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2:01 PM
"I once wrote a python script that did this"
 
Did what?
 
Got drunk.
 
int main()
{
char x = 'H';
char *px1 = &x;
char **px2 = &px1;
char ***px3 = &px2;
char ****px4 = &px3;
char *****px5 = &px4;
char ******px6 = &px5;
char *******px7 = &px6;
char ********px8 = &px7;
char *********px9 = &px8;
char **********px10 = &px9;
char ***********px11 = &px10;
char ************px12 = &px11;
char *************px13 = &px12;
char **************px14 = &px13;
char ***************px15 = &px14;
char ****************px16 = &px15;
char *****************px17 = &px16;
char ******************px18 = &px17;
 
2:03 PM
@0A0D what's the point of this?
 
@TonyTheTiger To print H ideone.com/BnGWH
 
@0A0D Oh hell no.
 
@TonyTheTiger There's no point. Only stars.
 
The stars are going out.
 
@CatPlusPlus lol
 
2:04 PM
Meh, if it were me, I'd name the variables px, ppx, pppx, ...
 
how much indirection can there be?
 
Too much.
 
STAR... ALL THE THINGS!
 
A nineteen star programmer
 
@Collecter Infinite pain
 
2:05 PM
@MartinhoFernandes Whats up with the new avatar?
 
I did not scroll, a lot more than 19
 
@hexa Yeah, it looks like a jar of jam from afar.
 
@MartinhoFernandes _, __, ___.
 
@CatPlusPlus Not allowed.
 
@MartinhoFernandes Who cares.
 
2:06 PM
@hexa It's a "Complete Fool" badge.
 
@CatPlusPlus The compiler does.
 
@MartinhoFernandes I don't get it
 
@EtiennedeMartel Not really, no.
Reserved identifiers don't break compilation, unless they're actually used by implementation.
 
@CatPlusPlus Yes it does. You sadden the compiler when you write ugly code. And who wants a sad compiler?
 
2:06 PM
@EtiennedeMartel Evil people.
Muahahaha.
 
@CatPlusPlus Unforgivable.
 
I didn't know compilers could emote?
*this
 
@TonyTheTiger The man who whispers to compilers would make a great movie.
 
@EtiennedeMartel The Compiler whisperer - could be a horror movie or romance alike
lol
 
"What is your favorite internet password?" - Nice try
 
2:09 PM
@0A0D where did that come from?
 
@0A0D hunter2
 
I will hunter2 you then hunter2 you dog
 
 
*******
 
2:11 PM
@TheDailyWTF
from 07/29
 
The WTF about the Virii, I thought he had deleted his boss' image collection or something the way the story was going. I had to read it twice
 
kittens are not overrated!
 
@TonyTheTiger CatPlusPlus!
 
lol
The Internet = Kittens + Pr0n
that sums it up I guess
 
2:14 PM
Pr0n = kittens--;
 
hahah
 
Kittens? In my C++ chatroom?
Madness.
 
where's old man sbi?
 
Tanzania
 
@0A0D Yeah, we need a grumpy dude in there ASAP.
 
sbi
2:19 PM
@0A0D At work. (Did you think you would get away with talking about me just because you omitted the @?)
 
Oh snap, sbi sees everything
 
@sbi Admit it, you’re at the pub!
 
sbi
@EtiennedeMartel So it's yours now??
 
@KonradRudolph Isn't that the same thing?
 
I awoke the beast
 
2:19 PM
@sbi Yes.
 
sbi
@KonradRudolph Don't be silly. If I'd be at the pub, I'd sit beside you.
 
@EtiennedeMartel possibly.
 
sbi
@hexa Actually, we bonobos only live in the DR Congo. It's one of their problems.
@EtiennedeMartel Don't be silly. You're not even on the owner list, let alone the only one on it.
 
@sbi Oh lol, so it's a bonobos!
 
@sbi I know, but I think if I claim otherwise enough times, then reality will shift.
 
2:22 PM
@hexa yea I learnt that again yesterday
 
sbi
@hexa That avatar? No, that isn't a bonobo.
Jul 24 at 10:12, by sbi
@Raynos That gorilla avatar is just a disguise. Actually I'm a bonobo.
 
"I had an unexplained, traumatic experience with the unary negation operator in the past so I avoid using it now"
Jesus, somebody get these programmers a shrink
 
@sbi You bookmarked that one?
 
sbi
@EtiennedeMartel You wish.
 
he's a hidden bonobo
 
2:23 PM
Now I am confused
 
sbi
@MartinhoFernandes No. Should I?
 
