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12:04 AM
@Darkrifts c++-cli is close enough for me
 
@sehe Wanna try and break my BooleanLambda testing? I'll port it to C++ once it isn't bork'd
I plan on making more useful lambdas if it works :P
 
I plan on making useful lambdas myself, thank you
 
 
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1:23 AM
Well, txti.es/darkrifts now holds documentation on the syntax, and there are still no easy conditionals in this. Has XNOR and the MUX thing at least :P
 
semanticmerge.com @BartekBanachewicz
 
2:26 AM
dst.cs - that name
 
Damn, every time I watch the 50m freestyle, it's insane as shit. Never gets old.
 
Anybody built the Ice RPC library on Windows?
 
no
 
fuck, either roll my own RPC over COM or figure out how to build somebodies library
and so the problem was solved by restarting my computer
export failure
 
2:45 AM
@Telkitty pretty sure it's called that because they renamed the file from src.cs to dst.cs or they moved certain functions from the one to the other while still maintaining diff fidelity. That's what the product does well, so it makes sense to have a showcase
 
> It is now possible to have an all Royalty gimmick team.
- Monkey King
- Wraith King
- Queen of Pain
- Sand King
- Lion (King of the jungle it counts.)
 
@sehe dst can be mistaken for DiSTance or Daylight Savings Time
what about ice queen?
 
3:03 AM
how do I write a string literal containing {0, '1'}?
if I write "\01" it parses it as {1}
I guess "\0""1" works
 
3:22 AM
@Telkitty your theory could be mistaken as interesting
@orlp {0, '1'} should do, std::string("\01", 2) for anything relevant. Curious what "\01"s does
 
@sehe I meant a string literal as in const char*
not to construct a std::string
and I was specifically interested in C, but C++ is interesting too :)
I doubt you can make it shorter than "\0""1" though
 
3:37 AM
@orlp Another possibility would be "\0\x31", (though I definitely prefer string concatenation).
 
3:53 AM
@orlp ah... does "\x001" work? I don't do C
 
@sehe I guess
 
4:09 AM
> Sits down to unwind by playing game I enjoy
> Sudden losing streak
 
no scrub allowed
 
On the other hand, I'm just hitting 3 to 4 star maps in Osu!, so at least there's that.
I think the reason I enjoy programming and multiplayer games is because I'm a closet masochist
 
5:09 AM
join the club
 
5:23 AM
Can't sleep
Won't sleep
 
5:37 AM
where are all the modular origami instructions
I bet I can understand enough of the Spanish sites to use those
origami instructions are very visual anyway
 
6:03 AM
@sehe Your parents would be proud
@LucDanton Is this Dota 2
Don't tell me you also play Dota 2
 
@AndreasPapadopoulos I am going over to China next month, want to meet up? I can assume you that I am not a pedophile ...
 
inb4 "fine I'm not telling you"
 
6:22 AM
I just woke up. I had a dream. I said something about wanting her to check something for me. She said she did not have time, that she would have her bottom sore soon. And then I woke up. :(
 
yeah right, she doesn't refer to a specific woman
I had a dream last night - I was driving on the road, then someone's motor cycle exploded, some kind of explosion associated with water and the rider was thrown 7-8 metres into the mid air. Some time later, I found the rider of the motor cycle at some other places, the person was alive with some minor injuries ...
 
@Telkitty Heh, that does not sound too bad.
@Telkitty Why would you even mention not being a paedophile? :D
 
6:38 AM
@wilx because he's not underage?
>_<
Doh, I still have to dope some internet people to meet up with me. I mean, I don't understand why people who I think I know for ages online are so reluctant to meet up in person with me when I go over to their habitat :/
A woman abroad alone must be really scary ... or maybe it's just me :(
 
@Telkitty lol
Come here and I will meet up with you unless it will collide with my time with my kids. :)
 
Thanks for the invitation :) Maybe visiting Europe in the next 12-24 months. Planning to visit China & the U.S. in the next 8 months. So it wouldn't be this year ...
 
6:56 AM
anybody experienced in sfml
 
@ChemiCalChems That is some graphics library, right? Nope, no clue.
 
@wilx it's a game library
 
no but I've heard rapptz call it s FML
 
i'm fucking trying to load higher that 8bit pngs and it seems i can't
but i've read somewhere that it may be possible
i don't fucking know
 
so it seems the moniker s FML is accurate then
 
7:02 AM
shit FML?
 
dunno what the s is but FML is certainly on point
 
@jaggedSpire oh xd
but...
it does support 32bit tga
welp what the fuck
 
nwp
7:57 AM
the S stands for simple, you can change it to Simply FML
 
nwp
8:13 AM
@R.MartinhoFernandes you can still play, it can be quite revealing. My high score is 64% agreement with the animal party... not sure what that tells about me.
 
