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9:00 PM
heh, fair points, both
 
sbi
I think the strangest beer I had was from Vietnam. No Egyptian.
 
@sbi: do you have much american beer?
 
@JohnDibling: Why would someone in Germany want to drink American beer? I live in the US and I don't want to drink American beer :-P
 
@James: then you're not having the right American beer :)
 
sbi
@JohnDibling Much?
 
9:02 PM
here are two of my favorite breweries
 
Some smaller breweries are good here.
 
sbi
@JamesMcNellis Actually, I quite liked the micro brewery scene in Portland, OR, when I was there.
 
What about PBR?
 
PBR is piss sold to yuppies for $5.00 a can
 
sbi
9:03 PM
There was some decent beer to be had in Portland, that's for sure. (German beer, too.)
 
There are a few breweries here that I like.
Yuengling is good beer, though you can only get it on the East coast I think.
Shiner is good, for those living in and around Texas.
I haven't checked out many of the local breweries here in Seattle yet.
 
sbi
"Yuengling" LMAO!
(That's German!)
 
we get Shiner Bock in Chicago. I'm not a fan
 
@sbi It's delicious.
@JohnDibling They have a great hefeweizen.
 
sbi
@JamesMcNellis Yeah, but the name is hilarious!
 
9:06 PM
Does it translate to something else in English?
 
sbi
It's a misspelling of "Jüngling", which leo translates to "youngling".
 
sbi
The German meaning indicates a guy in his late teeens, early twenties.
 
That makes sense then since that's when I drank it!
 
maybe its a star wars reference. does it make you feel like a jedi in training?
 
sbi
9:08 PM
I suppose it comes from some German immigrant, surname "Jüngling", who changed his name into "Yuengling" when he immigrated. Or his descendants did.
 
This is not the beer you're looking for.
 
sbi
@JohnDibling No. For one, it's an rather old-fashioned word, hardly in use outside of Brothers Grimm's nowadays.
Also, it invokes the image of someone desperately trying to grow a mustache.
:)
 
Ha ha
 
9:29 PM
lol comments of Valentin are fun:
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A: Hidden Features of C++?

Johannes Schaub - litbNot only can variables be declared in the init part of a for loop, but also classes and functions. for(struct { int a; float b; } loop = { 1, 2 }; ...; ...) { ... } That allows for multiple variables of differing types.

 
No, no, no. There are no bugs in Visual C++.
 
sbi
@JamesMcNellis Yes, there are! They just name them "feature".
 
There are lots of language extensions.
 
it's a hidden and dangerous feature in this case ahaha
i guess they just allow elaborated type specifiers when they see a "struct", instead of considering that here it's also allowed to specify a class-specifier
 
9:35 PM
It really does flip out... 11 syntax errors on one line of code!
 
haha!
it's full of schnaps. even the error count has schnaps in it
hmm I knew one guy that works on the Visual Studio team... forgot his name.
something with M at the start i think
 
Pavel Minaev and Eric Lippert are both on the VS team.
If I recall correctly, Jared Parsons also worked on VS before.
 
ohh that'S the guy. Pavel Minaev. you working at the same local office?
 
I think he's in Canada.
 
9:41 PM
I work across the street from the VS team.
 
sbi
@JohannesSchaublitb But that isn't the VS team you want, it's the VC team.
 
ohh i see. forgot it's not a single building over there at MS :)
 
It would have to be a big building :-D
 
i imagine google is even bigger than MS or IBM's centers
 
sbi
@JohannesSchaublitb If you want to do this directly, you want to try Ronald Learmans, Kang Su Gatlin, Jonathan Caves, or Brandon Bray. (But check whether they actually still are on the VC team.)
 
9:44 PM
ohh
 
sbi
You can find their names and addresses in the VC newsgroups.
 
It's best just to submit a bug on connect.microsoft.com. I always got responses when I submitted bugs that way.
 
sbi
(Mirrored on the web somehwere, no doubt.)
 
i don't care about VC++ xD i never use it
i'm settled on gcc and clang.
 
9:53 PM
i couldn't live without msvc
best debugger ever
 
10:12 PM
I just read the chapter on pointers in "Problem Solving, Abstraction, and Design using C++". It discusses how single objects are allocated via new, and how arrays are allocated via new[], but it does not mention delete[] anywhere, only delete. The explanation of delete reads as follows: "The memory pointed to by p is returned to the heap." Destructors aren't discussed here at all. PURE EPIC FAIL
This reassures me in my observation that most C++ books are complete crap.
 
> smart_pointer p(new zig(new foo(), new bar()));
@wilhelmtell I would solve the leak issue with auto p = make_shared<zig>(make_shared<foo>(), make_shared<bar>());
Assuming the zig constructor takes shared pointers as arguments, of course.
Today, I ordered 7 books on amazon, and not one of them has anything to do with programming :-/
Am I ill?
I also skimmed "Seven Languages in Seven Weeks", but it was quite disappointing :-(
@JohannesSchaublitb You only linked that answer of yours so you get my upvote! ;)
 
10:41 PM
later all. for those among you of a certain persuasion, happy thanksgiving!
 
Happy Thanksgiving, John!
(What, you're not going to come hang out here all day tomorrow?) :-D
 
haha, nope. gotta cook soup, then drive. :)
 
Mmmm, turkey soup.
 
sbi
10:55 PM
@JamesMcNellis Under your desk?
 
Yeah
I was going to stack some old CRTs up and build a fort!
 
i've just submitted a bug for msvc regarding @litb's for-init-statement problem
you can upvote it if you have live id
 
@FredOverflow ahaha xD
 
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