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9:00 PM
oh haha ok. That's what you meant
 
wim
@idjaw agree
 
it really is a good question
I rarely upvote new questions...
 
@tristan I had the pleasure of spending the weekend with some people who had a giant pyrenees.
 
user559633
it makes me feel like a bad person to get a puppy, but i have two shelter cats, so i guess that breaks even?
 
9:01 PM
@tristan ?
 
user6568562
@wim The flatten idea is damn cool
 
which part should make you feel bad? Many people accept cats as companions.
 
user6568562
Laters everybody [ :
 
wim
 
@randomhopeful rbrb
@wim now that's cruel
 
9:03 PM
wim's solution is lacking potatoes. But other than that, a great solution.
 
wim
hehe
ok I also have this one
 
user559633
@AndrasDeak that's a good comic
 
wim
 
user559633
@AndrasDeak older dogs don't get adopted as often
 
9:04 PM
you want to adopt a pupper?
when you adopt, you do more than can be expected from anybody:)
And frankly, while I agree with the philosophy of choosing sheltered animals, many adult dogs are scarred for life that is really hard if not impossible to compensate. Especially for a first dog.
 
thoughts on naming a method "raise_if_user_not_found" in a system test?
I just feel like I have too much code in the method I need to modify, I want to put it in a different method.
but I just find the name...weird.
 
user559633
does it raise an exception?
 
yes
 
user559633
then a+++ would know what it does again
 
stamped for approval. On with the show
thanks
 
user559633
9:06 PM
@AndrasDeak yeah, definitely adopt.
 
Most ex-shelter doggos I know have behaviour issues, and I don't mean pee-on-the-rug but aggressive behaviour:/ With proper care at least some can probably be healed, but there's no guarantee and I don't think that's likely to happen with a first dog. So choosing a pup for first pooch sounds a very good idea if you ask me:) Don't be hard on yourself.
 
user559633
Oh, I volunteered for years at shelters
 
I guess that helps:P
 
user559633
We'll probably get a mutt :)
 
well it's already a gamble with a sheltered pup, right?:)
Not in every case, I know. But if mommy's unkown.
oh, and daddy:D
 
user559633
9:09 PM
meh, unless it's a jerk breed, puppies are typically predictable
 
Guys how can I write the following instruction in one line using list comprehension : Get items with "part_1" or "part_2" for each item in itemList . ? I'm trying to practice a bit on this subject, but sometimes I get stuck with logic . So I'd appreciate if someone could explain me a bit and provide how to do it :) .
 
@AnisSouames first do it with a proper loop
then you should worry about listcomping it
 
@Andras I did it with a normal "multi-line" for loop . :)
 
that's how I'd practice
 
I'm not very knowledgeable with the dog-breed character traits. Are there certain breeds that are best to avoid, just because of their unappealing character traits?
e.g. aggressive, lazy, etc
 
9:10 PM
@idjaw nope
 
so dogs >> humans
great.
 
breeds are cool, incompetent/sleazy breeders and idiotic owners lead to aggressive dogs
 
Rick and Morty were on to something
 
You can breed dogs to be aggressive, and many fighting breeds have a bad name for this very reason. But proper breeders breed proper dogs, who are darlings.
Properly bred pitbulls are great with kids, and insanely friendly:)
 
user559633
@idjaw ehh, shibas tend to be d*cks. small toy breeds can be unpredictable. spaniels can be a concern too
 
9:12 PM
@AnisSouames The best advice for being more natural with comprehensions when you are first learning comprehensions. Never do comprehensions first. Explode it by doing it line by line. Look at it carefully and understand what it does, and then understand how a comprehension works and then start trying to make a comprehension
 
user559633
yeah pitbulls are great dogs for families
 
@idjaw typical breed character traits are more along the lines of "stubborn" and "highly intelligent"
for instance, a terrier is more likely to take a dump on what you want, they're usually on their own when working
 
@tristan that reminds me. Not the first time I heard small dogs have unpredictable behaviour that can lean to the more aggressive/obnoxious side.
 
and shepherd breeds tend to be more intelligent
 
user559633
yeah. shepherds/working dogs/retrievers are typically on the brighter side
 
9:15 PM
for instance, the puli (a.k.a. that funny Hungarian breed that looks like a mop, the smaller one) is really smart, but it has strong instinct to herd. And it herds sheep by nipping at their legs. So if you throw a BBQ party, your guests are likely to be herded by the dog, and unless you train your dog well, the guests might get a nip or two in the process:D
 
For small dogs, I always liked Boston Terriers.
 
I know one of those, he's cool
 
Hungarian dog breed? Is that the one that looks like a giant mop?
 
