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4:00 PM
If you try to shake a girl's hand, she'll be upset because you totally just assumed her gender
 
Simply put, you don't gesture for a girl's hand unless she offers it first. That's some old school chivalry stuff that apparently that doesn't sit well with these modern men in here who are all 'equal rights'.
 
Alright, let's just drop it before the Tumblrinas show up.
 
no matter how you cut it, pretending that girls shake different is being a dick
 
If you can't shake her hand, she's never going to let you shake her bed.
 
hehe
 
4:00 PM
pro tipp: don't try to shake anyones hand playing poker tho...
 
@Shmiddty lol
 
Handshakes are about gender, guys.
It's obvious
 
@Waxi That may be ok, but why would it only apply to women?
 
If you can't shake her hand, she's never going to let you be the dank memer you were always meant to be.
 
@Shmiddty I think what we've learned today is that iff you're a man, you stick your hand out, and if you're a women, you turn it inside out and accept the other person's hand.
 
4:02 PM
@ndugger can't shake her hand if it's in the shape of an L on her forehead
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Also, women usually hug instead of shake hands..
 
go back to 1992
 
@KendallFrey I'm not sure, my theory was the dominance thing, but it's probably the same reason why you're supposed to open the door or whatever for a woman. I'm not sure why you guys want to pretend that everyone is equal and should be treated equal. That basically throws away everything men/women have been doing since forever.
 
@KendallFrey Oh fuck you, now that's in my head.
 
And it won't stop coming
 
4:02 PM
@Waxi ...because people are equal?
 
> I'm not sure why you guys want to pretend that everyone is equal and should be treated equal. - Waxi, 2017
 
lol
 
I have to agree with Waxi on that
 
You know what I mean damnit.
 
but treating people as equals doesn't mean you can't open a door for someone..
 
4:03 PM
you can open doors for all kinds of people and even some animals
 
user2620028
@waxi you have never opened a door for a man before?
 
I hold the door for anyone who's directly behind me.
 
@Waxi you are not welcome in Canada
 
Does that mean I'm trying to fuck them? No.
 
4:03 PM
Apparently there is a negative connotation for behaving a certain way towards women. When did that become a thing?
 
No, men are competition. Lock the door.
 
@Waxi When you behave differently toward men
 
@Waxi Women's suffrage
We should probably take away their right to vote
 
@Waxi It isn't as much as it sounds here. You came off all old-school. Men can still treat women differently, it's just more sublt.e
 
Then we can take all the hugs we want
 
4:04 PM
@Waxi Gender equality doctrine I guess
 
user2620028
@waxi you can be chivalrous but you can also be offensive at the same time, they are not mutually exclusive
 
@Shmiddty you can just grab em by the hug
@HatterisMad more often, people just pretend to be chivalrous to cover obviously offensive opinions
 
user2620028
try doing the things that are chivalrous and not considered offensive by the culture you live in
 
@Luggage it depends, but some allows a kiss on the cheek
 
> They're special, that's why I hold the door.
 
4:05 PM
And, it depends on the women, too. I hear the css girls talking and they are very much into gender norms. they talk about how they needed a man along when shopping for a car, etc. Other women find that to be a weakness.
 
Modern men are against being chivalrous because it's sexist. That's basically what I'm hearing. I feel bad for the lot if that's how you really think.
 
Males and females have an equal status on any social matter, but nonetheless they are not equal.
 
it's kinda culture here to greet a good friend by a kiss on the cheek ( if they allow ), either male or female
 
@Waxi no, we're against your fake chivalry, because you're just being sexist.
 
!!c#
 
user2620028
4:06 PM
@Waxi chivalry has changed in the past 1000 years, your view on it has not
 
in C#, May 5 '16 at 15:17, by BoltClock
THIS ROOM IS OUT OF CONTROL
 
equal in value, but not in every aspect of personality.
 
@HatterisMad It has? Says who?
 
If I had a dollar for every time Willam Defoe put on a dress...
 
4:07 PM
@Waxi People defines me as a " modern gentleman ". What now ?
 
this doesn't look like it's going to end, so per Shog, I'm going to kick unless another RO disagrees
 
maybe this is like that movie Encino Man. @Waxi do you recall ever being frozen in a large block of ice?
 
is it sexist to claim that females in general are physically weaker than males?
 
