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12:07 AM
night
 
nite tuna
 
user4639281
@dorukayhan matter doesn't
 
12:44 AM
@Drew I'd say not. He's confused about how to execute the query, not how to set up parameters
CVQ could use a RO cleanup
 
user4639281
1:07 AM
flushing
 
Sam
@Machavity Feel free to ping me if I'm around
 
user4639281
Sorry, got distracted
 
@TinyGiant You were busy wiping before flushing :P
@Sam Thanks
 
1:39 AM
@SmokeDetector facepalm again?
 
@dorukayhan Why? wingding is the training bot? Smokey was right about reporting?
 
 
1 hour later…
JAL
3:02 AM
@Drew voted, thanks, most were already closed
 
JAL
3:22 AM
is that spam or abusive?
(or both)
 
Spam.
Sell ... contact ...
 
JAL
yeah, thinking too much into it
 
Gone.
 
3:38 AM
sd k rude/abusive
 
3:52 AM
@poke if interested some with some delete votes on em 1 , 2 , 3 , 4 , 5 (batch 539)
and 2 del votes now 1 , 2 , 3 (batch 540)
 
user3956566
 
turd polished
can we flag the comment under this one that says "Why does your ... " comment 1. stackoverflow.com/q/38637298
like Not Constructive
 
user3956566
agree, really rude actually
 
@JAL can you try to do something with stackoverflow.com/q/38637298 like the title or something
 
user3956566
 
@YvetteColomb yeah I was thinking that but it could be Ok for the answer. Idk
 
user3956566
4:20 AM
yeh, it's just 18 downvotes. put it all out of misery
 
user4639281
> See this url i thing this help you
 
> can you advice me on that
 
@JarrodRoberson Edited.
 
4:34 AM
What's specky boy?
 
specky boy opened an idli shop
 
5:10 AM
@VanquishedWombat Either way, it's a duplicate of Use jQuery to get text of target
 
5:56 AM
@tripleee @EdChum keep this or delete opinions? stackoverflow.com/q/39282499
 
Drew
 
@Drew not a keeper IMHO
 
That name ^ though :P
 
the latter is effectively a duplicate anyway, though I don't think I can find the earlier equivalent
and the latter has no merit whatsoever IMNSHO
 
user4639281
6:51 AM
> Someone want to install this random executable file on their computer? It's not a virus, I promise.
 
Yeah, sure...
 
Good morning
 
user4639281
The first one was actually a rick roll virus, the second one may or may not also be a rick roll virus
 
I don't fancy ruining my VM yet again
 
user4639281
Night!
 
7:14 AM
make a video of the program and ask people to watch it
well it has a setup. So a 32 bit target or 64. And explanatory notes from msft what it will run on. Such as .net x.y is avail on the following ABC whereas say .net m.n is avail on DEF
There has got to be good doc on the VC++ runtime that all the .net stuff bundles
 
Morning
 
7:32 AM
I recommend setting up a test lab VM wise for Vista, XP, 7,8 10 perhaps Azure. I know they have windows client vs using server products. If that doesn't work then Bizspark has every version of windows and dos. You could create them with a boot mgr
how would having the OS and running your program not allow you to test the UX?
well if you made avail the use of the VM to others you could test their experience.
So you have 2 things here. (1) does it setup and run a certain os (2) people's experience
You can make a VM available. Not your system.
The use of a VM is an instance. They are free to crap it out.
That is what you want or not idk
Right. Do that via a cloud provider that allows for workstation vm's. Historically it has been just server-grade. I believe it was relaxed.
The vm is not on your physical machine west of boston
 
7:48 AM
Hiya
\o
 
so back to my list of 2. You can satisfy your own curiosity for vista and XP. You can determine if the setup works on say all 5 versions. For the 2nd step, you point people to a single VM instance. They can destroy the thing. It will not impact your saved stamped out VM baseline version.
Free? Yes
 
Morning \o
 
@kayess \o
 
close as no MCVE though
 
Yeah, No MCVE is the correct one for that
 
8:06 AM
@QPaysTaxes for just 1000$ you get access to all software they ever and never release. It is cheap.
Well,yeah, if you're on a low budget it might be a substantial amount of money.
All I'm saying it is worth it
 
people never learn
 
I'm too old to learn
 
> Try $obscureindianoutsourcingcompany, they're the best
Meanwhile the guy who posted this as his only answer is listed on the company about page as founder and ceo
like, if you're gonna try and spam, at least take some effort
 
SO effortless
 
@rene 1000$ a year?!
 
