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12:36 AM
OMG that's awesome!
 
12:49 AM
@McAdam I have to stop having casual conversations with your mom lol
 
1:34 AM
 
 
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4:17 AM
Didn't see anything
 
4:45 AM
Yo o/
 
5:08 AM
o/
@codeMagic Beautiful.
 
5:38 AM
Morning
 
6:03 AM
git push origin hamster
 
6:29 AM
lol
 
you should be sleeping!
XD
nice to see you btw.
 
@LawGimenez the books behind the Skin Game book are so aligned and selected that you can read "Never going to give you up, never going to let you down". I guess you know the song :)
 
lol
 
6:54 AM
\o
 
\o
 
o/
 
7:46 AM
Wow awesome! Thanks Warren for that, I keep looking at the book cover and wtf
=)
 
so this is now a thing
sounds nice
 
Yeh, but their authentication is failing, been trying their demo app whole morning
And now I'm on iOS again, what's new on Apple world guys? Still boring stuffs?
 
nothing new
all crap.
as always.
 
\o Everyone~~ :3
 
ONE OF US. ONE OF US. ONE OF US
welcome to the circle Gang
 
8:05 AM
At least it's better than Windows phone
 
o/
 
8:25 AM
Skin Game is a great book
Morning.
 
damn multidex bugs
 
8:59 AM
Eric - Boo to multidex. Have you included the whole Google Library instead of just the ones you need?
 
Yes , I did that
So now
com.google.android.gms:play-services:9.0.0 has a
Method Count 69520
Does it mean if you are adding only 9.0.0 then you have to add MultiDex gradle If I am not wrong.
One day this count is gonna reach to moon
 
Yeah, but now it's advised that you don't use google-services
 
no, but the app uses a gazillion librares
 
What's that ?
 
maps + classic gcm + v4 + v7 + material support + activenadroid + blah blah blah blah
 
9:10 AM
So do you mean if we are adding play service then we dont need to add any of above dependency ?
 
Does anyone else get "Error launching activity" when trying to run their project in AS? I feel like it's a thing from their new version
never seen it before updating
 
not updated yet
error, make sure to capture semantics properly, class objects must be preceded by "self." . fucking swift getting worse and worse...
 
Updated to 2.1.1 with SDK . Its working fine for me.
swift is a brother of iOS.
 
it's one of the two languages iOS and OSX software is made with
but not restricted to them, apparently google is experimenting with it on android
 
9:27 AM
\o
 
does all android studios run the app with crtl-R or just mine beucase it's configured like AppCode? i don't remember using it when i had it stand-alone.
 
Mine doesn't
Ctr + F10 :)
 
9:49 AM
eric, just yours
 
nice
i'm special
ralph gif
 
It says "Choo Choo Choose you, and there's a picture of a train"
 
XD
 
:P
 
10:08 AM
another release. today it's release new apk day ;_;
 
Eric - How many versions do you release in a month ?
 
depends
 
Around.
 
some apps have a veeery long lifetime, for example, we just released the 2.0 of an app that was running since late 2014
others have a weekly or monthly patch
always depends on what the client wants
 
We generally does it monthly (last week)
But support project can be weekly.
 
10:11 AM
we don't have any in-house "thinked and designed" app (yet) , so it always depends on whether the client wants maintenances / new features or not
 
We also don't have in-house app
But sometime showcases kill this.
Sometime I feel more in the meeting room than near to my workstation.
 
Anybody else get that thing where at night they think "I'll sort that out at lunch time in the office" every single night, yet never remember it when you're in the office.
 
story of my life.
 
I'm supposed to be getting something... and I can't remember what.
Which reminds me, I need to buy batteries on my way home and fit a plug socket when I get home (both of which I will forget when I'm in the right place to actually do what I want).
 
keep diggin' . we need more threads.
 
