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12:00 PM
@TJ Did this ping you?
 
we know it doesn't:P
the former
the latter does
 
Not yet fixed :/
 
at least if we can believe a spearrel
@BhargavRao oh, should it have been?
 
Nope, Just testing
 
ah OK:)
 
12:09 PM
Advertising own blog... spammy
 
Qualifies as k?
 
noted in comment
 
@Cerbrus I left a comment here on the naive chance that OP is listening
 
I say so. He did it on another site as well. Just trying to get traffic to his blog
 
12:11 PM
If he'd linked to his REST blog post, it might even be borderline (spam-wise) link-only crap. As it stands, it's spam.
 
k
Noted
 
well, from a layman's point of view
 
Meanwhile, it's still not gone
Wake up, guys :D
 
@Cerbrus gone now
 
that was...quick?
 
12:37 PM
morning!
 
@gunr2171 \o
 
@gunr2171 \o
 
Hiya gunr
 
crap, I'm going to miss the live stream of Google I/O because it's Wednesday
 
12:41 PM
gunr o/
 
hey
 
T J
@BhargavRao I got one ping
 
Yep, Bug's still present :)
 
Mah
I read this and was reminded of a conversation I had with a friend of my aunt
 
@Magisch poop ftw
wish I could upvote on other SE sites:P
 
12:49 PM
She was holding the opinion that anything that can be used by pedophiles to gain an advantage over law enforcement should be illegal and anyone that uses it should be considered a pedophile until proven otherwise
 
real progressive
 
And I had to try really hard to not roll my eyes so hard that they fell out
 
@AndrasDeak You can't?
 
Sam
lol
 
With her being a devout catholic and all
because by alot of criteria, her church fits into her description....
 
Sam
12:50 PM
@Magisch Maybe point her to this.
 
@NathanOliver only if I join those communities;)
I have a condition (it's called laziness)
 
It's like 2 button presses :p
 
@Magisch I'd rather not comment on that one:D I mean, I would, but probably shouldn't.
 
@Magisch Here's the simple truth: if the US enforced encryption weakening, criminals would simple not use american encryption
 
@NathanOliver I already have like 4 communities
 
12:52 PM
Anyone who thinks otherwise is delusional.
 
@MadaraUchiha or clueless
 
or lying
 
the public as a whole is generally oblivious to IT facts
 
The US should be first in encryption, if they want the power to break encryption
 
12:52 PM
or insane
 
They should encourage more research, more funds, more companies
 
There really isn't such a thing as "American encryption" anyways
 
plus a few interested folks manipulating public perception
 
Any more then there is "American math"
because encryption is a section of applied math
 
@MadaraUchiha wasn't that the "NSA backdoor to stuff" strategy?
 
12:53 PM
@Magisch Sure there is. Federal law limits key sizes, algo strength, etc.
You can't trust any security firm based in the US.
 
Thats infinitely retarded
 
Sam
@MadaraUchiha Or UK.
 
limits key size
you what
 
@Cerbrus beat me to it
 
12:54 PM
@MadaraUchiha Why not? They hire people from other countries since our education system is such a joke.
 
Maybe going with Kaspersky wasn't such a mistake after all
 
@NathanOliver You mean, hire?
 
you saw nothing ;)
 
Also, it's not the people that's the problem, contrary to popular belief, Americans are not more stupid than the rest of the population
 
Compared to some of the stuff that happened in the US lately russia seems very sane in comparison
One thing I dont get
 
12:55 PM
I can't see why anyone would bother. It's like ABM shields - its far easier and cheaper to make smarter/more offensive weapons than defensive systems to shoot them down, so why bother trying?
 
It's that companies are obligated to bend over for the NSA/FBI/any other 3 letter acronym whenever they ask
 
Is how you let your government so consistently bend you over and
 
@MadaraUchiha let MOI ask google to bend over then :D
 
@Magisch Why do you think people are voting for donald trump?
 
12:56 PM
They resent their system, they lost all confidence in it, and Trump's the one offering change.
 
@MadaraUchiha Isn't that kinda like Godwin's law?
 
@MadaraUchiha Probably because they're up for literally anything but the establishment right now
 
@Magisch Exactly.
 
even if the alternative is a monkey in an ugly wig
 
@Magisch Oh - you're running too?
 
12:57 PM
OI
u wot m8
 
Sam
rofl
 
heh:D
 
hook u in the gabber m8
 
Savage
 
12:59 PM
@AshishAhujaツ 333 feedbacks, 7 invalidated (2.1% invalid)
 
@ArtOfCode Didn't you want to make a stats page for that?
 