@idjaw no the other one:P
 
hahah...I have to admit, I laughed when I saw it.
but that is because this is the picture I saw
 
9:17 PM
Funny, but I don't think of Boston Terriers as "small dogs". Even though they are the same size or even smaller than a big yorkie, the latter (at least where I live) are much more likely to be little overcompensating douche bags
@idjaw yup, I think that's the big one, a komondor
 
is it normal to let their fur grow long like that? Or is that more for show?
 
puli < komondor, both are mops
@idjaw protects against wolves
 
oh, neat!
 
Disclaimer which you might expect by now: I'm in no way a dog breed expert:P
although my knowledge of dogs might be more extensive than my knowledge of python, dunno
 
more than mine, which is good enough for me.
 
user559633
9:22 PM
 
user559633
dogblimp
 
and looking way back from this morning's conversation. Considering all the different IDE's I have been using over the past years, IntelliJ (and the rest of its ilk), are good. Like all other software, it has its kinks. But overall, it's hard to hate it.
 
fortunately I almost never see these breeds in the city (they'd need a lot of exercise, so I'm glad people don't get them)
 
Why is that mop flying
 
9:23 PM
That's not a mop. That's a dog. </serious>
hmmm..that was funnier in my head
 
@SterlingArcher located a forcefully settled immigrant, taking pursuit
 
Look me in the textbox and tell me that's not a mop
 
did you hear me? I just yelled as loud as I could
 
you need to lean closer to the microphone, sir
 
Right in the pixels
 
9:30 PM
If Hillary were to become president, would Bill be the First Lord? The First Gentleman?
 
The First Man
I have no idea
 
no, Hillary would become the First Lady [president]
 
Hmm...so the system explicitly acknowledges that the women rule anyway.
I like it:)
Does anybody know if Fizzy's OK? I just saw him leave, then remembered I haven't seen him around recently, and he seems to have been inactive for the past 10 days.
 
user559633
I assume he's still on vacation
 
oooh, that would explain it:P
I missed that, thanks
 
user559633
9:43 PM
no worries -- i could be wrong though
 
yup, he probably is
I feel like I should be doing something pseudo-productive, but it's midnight soon
supper and sleep would be a wiser course of action
 
user559633
it would be. i'm going to hop offline too. have a good night
 
you too, take care
 
take care @tristan
 
cbg
recbg
> by replacing our source map handling with a Rust module that we interface with from Python.
I'm sure you saw that, but for those that see the tweet on the starboard...
they just yanked the slow parts out and stuck 'em in rust. Instead of C.
(or cython, or whatever)
 
9:52 PM
They already had a Rust sourcemap parser.
But yes, the point is that Rust was basically as easy to interface with as C with Python/CFFI.
 
hah. Nice - they actually wrapped the rust in a C shim
> We chose to compile our crate into a dylib and to provide some good ol’ C functions, exposed to Python through CFFI and C headers. With the headers, CFFI generates a tiny shim that can call out into Rust. From there, libsourcemap can open a dynamically shared library that is generated from Rust at runtime.
> since we’re Sentry, we started with the ability to forward exceptions
Does that mean what I think it means, that they catch Rust exceptions in Python?
 
Armin was talking about improving the Rust integration so that the C shim wasn't needed. I'm sure Rust is interested.
 
No doubt
There was a really interesting thing I came across recently - some fancy Python JSON lib that's written in C, I guess, so it's super fast (comparatively). I'm curious what the performance would be compared to their Rust stuff.
 
10:08 PM
To be slightly pedantic-- Rust doesn't have "Exceptions". It has Result<> types and panics. Panics you can capture and handle at thread boundaries, and Results are an enumerated type
 
Also, unless I'm misunderstanding-- the only C written was the header files. With #[no_mangle] you get the rust compiler to emit a library with a C compatible ABI.
 
10:38 PM
yeah, that's what it sounded like to me
knowing exactly no rust, I only know what I read in the article
 
It's a fun language, perhaps you should! :D
 
There's other discussion on Twitter that mentions a lot of what you're saying.
 
Q. Why did the python programmer have crooked teeth? A. No braces. #dadjokes #programming
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10:58 PM
somebody unstarred my doggo comic link:( Sad world we live in
heeeey:D
that doesn't help my cause at all
 
@wim I wonder if the rate of upvotes your question is getting are people who
a) like the question and have no idea why
b ) like the question know why and are writing a good answer
I'm thinking the former, save for maybe a couple of those upvotes...looking forward to seeing the answer to that
 
wim
I don't know why. I'm sure prime number user would know ..
Martijn must need a reboot, otherwise he would have answered by now
 
how do you refresh Martijn's service?
 
wim
 
bzzzzzzzzz
 
11:13 PM
cbg, Antti
and rhubarb from me
 
rbrb @AndrasDeak
 
@AndrasDeak oops, my bad, I clicked the link while doing some cleaning and forgot to unselect it. Post the pic, it could use a star.
 

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