WE MUST GO DEEPER!
 
at least he called start instead of run
 
for 0 .. 100 { new Thread( new runnable(){ runonUiThread(){ textview.settext(textview.getText() + " ha"); }}) }
 
you forgot to synchronized it with something
 
10:39 AM
XD
 
right, synchronization is the key
 
lol
i gist'd funny thing in the past
anybody tried buddybuild.com?
 
11:12 AM
Is there any implementation for drag-selection of github.com/alamkanak/Android-Week-View?
 
woah
jsut tested it
amazing
no more deployment headaches
 
Hi All
 
heya matty
 
Not been on for a long time, guessing not much has changed
CptEric, have you ever used Apache httpClient and NTLM authentication?
 
first? yes. 2nd? no.
 
11:26 AM
really struggling, the Apache stuff is depreciated
 
there's a new apache lib
 
oh right, didnt know that, ill take a look thanks
 
i use it through the AdnroidAsyncHttp library.
 
hm, i was confused because they recommend removing the Apache stuff developer.android.com/about/versions/marshmallow/…
 
the "default" apache stuff.
 
11:32 AM
Still you can use Apache lib.
 
i tried adding the line they recommended and it would not sync
 
We still use apache too
Legacy apache library gradle line: compile 'org.jbundle.util.osgi.wrapped:org.jbundle.util.osgi.wrapped.org.apache.http.cli‌​ent:4.1.2'
 
almost everybody uses Apache
nobody likes google's HttpURLthing
 
ha, well ive spent dys trying to use HttpUrlConnection with ntlm auth, no luck so far
Graeme, sorry but could you explain where i use that line?
 
gradle
 
11:44 AM
in dependencies?
 
aye
with the rest of libs
 
so do i download the files from github and add them to my project?
sorry, first time ive had to do this
 
uh
nope
you just add that line into gradle
dependencies {
compile 'com.jakewharton:butterknife:6.0.0'
}
 
when i try to sync i get: failed to resolve compile 'org.jbundle.util.osgi.wrapped:org.jbundle.util.osgi.wrapped.org.apache.http.cli‌​‌​ent:4.1.2'
 
hmm graeme did you miss any repository ?
 
11:52 AM
No? Lemme check
Nope, only use jcenter() repo
 
so in my build.gradle i have put dependencies {
compile 'org.jbundle.util.osgi.wrapped:org.jbundle.util.osgi.wrapped.org.apache.http.cli‌​ent:4.1.2'
}
 
As the final enclosure in your build.gradle for the module?
 
i have just added them lines into build.gradle, above the android{} section
 
dependencies at the bottom
 
same result, failed to resolve
hmm
 
11:56 AM
are you behind a proxy?
 
dont think so, if i add the google play services dependency it downloads and works
so do you guys just leave the code in for Apache, and put up with the depreciation markup?
 
i use a lib that does it for me because i'm really lazy and don't want to build my own http Clients. #NoShame
well
anyway, lunch time!
see ya in the afternoon
 
bubye
 
I found this
10
A: Android deprecated apache module (HttpClient, HttpResponse, etc.)

fattireIn Android Marshmallow (sdk 23), you can add: useLibrary 'org.apache.http.legacy' to build.gradle in the android {} section as a workaround. This seems to be necessary for some of Google's own gms libraries!

 
thanks for that, i have tried it, and it makes things like HttpResponse highlight red and not be found
does it matter if android studio marks things as depreciated with a line through them? can i just ignore that and leave it in?
 
12:24 PM
You will have a crash.
 
Deprecated means that you shouldn't use it but you can use it but keep in mind that you will sooner or later run into a crash/compile error if the method was completely removed
good documented API suggests what you should use instead
 
yeah, theres no alternative to NTLM authentication without using Apache stuff, thats where im struggling
i have added apache legacy to my lib folder, some things still say depreciated but they are running fine
 
Wow didn't realise they deprecated HttpClient
HttpUrlConnection is nice to use anyway
 
HttpClient is easy to attach NTLM auth, cant find anything else that works so well
HttpUrlConnection dosnt support the NTLM
 
12:42 PM
> If (to be || !(to be)) always evaluates to true, is there really a question?
 