@Mysticial Did you have to pay for the lunch? I heard the free lunch was over...
 
Best things in life are for free, so are the worst
 
Ven
@fredoverflow is your sentence a figure of speech? A semaphore maybe?
 
@fredoverflow Still get free lunch. All 3 of my jobs had free lunch. (my last job didn't always have it though)
 
8:34 AM
@Ven Not sure if you're kidding or not, just in case gotw.ca/publications/concurrency-ddj.htm
 
8:58 AM
3 jobs already, what a hopper!
 
Ven
9:22 AM
@fredoverflow sounded to me like semaphore fit right in the concurrency-related puns...:(
 
9:36 AM
I just finished two toast bread slices with butter and slices of tomatoes, salt, pepper and finely cut onion on top. It felt like mana.
 
10:01 AM
morning
 
@Ven Was semaphore supposed to be a "racey anagram" of metaphor?
 
10:22 AM
@user782220 boost xpressive or something /cc @chris
@Telkitty accidental comedy gold
@ChemiCalChems so much engaging from your side. In fairness I think you need to start with a good book. Tuns like "I don't get it; the memory is there" indicate your mental model of memory vs. pointers is still fundamentally lacking
@StackedCrooked I smell a pretty obvious race condition here.
@milleniumbug or that. God catch. @ChemiCalChems goud job with the sample
@TonyTheLion nice:)
@R.MartinhoFernandes there was a proposed library called block_ptr on the boost mailing list that did this. I believe I've linked it here once
 
10:58 AM
I broke X once again
2016 year of the linux desktop
 
Ell
@sehe oops yes I meant mod 12
for counting semitones up and down
 
@AndreasPapadopoulos but ticu
 
@sehe no, it was a fundamental fuck up
i don't know how to explain, i just thought i had the pointer set when it wasn't
 
@nwp wtf the construction of minarets is up to debate in these elections?
Who the fuck cares
AfD probably
 
anybody knows a graphic designer that would be willing to make graphics for a game?
turns my guy is half running out on me
 
11:14 AM
strangely most applications display fine
desktop and browser are completely fucked up
I give up
 
@nwp got Pirates
 
Ven
11:54 AM
@fredoverflow somewhat. Mostly just a pun, semaphor/metaphor
 
@AndreasPapadopoulos new background
 
@AndreasPapadopoulos *with my X
 
12:24 PM
> [...] have you informed this candidate that they have offensive body odor?
 
Hi all
I'm trying understand the solution provided by someone to a problem from codechef
It's in c++ and i did not understand some lines
So can i ask about those lines here or I should create a post ?
 
Ven
We have a whole forum dedicated to such questions, stackoverflow.com
So long you display interest and research
 
Ell
@mac07 create a post
 
nwp
@mac07 it is not likely to be well received on SO, you can try here
 
Okay.
 
12:49 PM
Hi guys, I'd like to ask: what is the purpose of using the "const" modifier at function arguments declaration, e.g. int testFn(const struct testStruct *ptr);
 
@RamziddinMakhmudov You cannot modify the data in the pointed to structure then.
I.e., the caller can be reasonably sure you will not molest his data.
 
Oh, okay, I think now I get it
 
@RamziddinMakhmudov this is the c++ lounge. So int testFn(testStruct const*) is more to the point :)
 
Okay, sorry ":D
 
nwp
@sehe I don't think code review explains c++ code
 
12:55 PM
mmm. Maybe if you ask "I would like to make the code express intent more clearly" :)
 
nwp
> #define all(a) (a.begin(), a.end())
I had not seen that one before
 
because it's dumb
 
all() occurs only once in that code. what is the use of it?
next to define
 
1:14 PM
\o/ IPv6 works! I just had to disable FW on the modem.
 
I was confused until I mentally s/firmware/firewall/
 
FOOD SCIENTIST: we bred this corn to have less rigid stoma ME: Stoma? FS: Pores for breathing essentially ME: So this is...soft pore corn?
 
:D
 
1:41 PM
np
 
The smoothness of the whole cancel/uncancel workflows, the frictionless offer for a -- free -- temporary account suspend instead, and (in conctrast) the overall slowness of their site tells me Giganews is trying to cope with a declining userbase
@R.MartinhoFernandes this looks neat honeyflow.com
 
2:05 PM
The dragonbook confused me wrt lexemes/tokens.
I never used the term lexeme.
I wonder whether I should in my work.
 
user1804599
2:17 PM
@sehe did you know about exclusion constraints?
 
user1804599
They're super rad. They're like UNIQUE indices except you can supply your own comparison function.
 
user1804599
Such as IS DISTINCT FROM or @>.
 
unfortunately I did already know about your face
 
2:43 PM
@rightfold super rad.
Not just rad.
More radical than Donald Trump, even.
It should be nominated for US President.
 
