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5:00 PM
Yeah @Braiam we like you to know what you just did ...
 
closey really likes to to let you know what you are doing. cc @gunr2171 @Sam
 
@Braiam I've noticed you've started reviewing! I'll update your session record.
 
When you're done, can you do some reviews? @Braiam we're not sure if you have started.
 
Sam
@Clo stop bot
 
@Sam I'm shutting down...
Shutting down. (Sam's Backup Server)
 
5:01 PM
spoils all the fun ...
 
And people are worried machines will take over the world
 
> My ISP blocks port 80
that's freaking moronic! Change ISP
 
5:15 PM
Not sure why the OP couldn't delete it but it is done now.
 
@Braiam Incoming, probably?
No way they're blocking it outgoing.
 
I was sure there was a tripleee message just below mine... wth?
that title is horrible...
 
Oh I know the answer: Enzyme + JSDOM + Nock - Network error = PROBLEM
 
isn't + Network error?
without the network error there wouldn't be problems, right?
 
Good point :)
 
5:34 PM
@Magisch Yeah, sorry about that. Kinda busy these days...
Plop everyone!
 
yo!
 
@kyll Are you a bot or not?
 
he's not a bot, he's a squirrel with a spear
 
@πάνταῥεῖ You have to be sudo to run this command
 
@πάνταῥεῖ He's a not.
 
5:38 PM
@gunr2171 I always thought so, but now I'm alienated
 
"DEAD"? rather than TIPS?
 
@πάνταῥεῖ Everyone here is a bot. Are you implying that you're not?
 
@NisseEngström I'm not a bot. Just a drunken wanker :)
 
@Rizier123 The Ministry on good days :)
cc @Sam
 
5:40 PM
Anyone here who can kick the human?
5
 
Filthy organic material.
 
^ :P
 
@NisseEngström Trolling away :(
< Goes to build their cockroach bot right now (well maybe tomorrow)
 
@πάνταῥεῖ You certainly are.
 
5:46 PM
@NisseEngström Funny
 
hum, so in meta smoke I'm back to 1 feedback item
 
Yeah, some gub.
 
@gunr How's it going about your new job? Still bothering with the CVS?
 
good, and yes
slowly getting up to speed
yeah, friday I had a meeting to show off what I've done to the Product Owners. However another developer, a person on the conference call made changes to the page and didn't bother to tell me I didn't have the latest code until I went to show it off.
 
@gunr You can be working productive even with fishy bases, but you should report that at some point of time anyways.
 
5:59 PM
what, that we should improve our source control tools?
 
@gunr2171 As what you've been reporting I think so (but you're already saying we, that's a good sign)
 
for now I'm just going to wait and be patient until someone starts talking about git.
I'm already doing tests myself to see how hard it is to convert TFVC to git
(with history)
 
@Machavity waiting for them to come back from damn vacation... it's been 3 weeks
web comic artists can't make that much money to afford a long vacation...
 
we switched from SVN to git some years back. Much better system.
 
Simply using SVN would improve a lot IMO
 
6:04 PM
@Machavity the only SVN system I ever used was when I worked as an editor for an e-zine several years back. We used TortoiseSVN
 
@TylerH I still use its cousin, TortoiseGit
 
I think we've been sorting out some certain non bots right now :)
 
I normally give up when I have to push to a svn repo...
 
@πάνταῥεῖ at my first job I switched us from Source Safe to SVN, it was a much welcome chance. However, now that I know git I would not recommend SVN
 
@Braiam You probably need to merge from some branch :)
@gunr2171 Yeah finally GIT covers the more situations intrinsically already, that's right.
 
6:08 PM
@πάνταῥεῖ Kyll is the alpha and the omega. The cult of @Kyll is weird and unexplainable.
 
@Magisch All his followers are nuts
 
I see what you did there
 
@Magisch Hmm, rodents myth. You know about the duncton chronlicles?
@Machavity I love that squirrel from the Ice Age films. So funny :D
 
wow, huge jquery bounty... stackoverflow.com/questions/38922204/…
 
@gunr2171 I'm too intelligent to be confused being a bot ;P ...
 
