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2:00 PM
:30339079 Migrated. Don't forget the [tag:cv-pls] thingy =)
 
@Kyll you scared him
 
@Tushar ... Woah, yes.
 
JAL
@Kyll did you just out-skeet the Skeet?
 
@JAL I'll tell you once my rep quadruples.
 
JAL
:P
 
2:05 PM
the url
 
it's a resource question tho
 
@IanKemp ?
 
@PetterFriberg The above sd report and my cv-pls
 
aah it was intended before your cv-pls request
 
\o again
I am reincarnated
 
2:14 PM
@PhMgBr yay?
 
@PhMgBr Hiya... some black magic?
 
Flags @Petter as spam
@ryanyuyu Nah, the other world is much more interesting.
But I came back to get more repz
 
Ahh the molecule is back
You can water @rene again @PhMgBr
 
@PhMgBr seems legit.
welcome back
 
@Magisch grows
 
2:21 PM
.
 
@rene does that make you more or less blurry?
 
@ryanyuyu you tell me how my blurification is going ....
 
stay sharp!
 
I C...
 
@rene I have poor eyesight so I really wouldn't be the best judge. Depending on how I squint everything is blurry.
 
2:24 PM
I hear that if you close your eyes, you don't see it blurry anymore.
 
stares blankly
 
@rene You're very sharp now. This isn't a good sign
 
When rene talks, everything on my screen gets blurry
 
RO lets remove this user.....
 
ah this guy
 
okay thanks Petter
 
@PetterFriberg That's why it's 4% plus 4 - essentially, you get 4 errors for free, then you target 4%. So in your first 20 posts, you can have 5 errors.
 
ok thanks, perfect!
 
@ArtOfCode So does my +5 ropen vote beat you +4 report? (DnD joke)
 
@ArtOfCode while you are here it could be interesting in your stats to have a link to post that have been invalidate, I know you don't like discussion but with some "warning no discussions allowed" it could be nice for learning reasons
 
2:34 PM
@NathanOliver is not nerd enough
 
I mean in the sd user statistics (invalidate reports)
 
@Yam always request off-site Resources
 
Is the threshold for Yam's posting a chat message like that 25% change of the former revision?
 
@PetterFriberg Yeah, that has potential.
 
2:41 PM
Also in that kind of question a 25% change is nothing special; might it be a good idea to introduce a character limit?
 
Sam
@PhMgBr 20% is the current threshold.
 
I mean, a question with a short sentence that gets closed hardly becomes on-topic with another sentence added, right?
 
Sam
It's impossible to tell accurately without any kind of NLP.
Even then, things can still slip through.
 
@Tunaki How would you have handled this?
 
@SotiriosDelimanolis close as typo maybe
I don't see how the given code could fail
 
2:48 PM
mcve?, we can't know what List he is using?
java.awt.List
 
He eventually mentions in comments
Still, it's a typo because it's not what he meant to use, right?
 
com.sun.tools.javac.util.List <-- oh yeah. I'm going for typo
oh the CSS changed. The width of the right side bar is shorter
 
hmm, that seems useful
 
Did the right hand section on SO shrink? I could swear the hot meta post section was wider
 
JAL
@NathanOliver interesting, looks smaller to me too
 
2:54 PM
@NathanOliver you are Ninjad' by Tuna
 
@NathanOliver look 2 messages up
 
you can't ninja me
 
Are you making a meta?
 
Fine go ahead, steal it from me again.
:D
 
2:57 PM
:P
 
This time, get an 'epic' badge or what.
 
It's actually weird because there's lots a whitespace now between the questions and the side bar
 
Sam
Yeah
 
@Serlite I've noticed you've started reviewing! I'll update your session record.
 
@NathanOliver You were ninjad again meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/322423/…
 
3:03 PM
dang and blast. my title is better :p
 
@Tunaki But still getting a horizontal scroll bar zooming to 125%. :/
 
@NathanOliver Oh there's a 3rd one with the same pun :)
 
Diet is "die" with a "t"
 
Oh hey the answerer to that Meta is French
 
@ryanyuyu I just noticed that yesterday!
kinda depressing
 
3:05 PM
@Undo just in passing? Or are you on a diet?
 
I'm 16, and not exactly the type to gain weight.
 