@0A0D Linky?
 
bonobox lives in Ireland, yes?
 
@hexa about what?
 
@TonyTheTiger Everything
 
2:23 PM
@sbi You seem to need it a lot. Bookmarking would help.
 
sbi
@hexa You can omit the "now". We all know anyway.
 
0
A: Elegant way to negate a numeric value based on a boolean value

0A0DUse the decimal unary negation operator (as you are sort of already doing): using System; class Program { static void Main() { bool negate = true; decimal test = 500M; Console.WriteLine(negate == true ? -test : test); } } Output: -500 Frankly, this is mu...

 
The bonobo ( ), Pan paniscus, previously called the pygmy chimpanzee and less often, the dwarf or gracile chimpanzee, is a great ape and one of the two species making up the genus Pan. The other species in genus Pan is Pan troglodytes, or the common chimpanzee. Although the name "chimpanzee" is sometimes used to refer to both species together, it is usually understood as referring to the common chimpanzee, while Pan paniscus is usually referred to as the bonobo. One source reports a lifespan of 40 years in captivity. There are no data about longevity in wild-living bonobos or on gender ...
 
Lookup Bonobo sex on youtube, they fuck everything.
 
@ÓlafurWaage Sex again?
 
2:24 PM
/me hides
 
I don't know where @sbi found this species of primate, cause I had never heard of it, but there it is
 
Even the baby monkies
@EtiennedeMartel sex always.
 
@ÓlafurWaage There is pr0n of it! No exceptions!
 
sbi
@MartinhoFernandes Actually, I just click on my avatar, then on the link to my chat profile, enter bonobo into the search box, hit enter, and have my quote handy. A bookmark could hardly be much faster to reach.
 
@TonyTheTiger yes.
 
2:25 PM
@ÓlafurWaage :)
and now back to kittens
 
 
sbi
@TonyTheTiger It's one of the two species which are closest to us. It's really hard to live through this world for longer than 15 years and not to hear of bonobos. And then they are so famous for their incredible sex drive that it is even harder to live through the next 10 years and still not hear about them.
2
 
@TonyTheTiger see how fast I was there?
 
@sbi you know me, I'm a loner
@hexa yea, nice kitten :)
 
That's a kitten?
 
2:27 PM
@MartinhoFernandes with a big face
 
sbi
@hexa It's actually quite simple. My avatar is a gorilla. But that was just a disguise, as actually I'm a bonobo. What's your problem with that?
 
No problem at all, don't eat me please
 
@sbi It's not really a disguise if you keep telling that to everyone.
 
sbi
@TonyTheTiger What does that have to do with anything? You watch TV? Read a paper once in a while? Talk to other people?
 
@sbi Why would I do any of those three?
 
2:28 PM
@sbi Had to say something? Your argument was pretty tight, but just admitting I'm a dofus is too much for me
 
sbi
@EtiennedeMartel It used to be a disguise. But once I said it on the web, of course my cover is blown once and for all.
 
@DeadMG you don't talk to other people? you're in here...
@EtiennedeMartel It's a wide well known secret
 
sbi
@DeadMG Who was talking to you, puppy? Of course you never watch TV, read papers, and talk to people. You just pee at trees, lick your hind, and bark at strangers. And we're not surprised, that's what dogs do, after all.
 
woof
 
2:31 PM
grrrrrowl
 
I wanna be an animal too, but a real animal... like a dragon!
 
forgot tigers don't bark
 
@sbi You forgot chasing butterflies, normal flies, wasps, birds, cats, etc
 
sbi
@hexa While those exist in anime, they are not animals. Confusing, I know, but you will grow and learn.
 
2:32 PM
@sbi no way!
 
What, dragons don't exist?
 
sorry to ruin it for you :(
 
sbi
@TonyTheTiger A tiger baby! Not yours, I assume?
 
The manliest mean of transportation: riding a dragon made with bacon.
 
@sbi I wish
 
@EtiennedeMartel no narwhal with bacon saddle
 
@MartinhoFernandes that's a Comodo Dragon
 
komodo dragons are analogue to java in the dragon world, a joke
 
@hexa Ha.
 
2:34 PM
lol
wow over 3K message have been starred in this room
 
over 5k
 
narwhal bacons at midnight
 
why does it say show all 3360 then?
 