6:20 PM
guy probably really hated how his CSS looked
makes sense
 
Not really a moderate meta Q but why would a mod close a question on meta that should have been asked on SO and not delete it?
 
@NathanOliver So that another mod can delete it :P
 
@NathanOliver note that we don't moderate meta :-)
 
@NathanOliver that are the users with those pesky diamonds, right?
 
6:28 PM
Yes. Those pesky diamonds that always want scooby snacks.
 
@Rizier123 Yes backing up on other mods seems to make sense.
 
@Closey start event
@closey?
@Closey????
 
sam killed it off when it started pinging braiam a lot
 
@CLOSEY!!!!!!!!
4
@gunr2171 well, it didn't bother me, did it ...
 
pulls out gun SAY CLOSEY AGAIN, SAY CLOSEY AGAIN, I DARE YOU, I DOUBLE DARE YOU
 
6:33 PM
@gunr2171 Right now I picture you as Will Smith in Hancock when people call him a (psycho in the clean version)
 
@gunr2171 @Closey commands
 
@NathanOliver that's probably a movie that I haven't seen :(
 
@gunr2171 I remember that is on netflix
 
Anyway, we're on
 
@gunr2171 Ohhh you missed a lot (of fun)
 
6:34 PM
WHAT?!? How have you not seen that? I know what you have to do tonight ;)
 
meh
 
shhh! gunr has another meeting tonight...
 
@gunr2171 There are better options right now at hand of course, but you should inform yourself about that once upon a time.
 
well, by "meeting tonight" it's "go to the grocery store because I have no food"
 
6:37 PM
@Closey Open the pod bay doors please
 
@gunr2171 No need for condoms?
 
.....no
 
@πάνταῥεῖ we're not all like you ...
 
@gunr2171 Sounds boring a bit, but well who am I telling you. Same here ...
 
updated the progress report
 
6:38 PM
we talk food ...
 
Fun Fact: A record number of condoms were handed out at the RIO 2016 Olympic Games.
 
I'm out of cv's, I did my part today for godaddy
 
@rene You don't need to like me, rather bearing is good enough ;)
 
@NathanOliver I'm guessing it took the record from the last olympics
 
@NathanOliver who won that Gold medal?
 
6:38 PM
IDK
 
yeah, I have some closevotes, but I'm reserving them for the dark hours
 
@rene Trojan
 
the poll vault
<and back to work>
 
I'm completely out of votes for today.
 
@Braiam Hoarder
 
6:39 PM
I'm working on godaddy right now
 
@gunr2171 fierljeppen?
 
@rene Sounds like in the c++ lounge
 
hun, cool (rene)
 
more or less the same activity
 
6:41 PM
@πάνταῥεῖ I'm very much aware we are close to an edge I don't want to cross ...
 
yeah, and for once I'm not helping
 
@rene No fears. We'll not discuss C++ here
 
noooooooooooooooooooooooooo
 
@rene I don't want to cross there. It would destroy much of what I've been appreciating when joining here.
 
well good luck on the queue you guys, I'll be afk for a bit
 
6:43 PM
Laterz
 
@Machavity that will save this room ...
 
s/I'll be afk for a bit/I'll be in a meeting/
 
@Braiam you found the pattern
oh, that was an unintentional pun
 
@NathanOliver Do they discuss c++ in the c++ lounge ever?? I found evidence rarely, mostly they're discussing haskell, or jokes about eucalizing something else :P
 
@πάνταῥεῖ It happens but you have to be very, very quite otherwise you will scare the question away.
 
6:46 PM
@πάνταῥεῖ I thought the C in Lounge C++ stood for cesspool
 
@Machavity Well, its a bit like in the tavern, you're heading for the full mess.
 
@πάνταῥεῖ Just a FYI we try not to do delete request for post that will be automatically deleted.
 
I knew posting that Meta would start a reopen war @Tyler =p
 
> Too many errors, none of them to do with the problem you're reporting. -- juanchopanza
 
@NathanOliver Seems to be a waste yes.
 
