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11:00 AM
Note that IMO, exceptions are already an encapsulation of the useful features of non local goto.
 
My knee hurts.
2
 
sbi
Wow. Stars are thrown around here today as if this was the heart of the galaxy.
 
Or Hollywood, amirite.
 
sbi
Anyway, my mother, who's coming visiting us, just called me saying that she has take the wrong exit off the highway, but doesn't know which one, then, realizing her error, took a few random turns hoping this would work out, but forgot which ones, and no is stranded in some backwater street she doesn't know the name of. And was totally annoyed that I said I can't direct here unless she either provides the way she's taken or the place she is at now.
"But you're so much better at this stuff than I am!" Is it really so absurd to assume that others need to provide the information needed in order to help them?? In situations like this I feel like I'm way too geeky already to be fit for common human consumption.
 
lol. Reminds me of "I downloaded a file, where is it?"
 
sbi
11:11 AM
@GMan Yep. "The PC showed some error message and I clicked Ok, and now it stopped working. What do you mean 'what the error message says'?"
 
Haha.
 
@sbi Isn't that Chris's approach?
 
@sbi I have the same impression with some questions on SO.
 
sbi
@GMan My usual answer to "there was an error message, but I don't know what it said" help request is "it will have explained what went wrong". But you can't do that to your mother who's stranded in the outskirts of a (for her) terrifying city.
 
@AProgrammer Even worse is when they show you "simplified example code" that works, and want to find out why their completely-different-code-that-they-won't-show, doesn't work.
 
sbi
11:18 AM
I told her to just drive on and mark the street names at the next corner, find another place to stop and call me back. That she did. I consulted the map and directed her back to where she should be.
Now I have the problem that my mother will hit this apartment in about 10mins, and calling this apartment "not in the state your apartment should be in when your mother comes" is such an understatement, that calling it an euphemism would be an euphemism.
 
@sbi Why did you give her directions to get there in only 10 minutes? :)
 
@sbi You got dead bodies laying around there or something?
 
:)
 
@StackedCrooked the bodies are in the cupboard. Its the orgy in the lounge that might raise eyebrows
 
sbi
@MartinhoFernandes Because it would have required a trip around the world to get the time needed to prop up this place and I couldn't do that to her?
@StackedCrooked What kind of mother did you have??
 
11:24 AM
@sbi My mother is normal. She dislikes dead bodies just like any other.
Somehow that sounded wrong.
 
sbi
@StackedCrooked Well, I got something way worse than dead bodies: I got a bunch of kids. Nothing like a herd of kids to turn the apartment upside down
Uh oh. Here she comes. I'm afk...
 
@sbi: Cheers!
 
I think exceptions are like religion. There are people who have the faith, and those who don't. And neither side buys the other's arguments.
 
@ChrisBecke And then there are agnostics that use them in some cases and don't in others. The problem is when you have a unique point of view, I believe in exceptions where they make sense, and error codes when they make sense. The code base I work on has some exception-free regions and some areas where exceptions make the code simpler
 
@ChrisBecke Except not, at all. Just because people disagree with you doesn't mean both sides are stubborn...
 
11:35 AM
I think this is more of a semantic difference... if when you say that there are errors that you can safely ignore you instead said that there are situations that you can ignore, both positions become closer: you don't want to use exceptions in circumstances that are not exceptional
And I think everyone here agrees that exceptions should not be control flow, and that only circumstances that are exceptional should trigger them.
 
@DavidRodríguezdribeas This is my position, which I am unable to hold apparently. My position, that exceptions vs error codes are a tradeoff and neither is always better than the other, is revolting to sbi and GMan and others who have now ignored me.
 
@ChrisBecke More straw men, huh? I can't count how many times you've shifted your objections. You originally started with "exceptions are never the solution" to somehow trying to point a finger at other people for not "seeing both sides" (as if they were equal in the first place). It's this kind of dishonestly that really fucking irks me.
 
The very first statement I made was to counter the equally absurd notion that exceptions are always the solution.
When asked to back that up I explained that I was more moderate, and have since then, defended the position that exceptions have a purpose, but not in a lot of application domain code.
And that blind application of exceptions in application domain code does lead to code that is sometimes harder to code review
 
chat.stackoverflow.com/transcript/message/608399#608399 It's right here, liar. Quote: "Ive never bought the exceptions should be used, even in exceptional circumstances argument."
And I don't recall you ever saying exceptions were useful, anywhere.
None of this unscrupulous goal moving crap, admit your words have unequivocal meaning: you said exceptions should never be used.
 
