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> Sorry, retrieving a game from the API failed. Please try again.
 
sbi
@kbok No, it isn't.
 
@kbok Damn you
I had plans for the afternoon.
 
I'm tagged, neato.
 
sbi
4:10 PM
@ÓlafurWaage Do we have an tag now?
 
Meh, I never get the votes right.
 
No, but there used to be a tag, but Mr. Poopypants removed it.
 
"Don't use this tag. Meta SO is SERIOUS BUSINESS." ahaha brilliant
 
I like the Tag synonyms for it
 
4:18 PM
> In my knowledge, there is no call stack in C/C++, so I would not worry about overflowing it.
I'm baffled by the logic here.
 
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Q: Should one avoid using recursive call in C/C++?

d_ijk_straShould one avoid using recursive call of functions in C/C++? I work on machine learning/data mining, so it is very critical for me to make my code scalable. When I was using Java, I avoided using recursive call as much as possible because I often got my call stack overflowed. Although there are...

what a horrendous abuse of the C and C++ TAGS
 
@FredOverflow i recently started to think different about lvalues/rvalues
 
I keep seeing that "C/C++" language.
I wonder what it is.
 
I think that lvalues and rvalues are not expressions themselfs. but that they are the result of analyzing expressions.
 
I know C and C++, but I've never heard of "C/C++"
 
4:22 PM
analyzing a C++ expression would result in a tree of lvalues/rvalues
that tree is what is evaluated at runtime
 
@EtiennedeMartel I'm going to start using: C ∩ C++.
 
@EtiennedeMartel C/C++ is an english tool for denoting C and C++
some use it as troll-starter for shouting "no there is no such language as C/C++"
 
@EtiennedeMartel I've seen correct uses of that term, but it's mostly abused.
 
correct uses do exist, but they're so rare
most of the time, it's flat out wrong
 
Most of the time people use C/C++ as C ∪ C++, not C ∩ C++.
 
4:25 PM
There's a Borderlands 2 coming out.... Dear gaming industry. I would like not to fail all my classes please. Signed, a recovering Borderlands 1 addict.
 
that's nonsense lol
that's like saying "I like swimming/programming." and you would say "There is no such hobby as 'swimming/programming'"
 
well, I'm pretty sure that you cannot both swim and program at the same time
 
Yet....
 
I'm pretty sure too
 
the difference between saying "I like swimming/programming" is that when you ask questions on SO, you must be certain of your language
 
4:26 PM
but why do you state that
 
well, how could anyone possibly know if their answer is acceptable when they don't know the language they're trying to write it in?
 
you are. the language consists of both C++ and C
 
no
 
a project seldomly consists of only one language
 
we're not talking about a project
we're talking about a code sample
 
4:27 PM
often, you have C++, bash, python, whatever involved
 
and sure, one code sample could involve interoperation
but if it doesn't, then it isn't appropriate to tag more than one language
 
a project often also has C involved even if the vast majority of it is C++ code
 
@JohannesSchaublitb Ever seen C++/Python?
 
@MartinhoFernandes i've used both
 
@JohannesSchaublitb We're doing a C++ server and C++ client, with a Java GUI and Tcl scripting frontend (both on top of the client).
 
4:29 PM
neat
 
again, that really doesn't matter, at all
 
So, you're using Java/C++ and Tcl/C++.
 
there is no code in existence that is both C and C++
or rather, not C++ that anyone would answer with
 
@MartinhoFernandes yep
 
@DeadMG "How do I increment an integer?"
 
4:29 PM
@DeadMG it seems we talk about different things
 
it's pretty simple
if you're compiling with a C compiler, it's C
if you're compiling with a C++ compiler, it's C++
if you're compiling with both, then you can't use C++ features anyway, so it's C
 
@DeadMG You can't use all C features either.
It's C ∩ C++.
 
if my c++ program includes <pcre.h> and links to it, then part of the project is C and compiled as C code
 
except that anyone who knows C should be able to quite trivially do that conversion themselves
 
4:31 PM
@DeadMG you can write a C wrapper around a C++ library.
 
@DeadMG fine. my project compiles with both a c and a c++ compiler (there are .c and .cpp files!). then it is both C and C++
 
Hence C ∩ C++.
 