6:51 PM
I voted this time but normally it is a waste. Especially when we can use those delete votes in godaddy.
 
if anyone has recommendations in how to improve this codereview.stackexchange.com/q/138773/41686, you can also use it if you find it useful. I plan to replace the old one.
now I need to procrastinate in something else... like the inform I have to hand at the start of the semester
@dorukayhan why should that be reported?
 
@SmokeDetector OH GOD WHY
 
is deleted...
 
savage
 
I ran out of godaddy Q's in the queue.
 
6:56 PM
most are dead or dying
 
turns out what i tried to report was actually an audit in triage
 
heh heh heh
 
That makes sense.
 
I'm not yet familiar with the godaddy protocol here. How does it work?
 
kill it
 
7:00 PM
@πάνταῥεῖ Well here is the progress and this is our process.
 
@πάνταῥεῖ also background: meta.stackoverflow.com/a/250934/578411
 
btw how can i be able to report posts to smokedetector?
 
Ah I see, it's about tags :P
 
@dorukayhan from this room you'll need 1K rep but the folks over at charcoal HQ don't have restrictions I believe.
 
@rene k
 
7:04 PM
@Kyll it got closed again so meh
 
burninate?
 
Why?
 
@JanDvorak i think it's a better idea to make a synonym of than burninating it outright
 
Doesn't seem to be a useful tag, either one.
 
@JanDvorak What hinders you asking at MSO then?
 
7:09 PM
They seem to identify poor questions, too
@πάνταῥεῖ I'm currently looking up the correct procedure. I also want to get some pre-consensus.
 
@JanDvorak Looks like, so again what I said above?
@JanDvorak Oh you're a very precautious person :)
 
Is that a bad thing?
 
doh
@SmokeDetector commands
 
@JanDvorak Not necessarily
 
!!/lick
 
7:16 PM
@Compass licks ice cream cone
 
Ah, so that is how I interact with it.
!!/amiprivileged
 
@Compass No, you are not a privileged user. See the Privileges wiki page for information on what privileges are and what is expected.
 
that escalated quickly
is there a rep for SD privileges?
I can CV just fine but he doesn't like me <.<
 
OK, I'm starting to get the vibe that the tag isn't really worth removing...
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A: When to burninate

Shog9Before you start doing anything, put a little bit of thought into the request: Does this tag even need to be burninated? There are a lot of burninate-requests posted to various meta sites that are... To put it gently... A complete and utter waste of everyone's time. Some folks will seemingly p...

 
godaddy as a tag, you mean?
it's a pretty bad tag
 
7:19 PM
Kinda meshes well with that I've mostly given up on the entire "moderation" thing.
 
Unlike most other burn-reqs, this one is like a festering boil rather than a tiny wart.
I mean, if you're burned out, take a break. This isn't Pokemon Go <.<
 
@πάνταῥεῖ o.O
 
Yeah, I was wondering if @πάνταῥεῖ's message would survive a flag...
I think not
 
@JanDvorak Intentional, didn't care ...
 
7:22 PM
@πάνταῥεῖ I trashed your message about SD. Lets keep it clean
 
hmmm
i cannot for the life of me find the source of this magic in my code
 
@NathanOliver That's just fine :)
 
@Compass We blame TinyGiant for magic.
 
i found it
remarkably not magic
 
I'm convinced that ChatExchange is mostly magic. If it ever breaks we're going to have to drag ManishEarth back to fix it.
 
7:27 PM
isnt this basically a fancy IRC front-end?
 
Chat? Noooooo
 
if it isnt
then this is literally magic
 
@Compass for SD privileges from this room you need at least 1K. Let me know if you want to be added
 
sure that's fine
 
@undo We can always easily break it with some irregular behavior. I wish I could apply that on the politics going on world wide :P
 
7:29 PM
I've got it, no need @rene.
 
Hello all
 
Hello
 
@πάνταῥεῖ hi. Did you by any chance get my ping?
 
@FirstStep Hiya
 
:D
 
7:30 PM
@undo ah, Ok, thx
 
@FirstStep Nope, it was probably drowned within other pings
 
evening...
 