@GMan I honestly don't know why you bother with him
 
11:42 AM
8 hours ago, by James McNellis
I've never bought the "exceptions should only be used for exceptional circumstances" argument.
That was the post I replied to.
 
I'm well aware what others said, I'm concerned with what you said.
 
And my phrasing was a deliberate misquote.
 
It being a reply doesn't magically change the meaning of your words.
 
it changes the context, and hence the implied meaning.
 
No, context matters, but changes nothing here. There is no context in which "Ive never bought the exceptions should be used, even in exceptional circumstances argument." means anything but "exceptions have no use".
Hell, especially considering context, that's what makes it mean "never to be used", since in context it's already 'established' their use is for exceptional (not general) circumstance.
And of course, this is a single sentence.
It doesn't take a genius to continue reading further to see you quite openly deny the use of exceptions in any case.
 
11:46 AM
If we are going to argue semantics then even a strict, out of context reading of "Ive never bought the exceptions should be used, even in exceptional circumstances argument." doesn't mean exceptions should never be used.
 
hi every one...!!
 
@Miss hi
 
This conversation is exceptionally tiring.
 
@StackedCrooked Agreed. I'm going to try to sleep for three hours now, cheers.
 
an honest reading of what I said goes no further than saying that exceptions are not necessarily the only, or even just the best, way of dealing with exceptional errors.
 
11:48 AM
@GMan Night!
 
@GMan however, being spoken by @ChrisBecke does magically change the meaning of the words. Quite often, even.
 
@GMan "It doesn't take a genius to continue reading further to see you quite openly deny the use of exceptions in any case." - I deny the necessity of exceptions. I do not deny their use, by others.
 
Whee!!
Are you still at it?
Should you not be working or some such thing?
 
I'm taking the rest of the day off :)
 
user69820
i like exceptions
 
user69820
11:51 AM
but i also like return codes
 
got invited to a boardgaming night with some friends. If I hurry home I juuust have time for a short nap first
 
is there any error in this program
 
@oraclecertifiedprofessional I like to return pointers to exception objects and then throw them anyway.
 
all in all, today could turn out quite tolerable, for a monday
 
i am getting exception that m1 is being used somewhere
 
11:52 AM
@Miss: Do it the other way around. Tell use what goes wrong and we might tell you why it happens.
 
@Miss that all dependes on the definition of CDibs methods.
 
@Miss: Is line 45 not an infinite loop?
 
hm
 
@wilx and theres that
 
CDib is correct
its just an image
 
user69820
11:53 AM
@StackedCrooked i like that too
 
thats it
@wilx hmm let me see it again
 
@oraclecertifiedprofessional And then immideately catch it and return an error code again.
 
user69820
@StackedCrooked this sounds cyclicly wonderful
 
@oraclecertifiedprofessional It makes me feel like I'm ready for anything.
 
@wilx i do't think so ..
 
11:56 AM
@StackedCrooked Like this? int foo() { try { throw 1; } catch(int code) { return code; } } int bar() { if(foo() == 1) throw 2; }
 
user69820
@MartinhoFernandes needs more switch
 
@Miss: Unless there is another thread or the two variables are always the same at that point, it is.
 
@wilx I concur
 
Oh!!!
 
user69820
@MartinhoFernandes this feels like the safest program i've ever seen
 
11:57 AM
I see it now.
 
@MartinhoFernandes try + multiple catch overloads would allow you to implement a switch on type level :)
 
It is part of do{}while() loop.
Well, whatever.
@Miss: You need to specify what is wrong first. Otherwise it is just a guessing game.
 
@wilx well yes i am getting exception that m1 is being used somewhere
 
@A
 
@Miss your variable names are anything but descriptive
 
11:59 AM
Hello
 
Exception?
 
yes
well yes i am getting exception that m1 is being used somewhere
 
sbi
@StackedCrooked And to think I was once so young, I, too, participated in such discussions... Now I'm too weary of this.
 
i do't think that there is any problem but i am getting exception that m1 is being used somewhere
 
@Miss that doesn't mean anything to us, a variable being used is not an exception
 
12:01 PM
@TonyTheTiger unless it is being used for something truly exceptional
 
@Miss Does it fail to compile? Or does it compile but fail at runtime?
 