Kick who? everyone is in this, now.
 
The topic of women is so sensitive in here and I don't understand it.
 
4:08 PM
I guess most of cultural "behavior" is based on that simple fact
 
@jAndy not if it's true
 
kick someone because they disagree with you? cmon now
 
No, not for disagreeing.
 
@KevinB shog was very clear after waxi's last ban that we were to kick immediately
 
Wouldn't be the first time I got kicked for instigating a discussion.
 
4:09 PM
This isn't a discussion, this is us pointing out that your logic is flawed, and you adamantly saying it isn't.
 
There is no problem with the discussion. But your lack of nuance comes off a bit trolly. As if you are pretending not to understand.
 
@Waxi if you want to keep being offensive, you'll keep getting kicked.
 
I haven't.. surprisingly (being kicked). Even tho I doubt the offical 9/11 story on building 7 here :p
 
The mods have made that abundantly clear, in detail.
 
4:10 PM
I'm offensive because I said you shouldn't shake a girl's hand unless she offers it first. I don't even have words for how stupid that is.
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Isn't there a state in special relativity where the years DO stop coming?
 
@Shmiddty no
 
absolute zero
time stops
 
I guess I won't be sharing other manners.
 
When does one hit the ground running?
 
4:12 PM
that's a good choice
 
Javascript devs are basically the last people I trust when it comes to discussion about equality.
 
Maybe people should just stick to talking about JS or STFU?
 
@Waxi if you can't convince them, join them... ohhh the irony
 
being off topic is welcome, so long as you can do it without attacking anyone
 
impossible
 
4:13 PM
guys, @Waxi is basically our puppy. We need to train him. You can only smack him on the snout with a rolled up Hustler so many times before he becomes violent
 
this is the internet
 
@Shmiddty No, we're not fixing people, you can't do that online.
 
I agree he wasn't being offensive, and people did jump on him about equality. It's also a dumb conversation, just don't force people to do anything they don't want. OFFERING to shake is fine, and a rule against that is out-dated, but.. meh. Does it have to be more than that.
 
@ssube nobody got attacked in that discussion right
 
4:13 PM
The attitude in here is not an accurate representation of the real world, it's just not.
 
Let your lawyer talk for you.
 
@Waxi Where do you live?
 
> a scientist who also questions evolution (and presumably isn't a primate)
 
@Shmiddty 'Merica
 
4:15 PM
I've never seen a scientist who stood straight up on two feet, they're all hunched over.
 
@Waxi so... the South?
 
@Shmiddty it's not like the rest of the country is actually that much better at the whole civil rights business, as it turns out
 
@Waxi nope, we're a representation of the Tron universe
 
@rlemon where's my sweet data disk then
 
I don't recall the men having no balls in the Tron universe.
 
4:18 PM
@Failsafe you lost yours
if you die, you die for real
 
oh shiiit
@Waxi Wew that's spicy
 
@Waxi you can't blanket sexism with 'being manly' no one buys that but other sexists
 
The room in general is actually a pretty nice experiment on culture and behavior since we have people here from all over the planet
offers his hand
 
he wasn't being sexist today..
but i'm not sure why he's calling us ball-less either
 
>she he's
 
4:19 PM
What does it mean to be sexist, treating women differently than men, or treating women worse than men?
 
i type random words sometimes.
 
@Luggage but women are special, you have to be extra careful with them
 
sometimes they are.
 
@Waxi both
 
@Luggage no, but he's saying if we're in the Tron universe, we have no balls because we're men and we have learned to respect others?
or am I reading his thinly veiled BS wrong?
 
4:20 PM
@rlemon No it's because your balls can't be converted into digital jazz, man
 
unless you're a medical doctor, you shouldn't be treating people differently based on their organs
 
yes. A lot of words have been put into his mouth, today.
 
@Failsafe citation needed
 
I guess this question is still open then
> is it sexist to claim that females in general are physically weaker than males?
 