@JohannesSchaublitb no, you moron
code sample
 
nobody gives a crap about a whole project, you ask a question about a specific code sample
 
4:32 PM
i think you are not qualified if you don't know how a project looks like that has both C and C++ source files in it
 
@DeadMG int a;
it's both C and C++
 
@DeadMG i'm not asking such a question
 
@JohannesSchaublitb project project project, meh
@StackedCrooked So what? It's Java, C#, and D too
 
my question is about code that is to be understood in the context of my whole project
 
the fact that you might have some other code that is compiled as some other language is irrelevant
 
4:33 PM
@StackedCrooked That's also Br*inFuck.
 
unless your sample concerns interoperation
 
@DeadMG no it is not
 
@DeadMG but you just said that there is no code in existence that is both C and C++
 
full stop. rethink.
 
well, Windows might be written in asssembly and I call that
should I tag assembler too?
oh, and I connect to this server with HTTP, I guess that I should tag that
and maybe it returns an XML response- let's include that in the bucket
 
4:34 PM
what do you call?
 
even though my code sample and problem are absolutely nothing to do with that functionality#
 
rant mode activated
 
if you have an issue with windows that has to do with assembler, then you tag it assembler. I don't see a problem with that
 
sbi
@JohannesSchaublitb As per that logic people could start asking questions about "Java/C#" and "Ada/PL1", too. (Now that I look at it, that might even make more sense that "C/C++".)
 
@JohannesSchaublitb But it's not to do with assembler at all. Because in that logic, every program would be tagged assembler
 
4:35 PM
@JohannesSchaublitb His problem with that is when your issue has nothing to do with C, or nothing to do with C++, and you tag both.
 
if you have an issue with windows and you don't know whether it has to do with assembler but you suspect it to, you can tag it too
 
if you can't accept answers that involve C++-only code, then you can't tag C++
 
@MartinhoFernandes then it's wrong. but that's not what I dispute
 
unless you're talking about interoperation
 
4:36 PM
Ok, everyone stop arguing on different grounds.
 
@sbi i bet people already did it
 
sbi
@JohannesSchaublitb No, there isn't such a hobby. What's more, it makes no sense to ask "how do I do X when swimming/programming?" What "x" would that be? Error handling? Getting to know girls?
 
I'm off, l8r.
 
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Q: Java / C# SDK Design Problem: Binary compatibility problem in case of modification

user712865Task: I am designing a library which will be used by developers. Objective: I need to make sure that changes in future versions will not impact existing developers. Example: Situation during first release: There is one class public class ClassSample { String methodSample(String para1,Str...

 
"How do I do get to know girls when swimming/programming?" sounds like an interesting question. If I had a disposable sock puppet...
 
sbi
4:36 PM
@ÓlafurWaage If you'Re off later, why do you say this now?
 
top result on google
 
sbi
@JohannesSchaublitb And if they have a problem that relates to those two interacting, I'd be fine with it. But that's not what those "C/C++" questions are about.
 
I think the term "C/C++" comes from the early days were people started using some of the convenient C++ features while still relying on C for many things.
 
that question is more about abstract OOP design and encapsulation rather than any specific language
you could trivially edit the code sample to make it C++
 
@JohannesSchaublitb I don't see what that question has to do with C#.
It's not even tagged C#.
 
4:37 PM
@sbi why do you come to construct that question?
I said a possible sentence is "My hobbies are swimming/programming."
I didn't say that there does anything happen while swimming or programming
 
sbi
@JohannesSchaublitb Then your analogy was actually a fallacy.
 
it wasn't at all. people are angry that other people use the english phrase "C/C++" and I don't see a reason to be angry
 
I'm angry because I'm not interested in questions which are not about C++
 
@JohannesSchaublitb I get "angry" when people misuse it.
 
there is just way too much emotion in that area
 
4:39 PM
and it's a giant waste of my time to see questions highlighted as in my interested areas when actually they're nothing to do with it
 
@sbi there is a comma there :)
 
to the point where people write such stupid things like "[C/C++] C (nein, nicht c++) Exceptions"
 
The term "C/C++" is a button. (Pushing the button ticks some people off.)
 
@DeadMG the question is about both C and C++. Or it is probably about C++.
 
sbi
@JohannesSchaublitb That's because people are asking questions like "how do I x in C/C++" - which is nonsense in 99.95% of all cases.
(Your came up with "swimming/programming" as an analogy, and now you just said that nobody asks questions about that.)
 
4:40 PM
Btw, what does c/c++ evaluate to?
 
@JohannesSchaublitb Most aren't. That's his point.
 