8:14 AM
@BhargavRao Hiya \o
 
@Magisch yeah
 
@rene Thats 3 months of salary for me :<
 
But I have 120EUR per month compute on azure for that, among access to all software
 
15 day salary for me :P
 
That would be about half of my salary gone right there.
 
8:16 AM
Two years ago I have bought one year MSDN sub. for like 1000EUR, and they have sent me shitloads of DVD's including everything I will never use
 
I'd rather eat then azure, tho
 
@Magisch yeah, if you're not self-employed make sure your employer pays for it. For them it is peanuts
 
@rene rofl as if
 
@QPaysTaxes Bizspark is free. Join it. It is from msft
 
that ^
Needs a company name and a website
 
8:22 AM
I haven't paid mister softie a cent for over a decade except for hosting stuff, vm
But that is for stuff above and beyond their free monthly allotment that is generous for tinkering around
 
They check if you are a real business and without an website they assume you're not
 
@rene they're not even paying for new usb sticks
IT here doesnt really have a budget
 
@Magisch that sucks then
 
Anything other then "free" for software is unacceptable for end user software
we had to go to bat and back to get the backup software
 
8:40 AM
Hiya
 
Hi!
 
Hi @tuna cat
 
The author of a duplicate question just gave me the "don't close my question just because you don't know the answer" line. \o/
 
@TigerhawkT3 That's usually just the one before "It's not a dupe, my variable has a different name"
 
8:42 AM
@TigerhawkT3 as humorous as it is pointless
 
@TigerhawkT3 That's a classic, maybe you can get some dv too...
 
flag -> not constructive
 
Simple bug with a simple dup, but the asker wants a way to keep the bug in there and salvage things somehow.
 
Well I can't access that.
But blame some proxy somewhere.
 
9:00 AM
you expect me to trust you and run that?
 
Yes
 
let me create something funny to run... lets see where is that crypto stuff I made
 
@Gothdo I see your point but disagree. The op's question should have been 'how to iterate child elements of a known type within a parent with a known id?' Getting to the text attribute was secondary. Its not a duplicate of the post you linked to.
 
Plop!
 
Uuuuh, plo hiya o/
 
9:10 AM
This sort of thing is an example of why I wish there was a way to unfollow posts. &_&
 
9:25 AM
@VanquishedWombat Who cares anyway? It's a very poor question and should be deleted.
 
Hiya @Gothdo, @Kyll, @2naki, @Pet \o
 
Hi
 
o/
 
o/
 
9:27 AM
@TigerhawkT3 just stop responding
 
@Gothdo It will be roomba, if not reopened.
In a month. That leaves a bit of time.
 
@Magisch I keep talking to unreasonable people. How do I have productive discussions? And don't tell me to avoid talking to unreasonable people. :P
 
For delete-pls, do I need 20k?
 
@Thomas Just a good reason, I believe
 
@Thomas Not necessarily, you can delete at 10k
 
9:38 AM
@FOX9000 Should have been approved, editors didn't bother to read the edit description and open the question -_-
 
How do I do that? I have 18k, but there are no links on that question to delete
 
For once, a low-rep OP did good against two reviewers.
 
@Thomas Ah, certain questions require 20k
 
ok, no problem.
 
If they are less than 2 days old, and with a score <= -3
 
9:40 AM
Hang on, did someone say 20k? Are my delete votes needed?
 