@Magisch yeah, at some point
 
What would be cool would be
if smokey pinged a reviewer whose feedback was invalidated in the room they gave feedback in
when that happened
so you'd know
right now there is no way to find the invalid feedback you've given
 
Out of flags, backup needed.
 
besides looking at meta smoke and seeing a picture was not added
 
1:01 PM
@Magisch it should say "strike three, loser"
 
four, it's 4%
 
I'd find it useful to review the invalid feedback I've given, to learn from it
 
Sam
... and then we can all point the finger of shame.
 
yup
@Sam is that the middle one?
 
@Magisch useful, also difficult. That needs cross platform cooperation
 
1:05 PM
'This is not a programming assignment and I am not a student.' - the images on the links..:) stackoverflow.com/questions/37300423/…
 
Sam
@AndrasDeak :p
 
@MartinJames even a pro grammer needs practice to stay on his toes:P
 
Though I guess we could send stuff on the back of status pings? We do that for CI.
 
" I may stop laughing eventually." that's not helpful to the author @MartinJames
 
@gunr2171 You're right, so I deleted it. It would be nice, however, if posters would hold back a bit with the blatant lies that are not useful to SO contributors.
 
1:10 PM
true
 
@ArtOfCode The first step could be a page for every reviewer that you can access like metasmoke.erwaysoftware.com/reviewer?=<some ID>
or something like it
 
I think blatant lies = downvote
 
where then you can see your stats and list of invalid feedback by you
 
@gunr2171 I am going to steal that comment.
 
or edit out the lies:P but wilhe fun, that would be abusive
 
1:10 PM
@NathanOliver go for it
 
I don't think there is an expectation of privacy over smoke stats
 
that's a conversation for the Charcoal people
 
@Magisch smokey reviewer info should be public anyway
oh, that's just what you're saying, right?
 
When I asked it seemed like most people would be happy with stats bring public, so it's possible
 
I don't mind. I am curious to see what my stats are.
 
user3956566
1:16 PM
parallel universes, exact same topic in charcoal at exact same time do de do doo, do de do doo <-- spooky music
 
Well. In the same way that close votes once closed are public, and that my contributions and edits are public, and that my reviews are public, I want my stats to be public
 
with all the possible social/meta intricacy going on with smokey, transparency sounds like a good default concept
@Yvette I hope you were going for a theremin theme, as that's what I read
 
mainly because it soothes people who have concerns over accountability with smokey and because should my stats ever go south I can review how and why and make improvements
 
@ArtOfCode I really need to just get websockets working, then we can do it cleanly
 
I set myself a fairly high standard for self accountability and I'd like to review every failed feedback I gave to ensure the lesson has been learnt
 
1:17 PM
and the bodies disposed of
 
user3956566
@AndrasDeak theremin? ah
 
@Yvette en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theremin touch-free instrument
 
user3956566
@TylerH Sheldon Couper Cooper
 
Cooper?
 
knew it
 
user3956566
 
@MadaraUchiha They already do in some ways
@AndrasDeak shush, you
 
@TylerH Of course they do.
You can't trust any security firm based in the US
 
Especially with it being illegal to "outsource" US-based encryption
 
user3956566
@MadaraUchiha or anywhere else :D
 
1:22 PM
@BhargavRao Yep, seems NAA to me; asking a 'me too' question as an answer
 
@MadaraUchiha So that means we cannot thrust SO because its hosted in the US? Our whole life, LIES
 
@BhargavRao You're all alone in NATO, out of bullets.
 
@BhargavRao I also say yes
 
Ah Fine, Thanks.
@Tunaki Yep, I'll take care.
 
51 pending flags also
 
1:24 PM
@MadaraUchiha really?
 
heh, explosm.net/comics/4303 heavy on the puns today
 
Was bit busy trying to come up with a canon page for [r]
 
@Ferrybig Yes, thrusting of SO is strictly forbidden
 
@Magisch Why the hell would I want to use any sort of security based product that comes out of the US?
 