@Luggage foot is a word
 
4:21 PM
@Luggage a lot of these words have left his mouth in previous interactions and he shows no effort to change
 
@jAndy nah
 
Being sexist has a negative connotation and if treating women differently than men is being sexist then we are all sexist. That doesn't work.
 
you've made it clear a number of times how antiquated your idea of gender roles and positions are @Waxi.
 
but I still hear actual real females (younger than I) that openly wish for men to do things.. for men to take a traditional role and ask them out and handle certain situtaions (talking to a mechanic).
 
4:21 PM
Men should be allowed to punch women then since he doesn't want to be sexist?
 
you can treat people with respect and as your equal but also respect their differences.
 
I have respect for you RO's. I am very surprised that you haven't kicked this dude yet...
Lots more patience than most..
 
@Luggage choose whatever role you want to be in. blanket statements about other genders is and always has been frowned upon
 
@Luggage equality means women can be sexist, especially given how much effort is put into "teaching them their place"
 
74 text messages during my demo. THANKS FAMILY
 
4:22 PM
@Waxi no, no one should be able to punch anyone
 
@Waxi the law doesn't have a special kind of assault for punching a women, it's all the same.
 
@SterlingArcher I don't even get that in a month
 
@rlemon that would make for interesting boxing matches
 
@SterlingArcher I only sent you one.
it was about vegans
 
Am I a sexist, if I would not want a female comrade in war as a soldier? (besides the fact I don't want anybody in war). A female just cannot have the physical strength that the average guy has.. so if it comes I'm in distress... what now. I die because I wasn't a sexist?
 
4:23 PM
@jAndy The Game
7
 
How come men don't fight/punch women? Because it's not fair, they're not physically the same, but hey, you shouldn't treat women differently at all because if you do you're being a sexist. This is why the equal treatment argument is bullshit.
 
equal opportunity*
 
@Waxi Are you saying it's ok for women to hit men?
 
@Waxi Why would you punch someone?
 
@littlepootis their puns
 
4:24 PM
:hides:
 
it's the only good reason to strike another human
 
can't spell punch without puns
 
that is a sad list @BenFortune
 
If you want the argument to stop, you need to tell everyone. Stating facts about the men/women on average is not the same as being sexist.
 
4:25 PM
@KendallFrey If I don't want to be labeled a sexist I would have to be ok with it right?
 
Men are taller than women, on average.
 
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Julien__I don't have any cleaning product right now at home, and the only alcohol I have is vodka. Can it be used to clean my keyboard and trackpad, or will it damage my laptop? (I think that alcohol is often used to clean computers, but I'm not sure that it's the same kind of alcohol)

 
@Waxi I've been stabbed by a woman, you're god damn right I knocked her crazy ass out.
 
@Waxi no
that's if you do want to be sexist
 
@Luggage men have larger penises than women, on average
 
4:26 PM
well, if you assume that most "cultural" behaviors from males towards females are based on physical difference... it has a strong relation
 
@Shmiddty Not in my relationship unfortunately
 
@jAndy they're not. A lot are related to infectious disease, in fact.
 
@KendallFrey What? Should I be ok with punching a woman or not? Why?
 
women are more likely to get pregnant
 
@Shmiddty Although your mother is doing everything she can to avoid that
 
4:26 PM
@littlepootis Arnold is changing that
 
@Waxi FFS DON'T HIT ANYONE
 
i mean... you shouldn't punch anyone, what kind of question is that
 
@Waxi you shouldn't be okay with punching anyone
 
@rlemon I love that movie!
 
@jAndy arstechnica.com/science/2016/11/… is quite interesting
 
4:27 PM
@KevinB seems pretty on par with the conversation as a whole.
 
well, I wasn't pointing out sexual difference, I meant females as being physically weaker in generell.
 
I'm no biologist but I'm pretty sure hormones are also a factor.
 
a huge number of our "social norms" are about disease prevention
 
remember when this room was about javascript?
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which makes sense, given how many plagues we get
 
4:28 PM
@Failsafe no
 
You guys are just avoiding the question because it shines light on how flawed the argument is. OK sure, nobody should be punching anyone, but how come it's generally accepted that you can't punch a woman? Apparently society is experiencing selective sexism.
 
@Failsafe I member
 
@rlemon same
 
@Failsafe remember moar bettar
 
@Waxi Because women are people, and you shouldn't hit people...
 