:34311152
^ seems I'm very familiar with linking chat messages
 
@Thomas get to 20k asap
 
@TigerhawkT3 Productive discussions require reason and rationality
So other then "Don't talk to unreasonable people for longer then absolutely necessary" there is no dice
 
@BhargavRao Definitely working on that. I'm just not playing the FGITW game
 
@Thomas Play the "Slow Complete and Concise Answerer in the East" game ;)
 
9:44 AM
is it just me or also someone else that gets "Page Not Found" on Thomas user profile
 
@PetterFriberg It's because he is SO007
 
I don't get a Page Not Found, I get a user was deleted :D
It's a chat mess. @Thomas Do you want that to be solved?
 
Nah I think he wants to be really deleted
:p
 
Is this giant how-to guide on how to debug PHP a useful duplicate for anything other than too-broad "how do I debug stuff" or software request "what software should I use to debug stuff" questions?
 
9:49 AM
@Tunaki Get out of chat and go and earn that maven hammer o_o
 
I know! I want it bad :(
 
I should start answering posts soon. :/
 
Y'all talking about hammers meanwhile I'm here on 5k rep like
@BhargavRao What for? You don't need any hammer anymore
Your close vote is a universal hammer now
 
I don't want to use that hammer. That'd amount to #modabuse
 
And using a different hammer wouldn't?
mods close things in egregious circumstances all the time
 
9:52 AM
@BhargavRao couldn't you sudo NormalRao ./dupehammer Qid ?:D
 
@Magisch Nope, That's not mod abuse. I can hammer python dupes even if I'm not a mod.
@Magisch Yep.
@kayess Lol, Sure :D
 
Well you have enough other things to do
I'm pretty sure the flag queue doesnt just run out :p
 
It almost ran out the day before yesterday, when Martijn (and myself) went on a clean the queue drive.
Collectively SO mods handle more than 1.5k flags per day.
 
I can believe it
 
TBH, Whenever Martijn is online, The flag queue is somewhat under control.
 
9:58 AM
How about the focus on CVQ ?:p
 
@BhargavRao You, too can be like Martijn. You have all the powers to do it now.
 
Or to put it in rene's words, "Crazy Dutch Men"
@Magisch Welp, I spend 12 hrs a day on SO and handle the same amount of flags which he does in 2 hrs. ;)
 
you just need to unlock martijn's powers still
 
He's in a completely different league, Ask @Undo :D
Also, If you see me chatting, it's coz he's active :P
 
So what you're saying is if Martijn retires we'll need like 7 people to cover for him
 
10:00 AM
Probably yes.
 
@BhargavRao how do you mean that?
 
@kayess One look and all flags are dead :D
 
@BhargavRao do he have 4 arms ?:D
 
He's an AI. :P
 
I imagine Martijn now sitting in an array of 6 computers and using his multiple extra arms to type fast on all of them
 
10:14 AM
Could just be a squad of highly trained butterflies
 
wow I have a spam/abusive answer on one of my questions and did not even notice... praise SD for killing it quickly...
 
@PetterFriberg tp reports on SO live anywhere from <10s to 3 minutes on SO
rarely longer
 
What ever. Looks like you are hell bent on having your way so I'll leave you to it.
 
@VanquishedWombat What?
 
it's a duplicate issue with Gothdo
 
10:21 AM
Is that about yesterday's dupe?
 
Is this guy calling me an ignoramus and an idiot and hoping to get away with it?
 
@TigerhawkT3 The OP edited "blog" -> "solution". It's all good now... :-D
Or not...
 
Dupehammering a question should include some sort of "thanks for providing a signpost! what a great question!" message so that people don't take it as an insult that their question got closed.
3
Maybe that'd be a good meta question: "How can we soften the blow of the dupehammer?"
 
@TigerhawkT3 Disengage, move on
 
Yeah, flagged and done with that.
 
10:34 AM
@TigerhawkT3 LoL.
 
Plop @Kyll
 
@TigerhawkT3 I want dupe hammers to get rep's... 1 point for finding a good answer!!!!
 