Idk
where could you use security products from
 
1:25 PM
@MadaraUchiha I think the more important question would be why not
 
most countries are either authoritharian or allies of the US
 
@TylerH Well, weakened crypto and weakened keys
Backdoors for the NSA and FBI
They must store certain data to be able to present to law enforcement
It's like trusting security products from North Korea, really.
 
user3956566
@Ferrybig hm I am hoping you mean trust :p
 
@Yvette Lets say I had trouble with my spelling check and it turned itself off
 
user3956566
@Ferrybig ah that's what they all say :D
 
spell check doesn't catch that:P
@Undo time to point the finger
 
user3956566
@Undo thanks
 
@Undo Ooh... I checked mine as well... Thanks for the link... :)
 
1:32 PM
82 feedbacks, 1 invalidated (1.22% invalid) for me
 
is username a good key? in the long run?
 
yeah, you have to hack in your username. Seems like you figured out how to do that, almost like we're on a programming site.
 
(yay?)
 
@AndrasDeak What could possibly go wrong?
 
1:33 PM
655 feedbacks, 6 invalidated (0.92% invalid)
 
I hope it works for 2-character-long usernames
 
@AndrasDeak maybe not, but the main issue is that we have to link what comes in from chat with what comes in from review
 
@Ferrybig I'm surprised the thrusting didn't turn itself on :-D
 
@Undo I'm pretty sure it won't be of practical concern for the time being:)
 
> 684 feedbacks, 8 invalidated (1.17% invalid)
 
user3956566
1:34 PM
434 2.4%
 
you'd need clashing usernames registered with Smokey, which doesn't happen overnight
 
Oh yeah, currently batting a thousand metasmoke.erwaysoftware.com/admin/…
 
we can assume Magisch not to change his name to Kyll, right?
 
> 46 feedbacks, 0 invalidated (0.0% invalid)
\o/
 
morning
 
1:35 PM
morning
 
@Closey next 5 tags
 
user3956566
hi
 
Refreshing the tag listing. Please wait...
@TylerH The next 5 tags are: 32, 27, 26, 26, 24
 
3% with 1 invalidated :(
I need to give more feedback
 
@yam die
 
Yam
1:36 PM
@Magisch You need to be a room owner, moderator, or Sam to kill me.
 
:(
 
The bots are standing up for themselves.
2
 
@Undo Are you 17?
Cause Art is 18
 
slightly younger
 
age limit + epsilon every day;)
 
1:38 PM
16 year olds programming bots and moderating stack overflow
5
 
@ryanyuyu The... 4th law of robotics?
 
And I sit here with 23 as an apprentice
Im infinitely slacking
 
@Magisch at least you'll be a Wizzard one day
 
No
I already lost that chance
:(
 
user3956566
1:39 PM
@Undo really??
 
@TylerH Actually I think that is pretty much the 3rd law. But with a weakened 2nd law (following human directives).
 
there goes your authority in the eyes of Lady Yvette;)
 
@Yvette I don't have much reason to lie about it ;)
Not like it'll make fewer people vote for me in the next election or something
 
user3956566
@AndrasDeak so true
 
he's lying, he just can't help himself to write 61 so he mixed the digits
 
Sam
1:40 PM
@gunr2171 Better than mine xD
 
Ah. Of course
 
user3956566
@Undo you behave like you are 56
 
user3956566
so mature crikey
 
I guess that's a compliment :)
 
@Yvette can't tell if that's a compliment
 
1:41 PM
@Yvette as I said, age doesn't have much to do with this all:)
 
user3956566
@ryanyuyu lol
 
@Sam :(
 
user3956566
@AndrasDeak shuddup, I'm always right ;)
 
of course, ma'm
 
user3956566
@Undo well I voted for you.
 
1:41 PM
@Undo You're not wrong, there are no re-elections
 
user3956566
nice :D
 
You're now stuck with the diamond until you on your own decide to drop it
 
user3956566
@Magisch what do you mean?
 
@AndrasDeak "sheila"
 
user3956566
can't you run after you resign?
 
1:42 PM
@Magisch Or do something crazy. That's another option.
 
@Yvette Mods don't have term limits
 
@gunr2171 you lost me
 
@Yvette suppose you could, but it's never been done before
 
australian for "woman"
 
user3956566
was minitech the youngest mod?
 
1:42 PM
There is no need to resign if you want to mod in future
 
@gunr2171 what?:D
 
you can have an absence where SE will take your diamond but they'll give it back to you when you're available again
I think
 
lol, never heard that one:D
 
@Magisch like when you go to jail?
 