@Miss: Line 21 looks suspicious, too.
 
yes ofcourse
its a run time error
 
@jalf lol
 
Err, line 29.
 
12:02 PM
@Miss and what is the runtime error, exactly?
 
@Miss: Paste the exact error.
 
Run-Time failure- the variable 'm1' is being used without being initialized.
 
@Miss: Ok, that looks like the line 29.
I mean, the missing initialization is there.
missing there.
 
ohh
 
m1,m2 =0.0; does not initialize both.
 
12:06 PM
but
m1=m2=0.0
is that not enough?
hmm i see
 
@Miss thats a compile time error. not a run time error.
 
@Miss That would work, but that's not what you wrote.
 
just do m1 = 0.0; m2 = 0.0; it's clearer and easier to read
 
hmm ok
hmm well its working now
but my output result is not good
i have to check that
 
that linker error isn't going away bwah :(
 
12:14 PM
I'd help. but you ignored me.
 
@chrisBecke did you say to me
 
@Miss prob talking to me, but I ignored him
 
i guess Chris talked to me right now
 
@Miss nope. to Tony. Im good at solving link errors.
 
@chrisBecke: hmm ok
 
12:24 PM
sadly, (for Tony) hes not good at dealing with people who have differing opinions.
 
quite a few animals in this room: gorilla, tiger, cat, dog, pengiun :)
 
@tony nice
 
:)
who's got the cat/dog?
 
12:39 PM
waves
 
oh right
 
@jalf @DeadMG is a dog, @PiotrLegnica is cat
@jalf and you're the penguin if you hadn't noticed :p
 
@jalf is not a dog
yes he is penguin
 
@TonyTheTiger I realized that, yes ;)
oh, @DeadMG's is new, isn't it?
 
@jalf been like that all the time i've been here IIRC
 
12:50 PM
k
shows how much I pay attention then ;)
 
@jalf lol
@jalf rather quiet now we've ignored Chris, lol
 
room topic changed to Lounge<C++>: Where animals roam free -- don't feed the bear. Especially not with beer.
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anyway, I've got to run
I've got board gaming to do!
 
@jalf have fun!
 
will do
 
1:05 PM
@jalf: My puppy has been this way for months
 
@DeadMG seems he never paid attention to it
 
surprise me
 
@DeadMG how?
 
1:35 PM
its a bloody pain that you can't forward declare typedefs. Or can you?
namespace detail { struct RealBitmap { } };
typedef struct detail::RealBitmap Bitmap;
How to forward declare Bitmap in a different translation unit without including the definition of detail::RealBitmap?
 
@ChrisBecke You can't. Several reasons. I don't see how to implement overloading with the current techniques. The possibility of having different pointer size and format would be removed.
 
1:55 PM
Doesn't this work?
namespace detail {
struct RealBitmap;
}
typedef detail::RealBitmap RealBitmap;
 
@StackedCrooked that would work, but it is quite an effort to type all that each time a fwd declare is needed.
 
2:11 PM
hi people :)
anyone here familiar with opencv, emgucv and .net?
 
@ChrisBecke There are good reasons for that... a typedef creates an alias to a type in the global identifier space, while a class creates a new type only in the user defined types identifier space
now, the italics in good is because while the decision is sound in that regards (i.e. according to the actual meaning of typedef), it is not something that could be thought upfront, and it is not obvious when people think as typedef defining an alias for a type --most people is not fully aware that the identifier spaces are different
 
anyone ever had the phenomenon where they're just tired of programming and wanna do something completely different?
 
@FeRtoll You should probably try the C# room.

C#

General discussions about the c# language, Squirrels | gist.gi...
 
nobody there
 
@TonyTheTiger No, I haven't. Sometimes I do get tired of a specific project though..
 