3:04 PM
@AndreasPapadopoulos I haven’t played in a long while, but I watch every TI avidly
 
Ven
3:16 PM
@rightfold in general, WITH is amaze
Especially considering how && works with ranges. Allows to check for overlapping
 
user1804599
@Ven that too
 
user1804599
@Ven and circles :3 and rectangles :3
 
anybody uses vulkan?
should i go for that or opengl?
 
opengl
 
3:23 PM
dont even attempt vulkan until you know your shit damn well
 
@Borgleader right, let's go opengl then
xd
 
3:36 PM
I just learned that Minderwertigkeitsgefühl is the origin of our word mindrák. :D
 
Ven
Didn't even know about view patterns, ghc's active patterns
 
i really need a tutorial on installing thread support on mingw64 linux
fucking hell
 
> What would be really nice would be similar functionality of this extension, without the need for new syntax. Thankfully, GHC can do just that. How, you ask? Well, you’ll just have to wait and see…
A cliffhanger in computer science text!
 
anyone has any ideas?
using mingw64 posix
 
nwp
3:52 PM
How can mingw for linux exist? It doesn't make sense.
 
MinGW -> Minimal GCC on Windows ... on Linux?
o.o
 
@nwp it's a cross compiler
 
@Borgleader in wine
 
@ChemiCalChems Are you missing <time.h> or <ctime> includes?
 
@ScarletAmaranth Kill it
killlllllll it
 
3:53 PM
@wilx i don't know, it's a library i'm trying to compile
and every library fails with that error
 
user1804599
@Ven no, but pattern guards are super rad
 
Ven
different feature tho
pattern guards are not a GHC extension
 
i fucked up, it was my fault
nicely
 
@sehe If you're talking about a compile-time-generated parser, my point was that instead of fitting it into C++ syntax, you could use a regular string literal containing a regex to define the parser and have it syntactically checked at compile-time.
 
4:14 PM
...
regexes and parsers are totally different things.
you can't have a string containing a regex that defines a parser.
 
Ven
@Puppy look at these bane snipes youtube.com/watch?v=qTfd0OPr1aY
 
seem it
it's pretty goo
d
 
@Borgleader Watch me
 
@chris Seems to me that if you want SNOBOL, that's what you should use.
 
@JerryCoffin Interesting
 
4:27 PM
at last i can fucking using posix threads on mingw-w64
fuck yes
now i'll rest xd
 
@Puppy The idea was having a compile-time string (through a macro or non-portable UDL on a string literal) and doing what Xpressive does with the equivalent EDSL.
 
yes, but that's a truly terrible idea.
and trying to use a regex to define a parser, which is literally impossible, is only going to make it worse.
 
@chris I was replying to this in particular (follow the reply arrows)
yesterday, by user782220
you can't do it with C++ templates hackery?
Also, see Boost Metaparse
 
> The penis is not a philanthropic organization and will not get hard because a woman bought a homeless guy a sandwich.
 
> notepad.cc will be shutting down February 1st, 2016. Please back up any documents before then
You have a real knack of choosing tools with ample support and at the focal point of community attention
 
4:39 PM
@sehe I've seen it, but it looks like a pain to use. I'm thinking of code that reads like normal, which is possible with constexpr and if constexpr.
Then again, the end result is the same, but I don't know how well a normal code version could be abstracted into a library like MetaParse.
 
Fuck. I hate my skin.
I need some lotion.
I took a shower and I itch all over everywhere.
 
Anyway, I'd need to actually make something to really go any further.
 
5:11 PM
@Nooble Sure
 
Ell
5:57 PM
@wilx was it a hot shower?
Try turning temp down next time
 
nwp
or become a snake
 
Ell
@Puppy what if the regex matches sections of a file marking BNF? :P
 
then it's the BNF file that defines the parser
 
Ell
What if the parser parses a regular language?
Then the regex string defines the parser
 
6:08 PM
parsers don't parse regular languages.
lexers do.
 
life lesson: once you learn regex, you love it
 
I love watching these poor, pathetic people (programmers) working so hard and so seriously to try and figure C++ out. They can't!
 
life lesson: once you learn regex, you love it
 
@ChemiCalChems life lesson: when you use a regex to solve a problem, you end up with 2 problems.
FTFY
 
Ell
@Puppy that's an arbitrary distinction
 
6:10 PM
it's not an arbitrary distinction, it's literally how those things are defined.
 
