melt the keys, so not a good idea
lol
 
@LucDanton It's not brute force, it just slides out.
 
@RMartinhoFernandes That's what he always pleads, too.
 
7:47 PM
But I need to take some stuff out first.
 
"Look how it just comes out without a hitch". Then there's a loud CRACK.
 
"Look how it just comes out without a hitch". That's what she said.
2
 
she said that about a DVD player?? wait... wut?!!!
 
lol
 
sbi
@jalf It's dry from the outside. There must be some liquid on the inside, though. Well, I hope that's why it isn't working.
 
7:49 PM
@sbi yeah but if you've got the case partially open, can try blowing into that, I meant
better than sitting and glaring at laptop that you can't crack completely open, at least ;)
 
@sbi. Well its not one pease. about dvd. if you removed screw which holds it. try with needle push in hole. this hole is on dvd drive (you will see it). when the dvd eject and you cant remove it. wbout panel. hmm look at the back (not bottom) if there is any screws. if there is, they definetly holds front panel. remove screws and try to put screwdrive in the place where lcd ant panel connects (sorta) and pult a little. if you remove front panel. you will see some screws which hold keyboard.
and yeah my english sux big time :/
 
sbi
@jalf Yeah, not that bad of an idea, really. However, I just checked, and it seems my teenage daughter doesn't have a hairdryer. :( (I never owned one.)
 
about hairdryer. from experience (forget it)
 
sbi
@legion Ok, the hole of one of the screws I removed looks like it might have kept the DVD drive in place. Lemme fiddle a bit...
 
=] gl
 
7:53 PM
DX.
 
@CatPlusPlus Deus Ex?
 
I thought Human Revolution was pretty fun and well worth the money
 
Deus ex is a very good game. indeed ;D
 
my biggest gripe with the game was that you can't sleep with the pilot :(
 
@DeadMG Me too.
 
7:55 PM
Lol.
 
@DeadMG My biggest gripe is that you can't avoid the bosses if you're going stealth.
 
My biggest gripe with the game is that there is no movie.
 
@EtiennedeMartel There are very, very strong environmental means to defeat all the bosses, though
you don't have to be combat specced to take them at all, even on Give Me Deus Ex
 
My biggest gripe is 50€.
 
@DeadMG Well, at least for the first one.
 
7:56 PM
my biggest gripe with the game is that I never played it
 
Throw the gas canisters at him
the animation takes forever, so he won't shoot back or see you run behind him
and he'll take a lot of damage
 
KILL IT WITH ZE FIRE.
 
you can kill him just with the barrels of gas and explosives around the room without ever taking a hit
 
sbi
@legion Well, this DVD drive absolutely, positively does not have a front panel. It's just the tray sliding into the case. I opened the tray, and it seems there's a tin case around the drive sitting in the laptop case, but this didn't slide out by the force I tried to apply to the trace pulling. :(
 
7:57 PM
But what about the second and third bosses?
 
second boss
the second boss, as long as she doesn't stay in cloak for a certain length of time, will never attack you
 
I had to spam concussion mines.
 
like a bauss
 
as long as you keep chasing her, you can shoot her indefinitely
 
But you still have to shoot her.
 
7:58 PM
and if you have the electricity invulnerability augment, you can trick her (or do it yourself) into blowing up the things at the side
it does a lot of damage, and stuns her for a considerable time
 
Yes, I had to blow the four things
 
@sbi can't you find a video for another ASUS that looks similar?
 
third boss
the key to the third boss is the glass in the middle
 
sbi
@RMartinhoFernandes I've found one for another ASUS, but it didn't apply at all.
 
there's a laser cannon in a side area before you enter the room, and it can shoot through the glass
the boss, however, cannot shoot through the glass, and he also can't nade over it
 
7:59 PM
@sbi. damn it. what about screws in the back of the laptop (not the bottom). Is there any ?
 
Woa
Wasn't aware about that glass thing
 
between that and the laser cannon in the room, you can literally just keep running around the glass and shooting him in the head forever
 
sbi
@legion Two. Already off. :(
 
as long as you dodge the initial nades, you can kill him like Barrett without ever taking a hit
as long as you found the laser rifle before the boss
if you didn't, the one in the room doesn't have enough ammo to fully kill him, but it's still over half way
 
But my problem is that you have to carry a gun. I was going nonlethal and stealthy, and most of my points went into hacking.
 