4:28 PM
@Failsafe what's javascript?
 
@Waxi That's not even remotely accurate. I'm 100% for defending yourself no matter what.
 
@Waxi well unless it's Ronda Rousey
 
@Waxi no you're missing the point. you're trying to say "it's okay to punch someone" which is fundamentally flawed.
 
Javascript is sexist
 
@Waxi i disagree with that being generally accepted. it may have been in the past,
 
4:28 PM
She can take a punch. Several, in fact, in less than a minute.
 
Would hit on Ronda Rousey
 
@KendallFrey Because the only answer to that question is because she's female and that goes against 'equal treatment'.
 
the cops are pretty anti-punching across the board now
 
gif length even
 
4:29 PM
@Waxi how about equal treatment and not punching anyone you fucking heathen
 
There are many differences between a man and a women - aside from their organs. They think differently than men, they love differently than men. They have a compassion and caring side 90% of men will never have. Men are also different than women. They are able to compartmentalize almost everything so they can focus on the task at hand without thinking of other @#%@# going on around them. So I disagree, there's more than sexes than just organs.

As to if you should ever punch a women? No. Men need to protect them. women are th e only ones that can bring life into this world. And women need
 
@RyanTernier just gonna jump in and be super sexist, huh?
 
savage
 
Mindgame (which you all lost again): A guy punches a random girl in the face in the middle of a big crowd, what happens? Right.. guy is being fucked by all other guys around (strangers).
 
If i am a man but identify as a woman, can i punch myself?
 
4:30 PM
In the opposite case.. what happens? :P
 
@RyanTernier Why should men protect women?
 
are men and women equal? no of course not. just look at them. no one is arguing they are the same. _should we treat men and women equally and give them equal opportunity? yes we should bob, yes we should.
 
@ssube I see you've never met Ryan before
 
you're always allowed to punch yourself
 
@rlemon Yeah sure, but assuming you had to for whatever reason, you felt threatened and a punch to their face was an appropriate response. Tell me you're not going to punch a woman and not because she's a woman.
 
4:30 PM
what about other women?
 
@mikeTheLiar nope. Known troll?
 
@RyanTernier there's a difference between societal norms and biological traits
 
@ssube half troll, half just kinda a dick.
 
@ssube C# room owner
 
@ssube no he's just canadian
 
4:31 PM
@Waxi in self defence I don't care what gender you are. but then again, you're trying to justify an action. THERE IS NO ACCEPTABLE PUNCHING OF ANYONE
 
Haha
 
@ssube Either shhut down the whole conversation or stop kicking people that notice any differences between gender.
 
> no he's just canadian
 
@rlemon But what if I want Ronda to Punch me? For Reasons?
 
@rlemon There is plenty of reasons why you would want to hit someone, c'mon now.
 
4:31 PM
Wow, you guys kicked and banned me for that? So much for opinions
 
that hurts a lot of ppl here
 
@Waxi sure there might be reasons to want to hit someone, but there isn't a reason to hit someone.
 
People who get hurt by words need to have a stronger spine
 
@Luggage I've tried, but until the mods show up, dunno what I can do.
 
@rlemon agreed. But then again, punching a girl forces a reacting in almost any guy to protect the female, whereas the opposite won't have the same effect.
 
4:32 PM
stahp flagging
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the world will eat them up and spit them out otherwise
 
so.. it is not equal :P
 
@Sidney Not helping, shhhh
 
@jAndy antiquated gender roles.
 
@RyanTernier the criteria for a 60 second kick is low.
 
4:32 PM
@Luggage but what about a 48 second punch?
 
2 mins ago, by rlemon
are men and women equal? no of course not. just look at them. no one is arguing they are the same. _should we treat men and women equally and give them equal opportunity? yes we should bob, yes we should.
 
I don't think that is a role... that comes in natural
 
@ton.yeung True. Easier to hide here than face the world.
 
If I was with a girl who was stronger than me, damn right I'd want her to protect me
 
@Trasiva >Implying anything will help an internet debate about who it is and isn't ok to punch
 
4:33 PM
@KendallFrey so, half the women you've met?
 
probably more
 
@rlemon Probably all of them.
 
s/half/all
 
@wilx Someone flagged that?!
 
