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1:18 AM
I'll try again to get reopen votes for my question here with an argument from @CodyGray:
Looks like another case of people getting hung up on key words. The question is clearly not meant to be subjective or opinion-based. It's asking about the purpose of a very specific code pattern, something that is both reasonably scoped and can be objectively answered. And I don't buy this nonsense about "no one knows but the Java designers". That's true about the meaning of volatile in C#, too.
 
2:17 AM
^ Trying to test Bluefeet hat.
 
Rob
Don't think it works
Neither this (not a flag) nor this triggered it
 
2:32 AM
@StephenLeppik: please delete your comments in that question related to my close votes. It does not have bearing on the issue at hand, and fyi again your initial comment was incorrect as I had already voted to close before making my first comment.
 
@HovercraftFullOfEels Since when do we "blast questioneers off this site" ... ?
 
@Carpetsmoker: true. sorry, he was trying my nerves, and I let it get the better of me.
 
@HovercraftFullOfEels Yeah, he was being a bit of a tool :-/
 
But still, two wrongs...
 
Rob
3:25 AM
Can't undelete something a moderator deleted
you need to flag it
 
3:41 AM
@Rob it was from my review history, I can't flag it. All I can really see is the post body and score.
 
Rob
Flag something with a custom reason, and describe your request (and link) there
 
@cricket_007 Why the rollback :P
 
3:54 AM
CV Queue Below 7k WinterBash Effect?
 
@AndrewLi The generics question? It didn't look like the OP actually benchmarked anything. How I read it: "I need code to run fast. What benefit is achieved using generics, or not? Which is faster?"
 
4:13 AM
@cricket_007 Yeah I flopped. I dunno how I read it wrong
 
 
1 hour later…
5:13 AM
phew first time in a while I did not realize I was having an audit.
 
@FélixGagnon-Grenier I failed my very first audit. I recognized the post... opened the post from the link to refresh my memory, noticed that the audit post was identical with a different user name, so I marked it duplicate. Oops.
 
funny thing is I actually passed it. there was a spurious php tag lagging 'round.
 
Code Review
 
@MikelF ... is just that I actually felt some kind of high alert state when the Congratulations popped out, as normally I'm aware that an audit is going on. tldr is "omg SO made me have an emotion"
 
5:29 AM
@FélixGagnon-Grenier Yeah, I get that jolt too... kind of like seeing the police car up ahead on the side of the freeway and realizing you are going too fast...
 
5:40 AM
One thing about being around here is that I am reminded of how bad code can be.
 
@MikelF Or that stupid questions do exist.
 
@Olaf Looks like it may get me a hat, though... so there is a silver lining. :)
 
@MikelF There is not much to do to get a hat. I got two already and still wonder why.
 
@Olaf I have four... but I am one of those compulsive achievement collectors... it's a curse.
If not for stupid questions I'd have no reputation around here. :)
 
6:27 AM
@πάνταῥεῖ Nathan has pretty much said all there is to say to it
 
6:51 AM
> I'm voting to close this question as off-topic because it's Spam
2
Daily Dose of Facepalm.
=(
 
7:31 AM
ugh.. pictures of code :(
 
Hey @Seth
 
@Magisch Hiya :3
 
Did you hear from the attacks in berlin last night?
It's all everyone in the radio talks about this morning
 
Yes. And also from the assassination of the russian ambassador.
The world is going nuts.
:D
 
Some ****** hijacked a truck, killed the driver and drove straight into a crowd of people
 
7:33 AM
Yep.
 
ffs humanity
 
By now I'd say that's more of a standard then an exception.
 
hi fellow abominables
 
That makes 3 terror attacks just yesterday
what a garbage day
 
Yep. Swiss, Germany, Turkey (Russian embassy)
+ Trump officially won the elections (don't want to start this debate, just fyi)
@user2314737 Hiya :D
 
7:35 AM
your faces look familiar :D
 
My abomination is rather small though :D
 
that's good
 
7:46 AM
@Seth Well... At least it's a "secret" hat. I wonder how many completionists are driven to do terrible things by "achievements" like that in the badge and hat systems. I know those are there to soften the pill for users who do bad things because they don't know the rules yet, but still.
 
@АндрейБеньковский Well, atleast we do not have a hat for posting a spam post yet... =D
But yes, the general purpose of the badge - and temporarily the hat - system is most likely to encourage people to use their tools.
Which can go very wrong (if someone decides to delete his very good answer for a badge).
 
@Seth Are you 100% sure? Do you know every single secret hat?
 