@PetterFriberg Hi petter \o
 
I need some help.. ://
 
ok>
 
7:32 PM
need-help:// should be a new supported protocol in any browser. It should redirect you to Yahoo! Answers...
 
@FirstStep I've seen that now. I'm not sure if I want to participate there :/
 
huehue
so.
reserving a hotel 1 year in advance is remarkably pain free.
 
@Compass done, note that we reserve the right to take it away at any time for any reason.
 
It is cool. I will see what I can do
@πάνταῥεῖ
 
okie
 
7:34 PM
@Compass But maybe unnecessarily costly (regarding the extra fees)
 
and we need your first payment ... soon ...
 
we accept payment in most forms. Cash, check, credit card, first born's soul...
 
or two second-born souls
 
@TylerH I prefer blood and souls ;)
 
7:36 PM
huh
do you accept giant plushies?
 
@undo I don't like persons deferring their dues to their descendants. That's unfair!
 
@undo probably still too broad I'm thinking
 
@Compass Seen that already today, you're going to bore me :P
 
it is a payment method
 
7:40 PM
@undo Still unclear to me. Tyler already has a comment about my confusion.
 
@Compass None of one that's acceptable from my side, period!
 
@NathanOliver Thanks
 
my dog accepts the meat plush
 
whoa, just got deja vu from those last 5 comments
 
@TylerH Likely
 
7:43 PM
i believe we talked about the meat this morning too
 
@undo It doesn't look good stackoverflow.com/questions/38939666/…
 
I'm going to go ahead and blame the question
 
@JanDvorak You're probably right.
 
user gone
one more vote for the question needed
 
7:59 PM
closed
a little slow on the uptake, migraine is going bzzzzt in my head at almost no pain but killing my focus ._.
 
-_-
user asks me to require validation on these forms... so I do. Now she's complaining "this form gives me this error every time I try to fill out this field" and the error is "please ensure that the date is in format mm/dd/yy"
like, can she read?
 
Welcome to business users.
 
Why you mixed endian?
 
What's this? You want MS Access, only without the Microsoft part? Sure, that sounds like a fun project for a Java Developer.
 
@TylerH Maybe she wanted to you to verify it is a person and not that they filled out the form correctly ;)
 
8:04 PM
@TylerH PEBKAC?
 
I made a GUI database editor in Java, alone ._.
 
@Compass Clap, clap (slowly more)
 
Problem exists in nonsensical propriatery US date formats.
 
@JanDvorak An unfortunate coincidence may be :P
 
@JanDvorak nah same as imperial, our system is more useful in day to day accountings
 
8:08 PM
How?
 
well for dates, if you start with the day, it could be any of 12 months so that's not very useful
to go through dates "left to right" if you were to start with days then there could be 365 steps to part 1
with month first there's only 12 steps to part 1
 
I can live with the three letter abbreviations
 
likewise 28-31 steps in part 2
 
I can see the point of month before date, but then let's extend this to years, too
 
just do yyyyMMMdd
Then I can sort as strings.
 
8:11 PM
hence the ISO suggestion of yyyy-MM-dd
 
@JanDvorak yes, for strings and official records
but I'm talking a day-to-day accounting/use of the term
so "what's most likely to be the useful info in this string"
 
i do not enjoy writing java to sort your documents numbered in ddMMyyyy
 
You don't have to write the way you talk
 
if I'm talking to someone about an event that's upcoming or recently past, it's safe to assume it is in the same year
 
21st of May, 2016 is acceptable
for signature <.<
for hard data, especially date entry, even if it's convention, making them do YYYYMMMDD will at least make them try to put it in the right order.
 
8:13 PM
so if I am talking about an event on September 7th, most of the time people will assume I mean 2016 because that's what year we're in. If it's a different year or if we're at the very beginning or end of a year, we can specify
@Compass never YYYYMMMDD
then you're mixing text and numbers
 
As long as you spell out the words, my brain can parse anything. If you join three numbers with slashes, you're being ambiguous, and that's bad.
 
too many Ms*
YYYYMMDD
 
I like the dashes in YYYY-MM-DD. Makes things easier to read.
 
at least we can all agree that tabs instead of spaces are right out ;-)
 
@TylerH use soft tabs
And, of course, in a database you should be using Unix time.
 