2:15 PM
@FeRtoll Yeah, it's always empty :(
 
@StackedCrooked oh ok
 
bah nm thanx
 
@TonyTheTiger I know some people that have gone through that. I have gone through a mild version of that: thought on changing to a non-programming job so that I could program at home
@FeRtoll C# is a cool language, but they lounge is nowhere close to this one :P
 
@DavidRodríguezdribeas I kinda have that right now, maybe i'm just tired of this pjt though. not sure
C++'ers tend to be more social it seems
 
@Tony: It usually happens when you hit a brick wall in an idea
 
2:18 PM
I have grown tired of projects in the past, but... I don't know... when you get to learn new things the feeling goes away :P (for me, I already mentioned that some of the people that I know have gone completely out of programming, a previous co-worker is finishing some weird studies so that he can enroll in a merchant ship, after some 20+ years of development)
 
@DavidRodríguezdribeas the goodness of it all, doesn't make it a bit of a pain...
 
@DeadMG you mean you're stuck with the project or something?
 
yeah
 
namespace detail { struct RealBitmap { } };
struct Bitmap : detail::RealBitmap{};
 
like when I was working with DirectX, I stopped because they forgot to make D2D and D3D any sort of usefully compatible for DX11
 
2:22 PM
@DeadMG yea well I am kinda stuck, but I've no interest to even unravel it
 
does almost the same thing, but the semantics of it are different enough that that has its own set of issues
 
@TonyTheTiger That's a good indication that it might be time to move on onto different tasks/projects
 
@DavidRodríguezdribeas different job is coming soon, so I hope that will help
 
To me, you might be having a better or worse time, you might be more or less productive, but when you don't care anymore about you are doing, that's the turning point.
 
@DavidRodríguezdribeas so what would you do at the turning point, find another business to get into or something?
I just feel like I can't sit and do this every day, for that many hours in a day...
 
2:39 PM
Have you enjoyed working in programming before?
 
@DavidRodríguezdribeas yea
 
There's some people that just don't enjoy it ever, if that is the case, bail out as soon as possible. But I find it hard to believe that you would be spending this amount of time in programming forums/chat and not enjoy programming
Then try a different project, and if you are already changing jobs, then that will surely help to get at it with renewed energy
 
@DavidRodríguezdribeas no I do enjoy it, but it feels it's been a bit much lately, I've been doing little else
 
In our out of the office?
 
@DavidRodríguezdribeas in the office, and at home
 
2:48 PM
And what drives you to do it? What drives you to work at home after long hours/
 
Xeo
g'day everyone
 
hey guise
 
@DavidRodríguezdribeas just mostly cause there's not much else to do at home besides that, and because I had an interest in it
 
there's a lot of people in this chatroom
 
getting an irritation 'undefined reference' error. anyone wanna take a gander? the code is short.
 
2:50 PM
@Matt: Post it on stackoverflow.com
 
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Q: Time complexity of the code below?

NirmalGeoCan someone tell me the time complexity for the following code? #include<iostream> #include<string.h> using namespace std; int main() { char a[100]= "Gosh I am confused :D"; int i,count= -1,display_ToVal= strlen(a)-1, display_FromVal; for( i=strlen(a)-1 ; i>=0 ; i=i+count) { ...

Amazing how many people got the correct answer (O(N)) but for the wrong reasons (thinking it's one loop of N iterations).
 
@Matt undefined reference: again... usually only two or three times a day... either you did not provide the definition, or you did not compile it or you did not link it
The error message should tell you what is not defined, and where it is being used
 
take a look
It is when I am trying to create an instance of the class
 
undefined reference to `ticTacToe::ticTacToe()'
That is quite explicit: You did not define the constructor
you did declare it, but you did not define it
 
oh okay
so in order to use any other members of a class, a constructor must first be defined for the data members?
 
2:57 PM
@Matt no you must define it in the cpp file
 
If you declare a constructor and you use it, the compiler will assume that you have defined it somewhere
If the default behavior (which for POD types is doing nothing) suffices, you should not declare and then you would not need to define it. By adding the declaration you are promising that you will define it, but you fail to do so
 
ok
So a constructor must only be defined in a class if it is declared
ticTacToe:: ticTacToe()
{

}
 
The problem is not with the member call, but with the line above (28), where you construct the variable, if you tell the compiler that you will provide a default constructor, then ticTacToe object; tells the compiler that it should create a new object of that type and call the constructor that you have not defined
 
solved the issue
 
3:00 PM
That is a definition for the constructor
 
right
 
In which you should most probably initialize your member attributes...
 
and ticTacToe(); is the constructor declaration
right?
Thanks for the help
 
3:12 PM
lol
 
hi every one
what is problem in this line "ptr[i][j]= 255 -255*( pow( (ptr[i][j]/128 -1 ),2) );"
i am getting error at pow function
i guess i should post here code
 
First rule of fixing errors: What error?
Not all errors are created equal.
 