Wew
 
4:33 PM
@wilx now this is flaggable, don't let a mod or meta user see you using such epithets
 
I would never hit a woman because of the physical difference, but that doesn't align with the treated equal stance, which is a problem.
 
You seen the wrists on Kendall? Matchsticks.
 
remember I live where the farmers are
most of those girls could kick my ass
 
@rlemon yea totally agree with that
 
"I want a girl that can take a punch"...said no one ever.
 
4:34 PM
s/those girls/anyone/
 
Seriously? Flagging that as well?
 
@Waxi would you hit a man?
 
lol
 
@littlepootis Absolutely, have before.
 
@Waxi drop the hitting thing, please. You know it's being misunderstood.
 
4:34 PM
@Waxi why?
 
@Waxi actually, a lot of men are probably into 'stronger' women. you're projecting yourself onto 'men' as a whole.
please stop.
 
HAMMERTIME!
 
even tho.. following that agenda, there shouldn't be "female quota" in companies and other "forced rules" to advance females over males. The best man... ehhh girl... ehhhh human, gets the job right
 
@littlepootis probably because he tried to shake a woman's hand.
 
@Waxi Roller Derby girls are pretty hot. Are you telling me what type of women I like? Triggered
 
4:35 PM
but that isn't the case at present
 
@Luggage It's not being misunderstood, it's just a really good example of how being treated equal only works under certain conditions where it's convenient.
 
I'd be into rlemon if he were stronger
 
@jAndy pointing out things that are wrong don't excuse them for being wrong.
we're a changing society
 
s/into/in
 
things don't really stay the same for too long
 
4:36 PM
if society ever stops changing, we're screwed
 
@rlemon that's a goddamn lie
 
@littlepootis I don't remember...it was a fight for whatever reason, probably over girls lol.
 
@rlemon remember the dark age
 
no
 
4:36 PM
and by remember i mean not literally
 
because things changed
😃
 
yea but it took a shitload of time
 
the really important shit hasn't changed in recorded history
 
500 years is a blink in the grand scheme of things.
 
@Waxi you punched men over girls....?
 
4:36 PM
tax and interest are around for quite a while
 
@Failsafe and has been accelerating ever since
 
Guys what the shit happened
 
@Failsafe A shitload of time is 5 minutes, tops.
@SterlingArcher shit happened
 
and I imagine change will keep accelerating until it becomes instant
 
@ton.yeung yeah, chat's moving too last
 
4:37 PM
jesus christ
 
@SterlingArcher Mallory sold the company to Cyril, that's what happened
 
DYK landlord is one of the oldest roles in modern civilization
 
I SWEAR TO GOD ROB
 
@SterlingArcher yes, child?
 
4:37 PM
That was impressively fast
 
@SterlingArcher it's probably better to just leave and come back in an hour or 2
 
@littlepootis I dunno, I think the dude thought I was coming onto his girl and wanted to put a stop to it.
 
So, have we agreed that hitting girls is bad because [sexism]? Can we start the investigation on if girls poop?
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yeah it's lunch break. We still have 4 hours left in our demo
 
4:38 PM
@Failsafe alternatively get some popcorn ready
 
@Sidney They don't, i hear.
 
@Sidney They don't poop because they don't have buttholes.
 
@waxi Not with that attitude
 
You've never gotten to 4th base?
 
@Waxi your mom does, confirmed
 
4:38 PM
Also.. I love when 25 males in JavaScript discuss gender equality!
 
@Sidney oonly the offspring of Kim Jong Il don't poop
 
@Waxi I have several thousand hours of video evidence to the contrary.
 
@Luggage 5th*
 
because Kim didn't poop
 
@jAndy Javascript can't even get type equality right
 
4:39 PM
@jAndy You assumed everyone's gender
 
Because we're men we can't discuss gender equality?
 
lol
 
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Q: Building a bridge from one side

ArandurYour people have been displaced by war, and have wandered for many months looking for a new home. Yesterday, you came across something truly marvelous. You are camped at the edge of a huge ravine, some two miles across and a thousand feet deep. At the bottom of the ravine runs a strait connecting...