It shows as 5.8k to me
 
huh? really?
 
it shows 3, 360
ah 5.8k
 
1
A: Uninitialized read problem

DeadMGEdit: Your stack trace is very, very strange- inside the USER32.dll? That's part of Windows. What I might suggest is that you're linking the multi-byte Direct3D against the Unicode D3D libraries, or something like that. You shouldn't be able to cause Windows functions to trigger an error.

well, this is an interesting problem
 
oh damn
 
@DeadMG this guy...
I don't know wtf he is doing but I have been helping him for two days
 
> You shouldn't be able to cause Windows functions to trigger an error.
 
sbi
2:37 PM
@0A0D Wow. I hit the chat in October, even, not December as I assumed.
 
Nice joke.
 
no, the joke would be if I'd said "You can't"
 
@sbi it's that old age, getting rusty ;)
 
"You shouldn't" is perfectly accurate
 
@DeadMG Keep in mind he is using an analyzer, so the results are suspect
I told Etienne that yesterday
the analyzer/validator could be inducing errors
 
2:39 PM
I read into the question that he employed the validator because he had problems
but the analyzer could well be not set up to cope with kernel calls properly
 
How do people come up with these questions? stackoverflow.com/q/6913813/46642
 
@DeadMG It's like he is running his code through the tool and asking us to explain the anomalies
@MartinhoFernandes Page not found
 
What use can that have?
 
sbi
@TonyTheTiger Bonobos are know (very well-known, actually) as the non-violent siblings of chimps. Their society is matriarchal, and they generally solve conflicts mainly by making love to each other - and they really don't heed to our conventions about gender and age when doing so. So, yes, from a human POV most of their life is porn, some of it child porn, even.
If you look at chimp societies, in their interaction you mainly find what we don't like about our own species. Lots of violence, greed, and right of the strongest. Looking at bonobos makes you hope for humanity, because their interactions are so much friendlier. Also, they make even the worst human sex maniac look like an old spinster.
 
@0A0D It was a deleted question about a guy asking how to crash a C# program
 
2:40 PM
@0A0D Sorry, it's been deleted. You need ten thousand arbitrary points.
 
@MartinhoFernandes LOL, I'm almost there
 
@sbi So, should we take that to mean you're a sex maniac pedophile?
 
Hi all
 
sbi
@MartinhoFernandes Well, I do have more kids than many of you have had girlfriends... Draw your own conclusions.
 
2:43 PM
@MartinhoFernandes Are u aware of any opensource groups looking for programmers to voluntarily contribute for their projects ?
 
Rob
I don't know how we got back to bonobos
 
@Mahesh All of them.
Isn't that the point?
 
sbi
@Rob Actually we didn't. We fast-forwarded to them. :)
 
Is it time to step away from optimizing my code when I start seeing a difference of 20ns as "unacceptably slow"?
 
Rob
But we discussed them in biology this semester... they use sex to resolve conflict.
 
2:44 PM
@sbi How many kids do you have ?
 
@MartinhoFernandes - Yes, but will they accept my invitation is the point.
 
@jalf You shouldn't even be measuring at that scale. Keep the temptation away.
 
Rob
Oops, skipped over that bit in @sbi's post.
 
@Mahesh You don't need to be part of a "team" to contribute code.
 
sbi
@jalf That depends on what you do. If your software controls the valves of an NPP or - much worse! - a system for placing bids in stock markets, it might be too slow.
 
2:45 PM
@MartinhoFernandes I'd say you can't be a part of the "team", unless you already contributed a bit.
 
@MartinhoFernandes - Ok ... guide lines plz .. any group looking for contributions ... sites, etc.,
 
Just grab the code, make changes, publish them.
 
it's for my transactional memory lib
 
sbi
@kbok Many. (Didn't I just say that?)
 
ah well, 150 nanoseconds for a no-op transaction will have to do for now. Don't want to get hung up on that forever
 
Rob
2:46 PM
@sbi, I found it interesting that they kiss with the tonque / perform oral sex. I thought that was exclusive to humans.
 
Most projects accept patches, many projects accept pull requests.
 
@sbi woah, you know quite a lot about them :)
 
@TonyTheTiger Makes sense, since he claims to be one. It's part of the cover.
 
You can always ask on their forums/IRC/mailing lists.
 
sbi
@Rob Sounds like a good place to learn where they teach about these in biology.
 
2:47 PM
@CatPlusPlus - Any site plz ... I wish to contribute to a opensource proj
 
sourceforge
 
@Mahesh how about implementing lambdas in Clang? :)
 
sbi
@Mahesh My favorite one that lies bare: templog.org. Have fun!
 
Well, what can I say, Goblin Camp.
 