@АндрейБеньковский You got me there =(
 
@Seth Honestly, I feel a bit tempted to click on BhargavRao, avatar and do the bad thing.
 
@АндрейБеньковский The bad thing? ..
 
7:52 AM
@Seth Can we test it without harming anybody? I heard something about @ sandbox.
 
Do you want to flag him? =D
The sandbox isn't good for that, sadly, as the -100 rep penalty as well as the blackmark still apply.
And we don't want that I think
 
@Seth No, downvote. To get the hat. Not going to do this though.
 
@АндрейБеньковский Sure, we can try that out.
I will post an answer, you DV it, and I will delete it.
Let's see if that gets you or me a hat.
 
@Seth Wait.
Can't we make a new account?
 
This works, it's a CW question.
Let's try :P
@АндрейБеньковский The answer
 
7:57 AM
@Seth Spam-flagged it.
 
Nothing wakes you up quite like writing a meta book (answer) about elitism in documentation xD
Goooood morning.
 
Deleted it @АндрейБеньковский
 
8:15 AM
@АндрейБеньковский Didnt seem to do anything. I undeleted it.
Let's see if that does anything.
 
@Seth My flag is pending now. Should I cancel it?
 
Reject / Edit & Approve please. Fixes nothing, leaves 99 problems untouched.
@АндрейБеньковский Yes.
@АндрейБеньковский Suggest an edit to it please :D Add another TEST or sth like that
 
Good morning
 
@kayess Morning :)
@kayess How did you get those hats ò.ó
 
8:21 AM
@АндрейБеньковский Now we wait again...
 
@Seth s3kr3t :D
 
I will delete the post in ~15mins, let's hope that either that gives a hat, or simply editing it does.
@kayess Y u so mean :(
@kayess Meh, don't have 2k rep ._.
 
@Seth to be perfectly honest, I have no clue or better yet I can't remember :D
 
@kayess I know how to get one, but I cannot as I needz more repz
 
@Seth May be it didn't trigger because the post is community wiki.
 
8:25 AM
@АндрейБеньковский Could be
 
@Seth GET MOAR REPZ (C) G-Naki, rene, NO
 
@kayess The original is by gunr I believe :o
He will sue you for breaking copyright O_O
2
 
@Glorfindel o.o
Decides to sneakily delete the answer
Let's see if we get hats for that.
 
8:38 AM
> Huawei's brother, a good share of the next, grateful
Is that spam, NAA or RA?
 
@Seth I think the poster is probably wishing us happy new year.
 
Hiya
 
Hiya
@АндрейБеньковский Could be o:
Google translator isn't as good as I'd like it to be
 
8:53 AM
@Seth, I looked through my recent helpful spam flags and clicked on the profile links. I didn't find any hats. Either there is no hat for posting spam or they opted-out.
 
@АндрейБеньковский there shouldn't be a hat for that. SE would ruin their own sites if that'd be the case
spam is usually posted by 1 rep (unregistered) users, who are nuked when they get caught for spamming
so there'd be no point in giving a hat for that, as they'd have no account left
 
9:10 AM
They'd never make a hat for posting spam
That would be an unbelievably terrible incentive
also nobody with rep would do that since it costs you 100 rep and gets you ip banned for a while
 
@Magisch Now I'm confused. Doesn't your argument apply to the hat for serial downvoting of a moderator?
 
@АндрейБеньковский again, they'd never make a hat for that
hat are an incentive to do good, not to do things which destroy the site
 
lol
 
@Adriaan This comment implies there is a hat for serially downvoting a mod.
 
@АндрейБеньковский That one was actually a joke :D
"Long line hat" => The one-line message stating that the user currently being viewed is suspended for X days
:D
I did not want to cause confusion
@Magisch We tested a few possibilities for hidden hats (like downvoting, deleting, un-deleting, spam-flagging, spam-flagging & deleting etc.)
Nothing worked =( ...
 
9:27 AM
you guys actually did that?
 
@Tunaki We used the sandbox.
We didn't break any policies (I hope) =)
 
uuuuuuuuuuuh
 
^ That doesn't sound good.
 
Morning all ◟₍⁽⁰꒫⁰⁾₎◞❢
 
Hiya @EdChum c:
 
9:29 AM
@Seth Hi
 
@Tunaki Jokes aside, did we mess up there? o.o
 
Hello :)
 
downvoting, deleting, un-deleting, spam-flagging, spam-flagging & deleting or doing similar things to get a hat sounds like abuse to me
 
@Tunaki It was in the sandbox. CW-only, no harm done (I hope).
 
still sounds as abuse to me
 
9:35 AM
Hm. I'm sorry then. I will ask a moderator wether or not my actions crossed the line (I won't do it again either way).
 