Wouldn't it be if(2*b || ! (2*b))
 
LOL
 
1:18 PM
I have a question!
 
I have a ... well never mind
 
My coworker and I are wondering: should an adapter be allowed to modify the list inside of it? Ex: You have a fragment with a recyclerview and adapter. Let's say you want to add an item to it. Should the adapter have a .add() method to do it, or should the fragment do it via something like recyclerview.getAdapter().notifyItemAdded()?
 
We generally does this by using adapter object , Adapter has a add method . then we notify changes.
adapter.add(object);
adapter.notify....
 
That's what I do too. He does it differently, which is fine, I think it's just a difference in opinion.
 
1:35 PM
Either adam, just keep it standard across all instances.
 
You can override create custom notifiy method which will be called just after add() of adapter class , inside notify() you can write like notifyItemAdded() :)
 
I've used the pattern of creating Adapters with a handler so that when you add() or remove() on the adapter, it knows to update itself. It helps to isolate the adapter's functionality.
 
Yes
no need to call adapter.notify
 
Right. His idea was that the Adapter's sole responsibility is to display the list and handle how the views are displayed, not modify it in any way. Essentially saying the list of items belongs to the fragment, not to the adapter.
 
1:49 PM
got a message: hey genius, can you hack an instagram account?
ugh...
 
that's my friends everyday
"Hey man I want to have my gf's facebook account, please help me"
 
lel
if I could hack one, I'd get the bug bounty
 
lol
Ahmad have you heard of hipchat?
 
back~~ :3
 
BACK!
adam, ahmad, you tried buddybuild? it's amazing
*_*
 
2:04 PM
I haven't.
 
analytics + CI + automatical build generation + automatic app deployment + slack / hipchat integration
 
neat
 
probably too expensive for sidekick projects
 
it's-a-free (for now)
<3
 
does someone know a tool that can show a dependency matrix? I need to know how awful the spider web of dependencies is inside our code...
SonarQube had onces such a matrix but they dropped it with the last major release
 
2:18 PM
The new APK analyzer in AS 2.2 might help
also
this is fucking sick!
 
don't tell me you didn't know that
 
iv'e done that a lot :P
 
that's old Adam :P
 
that post is 2 years old :P
 
better late than sorry :)
 
2:21 PM
I know
but I don't know all the great shortcuts
 
the John Snow of AndroidStudio!
 
:|
 
I just got caught up on Game of thrones so I get that now
 
I don't even watch GoT and I got that one.
 
eski right now
 
2:24 PM
lol
 
admire my poopopia
cities skylines
the great lakes of poo.
 
AS -> Analyze -> Analyze Dependencies
that is something I am about to check now
 
@McAdam331 imgur.com/9uKlIMz
2
 
you know nothing adam snow.
 
srry.... (not really) I had to do it...
 
2:36 PM
Cities Skylines is a great game
 
yes
unless you put a poop exhaust on a closed lake in a mountain and you create a sea of poop by accident only contained by a series of giant dams.
 
it's like the 1800s all over again
 
okay
so since you guys like to rip on me for sharing AS shortcuts late, let me just give you a dump; plus.google.com/+KatherineKuanPlus/posts/4nVcb5JHVrk
 
Just switch to recycling sewers, it'll clear up eventually :)
 
you can even copy and paste from one file to another :p
 
2:44 PM
@Graeme DOES THAT EXIST?
 
Yeah?
You've not been using recycling sewage plants? :)
 
what are these?
is it a mod?
 
Okay
I like RxJava.
I'm not sure how I'm going to be using it quite yet, but it's pretty neat.
 
3:11 PM
fuck. we had a blackout on class
damn electric lines
-_-
all the pc's shat down
 
lol
> Multi-threaded Android applications are difficult because you have to make sure to run the right code on the right thread; mess up and your app can crash. The classic exception occurs when you try to modify a View off of the main thread.
Our room loves NetworkOnMainThread
 
rxjava is niiiiice
 
Multi-threaded apps in general are difficult; not just for Android :P
 
3:37 PM
> A common programming solution is to use threads. But then, two ‘llyou hav erpoblesm.
 
lol
 
weird
 
kinda cool though
 
yikes
@annotations @everywhere , tho.
 