@MartinhoFernandes unlike us humans....
 
error:: error C2668: 'pow' : ambiguous call to overloaded function
 
@Miss and what's ptr?
 
3:18 PM
ptr is the pointer to image..
 
@Miss well, how many overloads of pow do you have?
 
@Miss what type of pointer though?
 
only two
let me see again
 
That is a good start... ambiguous call to overloaded function means that you are calling an overloaded function, and that the compiler is not able to determine from the place of call which of the overloads it should actually call. Consider:

void foo( int, double );
void foo( double, int );
foo( 1, 2 ); // which argument should it convert to double?
 
@chrisBecke: there are only two parameters
thats right
pow function take two parameters for example : pow(5,2) mean 5^2
 
3:20 PM
For another example:
void foo( float, int );
void foo( double, int );
foo( 1, 2 ); // should convert 1 to float or double?
 
ohh i see
 
And if you are following the line of reasoning you should be able to fix the problem yourself now :)
 
hmm yes
 
Damn; apparently I missed an error codes vs. exceptions discussion.
 
@JamesMcNellis don't even go there... heated discussion
 
3:26 PM
@JamesMcNellis You ignited it!
 
well i fixed it
thanks
thanks @david
 
@Xeo I gave an explanation. Not sure how valid it is.
 
Xeo
@AProgrammer After reading your explanation, it would mean that MSVC and Comeau got a bug
 
@JamesMcNellis No, please, don't bring it back again! (At least not if you are not willing to endure it, you can even move it to another chat room...)
 
3:29 PM
we should talk about singletons :p
 
@Xeo Why como? In my tentative I didn't found a behavior different that g++ (excepted that como seems to be using a typedef for ::iterator which g++ a true class, but it is implementation defined).
 
Xeo
@AProgrammer Hm, you're right. comeau doesn't choke on class vector<T>::iterator member
so it seems MSVC has a bug
 
14.6/2 A name used in a template declaration or definition and that is dependent on a template-parameter is assumed not to name a type unless the applicable name lookup finds a type name or the name is qualified by the keyword typename.
 
Xeo
@DavidRodríguezdribeas yes, but comeau and g++ compile fine if you use class instead of typename if the dependent name is a class
 
hello @Als
 
Als
3:37 PM
@TonyTheTiger: Hello, Tony :) How are you today?
 
@DavidRodríguezdribeas, the lookup after class/struct/enum is quite particular. In C the identifiers there a in another name space and C++ has special provisions for C compatibility (stat(struct stat*) being the most common use case in Unix).
 
@Als shit, I think my lack of sleep is really getting to me
@Als and i've lost interest in programming :( but maybe that is because of the sleep issue... still figuring that out
 
@AProgrammer I know about the different lookup, and it is not relevant here, the problem here is distinguishing whether a dependent identifier is a type or not, and that is done as 14.6 says
 
Als
@TonyTheTiger: Ahh same here! joined the new job today and they just killed me signing so many undertakings
@TonyTheTiger: Dont worry about the programming interest bud...you know you willl get back to it....temp phase
 
@Als I hope so :)
 
3:39 PM
BTW, C++ has exactly the same quirks as C with the two identifier spaces, the only difference is that in C++ if the identifier is not resolved in one namespace it will be looked up in the other before giving up, but the same issues arise
 
Als
@TonyTheTiger: I am sure you will! ahh the new jobs going to keep me busy it seems.I hope i can be here....
kinda addicting this c++ lounge :)
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@Als hehe there's always a good reason to come here :)
2
 
struct foo {};
void foo() { std::cout << "Hi" << std::endl; }
int main() {
   foo();             // ok function call
   struct foo x;   // ok struct forces lookup in the user defined types space
   class foo y;
   //foo z;           // error, foo is a function, not a type
}
 
Als
@TonyTheTiger: Sure i just hope they dont have SO blocked!
 
The only difference is that absent collisions, the C++ compiler will also lookup the identifier in the types identifier space
 
3:41 PM
@Als so out of curiosity, what day is it where you are?
@Als there's ways around that
 
thanks @DavidRodriguezdribeas
 
Als
@TonyTheTiger: Im in India....its 9.12pm i started at 7.00am just reached back home at 8.30pm and here i am :)
@TonyTheTiger: cgi proxies.....but i guess they mostly dont support script related stuff....so not sure...
 