AAaaargh! Darth Flower!
*Cowers for Darth Flower*
 
@rene @Tunaki Bhargav thinks that this isn't an issue as the sandbox is there for testing. If you want, I can ask on meta, or try to get an SE employee to assess this situation.
 
@Henders yeah
 
@Seth I'm free to my opinion, I call it abuse. If mods are OK with that, you go ahead. When you post on meta I'll be the first to down vote and bring all my socks to do the same. Oh wait, that IS abuse ...
 
9:50 AM
Thanks @PetterFriberg :)
 
@rene I never said that you cannot call it abuse. But it did sound like it wasn't clear, thus I personally wouldn't have minded having a bit more clarity (i.e. by requesting an official stance on the matter).
 
Let's move on ...
 
Roger.
 
^
 
wow also rene is wearing a hat...
 
9:54 AM
@PetterFriberg I've never seen that mask worn at that angle.
 
It makes it a bit more difficult to do photosynthesis these days ...
 
I made a comment I should perhaps delete stackoverflow.com/questions/41030658/…
 
Didn't even get to flag... grumble
 
@user2314737 yeah too chatty...
 
@user2314737 children should always behave ...
 
10:00 AM
alright it's deleted .. it was just the question saying "I'm new at reacting"
 
@rene Wouldn't that be boring?
 
@Seth no. really. no. It would be heaven ...
 
@rene skip and hope other will delete it ; )
 
@rene Why am I picturing a grandpa flower rene telling people to get off his lawn or stop interrupting his photosynthesis?
 
You don't need to be picturing that. It is reality ...
 
10:14 AM
@Magisch no wounder he is afraid of children
4
 
o/
 
10:31 AM
@BhargavRao: I noticed the Zalgo username was changed. :D
 
you could say zalgo was... unleashed
 
@Cerbrus Indeed it was :)
 
@PatsyIssa Contained, rather.
 
contained didn't fit the pun :P
 
Or exorcised, even.
 
10:34 AM
ô,ô
> By the way, no offense intended, but I'm a bit frightened to read," I have no idea how this works", and "I just spent $10,000" in the same sentence.
Oh boy... Money.SE is quite interesting...
 
@Seth I find this is quite common in software projects
 
@ivarni The person who asked the question spent 10k on gov bonds without knowing anything about the process.
The way it works is that you invest 10k, and in 10 years you get 15k back.
Imagine if that guy would need the yearly interest
=|
I have yet to encounter this in a software project.
I dread the day I do.
 
@Seth Someone bought licenses for the entire Adobe Experience Manager suite without first trying to figure out if it was needed to solve their usecase. It wasn't. We're still implementing it.
So it happens, it just looks slightly different :)
 
^ Haha
 
@ivarni ..
Ouch ..
 
11:16 AM
We wanted a subscription of PHPStorm for a project at work once
and they bought us a visual studio complete thing
without asking apparently they just understood "IDE"
 
o/
 
11:41 AM
@Cerbrus Still not sure of the official policy
 
11:58 AM
I'm voting to close this question as off-topic because it is SPAMMike Nakis 28 secs ago
Sigh.
 
20k
 
@Glorfindel poke him on one of his posts to tell him to red flag instead
or, I could go knock on his door, he's in the village :P
 
I hope he got the ping on this question.
 
5 hours ago, by Seth
> I'm voting to close this question as off-topic because it's Spam
=/
 
I wonder if pings get cleared when the question is deleted even if the person who got the ping can still see the post?
 
12:22 PM
Wow, just got a new secret hat on SE.SE for doing nothing \o/
HAT RAIN
 
Do secret hats tell you what you got them for?
 
Not as far I'm aware, no.
 
12:36 PM
@ColdFire smart ass
:D
 
Morning
 
@MaňishYadav language
@Henders obviously not
Morning NO
 
@ColdFire I'm on the outside looking in. I just see 'This is a secret hat' but I thought it might tell the wearer why they got it...
 
obviously it wont show where you got that from
 
Okay. It wasn't that obvious to me, hence my question :)
 
-_-
 
a wise guy
 
@MaňishYadav socvr.org
 
:D
@ColdFire i m not new here
Nov 23 '15 at 10:25, by maveň
https://github.com/Charcoal-SE/SmokeDetector/wiki/Commands
!!/alive
 
@MaňishYadav Yup
 
12:55 PM
!!/blame
 
@MaňishYadav It's RiggsFolly's fault.
 