Ell
What if the lexer is the regex '.'
Or let's say the lexer just skips whitespace
 
neither of those things are relevant in the slightest.
 
Ell
@Puppy the latter does not prevent the former btw
 
either the grammar is too complicated for a regular language, in which case a regex cannot match it, or it's not, in which case a lexer is used.
 
Ell
@Puppy where does it say that a parser must parse at least a context free language?
 
6:13 PM
in the literal definition of what defines a parser vs a lexer.
 
piggybacking you see this a lot in anime :)
 
@Borgleader pff
 
Ell
6:28 PM
@Puppy where are you getting this?
 
it's called an "education"
 
Ell
...
What is your definition of a parser?
 
@Ell Not particularly. My skin just sucks. I went out and bought a lotion in pharmacy.
 
Ven
"Regexes" mean so little. PCRE can parse more than context free langs
 
Ell
@Ven more than regular you mean?
 
Ven
6:54 PM
Sure
 
Ell
7:10 PM
and no more than context free
if there is a regex that can parse context free, I don't want to ever have to decipher it :P
 
user1804599
@Ven hence "but"
 
Ell
rightfold tell me pls, can a parser be a parser if it parses a regular language?
 
nwp
rightfold has just been appointed the authority on cs terminology
 
user1804599
Define "parser".
 
Ell
@rightfold I'm implicitly asking you for a definition I guess
 
user1804599
7:18 PM
My definition of "parser" is a computer program that takes data in one form and converts it into data into another form that can be more easily processed.
 
user1804599
Text, for example, is a pretty shitty form. Hence many parsers take text as input.
 
user1804599
Maybe a and Either () a OTOH aren't much different, so Maybe a -> Either () a isn't a parser.
 
user1804599
SExpression -> Maybe AST could be.
 
user1804599
It's vague and subjective.
 
@Ell Better to ask somebody else, since the definition he's given is wrong. A parser (as such) only really needs to do one thing: determine whether an input fits a grammar or not. Yes, it's common to do some transformations along with that, but a parser that takes a "sentence" as input and produces only a bool as its result is entirely within the recognized definition of the word.
As far as the grammar goes: yes, of course it can be a regular language (vs. context free, for example)--but it's somewhat unusual to call such a thing a parser. Nothing really wrong about it, exactly, but a bit like talking about "my personal, mechanical transportation device" instead of "my car".
 
...Batmaaaan
 
nwp
@JerryCoffin I used python's cvs parser and I don't think it is unusual calling it a parser, even though it only parses a regular language
 
7:53 PM
@nwp I guess...
Have to think about it though--I'm not sure that full-blown CSV can be recognized by a regular language. In particular, it allows things like quotes nested inside a quoted string (and regular languages generally do poorly when nesting gets involved).
It might still work, since it's only a single level of nesting (instead of arbitrary, like nested parentheses and such can get) but it's not an absolute slam dunk that a regular grammar can cover it.
 
Ell
@JerryCoffin yeah, I guess technically all it does is say "yes this is in this language" or "no this isn't"
 
8:11 PM
@Ell Well, that's not usually all it really does--it's just the minimum necessary to qualify.
 
Ell
Yeah
Of course :)
 
Ven
8:24 PM
@rightfold hence butts
CSV is too loose a format btw
 
@sehe I wonder how that honeyflow thing works
We used a centrifuge to get the honey out of the games
Frames
 
@rightfold i love those
 
8:41 PM
Hello, Cruel World!
 
@Code-Apprentice go away
:p
 
I feel the love =p @StackedCrooked
How's the Lounge today?
 
it seems to be rather quiet at the moment
which is typical for saturdays
 
Ell
@R.MartinhoFernandes I think the behind of the cells can move
I'm probably wrong though
But I think once the bee caps the front, when the tap is turned, the back moves to allow the honey to flow out
 
nwp
they show in the video how the hexagons shift slightly to let the honey flow through
 
Ven
9:00 PM
"Comme disent les perlistzs, il n'y a que my qui m'aille"
/cc @LucDanton @AndreasPapadopoulos
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Sounds fancy
 
If you are looking for a screen casting software Open Broadcaster Software works pretty well even on Linux.
Much better than Kazam. It even can mix inputs from camera and desktop or audio from output and your mic.
Pretty nice.
 
@wilx yeah, it's very nice, that's my personal choice
 
9:33 PM
@Ven :| l’épice m’en monte au nez
 
9:44 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes I think the site documents it quite a bit. And if there's a patent (I think there is) it needs to be open
@chris if you're just looking for statically initialized regex FSMs, just ... use compiled regexes and, you know, statically initialize them. Think harder iff you can't afford the startup cost
 
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