@StackedCrooked Usually, 1.
 
if the guy would know where the problem is (C or C++) he wouldn't have to ask
 
@JohannesSchaublitb No, that's the point. It's almost never actually about C++.
 
4:41 PM
@Stacked But c might be zero.
 
@StackedCrooked Undefined behaviour? You're both reading and writing c with no sequence point.
 
@sbi no it makes sense. Like "Do you like to think of girls when swimming/programming?"
 
sbi
@JohannesSchaublitb Yes, there are questions that are valid in both C and C++. However, 99.95% of all "C/C++" question asked here (and elsewhere) aren't such questions.
 
@JohannesSchaublitb No, that doesn't make sense at all. Programming is a mental activity, swimming is a physical activity. I might well have completely different answers.
 
printing a number in C will yield a different answer than printing a number in C++
so "How do I print a number in C/C++?" is not necessarily a bad question
 
4:42 PM
@JohannesSchaublitb Why?
Because it has two different answers?
 
sbi
@JohannesSchaublitb See, there's even a small number of questions valid for that combination (by which you've just contradicted yourself - again), but the vast majority of questions would be stupid. In "C/C++", we get that majority.
 
@JohannesSchaublitb It's a horrendous question. A question should have a single, conclusive answer. Wanting two answers is not acceptable.
 
sbi
@JohannesSchaublitb No, it's not, because the languages have to different, and only slightly compatible approaches for printing numbers.
 
@DeadMG I disagree
 
@JohannesSchaublitb Then read the FAQ again.
 
4:44 PM
your single answer can answer the question by showing how to do it in both C and C++
 
sbi
@JohannesSchaublitb Everybody would bark at users asking "How do I print a number in "Java/C#?" Why would it be better in "C/C++?"
 
@JohannesSchaublitb Most of the questions that mention C/C++ are not about C ∩ C++, but about C ∪ C++.
 
with "different answer" i mean a different method of solving the problem
 
@JohannesSchaublitb That's asking two separate questions. The fact that they can be answered on the same page is irrelevant.
 
sbi
@DeadMG Indeed.
 
4:46 PM
@sbi it would not be better and not be worse
 
It would be better to have them separate.
Do you dispute that?
 
imo of course. perhaps you think it's worse or better
 
sbi
@JohannesSchaublitb IOW, we should bark at such question, too. What are you arguing for/against then? We already do that.
 
@MartinhoFernandes it will depend on the user.
if the user needs both answers, I think it's better to put it in the same question
 
no
if the user needs multiple answers, he should ask multiple questions
 
4:48 PM
why should the user artificially split up his question into two if he is interested in an answer that answers both the Java and C# way? And possibly compares them in some ways? What is more convenient, more dangerous etc?
 
@JohannesSchaublitb If I need both answers to "How do I print a number in ADA and in PL1" I should use single question?
 
one question : one answer, that's how it goes
if he wants to compare them, that's yet another question
 
@JohannesSchaublitb It all depends on how it is written
 
@MartinhoFernandes yes I think you should use a single question if you have a single problem
 
Normally when the users include both tags, they are doing so to get better views not that they necessarily need an answer in both languages
 
4:48 PM
@JohannesSchaublitb Those are two problems.
 
@JohannesSchaublitb But that's not a single problem. It's two.
 
"How do I read .csv files in C++ and how do I create an MFC window?"
We should extend that logic to this, no?
 
the user should try and split that I think
 
What's so different?
 
if the user cannot split the print question I see no reason to post it as one question
 
4:50 PM
@JohannesSchaublitb He can.
 
it's easy to split a dual-language question
one question, one language
 
sbi
@JohannesSchaublitb "How do I print a number in C/C++?" is not the same question as "How does printing a number compares between C and C++?"
 
It's just "How do I print in X" and "How do I print in Y".
 
perhaps it's a kid that has to prepare homework, comparing the ways things can be printed between Java and C#
 
@MartinhoFernandes It boils down to being a pedant or being helpful. (I prefer being the latter.)
 
4:52 PM
-13
Q: Forcing Acceptance

0A0D Possible Duplicates: Would it be possible to have a “community accepted” feature? Moderators accepting answers on user's behalf after a certain time period I am asking this question because it seems to work on MSDN. Are users in favor of having community moderators '...

 
@sbi well I will rephrase "How do I print a number in C/C++ and how do the two ways compare against each other?"
 