That answer on meta looks like NaA to me, should be comment
@Undo you look younger in your avatar :P
 
@ryanyuyu You still die, it just takes a little longer to say "diet" than "die"
 
@Tushar Multiply by seven to get his real age!
 
Man I really wish SO will fix the code block in quote block formatting on meta. It is getting annoying.
 
JAL
3:12 PM
 
I just talked to an old industry vet from another company
In a meeting
and he was trying to sell me that expert exchange is actually better then SO
I had to google what that even is
 
Sam
rofl
 
"We're like Expert Exchange without the evil"
 
It's actually expertsexchange. Insert spaces where you feel led to.
2
 
Sam
eyeroll
 
3:15 PM
I still have no idea what exactly their selling point is
 
JAL
lol
 
So diamonds *can* do dirty jokes
2
 
so a stackoverflow, with a paywall, more ads, popup ads, and no rep?
 
@Magisch He must've been using a very unusual definition of "better".
 
@Kyll hey, that's the domain they registered. They had to have seen that at some point :P
 
3:16 PM
@Magisch And no halpful flagz count?
 
But all jokes aside
what business model is that
less appealing stack overflow with less contributors?
 
JAL
Is there enough information in this question to answer it? If there was a server error, shouldn't the server code be provided in the question?
 
It worked for your industry vet
 
Yeah but thats a guy that still thinks windows 98 is modern
 
@Magisch The model is if you pay for it it has to be better. It self promotes itself.
 
3:20 PM
@Magisch Note that they came first.
 
@JAL Answers seem to support that view yea.
 
Mhm
 
@PhMgBr Not always the best thing though
 
Im not paying 15 quid to find out if there is something worthwile behind all the ads
 
JAL
@Adriaan The answers on that question are a cesspool. I don't want to touch them with a 10 foot pole
 
3:21 PM
Plop!
 
Me wonders if someone is going to get a talking to about this.
 
@Kyll Certainly. I meant that it's natural that they're less fluffy than SO.
 
But I like fluffy SO
Im a fluffy contributor (a cat)
relish in my luxurious fur
 
JAL
Why do we even have ?
> Please DO NOT USE THIS TAG. It is meaningless for categorizing your question.
people are great at listening to the tag description...
 
42 questions
 
JAL
3:24 PM
Maybe we can burn that tag and related questions next
 
Does EE have chat with various crazy programmers with furry avatars?
 
Serlite passed a audit!
 
I don't think anyone actually reads the tag excerpts. There was a meta where a fairly high rep user used the wrong tag where the tag excerpt says something completely different then what they used the tag for.
 
@JAL yes please
@NathanOliver I read them. Then again, I have asked a whopping 5 questions in my carreer
 
JAL
I just had that problem with . People were using it to ask questions related to Google's YTPlayerView for iOS, not the YTPlayer web library. Ended up cleaning up the tag and retagging everything unrelated with
 
3:26 PM
Yeah, the tag (for MS Unity) was misused so often for Unity3D, it eventually had to go. Giant warnings in tag wikis do absolutely nothing, it seems. XP
 
reminds we of the why wont it read episode of southpark.
 
JAL
@Serlite oh yeah I remember that problem when I was working with Unity in college. People post so much crap and it's mostly new users
 
Wow, what a downpour.
The sound's literally like someone is splashing water on our house.
 
@Magisch Relish? Better than mustard, I guess.
Let's see... Out of cv, check. Out of deletes, check. Dad joke, check. That's a pretty complete day!
 
@Mogsdad Did you push buttons today?
 
3:31 PM
@Mogsdad Bah, so perfect. Too perfect.
 
@Mogsdad Out of votes? Out of flags?
 
Ever get the feeling you're mind-controlled?
 
Quit slacking
 
Out of edits?
 
You have post flags and comment flags left.
So go to work.
 
3:32 PM
Go downvote all of Tunaki's posts.
 
^
 
@Kyll I'm in a meeting currently, and received a bunch of pings. Judging by the look on the presenter's face... yes, I've pushed buttons!
 
Probably the best thing about expertsexchange is that its horribleness was one of the motivations behind the creation of Stack Overflow. From blog.codinghorror.com/introducing-stackoverflow-com "Stackoverflow is sort of like the anti-experts-exchange (minus the nausea-inducing sleaze and quasi-legal search engine gaming) meets wikipedia meets programming reddit".
 