8:00 PM
@sbi and screws under the battery
 
that's what I did too
 
I still had to carry an assault rifle just in case.
 
but all the boss rooms have guns and ammo in
usually in quite excessive quantities
 
sbi
@legion Yep, there was one hidden. Found and removed an hour ago. :(
 
except the final boss, I think
 
8:00 PM
And that bugs me. It would have been cool to have an option for everyone.
 
yeah, it does suck that you can't hack, social, or stealth around any of the bosses
 
sbi
At least it seems you have experience finding those bastards, @legion. :)
 
but the environmental tricks are very strong against them
 
@RMartinhoFernandes Yeah.
 
8:01 PM
the final boss especially has a huge, glaring environmental weakness
which I won't describe if you haven't already finished the game
 
@sbi. so you have to put screwdrive or something in place where it has arc.
and pull
gently
:)
 
@DeadMG Yeah, I had shock resistance also for that one
Was pretty easy
 
yeah
but the main shield of the final boss is also glass
so if you pack a laser rifle, you can instakill Zhao
 
Damn
I should have carried that laser rifle
 
sbi
8:03 PM
@legion I did that, with all the might I dared to apply. Maybe I'm toot girlish, but it feels like it's still stuck in the middle of the board somehow, and it would break if I pulled any harder.
 
very useful
you can also hack the middle to instantly win the first phase
 
I left it where I found it because I didn't have enough space.
 
or obtain the code from Darrow if you convinced him
 
Yeah, I managed to convince him
 
8:04 PM
Convincing people is easy once you get the augment.
 
I didn't find the augment too helpful
 
@sbi. fron panle. not all of it. only the part with on/off button :) this stuff is only hold by few screws.
 
second runthrough I didn't really take it
 
it allways is
 
Still, I never bought a praxis kit.
 
8:05 PM
mmm
 
I played on Give me a challenge, though
 
I robbed Detroit for 40k credits right at the start of the game
and then had 30k credits banked for the whole rest of the game
the final boss, I realized I had 8 unspent praxis and already had everything useful
 
I found it incredibly hard to stealth through Panchea
Especially at the end
 
I didn't bother, I just loaded up my PEPS
 
I had to spray 150 heavy rifles bullets at one point
 
8:07 PM
 
yeah, I also found that difficult
 
Yeah, but the PEPS is slow to reload
 
@CatPlusPlus Did you buy it from Steam or something? That's the only way I can think of it end up paying that much for a game
 
but the crazies are pretty dumb, you can for example, lay vending machines on the floor and they won't jump over
 
in that case, you're just asking for it
 
8:08 PM
true, but it has a pretty solid AoE
 
I think it would be ridiculously hard to get the Pacifist trophy/achievement
 
well
I was pretty sure that I had it
I played through the whole game and never killed anyone, I even saved Malik without anybody dying by the bot that lands and it's self-destruct
but at the end of the game I didn't get it anyway, and was very pissed off
 
I think if somebody just dies in your presence, you fail
 
no, I know that you have to cause the death somehow
 
sbi
@legion That looks very different from the one I have here. Lemme upload a pic...
 
8:09 PM
there are plenty of scripted sequences involving death, especially at the start of the game
 
@sbi ok waiting
 
but it's irritating that the game didn't tell me that I hadn't qualified
 
since my girl at work. I can bitch all the night :D
 
the other thing is, I found the combat somewhat unrewarding
 
Yeah, it's too easy.
 
8:10 PM
@jalf I didn't buy yet.
 
there aren't many combat-related abilities, e.g. no weapon skills, and you get very little XP for gunning someone down
 
Deus Ex > Deus EX HR >>>>>>>>>>>>> Desu Ex IW
 
what's even worse
 
According to developer commentary, they really wanted to make stealth much more rewarding.
 
a lethal takedown makes about 20x as much noise as a non-lethal one
even though the actual audio you hear is sometimes even quieter than non-lethal
 
8:11 PM
It's a better idea to just put a bullet in the head of a guard with a silenced weapon
 
METAL GEAR WANNABE
 
@jalf is that worth the investment?
 
@TonyTheTiger I say it is.
 
and will it run on my laptop
 
sbi
8:14 PM
 
@TonyTheTiger It's guaranteed to work on a PS3 or a 360
 
@sbi ok
 
I7, Nvidia GeForce GT425M
I don't have Xbox or playstation
 
@TonyTheTiger well, it's a good game, and it's much cheaper than the €50 mentioned by @CatPlusPlus
 
@TonyTheTiger It'll probably work, but not at full quality.
 