I'm wondering why this question was 14 times worse than questions with -1
 
@JohannesSchaublitb You've got an "and" in there. It's two questions.
 
@JohannesSchaublitb But now you're arguing something else.
 
what is the question that started this debate?
 
4:53 PM
@Xaade On meta, downvotes mean "I disagree".
 
It means that there are 14 more people in disagreement than people in agreement.
 
@Xaade i just downvoted it
 
yeah, meta has a different system for voting, and it's not about "bad" versus "good", it's "I disagree" versus "I agree"
 
@MartinhoFernandes Then on meta they seriously need a neg rep cap.
 
4:53 PM
who cares about meta rep? :D
 
meta.programmers.SE xD
 
@Xaade You're free to suggest that (if it hasn't been already).
 
I don't post many questions, so I only have 200 rep, if I get neg bombed on a few questions, I can no longer commet.
 
I don't really give a damn.
 
wait that looked like meta.programmers.sex xD
 
4:55 PM
meta sex?
Isn't that sexting?
 
What kind of abilities do you think a superhero named "Metaman" should have?
 
@StackedCrooked Know the current population of earth at all times.
 
Being a stem cell?
@Xaade ok, not very interesting, but somewhat meta
 
@StackedCrooked Altering his DNA to create powers.
 
@Xaade that would be cool
 
4:57 PM
he should have a large pipe capacity
 
@Xaade What's "neg bombed"?
 
the ability to be any particular person
 
meta outside metadata context, simply means "beyond", so (metaman == superhero)
 
Being bombed by the "New Earth Government".
 
Metaman sounds to much like Mega Man, so all I can think about is going to play them on my NES.
 
4:57 PM
lol
 
@KerrekSB Having a large sum of neg votes simply being there because the rest are.
Bandwagon neg voting.
 
@Xaade Oh, we talked about that the other day.
 
I coined the term neg-bomb for that.
 
@JohannesSchaublitb what is pipe capacity?
 
@StackedCrooked how much you can smoke at one time.
 
4:59 PM
His pipe should have a large radius?
Is this a gay joke?
Lol
 
depends on if the pipe is a hole or a stick.
 
Metaman should have the ability to manipulate meat and misspell his name everytime.
2
 
Metaman would be the first superhero ever....
And if there's a time machine and a super goes back in time, metaman is born earlier.
 
Concept-man would be cool as well.
 
Concept-man can be dropped from the standard, is that his superpower?
 
5:02 PM
UML-man
 
@JohannesSchaublitb Heresy! The C++ standard says that lvalues and rvalues are expressions, doesn't it?
 
lol @StackedCrooked
 
Superman :)
in java
@MartinhoFernandes lol
 
@StackedCrooked Thisman.
 
@JohannesSchaublitb Isn't programming in C++ somehow like swimming... in a sea of templates? :-)
 
5:04 PM
singleton-man
 
UML man, Abilities like seeing through walls, knowing what everything is made of, creating complex labyrinths, encapsulating his foes in endless code-review meetings, modifying realities design requirements so he essentially makes problems not exist, misconstrue test cases, so his villains plots fail.
 
@Xaade Looks OP.
 
@FredOverflow it seems to me that it says that lvalue/rvalue is a property of an expression
 
I'm gonna go skinny dipping. See ya.
 
UML man is OP. When Green Lantern uses his willpower to make UML weak, UML redesigns GL's powers so they only work when Green Lantern is dead.
PARADOX!
 
5:06 PM
@JohannesSchaublitb If each expression is either an lvalue or an rvalue, sure, you could say that being an lvalue or an rvalue is a property of an expression.
 
and it sometimes uses "lvalue" as a short-hand for "lvalue expression". I think that this can be interpreted as meaning that the expression-dependence tree (i.e "add -> { lhs, rhs }") that results from analyzing the expression is either an lvalue (in which case the expression is called an lvalue) or an rvalue (in which case the expression is called an rvalue).
 
good evening :)
 
so that I can see how it makes sense to say "the result of calling a function whose return type is an lvalue reference is an lvalue". because it refers to the result of analyzing the expression.
 
sbi
@JohannesSchaublitb Every time we explain why some of your arguments are bad, you shift goalposts. That question, for all the problems it still has (it's two, actually), is a mile away from what you said originally. Either we discuss your original idea first, or you admit that this wasn't as thought out as it should have been (i.e., you were wrong), or I'll stop to further discuss this with you.
 
rvalue-man. With the ability to ____ .
 