Yeah go ahead. Downvote them all at the same time also. All of them.
 
@Tunaki Flagging w/o close votes is bad for blood pressure.
 
3:33 PM
@Mogsdad Does it decrease it, or increase it?
 
Also see blog.codinghorror.com/whos-your-arch-enemy "I never appreciated how easy Experts-Exchange makes it for us. They are almost universally loathed. We don't just have a rival, we have a larger than life moustache-twirling, cape-wearing villain to contrast ourselves with. "
 
Just something out of topic: Regarding that downvotes on VHDL posts, do you think that this is possible?
 
JAL
Is this appropriate for SO? Too broad? (attracting new poo)
 
3:38 PM
Fishy. Seen that link before?
 
@JAL I'm not sure if it's TB, yes but these types of questions are appropriate. They might be considered borderline by some people, and might be better fit on hardware website. In my opinion it is on-topic.
Looks like "sd f"
 
cyberduck is a legit tool AFAIK
 
@AshishAhujaツ I think it doubtful.
 
JAL
yeah not spam
 
N?
 
3:39 PM
It's not spam, but link-only
should be deleted.
 
@PhMgBr Ok. And that's a very civil response from the Experts-Exchange Site Admin.
 
@Kyll User removed from blacklist (6278041 on stackoverflow.com).
 
@PhMgBr You blacklisted that user when you shouldn't have :) chat.stackexchange.com/transcript/message/29439884#29439884
it was self-vandalism, i.e. tp-
 
dang @Tunaki ninjas me again.
 
3:41 PM
on it. Actually, he self-deleted so meh
 
sigh Of course @Nathan
 
Thank gods the French tpu police is around?
 
@Undo I still rolled it back :)
 
JAL
can we get an sd hon command for all our French brethren to use?
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or !!/baguette
 
@Tunaki O_o That was meant for the above message.
 
JAL
3:51 PM
^ abusive, look at the link
 
Nuke
 
Total NSFW
 
JAL
yeah don't click that
 
poof
 
And plagiarism.
 
3:52 PM
plagiarism, spam, abusive..
 
JAL
@mogs I see you're hitting NATO too
 
I'm out of flags NATOers. Since like 5 hours or more.
 
@JAL Yep - did my daily grooming of the "not enough rep" type answers first.
 
JAL
Does $SITENAME$ no longer work in comments?
 
what do you do about the bounty @cricket_007?
This should very much be removed
 
3:58 PM
@JAL You clicked it?
 
JAL
@mogs all spam by the same user: 1, 2, 3, 4
@Magisch no thank god. I was 15 once too, I know about that site
 
:p
 
Should we mod-flag?
 
@JAL Caught, and flagged all as NAA.
 
Btw
 
JAL
4:00 PM
thanks same
 
@AshishAhujaツ No. Established user, no need to penalize them for pointing at a github repo.
 
JAL
@cricket_007 tempted to mod flag that as too broad
 
@JAL it only has one day left.
 
JAL
meh
Are context-free grammar questions on-topic for so?
migrate this to cs.se?
 
4:04 PM
yes that's off-topic
but migrate? meh
 
ffk
 
@Tunaki Why? Shouldn't it be migrated?
 
you only migrate really good question. I don't think it qualifies
 
okay.
Night!
 
night!
 
4:06 PM
Bye o/
 
JAL
Duplicate answers 1, 2. NAA?
 
@JAL mod flag (if not already automatic)
 
JAL
@PetterFriberg should be automatically raised iirc
 
I think they have to be exactly exact for the auto flag.
 
@JAL I do not know the algoritm, they are not exactly the same...
 
JAL
4:18 PM
woot 2000 helpful flags!
and 80 declined flags \o/
ah good point
 
@JAL slacker
 
It is too broad, though :) Sadly, it didn't accept the close vote.
 
JAL
@Tunaki go eat a baguette
 
Baguette au fromage hon hon hon
Thats the only french I know
 
btw Tuna ninja Nathan and I'm ninja'd by Nathan, this does not look good
 
4:20 PM
No it doesn't @Petter. I suggest a coffee. Strong. Black.
 