1:12 PM
@Glorfindel You ninja'd me... =(
 
@Seth is there a hat for that?
 
@Glorfindel Luckily not =]
 
Code modified by reviewers - I don't have time to look into it. Anyone else?
 
@NisseEngström Not a fan of that edit tbh (might just be me though).
 
plop!
 
1:25 PM
Removes &nbsp/&nbsp 0 , introduces "endwhile".. =/ Meh.
 
@BhargavRao ^
 
@AdrianHHH we can't close questions with an open bounty. You'll need a custom mod flag for that.
 
@dorukayhan do not ping mods for mod actions
 
@NathanOliver on the contrary, @BhargavRao even told me to tell him if some action is required
 
@NisseEngström According to Madara the edit =) Introduces boilerplate code to make it runnable.
 
1:30 PM
@AdrianHHH done
@dorukayhan Please don't
If a mod happens to be available they'll act
But the general way to get in touch with mods is through flags.
 
@kayess maybe only if he's around?
 
@Glorfindel I'm sure he wasn't typing when he wasn't around :o
 
@kayess Generally speaking, please use flags.
The flag queue is also low now, so flags get handled quickly.
 
@MadaraUchiha I do all the time...
 
@kayess Yeah but we have a rule and the rule is don't ping a mod for mod actions. If he is active in the room and wants to know that is one thing but if he is not active then please do not ping
 
1:35 PM
@NathanOliver I know that already... :)
 
So you know but you don't care?
 
@NathanOliver Did I ever broke that rule?
 
oh nvm
 
Yeah
 
I read your previous comment wrong
 
1:35 PM
:))
!!/blame
 
@kayess It's Nisse Engström's fault.
 
I thought I do all the time... was you ping all the time, not flag
 
: D Hands a coffee to @NathanOliver
 
@Glorfindel Thank you for the info on cannot close a Q with a bounty.
 
1:36 PM
@MadaraUchiha Thank you for the quick closure.
 
@kayess That still stands, But I'm away from the mod activities for a week as I've taken a week off. I'm on a holiday :)
 
@kayess drinks coffee
 
@BhargavRao enjoy your holidays
 
If I'm active, I'm usually not doing any job. But I still insist that you flag it first and then ping me.
 
Now that we are done with this, I'm going to rob out to coffee maker box, BRB
Flag First Ping Last approach
 
@BhargavRao that was @Glorfindel's fault.
 
@kayess Assess first, then flag, and never ping :)
 
@NathanOliver Might want to bin this CV since it's Meta locked
 
@Tunaki :)
 
1:56 PM
@Machavity done
 
@NathanOliver Thanks
 
np
afk
 
2:46 PM
Is this "bug" known on LQP audits whenever an audit comes up and you toggle the "show N more comments" it will tell you that some problem happened that the post might got deleted, means it makes the audit even more obvious... stackoverflow.com/review/low-quality-posts/14651531
 
Yes, I've seen it on Meta.
 
Okie thanks @Glor
 
@kayess their response is probably "meh then it's not a bug because then you are paying attention so the audit system is working"
which is their response to every 'audit bug'
 
@TylerH I see, so I assume it's status-refused and is even a :\
Hm, I have just received the "Where in the World?" secret hat after reviewing LQP, used at least 4 of the possible flags
 
oh no, they made a hat for that?
 
2:53 PM
@kayess commenting might trigger Where in the World, as well as up-/downvoting.
 
@kayess nop. I got it as well, haven't done LQP
 
@Glorfindel I haven't voted there, only left code only autocoments where needed
 
I earned where in the world and I haven't been in a queue yet
 
I thought is was triggered due to me visiting another SE site through a link from SO (I went to meta)
 
Autocomments count as comments, apparently.
 
2:54 PM
@Adriaan Well maybe not yeah, I just got the notification after the Q has been cleared out
 
@Glorfindel I think the half-moon is actually awarded when you participate on any site on the 21st of december.
I tried it on 5 different sites.
With different actions.
 
@Seth, yeah, but spam-flagging didn't trigger it.
 
I think it is upvoted comments as that is when the hat triggered for me.
 
@Glorfindel Hmm. I got it for a) downvoting, b) upvoting, c) commenting
 
@NathanOliver I also did that
 
2:56 PM
@kayess Not up voting comments but getting multiple up voted comments.
probably on multiple posts
 
@JAL nice try for hunting secret hats :P
 
JAL
:)
 
Hiya BTW \o
 
JAL
o/
 

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