5:08 PM
lol @sbi
@sbi i thought we gave up on an agreement
 
lulz
 
@Xaade Meta is murder, neg bombing is normal
 
sbi
@JohannesSchaublitb Neither suggested I doing so nor have I noticed a message from you to me. (I was elsewhere temporarily, so I might have missed something unaddressed flicking by.)
 
Als
hmm..Full house
 
@sbi makes no noise because sbi has turned off my pling
 
sbi
5:10 PM
@Als Yeah, 28 users here. And it's been like this yesterday, too. If this trend keeps going on, we'll be crowded out of our own room.
 
@sbi im sorry. we can return to our previous topic if you like
tho I can discuss with @FredOverflow in parallel
 
There's a room limit?
 
it's more fun
 
sbi
@Xaade A practical.
 
bandwidth limit?
 
5:11 PM
having parallel chat conversation is like multiplexing two data streams
 
Als
I noticed since so many users a number of parallel conversations keep ongoing then
 
Or concurrent conversation limit.
That's it, you have to prepend your conversations with GUID. That way I know which statement belongs to which convo.
 
sbi
@JohannesSchaublitb You were saying that "How can I do X in C/C++?" is a valid question, to which I replied that there's very few valid ones, and many nonsense ones. Then you came up with "How do I print a number in C/C++?", to which I replied, that, since this is done very differently in both questions, this is a good example for a bad "C/C++" question.
@Xaade Yes. Brain bandwidth.
 
It would be nice if chat could somehow visually differentiate parallel conversations
 
@sbi im sorry. let me clarify
it may be a valid part of an otherwise valid question
 
Als
5:13 PM
@StackedCrooked: Excellent suggestion. I find doing the @ everytime as an overhead
 
sbi
@Als Was that meant as a reply to @Xaade?
 
@sbi there may be better examples than my number printing ones
 
The mouse hover changing background color is a helpful start.
 
@Als 50c055f0-d8a5-480a-ae3a-1714c7144e1c Would @ be better than a GUID?
 
@sbi one can say "I'm programming in C++. What is the C/C++ way to print a number?". which to me indicates that the user wants to know a way to print a number in C++ in a way that is compatible to a c compiler
 
Als
5:15 PM
1 min ago, by StackedCrooked
It would be nice if chat could somehow visually differentiate parallel conversations
 
sbi
@JohannesSchaublitb Which I never denied. But I said those are 0.05%. They are rarely ever asked. What's mostly asked is these "print a number" questions, and these are answered differently for C or C++.
@JohannesSchaublitb But that's your interpretation. I wouldn't have thought that at all. And maybe the OP wouldn't have either.
 
@sbi ae59bf28-88ea-4eae-9995-ccaa2ad5e1e4 I think your question discussion is losing purpose.
 
I only know that most of the time, when there is a phrase "C/C++" it looks valid to me and I don't understand the rage it causes always again
 
Als
@Xaade: @ is succinct than GUID
 
"How struct padding works in C/C++" thats valid IMO
 
5:16 PM
Yeah, guids don't work well.
 
@JohannesSchaublitb I usually say "the function call ... is an lvalue".
 
sbi
@Als You do know how referencing works here, right? And you do know that you can fix your old messages for 2mins?
 
And what guid would I use to troll with.
 
@JohannesSchaublitb That's going to be just a C answer. C++ code written to be compatible with C is C code.
 
Woa, I might have started something.
 
5:17 PM
@FredOverflow hmm I usually say so too. perhaps I'm overthinking this and it's more easy
 
@DeadMG Not if it's separate DLLS with a C interface.
 
@DeadMG i don't think so
C++ code compatible to C stays C++ code
 
@sbi The fact that C/C++ is undefined behavior should be warning enough to refrain from it ;-)
 
but it is "C++ code written in the C-way", IMO
 
sbi
@JohannesSchaublitb Yeah, with the attitude of coming up with that "print-a-number" question as a sensible "C/C++" question I'm not surprised you don't understand people's hatred of the common stupidity. Not to offend you, but to me it seems you simply hadn't put much thought into this.
 
5:18 PM
@FredOverflow can you elaborate? What do you mean?
 
Als
@sbi: Oh sorry got caught in answering a Q on SO
 
it's both C++ and C.
 
Is a++ == b++ also undefined behavior?
 