I love world building SE
 
I sexually identify as Jesus Christ
 
@rlemon I hear Imodium sales are up in DPRK
 
4:39 PM
"How can I build a bridge from one side?" turns into "well, a ballista can only send a person 400m, tops"
 
@jAndy Males are allowed to discuss gender equality. Don't start the identity politics where you have to be female to understand an argument about gender or you have to be black to understand what racism is. :)
 
@SterlingArcher tl;dr "so if treating someone different is sexism, shouldn't hitting girls be okay" and then 25 minutes of trying to convince that hitting anyone isn't okay, and both genders equally should not be hit.
 
Well it would have been more fun if the discussion was influenced by at least one.. female.
 
I identify as a woman so I can help out with that
 
@jAndy for some definition of "fun"
 
4:40 PM
@BadgerCat tell everyone to shut up
 
!!echo Shut up, everyone
 
I am not your politics. fuck off.
 
right then
 
Gonna go find some lunch, hopefully I'm not forced to punch my way out.
 
@KendallFrey "We" as "males" can only assume a lot of stuff when it comes to female perception, so, a female should have changed a lot
 
4:41 PM
bring it back up and get kicked :D
 
@Failsafe For the last time, there is a difference between "Woman" and "Sky weasel"
 
@jAndy not if they are 100% the same as many have argued.
 
@Shmiddty Is that because you like getting nailed?
 
You can't have it both ways: "men and women are not different at all" and "men can't understand women and shouldn't talk about them"
 
@Sidney [Citation needed]
 
4:42 PM
@Shmiddty Delete it so they can't see the history.
 
ROs can
 
@Sidney I've never seen a sky weasel.
 
@Luggage which actually makes the whole gender equality agenda absurd
 
so there's no way to be sure
 
@rlemon Nice
 
4:43 PM
@ssube I've never seen an ocelot
 
@Trasiva delete it so they won't be suspicious
 
@mikeTheLiar go see one, then.
 
@littlepootis Delete it so they won't be suspicious
 
@BenFortune ahaha I forgot this is all new to you
 
@mikeTheLiar BABOU!
 
4:43 PM
HE REMEMBERS ME!
 
@KendallFrey You fox-eared asshole
 
@jAndy meh. Just make sure any time you find actual gender unfairless you fix it. You don't have to pretend them men and women are 100% the same and think the same to have equal rights
 
I can't wait for more archer
 
@KendallFrey should be called "buyer's remorse"
 
s/archer/rick and morty/
 
4:44 PM
@KendallFrey do you watch Sunny, esp the latest season?
 
@Luggage are you drunk?
 
it's quite good
 
No..
Am I talking like I'm drunk?
 
F is for Family is good as well, I recommend everyone watch it
 
4:45 PM
@Luggage kinda
 
@Luggage But that is just an illusion, because of simple physical difference, you can't apply that "picture" to any situation. I already gave the soldier example, you can't treat males and females equally in any instance.
 
@rlemon eh. 3/5
 
@jAndy oh my god, no, just stop
 
HAMMERTIME!
 
duhhhh duh duh duh
 
4:46 PM
@jAndy well, you can, if you don't wanna be sexist.
 
@rlemon that was a good show for the first half-ish, then it got a little American Dad-y
which is only an ok show
 
@rlemon yes you could.. but then you take the female comrade and I get the male on battlefield :P
 
@jAndy not in every instance. Equality means women should be allowed in combat roles (which I favor). Reality might mean less women make it through a fair process that treats men and women the same (which is also fair)
 
if a woman wants to fight on the front line and can pass all requirements and basic training, she should have every oppertunity to defend her country that every other applicant that passed the same requirements did.
thinking otherwise makes you sexist.
 
which is just dumb ideology
 
4:47 PM
@jAndy The Game
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@jAndy why?
 
@rlemon I'll remind you that Newt Gingrich thinks that women can't serve in the military because they get "infections"
 
@Luggage see, someone else gets it!
 
@rlemon @SterlingArcher did you see Pacific Heat on netflix? so bad.
 
What, my statement?
 
4:47 PM
@mikeTheLiar so? asshats thinks all sorts of weird things.
 
@Shmiddty fucking awful
 
@Luggage it's very much the same as what I wrote under it
 
I've been trying to spout "equal as people but not 100% the same" the entire time, but people seem to be intent on focusing on the second part.
 