8:16 PM
hmmm le me contemplates buying game, at risk of it not running on my machine
 
sbi
@legion Despite the looks on the pix, this is all pretty smooth a surface, with no gaps to pry anything open. (This my MX6400 is very different, and I had applied quite some force to get off the panel above the keyboard, but it worked.)
 
what happens to the istream_iterator<T>(std::cin) when EOF is encountered , i means what gets changed inside the object?
 
cin can never encounter EOF
 
sbi
@DeadMG 'course it can. Type ^Z (F6) in a cmd window.
 
8:23 PM
@DeadMG : sbi said my words
 
I have no idea what that does
 
@sbi. I see. but its very similar laptop. keyboard holds only 2 screws (100%) and the front panel.. if you cant remove front panel. its very hard to remove keyboard. probably with knife where ends keyboard. 1) panel if not then 2) knife :/ imageshack.us/photo/my-images/508/qsegt.jpg
 
sbi
@MrAnubis It's not defined by the standard what happens inside. The standard only defines what's observable from the outside. And that's that istream_iterator<T>(std::cin) compares equal to istream_iterator<T>().
 
I thought that the process stdin and stdout pipes could never be closed
 
@DeadMG well, they can :)
 
8:24 PM
aah , @DeadMG : can you please explain your sentence (i would love to learn ) -> process stdin and stdout pipes could never be closed
 
sbi
@DeadMG Encountering EOF is not the same as closing. (It's similar to '\0' in a string. It's usually at the end of the string, but the string can be longer.)
 
Of course stdin can get EOF.
And get closed.
 
well that's dumb
what's the point of sending EOF down a pipe if the pipe is not summarily closed?
 
@sbi : can you also explain your sentence in simple word -> "Encountering EOF is not the same as closing"
 
in one word? That's going to be tricky
is he allowed to define new words?
 
8:27 PM
EOF closes the cin by setting it in error state?
 
@DeadMG : can you please explain your sentence (i would love to learn ) -> process stdin and stdout pipes could never be closed , @sbi : can you also explain your sentence in simple word -> "Encountering EOF is not the same as closing"
 
The song is about partying too hard with coke.
1.Blinded by the light = Pupils dilated
2.Runner = staying up through the night
3.Revved up like a duece = Wired
4. Tripped the merry - go round=Felt so wild
5. Told me I've got what it takes=meaning he's or she's so wild he can do the stuff without dying because it's so strong
6."I'll turn you on..."= Give you something (it's a slang i.e.Turn me on to a joint)
7.,Play the song with the funky break." = Play a song to groove too while they are wired.
 
please teach me
 
no, not really
 
sbi
8:29 PM
@MrAnubis Hold it a minute, I'm fighting with a defect laptop.
@legion Will you marry me? ;-)
 
kk
 
ah, this is a good day
my VS addin works
 
@sbi :D yes my dear
 
seems to work about 40% of the time
 
;D
 
8:30 PM
2 interesting things about this song, it was first hit of live recording, and it's actually by Bruce Springsteen
 
sbi
:1423906 The keyboard removed from a laptop.
 
OH GOD YOU DISEMBOWELLED IT.
 
@sbi. it worked ;)
 
WITH A KNIFE.
 
@DeadMG : can you please explain your sentence nowwww ? -> process stdin and stdout pipes could never be closed
 
8:33 PM
@CatPlusPlus THE HORROR
 
sbi
@legion Yeah. It's pretty wet underneath the keyboard. Now, how do I get at the touchpad?
 
@MrAnubis: The more you ask, the significantly less likely it is that I will take the necessary time
 
@jalf Well, 35 isn't that much cheaper. It's still high-price range. I'll probably buy on Steam just because I'm lazy. Though I'm counting on a sale or something.
All pipes can be closed.
stdin/stdout might be closed if the parent process closed it.
 
@sbi. well. remove the screws you see. probably where is some under the keyboard. (yeah dont foget about removing keyboard wire). amm . well truly speaking all that front case should pull off..
 
8:36 PM
my big plan to do desktop band in C++ failed because even the sample bundled with the SDK does not work in Windows 7. apparently. :-(
 
@CatPlusPlus by parent process you mean some other OS process or itself OS?
@sbi thats you lappy unwelded?
 
@MrAnubis the parent process of X: the process that spawned process X
 
sbi
@MrAnubis My father's actually.
 