@Miss no probs
I tend to wander on and off the chat, and I not always follow the conversations. If I don't answer, don't take it as rudeness :)
 
Als
@TonyTheTiger: oh its 18th April....I believe you are in europe so its +3.30hrs your time
 
@Als oh wow, not that big a difference then
 
Als
3:46 PM
@TonyTheTiger: Ya...whats your time now? still at work?
 
@Als yep 17:54
 
Als
4:01 PM
@TonyTheTiger: How many hours a day are you supposed to work? or flexible timings?
I have begin to believe that most people dislike their own jobs but always like the next persons.....Grass always seems greener on other side of the hill haa..:)
 
@Als 8
@Als most likely
 
@David: sure i understand...:)
 
4:16 PM
@Als strangely, I like my job.
 
Als
4:39 PM
@ChrisBecke: lucky you!
 
5:23 PM
@Xeo yes using class is valid because the name lookup of it will only consider type names.
so after name lookup, what you get is either a name lookup error, or a type
 
@Als The grass is always greener on the other side of the hill, if you are radioactive.
 
however, formally using class is only allowed to assume it's a type in a template for C++0x. In C++03 you cannot say it and make it assume it's a type. But AFAIK some compilers already do so in C++03. It's a sensible thing to do anyway
 
1. The grass is always greener on the other side, because you ruin your own grass.
 
the lookup for typename,however, is required not to ignore non-type names. In other words: struct A { int static const B; struct B { }; }; typename A::B b; /* ill-formed! */. GCC is known to ignore that rule and will lookup to the struct.
 
Or the other side of the hill has more paint available.
 
5:27 PM
2. There's always someone in your workplace who doesn't like you. At the same time, this explains why there's always someone you don't like.
3. Pointy Haired bosses answer to bosses with more points in their head.
4. HR exists solely because middle management doesn't know how to speak to professionals.
 
Portal 2 releases tommorow at 10AM. Goodbye, what little productivity I have left.
 
@Xaade HR knows?
 
5. Documentation is designed to consume design time, so that you're more productive coding.
@MartinhoFernandes Middle management hire HR..... it's recursive.
That's key to the joke.
 
Xeo
6:16 PM
in what context can it happen that std::vector<T>::begin() returns an iterator that doesn't have a pointer to its parent container? (MSVC2010 debug mode, the _Myproxy of that iterator is 0)
 
@Xeo: Possibly because you're calling it on a nullptr?
 
Xeo
@DeadMG the vector is a stack variable :/
 
well, it's perfectly legit for the Standard library implementation to not have any pointers or whatever it likes
 
Xeo
well, i get a nice "vector iterators not compatible" error when doing a find(myVec.begin(),myVec.end(),value)
 
post more code
preferably on pastebin
 
Xeo
6:25 PM
that's unfortunately not possible. :| the codebase is fucking big and I really don't know what belongs to this error...
 
you said it was a stack variable
start with that
 
hello every one..!!
 
Xeo
hm, I got an idea.. lets see if I can reproduce the error with minimal code..
 
6:41 PM
If the iterators complain, first thing to check is CRT versions.
 
@Xeo @PiotrLegnica Yes, I think this happened to me once when I disabled iterator checking on some VS projects, but not all.
 
i need help about gradient
i do't understand it in mathematical way
Mathematically, the gradient of a two-variable function (here the image intensity function) is at each image point a 2D vector with the components given by the derivatives in the horizontal and vertical directions. At each image point, the gradient vector points in the direction of largest possible intensity increase, and the length of the gradient vector corresponds to the rate of change in that direction.
 
_HAS_ITERATOR_DEBUGGING is the define I believe
 
sorry i do't understand "At each image point, the gradient vector points in the direction of largest possible intensity increase, and the length of the gradient vector corresponds to the rate of change in that direction."
any one can help help me for understanding it
 
_HAS_ITERATOR_DEBUGGING and also _SECURE_SCL.
 
6:48 PM
Yep
I posted a related question in the past: stackoverflow.com/questions/4006883/…
 
We've actually had to turn debugging iterators permanently, because with them enabled MSVC2010 fails to compile Boost.MultiArray. :(
 

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