18 mins ago, by rlemon
are men and women equal? no of course not. just look at them. no one is arguing they are the same. _should we treat men and women equally and give them equal opportunity? yes we should bob, yes we should.
^ is close to where I joined the convo
 
@Luggage yes we totally agree on that. But that would mean, that every female serving in the army has to have the same physical strength as all here male comrades, which sounds idiotic to assume.
 
4:49 PM
no it doesn't
 
well, no, they simply have to meet the minimum.
 
@jAndy "as all male comrades" wat? they vary as well
 
everyone serving should have a basic level of strength as required to do the fucking job.
 
plenty of men can't get into the army because they can't pass the physical test
I believe that was the plot of Captain America
 
@ssube what I mean is.. that the female is most likely not able to drag her wounded comrade away, but the opposite is way more likely, on average of course
 
4:50 PM
@jAndy and that's why you have an entry test, like any other job.
 
otherwise you have to assume, every serving female in army is the same weight and size then the average male
 
It works great for fire and police
 
@jAndy no, not on average once you put a bar in front of them saying they have to prove that ability before serving. there are restrictions to get into the military in other countries.
 
@jAndy then you make sure the minimums for the job are such they she has a chance of dragging her comrades away.
 
it isn't just "show up and heres you gun"
 
4:51 PM
Firefighters have to drag people around all the time, so they make every fire fighter regularly take a timed test.
 
holy fuck how is this happening again. GET OUT OF MY BRAIN
 
and there are plenty of female fire fighters, so that seems to work out ok
 
First, they make sure you know how to profile
 
you ok there lemon? got a brain slug?
 
I posted the same thing as luggage a second after luggage, then the same as you a second after you
!!afk its wrinkling my brain
 
4:52 PM
The "women in combat roles" is much more focused of an argument and less prone to the craziness that the abstract "equality" argument was.
 
lol
 
women shouldn't be in combat roles
 
I perfectly understand what you're saying. But even after all tests and restrictions are passed, the soldier (the female) is assigned to some company. Now chances are, that "she" still is one of the weakest if not the weakest amongst all comrades.
 
and neither should men
 
She might be among the weaker of her team, given the averages, yes. But if she is above the minumum, then.. who cares?
 
4:54 PM
 
@rlemon But...your brain has wrinkles.
 
the 260 lbs soldier which was assigned to her cares @Luggage
if he got wounded
 
Then make that the test.
I agree there are differences, but you can easily make the test "carry out one of the bigger soldiers"
 
I find it fascinating that a bunch of civies are talking about military standards, lol.
 
yes that would make sense, but it is not the reality
 
4:55 PM
There will always be a weakest soldier in any given group.
Woman or otherwise.
 
because then literaly no female would could serve
 
shut up. just shut up.
 
Then that is the reality you should seek to change.
 
hmm, I'm thinking about replacing all my enums with unions of string literal types
 
jesus.
 
4:56 PM
no one should for that matter
 
How is a woman going to carry a fallen soldier on the battlefield?
 
@Waxi We just covered that, now get out
 
@Waxi how would any solider carry any other?
 
wtf
 
haha
 
4:57 PM
@Waxi Unless you've been in the military, I'd just keep your opinions about it to yourself.
 
that escalated quickly
 
Haha what a pleb
 
@Trasiva please don't try the identity politics argument. Waxi was wrong, but not for that.
 
I remember a scene from some shitty movie where they said they tried having female soldiers in battle in the IDF but it wasn't very good because the men had a hard time seeing women die
 
the trolls are gone, everybody else just let it die, please, finally
 
4:58 PM
why I like this one
 
that is no hoax... females are used to calm down heated situations in applied psychology very effectively (just by their presence)
 
Oh shit
> This user has been temporarily suspended by a moderator and cannot chat for 179 days.
 
who is that?
 
wewlad
 
Waxi
 
4:59 PM
waxi
 
lmao
 
why?
 
Thiefmaster for the snipe.
 
179 days?
 
@corvid hey, i spent few hours building building these queries, i think i understand now, thanks
 
4:59 PM
also, women are objectively more fragile than men
 

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