Whether OS closes stdin/stdout depends on the OS. I think those are closed by default in Win32 subsystem on Windows.
 
sbi
@legion There really is only one screw. getting it off didn't help at all. :(
 
8:39 PM
Thanks cat and jalf and others
 
@CatPlusPlus hmmmmm, got any info on that, btw? I'll have to figure out some of that stuff for a task at work soon
I assumed that even in win32 subsystem the std pipes were open and worked normally
 
Well, it would make sense if they were closed, because there is no sensible endpoint when not spawned by something else.
 
@sbi. btw did you try now put a screwdrive in the place i shows in picture. you know the place of panels arc.
 
Either way they're pretty useless if you don't redirect them.
Which makes the issue non-issue.
 
sbi
@legion To remove the display? I'm not sure why I would want to. Nothing happened to the display.
 
8:41 PM
@CatPlusPlus but you can't redirect a closed pipe
 
@sbi. not display. that arc is a part of panel.
 
I don't really know how to check if a pipe is open or closed.
 
ah, I just meant that you implied before that they were closed by default for processes linked against win32 subsystem
 
sbi
 
anyway, we've got a (primarily Linux) app which uses stdout/stderr for logging, with the parent processes redirecting the output from their children to appropriate log files. There's some vague bug report that it "doesn't work on Windows", and it's been assigned to me. So I was just hoping you knew all about how the standard pipes behaved on Windows ;)
 
sbi
8:43 PM
I've marked the position of the screw.
@legion Arc? You mean the thing that covers the hinge?
 
@sbi. Yes i think hinge. You know my english is not so good. I just want to say and cant :D
 
> If an application does not have associated standard handles, such as a service running on an interactive desktop, and has not redirected them, the return value is NULL.
From GetStdHandle.
 
> You can make it a union with a constructor too
huh?
a comment to this question
 
@TonyTheTiger C++11 perhaps?
 
@LucDanton how?
 
8:48 PM
'Unrestricted unions' is the name of the new union features.
 
@jalf Though if they have a parent process that redirects the pipes, then it should work. Maybe the access rights are wrong?
 
sbi
@legion Well, I got off those arcs covering the hinges. (Did I mention you are great?) However, I'm at a loss as to how to proceed again. :-{
 
show me how it looks now. because i cant make magic from air :)
and yeah I am sometimes great :D
 
sbi
@legion It looks pretty nasty now, if you ask me. Hold it for a minute, I'm uploading...
 
@TonyTheTiger Although looking at the question further since the types involved are fundamental I believe that's fine for C++03, too.
 
8:50 PM
:)
 
sbi
 
@TonyTheTiger: Looks like your answer got deleted buddy - stackoverflow.com/questions/7353416/what-is-this-patterns-name/…
 
@CodeMonkey I can't see what was delete-able about that answer? Are the mods nuts?
 
@AlfPSteinbach not an answer I think
 
"I think you're looking for type traits." in response to Q "What is this pattern's name?". That's an answer.
 
8:54 PM
Same guy removed my one answer that spawned that oh-noes-nobody-reads-documentation idiot.
 
This SO thing almost turns me off the idea of moderation.
 
sbi
@legion If I really would have to remove the display in order to remove the top panel, I might just leave it open as far as it is now and hope it would dry until tomorrow. The only reason I try to go ahead at all is that my father said that, after he had wiped the keyboard and touchpad dry, and thought he'd gotten away, the touchpad was the first that failed.
 
I think I'm going to do excessive.
 
Let's open up that pitchfork business again.
 
@sbi why are you torturing your laptop?
 
8:55 PM
@sbi. By looking at picture I am quite positive. thet you will have to remove lcd :C
:/
 
this is interesting, the chat flags last a while
I came back and I had 6 flags in queue
 
And that is just the begging
 
sbi
@legion Then I don't think I'm gonna proceed tonight, but rather try to let it dry over night and look again tomorrow night. Thank you very much for your help. (Feel free to ping me if you have a C++ question, I feel obliged to try to help you.)
2 hours ago, by sbi
Anyway, I came home to my father (who is visiting me) looking grave, because he spilled a drink across his laptop, and the laptop stopped working. I have unscrewed about a million screws, but seem to be unable to open the case. <sigh/> The net has videos showing how to open an ASUS laptop, but my google fu failed to find me one for an F7Z. Anyone any idea how to proceed? I suppose I just need to let air get in, so it dries. But short of a crowbar I'm out of ideas.
 
@AlfPSteinbach I think the moderators are just overwhelmed
 
8:59 PM
@sbi my experience indicates backup
 
anyone can flag anything and it goes to the mods.... it should go through the 10K+ filter first
10K+ users can see flagged messages and flag them more, but that's it.
 

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