@StackedCrooked yes
 
sbi
@hexa C = C/C++ invokes UB. See Prasoon's FAQ re sequence points.
 
5:19 PM
@JohannesSchaublitb Can you use C++-specific code? No? It's C.
 
a++ = b++ is ill-formed. it doesn't compile
 
@sbi Just use the euphemism politician, to refer to an idiot. So stupidity would be "political correctness"
 
@JohannesSchaublitb ==
 
@Xaade That's interoperation, not compatibility
 
oh
thats not UB...
but ++a = b; is UB in C++03 and fine in C++0x
 
5:20 PM
well, now that I think about it, it will follow order of operations
 
(provided that both a and b refer to different obects)
 
@sbi It's already UB without the assignment.
 
@sbi do you have an URL to that FAQ?
 
sbi
@JohannesSchaublitb As I said, there are valid questions that have both a and a tag. (I just answered one the other day.) They are, however rare. Most of them are wrongly tagged both, and there's many of them, and that's what gets people worked up.
@hexa It's on this list.
 
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Q: Undefined Behavior and Sequence Points

Prasoon SauravWhat are "Sequence Points"? What is the relation between Undefined Behaviour and Sequence Points? I often use funny and convoluted expressions like a[++i] = i;, to make myself feel better. Why should I stop using them? If you've read this, be sure to visit the follow-up question Undefined Beha...

 
thanks all :P
 
sbi
@FredOverflow Yeah, I know, but I thought embedding it into a C++ statement that can't be taken for the name of a (non-existing) language conglomerate makes it easier to understand what you were getting at.
 
sbi
I'm still not sure, @Fred, that std::rand() question is a good candidate for an FAQ entry.
 
oh I just made the biggest confusion... fred made a joke
 
5:24 PM
I feel like I need to drink coffee. Sadly, I don't drink coffee :-(
 
I was wondering why the audio sounded so funky
then I listened a little closer and it's in German
 
It's also a parody :-)
 
sbi
@hexa I think for some of the regulars here (with @Fred a prominent member), it's far safer to first assume they're making a really odd and geeky joke, or they are trying to wind you up, or they are mockingly nitpicking, and only then to have a short look at evaluating their statements in a, hypothetical, serious context.
 
But the joke is based on truth!
 
sbi
@FredOverflow As any good joke is.
 
5:27 PM
:)
 
class good_joke : protected truth {};
 
#define truth lies
 
sbi
@FredOverflow This might be one of the few cases where protected inheritance seems the best fit.
 
Hm, protected truth... seems more like something a superhero would be concerned with!
 
The TruthMan?
 
5:30 PM
no
 
Als
@CatPlusPlus: The Truth Cat!
 
My favorite superhero is Everyman:
 
Als
who the hell is EveryMan?
 
Als
I know of He-Man, Spiderman, Superman, but wooh Everyman?
 
5:32 PM
Milhouse?
 
Als
Is this turning out to a Youtube promotional front now?
 
Is anyone well-acquainted with the Windows API and might have an opinion on my question? :-)
 
Shameless pluggin'
 
@KerrekSB You could detour CreateFile to disable buffering altogether.
 
@CatPlusPlus That'd be great. I was thinking something like that. Is it possible?
(Or based on the filename?)
 
@KerrekSB Look into Detours.
You write the wrapper, you can react to filename or just blindly set FILE_FLAG_NO_BUFFERING for everything.
 
5:41 PM
I used to write my own DLL injector, maybe I can recycle that one (though it only redirected Direct3D functions). I'll check out Detours.
 
It shouldn't be more than fewish lines of code with Detours.
 
That'd be great.
 
Well, unless you want to do fancy stuff in the wrapper. :P
 
Well, catching the crash and flushing was my initial idea, but if the unbuffered write already gets me the same result, then there's no need.
 
Getting file handles is an option, too, but I don't remember how ATM.
 
5:50 PM
That would be nice, too: A separate process that captures the game's file handle, responds to the crash and flushes the handle. But that sounds pretty tricky
 
You could inject crash handler into the game process.
 
Is that possible? That'd be a good thing to have, too.
 
CreateRemoteThread that calls SetUnhandledExceptionFilter/AddVectoredExceptionHandler should do.
 
Ok, now I'm going to write some code, and this is the closest I've ever been to swimming/programming.
 
Swimming?
 
5:57 PM
I went for a swim in the past hour.
 

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