@PetterFriberg But that could potentially be abused, unlike everything else on SO. :P
 
meeh, I don't think so... it's only 1 rep... to compensate all the darn dv you get...
dupe hammering by now is the most important thing to keep SO ok, and it actually provides and answer, so 1 rep seems more then fair... if reopened then you loose it.
 
I generate the rep I need for downvoting unnecessary answers to poor questions by posting unnecessary answers to poor questions answering valuable, unique questions.
 
10:40 AM
would it not be better that you generate rep, finding answers to questions while keeping SO clean and nice...?
by now almost 70% of questions are dupe... and good answers are getting scattered all over the place...
 
I asked a question about that on meta, but it got downvoted and cleaned up.
 
I have prepared a meta, but never posted it... I have to little energy for the meta crowd at this moment...
 
@TigerhawkT3 Some ppl just can't understand abstractions.
 
^ Should be DBA.
^ Fish!
 
@BhargavRao I propose a @Praveen party, before he would reach 100.000 rep, you could suspend his account for a month, at 99.999 :D
It's like happy birthday kicks :p Just joked of course!
 
10:55 AM
Lol, Sure :D
 
throws @kayess on @BhargavRao and kills both
 
@PraveenKumar I hope you have the champagne ready!!!
 
@PetterFriberg I don't. I am a teetotaller.
I still didn't get a 10 even after my last answer.
Okay, I just got a 10. LoL.
 
@BhargavRao LAQ question: I'm reviewing this, of course a quick google search yields this result, without attribution of course
What to do? Mod. flag? I think it's a clear case of plagiarism
 
@kayess Yep, modflag with other and explain the reason. :)
 
11:04 AM
@BhargavRao Dei BR. My flags been banned. Can you tell when the ban will be lifted? Should I just wait? :P
#BadThingsHappening
 
Nope, I can't tell that as access to flag history, etc is logged. You just gotta wait.
 
@BhargavRao Okay, will wait.
But how long?
 
@BhargavRao done
 
^ LoL. Wut?
 
@BhargavRao Flag dealt with.
 
11:14 AM
Yup
 
LoL. That cat was BR.
 
@Tiger Solved that dupe issue.
@Mag, As we discussed in morning, Here we see a case where I don't need the mod hammer stackoverflow.com/posts/40861301/revisions :D
 
@BhargavRao \o/
 
@BhargavRao I don't see this is a good idea. In Python, names are only references, they don't even represent the object. What if you have two names referencing the same object (which is very common)? Imo that's what OP does not understand.
 
Okay, apparently "solved" means "flag declined, my comments removed, OP's insulting comments retained, dupe unhammered, equally hacky and unreliable dupe rehammered, OP emphasizes how bad my dupe was and how good the new one is."
 
11:28 AM
Parse.com still not dead?
 
Not really the result I was expecting, I must say.
 
@TigerhawkT3: Wait, it was not you deleting your comments? Without any judging, that leaves quite a lot of the other comments without any context. If not for being insulting (I'm not surea bout that), they should be removed as pointless now.
 
^ Seriously? :( (my last CV)
Unclear, as well.
 
@Olaf Yeah, wasn't me. I dupehammered something, OP insulted me for it, my comments were nuked, the dupe was changed to an equally useful/useless one, and the OP expressed his thanks for helping get rid of that darn TigerhawkT3 and his useless dupe.
 
meeh it's duped... lets move to next one
 
11:35 AM
"seriously, what can't you understand" and "Many frameworks need the name of a property/method to do their jobs, maybe your're not aware of" are apparently polite discourse, while "some objects have a name, and you can access it with __name__, but others don't" is unacceptable.
 
@TigerhawkT3 I still miss a "question does not make sense in this context" close-reason. That would be the best solution imo.
 
All I want is to be listened to and treated with respect.
 