8:16 PM
@JanDvorak Use soft pills :P
 
!!/amiprivileged
 
I think it's "choose sex" as in gender
 
@Compass Yes, you are a privileged user.
 
oops my bad <.<
 
dammit, bot!
 
8:19 PM
yeah
also weight loss
damn i gud :v
 
ah, right
 
That question still sucks, though
 
@JanDvorak pfft, unix
windows or bust
 
I'm tempted to found the "learn UNIX time" movement. Off with this duodecimal time nonsense. Off with time zones. "seconds since 1900-01-01" is perfectly unambiguous and hence should be use in everyday conversation.
 
@JanDvorak yes but approximately one hour after 1900-01-01 00:00, the number becomes so large that it doesn't mean anything to people anymore
"what's the current unix time?" "1471292758"
great if you're a robot
 
8:25 PM
So instead we use 201608152025Z
 
@JanDvorak that is difficult to read and again 2025 is not an efficient way to tell time
 
@TylerH @JanDvorak is a robot? It's going weirder and weirder :P
 
I mean the army uses it because they're weird
 
I'm an off-duty robot owl grammar nazi of human descent (which means at least one member of my ancestry is/was a human).
 
luckily the human brain is immensely powerful and is capable of incredible intuition, so most of the time saying "7:30" in response to "when are you eating dinner" is all that's necessary :-)
No need for 201608151930
 
8:28 PM
Yuck for written 12-hour format.
 
dat onebox
 
Yep, "wenger" could easily be misread.
 
@TylerH Note the weight :)
 
That thing doesn't look very portable, even mit Schatulle.
 
@JanDvorak Note the weight :)
 
8:31 PM
even when folded
 
@JanDvorak Folding doesn't reduce weight :P
 
It's even heavier than my toaster.
 
@πάνταῥεῖ imgur.com/a/qVtvK <- For the french people here :P
 
Technically folding increases weight because it reduces air buoyancy. It doesn't have the slightest effect on mass, though.
 
@JanDvorak Your toaster probably has less features. (I'm not even sure if that one has a toaster integrated)
 
8:34 PM
Wait, no, it doesn't reduce buoyancy.
 
it weighs the same folded or not folded
that is, it's remarkably heavy
 
The only truly remarkable thing is a whiteboard - you can write on it as soon as you clean it.
 
i think what you mean
is that you can write on a whiteboard while cleaning it
or a chalkboard
 
@Compass The best thing is to make false corrections on a whiteboard after a meeting, rather than cleaning it, and see your competitives fail miserably about it :)
 
8:39 PM
Anyways... time for a NMS LP.
 
o.O
 
@Compass I'm that kinda mean yes ;)
 
@JanDvorak who ya watching?
Nagidal?
 
@Compass It works incredibly well BTW.
@JanDvorak As mentioned
 
Just my usual group. EnterElysium, Quill18, ConflictNerdDylan, Zisteau - I think that's all of those I watch that post NMS vidos.
 
8:46 PM
@Tuna Finally sending you teh thing
 
@Kyll Teh mean cockroach is in, yeah!
 
@πάνταῥεῖ Nuuuh not u againz
 
1 message moved to Trash can
1 message moved to Trash can
 
@Kyll I'm ubiquitous, just like you.
 
guys, it isn't because there are no RO that everyone is allowed to have fun
 
8:50 PM
throws @Tunaki to @πάνταῥεῖ
 
@Tunaki No fun, really? Take that stick out of your ass please!
 
resist the urge to flag
resiiiist
 
uhhh
 
@Kyll resist please
 
jasper report with 11 upvotes and 100 bounty.... I did not like the question (already seen when it was with a 50 bounty)... but this time I better answer that x-y problem : )
 
8:53 PM
@Tunaki The mice are dancing if the cat's gone outdoors ;)
@Tunaki Your bot doesn't work well enough right now :P
 

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