2:47 PM
@sbi Well, I was being curious about you having a sheer number of kids or SOers having had a really small amount of girlfriends.
 
@jalf - I am just a beginner and you are giving me something very very big
 
@Mahesh Inkscape needs a rewrite of the "connector tool". I need it for september, so plz send me teh codez
 
@Mahesh it would be useful though. ;)
 
Find a project that you use, and see how it can be improved.
Or just go to their issue tracker and pick a ticket.
 
sbi
@Rob Many sex practices conservatives claim to be "unnatural" are actually widely distributed in the animal kingdom.
 
2:49 PM
Why are we talking about animal sex, again?
 
sbi
@TonyTheTiger As I said, learning about them makes you look at humanity with so much more hope than just looking at the rest of human relatives.
 
@kbok - Where can I get the specs of it ? Or the requirements to be met for the "connector tool" ?
 
sbi
@kbok Well, I don't have dozens of kids (I'm not a monkey, you know!), so it's probably more a combination of the two. :)
 
@sbi Oh, so you're not really a bonobo.
I'm confused now.
 
@kbok He's trying to clean up the mess he made when he blew his cover. It's working.
 
sbi
2:52 PM
@kbok Here we go again: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monkey vs en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ape. Please get that into your head. (tl;dr: Apes are our closest relatives, chimps, bonobos, gorillas, orangutans, and gibbons. The rest are monkeys.)
 
@Mahesh There's no real specs, but you can find a great amount of docs on the wiki. The problem with Connector is that it's quite limited, unintuitive and very buggy.
Bug list here : tinyurl.com/6e7lmyn
The guys from inkscape are talking about removing it, but it's still quite popular so they are looking for someone to clean that mess up.
 
@kbok - Thank you for suggesting the link. I will contact their mailing lists and see if I get a chance to contribute their proj.
 
@sbi surely
 
sbi
@Konrad: Work has somewhat lost its appeal after 30mins of wasting time in the chat. You still at the pub? Because I'm considering joining you.
 
@sbi Oh, I didn't knew that.
 
2:57 PM
@kbok It's so colourful.
 
Oof, I think I must've had a bit of a sleep deficit to catch up on. Been awake for 6 hours now, and could use a nap soon...
 
sbi
@kbok You should read Pratchett. There's many things you can learn from the grand old master, this among them.
3
 
@sbi I don't know about kbok's native language, but mine doesn't make that distinction.
Everything is a "macaco".
 
@jalf Same.
 
sbi
@MartinhoFernandes Neither does mine.
@jalf That's nothing. I could have gone back to sleep after being awake for 6 minutes!
 
2:59 PM
and that's after sleeping for 11 hours, of course
 
@MartinhoFernandes there are some "micos" too :P
 
@hexa What?
Never heard that word.
 
Oh really?
 
I think I've slept 7 today.
 
It's probably one of those fancy Brazilian things.
 
3:00 PM
And 2 half-awake, when I was trying to get up from bed.
 
@sbi That's a good idea, I need to read more english literature.
 
sbi
The macaques ( or ) constitute a genus (Macaca ) of Old World monkeys of the subfamily Cercopithecinae. Description Aside from humans (genus Homo), the macaques are the most widespread primate genus, ranging from Japan to Afghanistan and, in the case of the barbary macaque, to North Africa. Twenty-two macaque species are currently recognised, and they include some of the monkeys best known to non-zoologists, such as the rhesus macaque, Macaca mulatta, and the barbary macaque, M. sylvanus, a colony of which lives on the Rock of Gibraltar. Although several species lack tails, and the...
 
learning all the time, I am :)
 
Poor @Tony.
 
@MartinhoFernandes Good thing, no?
 
3:02 PM
Ugh, Django admin bypasses model's save when creating object. Do not like.
 
apes and monkeys are way different. Apes organize, monkeys are like tree cats.
 
tree cats huh?!!! interesting description
 
As opposed to cats on trees?
 
@TonyTheTiger I was looking for something with similar behavior restrictions.... monkeys behave like cats in their intellect.
 
sbi
@kbok Pratchett is a good one to start with now. He is a lot of fun to read, and if you like him, you will have more than three dozen books to catch up. If I started on him now, I wouldn't have to decide what to read next for more than a year. I envy you!
 
3:04 PM
If you think the whole using tool thing is special to monkeys, dogs use tools too.
Namely fireworks.... to hunt humans with.
 
Lol.
I saw that.
 