Nice username. :D
 
@Kyll So I raised a query with @Gothdo about a question he had duped yesterday and he seems adamant that it should stay. I think otherwise. I don't want to start a fight over it, but assuming that SO is about community then it should not be for those who are 'expert' to pull up the ladder after themselves and leave people who know less with a more difficult path to learning. The dup is wrong. Thanks for asking.
 
Is it possible to flag a declined flag?
 
11:44 AM
@VanquishedWombat you can always flag it for re-opening... here no ones is right or wrong
 
Maybe I'm under some sort of hellban?
 
@TigerhawkT3 Why not just move one... and find next dupe : )
 
@PetterFriberg Because I dupehammer and people shout at me and nuke my comments and decline my flag asking for help...
 
@TigerhawkT3 Yeah that's why you should get rep...
 
^^^ Code posted as image!!! :( :( :(
 
11:55 AM
@PetterFriberg Answering questions generally gets a much more positive response compared to dupehammering. I'm going to try that for a while.
 
@EdChum that doesn't even include the question, we should find it ourselves
 
@user2314737 sorry what do you mean by find it ourselves?
 
@user2314737 Migrate to freelancer.com
 
@TigerhawkT3 Honestly: I don't think they are overly unpolite. All a matter of context. I used them myself if the other seems to be really stubborn. In dubio pro reo, OP might have the same impression of you. Disclaimer: That's not what I think! Just try to see both sides. Whatever, if I had comments removed, normally also other comments were deleted, just because they lost context.
 
12:00 PM
@PraveenKumar is that that place where people work for free :D
 
@user2314737 Did I say free?
 
@Olaf It's not what I think either, which is why I just got 20 rep for answering a really common dup.
I just got one of my comments on a dup answer from earlier today regurgitated back at me on my recent dup answer. =D
 
100k! :D
11
 
Sam
12:29 PM
 
hiya @Sam \o
 
Sam
hey o/
 
howdy \o
 
Morning
@Yam cc @PraveenKumar MCVE now?
 
@NathanOliver o/
 
12:42 PM
Morning
 
:D
 
@PraveenKumar congratulations \o/
 
@PraveenKumar Nice!
 
@PraveenKumar Well, you did work for it, I give you that...
 
12:46 PM
So, if I delete my upvoted almost 2 years old answer I keep reputation gained from it? Interesting.
 
@DalijaPrasnikar rep that's 60+ days old is kept
 
how is that spam @AshishAhuja ^^
 
in Charcoal HQ on The Stack Exchange Network Chat, 1 min ago, by Ashish Ahuja
!!/report http://serverfault.com/questions/65265/finding-why-a-user-is-locked-out-in-activ‌​e-directory/817649#817649 http://stackoverflow.com/questions/35177512/hypervisor-is-not-running/40863903#4‌​0863903
^ see around that
the user is spamming cross-site
 
Mah is just a blog
And they edited
The info is there
 
well but posting the same link across sites is spam. User since today
 
12:51 PM
@Cerbrus Welcome to SO? :P
 
I may be missing info here, but, to me, a post that was edited to contain all the info was just nuked
and the OP banned
I have things on fire at work, but I'm tempted to raise a mod flag there to look into it
 
hmm maybe the user should have been given a chance, but all the indicators are going against them.
 
@Adriaan I'm not very inclined to delete that, tbh.
On the other hand, question ban, might not be bad
(gone)
 
@Cerbrus Why not? Because the OP wants it gone?
 
@Louis Basically. But that's just my gut feeling. Something I shouldn't always listen to.
waffles
@PraveenKumar Try again. This time by not answering dupes.
 
12:58 PM
@Cerbrus I see the OP's desire as irrelevant. On the one hand we won't delete a question only because the OP wants it gone. On the other hand if the Q would be one that would otherwise be one I'd delete, I'll just vote to delete. If the OP gets his/her/its wish due to quality control, then so be it.
 
> "Something I shouldn't always listen to."
Note that I did delete-vote it.
 
Yeah, got it. I was not giving you a lecture but explaining my reasoning. :)
 

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