3:44 PM
these are pretty minimal though
 
That moment when you realise you already wrote code to handle several cases which you were currently thinking of handling in a dumber way than you already did
@WarrenFaith I now pronounce thee Guardian of The Other Hours, may your duties be well
 
\oo
 
4:00 PM
O/
 
o/
welcome back @WarrenFaith
 
I have faith in warren
5
 
4:16 PM
Thanks :)
@eski nice play of words :)
 
now that you're a room owner Warren you'll need to learn how to use your powers - go to the "access control" list page and reject Telkitty for help vampirism ;-)
 
hah
Good to see you Carl
 
hey Een, how are you?
are you stateside?
 
I am doing alright; Just finished up a major project for a client here then prepare to fly out
 
@Telkitty rejected because your superiority is devolving too fast! The chances to be able to keep up with us is beyond imagination.
 
4:29 PM
:|
 
we're burnin
BURNINGG
it's over 36ºC in here
 
96.80 Freedomheits
 
call me when it's 41C
 
for the usarian's.
 
4:31 PM
cause it's gotten that hot here before
 
not in may.
not in my city.
XD
 
^ LOL
 
we're supposed to get to 41-43ºC on JULY-AUG
lol
 
It was 90 here yesterday. That was warm enough
 
4:39 PM
nearly 30 here today
I should get an A/C
 
300 what?
 
30 deg. C
(in the attic)
 
5:26 PM
Someone grown up and responsible that's a room owner I have a question.
Aka not Adam.
<3
 
What's your question?
 
Can we schedule a room call? Like an official one?
 
Not today lol
idk maybe we can do that sometime though
might be interesting
 
Yeah, I mean, you can create events.
 
i'm rendering things exploding.
it's not as funny as it sounds
it's staring at a screen
waiting for pixels to become things.
 
5:29 PM
TIL you can have a dark menu bar and dock in OSX
 
for 2h.
yeah but looks horrible
 
IT's not all bad imho
 
Did you hear about the Math teacher who forgot his lunch money? He did buynomeal
~My chem teacher
 
lol
 
lol
 
5:35 PM
we setted up a "days without incidents" html counter for our class.
today it went back to 0.
;_;
 
Fuck...
My phone just shut off and won't turn on...
Pressing various power combinations vibrates it but the screen shows nothing.
ohmygodthankgodItjustturnedonthankgodIfreakedoutfewholyshit
 
blanket? tea?
 
Whoop, my school IT unblocked the site I use to code.
 
soft kitty song?
 
5:50 PM
Soft kitty, warm kitty, little ball of fur!
@CptEric I need your opinion
 
what kind of incidents eric?
 
teacher/s angry with the "w0t m8" sector of class
tell me tristan
 
Happy kitty, sleepy kitty, purr purr purr! :D
 
So say you're a teacher, and you want to add a student to your district. (Bullying system thing). You can either add a bunch of students via a CSV or similar file. Or you can add one by just entering their information. How would you want to add one, think HTML/CSS
 
hmmm
some easy to use, easy to fill react form
very intuitive atleast.
 
5:53 PM
So, how would you want it to look
 
high school teachers = not rocket scientists msot of the time.
 
Like 4 textboxes? Or...
 
depends on the data
what do you want to store?
 
4 fields
 
which?
 
5:55 PM
First name, Last name, Grade, and.... shit I forgot the fourth.
 
age?
photo?
isBullied?
textbox, textbox, and boostrap-y dropdown
those three atleast
a pretty datepicker if the 4rth is age
 
Shit I have to remember.
 
nobody likes to write in dates like 4/31/2042
time to go home
 
Ooh, I could have them be able to add in custom fields. Like a birthday field and stuff.
 
aye
 
5:58 PM
see ya later :3
 
ttyl!
 
store them all customs as string lateh
 
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