1:43 PM
Or when you have no time for a while
or make a world tour where you have no internet
 
@gunr2171 I found urbandictionary, close enough;)
 
Rob
@Magisch Isn't taking the diamond the same as resigning, though? :)
 
user3956566
in australia, the guys call other guys mate. and they call the women love and the women call men and other women. love. love = mate
 
"Names of beer glasses in various Australian cities" WHY DO YOU NEED A WHOLE SECTION DEDICATED TO THAT!?!?!
 
user3956566
so it's not lovey dovey
 
1:44 PM
sounds confusing
 
And whats a "bloke" then
 
user3956566
@gunr2171 I didn't even know that!
 
a guy?
 
user3956566
a bloke's a guy
 
Rob
Men also say love to women.. though depending on their age, it can either be endearing or condescending
 
user3956566
1:45 PM
yep
 
user3956566
as a 48 year old woman it's pretty stock standard that I call most people love
 
user3956566
sign I'm getting older really
 
user3956566
where are you @rob?
 
Rob
Melbourne
 
user3956566
ah yes.
 
Rob
1:46 PM
Anyway, time for bed - night all
 
night
 
user3956566
same night
 
Is it sad that I had my introduction into Aussie slang via Borderlands the Presequel?
 
Bye, Aussies!
 
aussie you later
 
1:52 PM
@ryanyuyu great game, teaches accurate life lessons
cough cough @NathanOliver buy it cough cough
 
@Mogsdad link-onky
 
What the XXXX is going on here?
 
Australian culture happened
 
I see the air-quotes on "culture"!
 
@gunr2171 waiting for sale as instructed. must not deviate from instructions
 
1:54 PM
@gunr2171 That covers one post. What about the rest?
 
@NathanOliver Summer sale starting at the end of June
 
@Magisch you can take a vacation up to six months and keep your diamond; if you need longer the team will likely give your diamond to someone else but return it when you come back.
 
@MartinJames bah, no idea. Chat has a life of it's own
 
What are we buying in sale? I presume this to be the steam sale?
 
@Tunaki Is it OK to raise a custom flag in such cases? (Since my NAA was disputed by the edit.)
 
1:59 PM
@Mogsdad You can do, but it's more risky. I've thrown an NAA at it.
 
@Adriaan I'm going to be playing Borderlands (2, others later) when the Steam Sale hits with Nathan
others are invited to join in
 
:D
 
@gunr2171 ah ok. I'm probably not buying that this summer
 
@ArtOfCode In the normal scheme of things, a user would need to get Mod help to eliminate that post. Or post on Meta & let M.E. take care of it. Thankfully, we have SOCVR!
 
@Mogsdad \o/
 
2:02 PM
@gunr2171 ooh ooh. Pick me!
 
woot
join us for other gaming in the mean time
 
@gunr2171 depends on the game, day, and my colleagues from work. But sure
 
in The Ministry of Silly Hats, 4 hours ago, by Kyll
@gunr @Nathan (Nathan's not pingable ><) @Thaillie @Madara TF2 tonight? In something like 10 or 11 hours
but we'll talk more about games in the ministry
 
sure
 
@gunr2171 in 6 hours? That's 22:00 for me o.0
 
2:10 PM
@Adriaan Normally it would be ~00:00 :p
 
So as usual, us Europeans dancing to the tune of the 'Muricans
 
yay
 
^ Whattey question...
 
Somewhat interesting graph at the bottom of metasmoke.erwaysoftware.com/graphs.
 
@Undo That's an elephant... :D
 
2:19 PM
@Undo no idea what the graph meanq
 
@PraveenKumar who are you calling an elephant?!?
 
@Adriaan The graph... Not you...
 
@Tunaki Time from report to deletion on tp posts.
 
@Undo inw what? Cookies?
 
seconds :P
 
2:20 PM
@Undo Eh... What's special in it? I do't get it.
 
@Undo but the scale / units?
no label on X axis also :p
 
So we get spam when India's working. Not really a surprise there
 
Al least it's some nice jQuery plugin, I bet.
 
x axis is the same as the above graph. UTC hour-of-day. Y axis is seconds.
 
@Adriaan LoL... What did you say??? Grrr... :P
 
2:21 PM
Axes labelling and scaling is completely broken and I need to go fix it sometime
 
400 seconds?
More than 6 minutes on average to kill spam
 
yup
 
No.. Again confusing... Seconds or milli seconds?
 
We're not killing spam on a millisecond scale.
 
Yeah, nanoseconds sound more like our turf
 
2:24 PM
@Tunaki Don't poke the Hungarian here; he's doing picoseconds afaik
 
no I'm not
I can keep it up for microseconds easily
 
@AndrasDeak strains not to make a dirty joke here
 
2:39 PM
 
@Tunaki other answer on that should be a comment as well
 
not so sure
or yeah, NAA also -- doesn't have any piece of info, just asking for clarification
 

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