@sbi As much as I like Pratchett, I couldn't spend a whole year reading nothing else! I like variety.
 
does this not sound like a scam: jobsite.co.uk/job/… ?
 
@Xaade Dogs hunt humans with fireworks ?
 
@kbok google image search or youtube firework dog.
 
sbi
3:07 PM
@Xaade Actually, that's too simplistic. I think all monkeys have comparatively complex social systems, and many of them rarely ever climb on trees. (Think baboons.)
 
@TonyTheTiger It does
 
@sbi Um.... cats = tigers, lions, etc.
 
sbi
@Xaade Most cats are solitary. Lions are a noteworthy exception.
 
@Xaade - And some times they are equivalent to Mac OS :)
 
I saw a lion pack hunt once in South Africa
 
3:09 PM
@Mahesh XOS == cat?
 
quite interesting to watch
 
Not really.
 
sbi
@MartinhoFernandes Who said I would read nothing else? :) I'm currently reading three books. One (about raising kids) I carry around when commuting, one (a novel) I read when I'm relaxing at home, and one (an essay about animal origins of human morale) I have on my bedside table. On top of that I read a computer magazine and daily check on the website of a German news magazine. These are different enough to not to confuse me.
 
3:12 PM
Is there any access control to %LOCALAPPDATA%, or can I nilly-willy write stuff into it?
 
@MartinhoFernandes I don't have youtube access at work, unfortunately.
 
@FredOverflow I think that's a user-specific folder.
So, just write on it.
 
@FredOverflow You can write to it.
 
Just don't bust some other application's data.
 
sbi
Wow, I just noted that @GeorgeEdison was here yesterday! That's a rare visit, and I missed it. I hadn't seen him here in months. (For you young folks: George was on the list of owners when I first entered this room, and I think he was one of its founders.)
 
3:16 PM
Wow! Would be on the same order of RogerPate coming in here again.
 
sbi
@kbok Can you watch this? I think it's the same.
@TonyTheTiger For one, Roger quit SO altogether. But also, I believe he is here once in a while, but not under his real name. (At the very least he used to read the starred messages.)
 
You can read stuff without even logging in.
 
I did see RogerPate here once
 
sbi
@DeadMG You mean under his real name? And within the last six months?
 
yes
 
3:25 PM
Hmm, search doesn't think so.
Wait, chat search doesn't work like that.
> last seen 261d ago
 
sbi
@DeadMG That's not Roger. I'm sure of that.
 
wet puppy
 
@sbi No luck.
 
sbi
@kbok Darn. Anything here?
 
3:35 PM
@sbi Everything is blocked
 
sbi
@kbok That's so silly.
 
We have a very strict policy of only allowing the SO chat to slack off.
 
No
Anyway, any UK students out there ? @DeadMG, are you online ?
 
yes
 
3:39 PM
What is this 2:1, 2:2 and shit stuff ?
 
they're just grades
 
Just had a phone call from an employer and he asked me about that
 
2:1 60%, 2:2 50%
First 70%, Third 40%
 
Ok, so in order : first-grade, 2:1, 2:2 ?
 
no "grade", it's just called a First
 
3:41 PM
ok
and these values are the median of all your exams' grades ?
or just the "completion level"
 
@kbok Average != median.
I think you meant average.
 
usually just a mean grade
but that would be more specific to each university
 
@MartinhoFernandes Yep, sorry
 
sbi
@kbok It's called "division" and I learned about it in, I think, first grade. Maybe second. I must have been seven years old then.
 
@kbok Just boasting about my new statistics skills :)
 
3:44 PM
@DeadMG ok, so they kinda do it the way they want ?
 
well, a university can award you whatever grade it wants for whatever reason it wants
within moderation and regulation, of course
most universities will just do a mean grade
 
ok
 
woo! Just got a call for a potential job :)
 
@TonyTheTiger Did he asked you about obscure grade stuff ? :)
 
@TonyTheTiger good news!
 
Als
3:47 PM
Hola!
@TonyTheTiger: I sense a partay!
 
Gotta go, thx for the info @dead
 
Als
Hmm...
 
@kbok no it was a voice message
haven't spoken yet to the guy
@0A0D it's nice to get called, cause that means there was interest in me from their side
 
wow, if I flag a comment as not constructive / off-topic, it is deleted
from my view anyways
@TonyTheTiger Yep, good luck!
 
3:58 PM
@DeadMG is that your dog?
and your family?
@0A0D Thanks :)
you don't have family?
 
Als
@TonyTheTiger: Don't eat me on that tiger!
 

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