This is what happens when a ninja puppy lurks in the room. We all improve our ninja skills so we do not get taken out.
 
time to commute home and play with the kids, that will get me on my toes again, cya
 
have fun
 
@NathanOliver You can try :)
 
JAL
o/ hi Jon
 
4:24 PM
@JonClements I realize it is a futile effort but hey, its something to do :P
 
Keeps ya fit as well!
 
That too. For those rare occasions SO is down and we have to go "outside"
 
outside what is that?
 
You are a brave Ninja if you dare do "outside" - the rumours say that.... :p
 
smells @rene
 
4:27 PM
@rene Its the place with the really really big light bulb.
 
Sends odeur to @mag
 
I love the idea of a sentient flower
I may or may not write a fantasy short based on a guy that grows a sentient flower
 
@SotiriosDelimanolis we have a push to clean up going on in the Campaigns room and its beehive if you are interested
 
@Magisch little shop of horrors?
 
nah more innocent
like a pet flower
where it asks to be watered or asks for fertilizer
 
4:33 PM
thats no fun ;)
You need a flower that will end the world with blurriness.
 
4:55 PM
@Drew I will take a look tonight.
 
cool thx.
 
5:07 PM
afk
 
5:37 PM
afk
 
kaf
kfa
 
So, who wants to do some quantum computing?
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@NathanOliver I do and don't at the same time :)
 
@JonClements Schrodinger's programmer?
I think that might have been his secretary.
 
5:49 PM
@PhMgBr makes a lot of Heisenbugs
"Hey guys, how can we make computing more buzzwordy than quantum? I know, CLOUD quantum computing! Wooooo *opens champagne*"
 
@PhMgBr Not a good thing to be considering how he treated cats :)
 
BOO
 
It wasn't him! It was radioactive decay...and poison...in close confinement.
 
Sam
@NathanOliver wow
 
inorite. That would be fun
 
5:54 PM
all right, I get it, everyone is ignoring me
THANKS
I'll go cry in the corner... :(
 
puts Tunaki in a box. With a little cyanide, an automatic hammer, a Geiger--Muller detector, and a single radium atom.
aaaaaw, don't go:(
 
Sam
@Tunaki It's alright, you can join me in my corner. :)
 
@Tunaki You said you were afk. Only kyll knows when you are back as he can see you on the cameras.
 
But I BOOed :(
 
@NathanOliver away from korner?
 
5:59 PM
@Tunaki Oh. Well in that case we were all scared speachlees ;)
 
@Tunaki You got the anion wrong. It's BOOO-.
 
Chem jokes. Nice.
 
Noice
 
Rice.
 
Lice. ewww
 
6:02 PM
I have a dupe vote on this that will most likely age away stackoverflow.com/q/36965369/1743880. I think a question "how do I do A" is a dupe of the question "how do I do A" (asked years before) answered with "it's a bug, see linked bug". The trick is that this bug is resolved but the same reappared years later.
Thoughts?
 
Hmm. If the same bug is the cause of both problems then duplication seems correct. Otherwise edit to express that the bug that caused one issue is not responsible for this one?
 
Well, the particular bug in the library's code itself may not be the same. But its visible effect is the same. Something that should happen doesn't.
 
@Tunaki I've noticed you've started reviewing! I'll update your session record.
 
Hmm. Well I'd leave it flagged as duplicate for now then. If it turns out it's a different bug then the edit+reopen would be appropriate.
 
6:13 PM
I see it like a canonical "Why doesn't A happen" --> "It should but it's buggy". This answer is valid whatever the version of the library (and the particular issues that makes it buggy are, I find, irrelevant here). Meh. I'll leave it and see how it goes.
 
yeah. This is just a bad situation
 
Wow that's scary: a word-for-word 4 year old dupe stackoverflow.com/questions/10357734/… Exact copy-paste. Check the comments, even funnier.
 
huh
 
@Tuna is this really a dupe‌​? If it is, can you hammer it? It would save 1 vote overall:)
 
@AndrasDeak I saw it before. Tricky.
 
6:21 PM
OK then. I don't know enough domain stuff for this, but 3 dupe votes might be a sign
thanks
 
It is only possible built-in starting from a certain Maven version. And the OP is using a version before that.
So... either you say "upragde you fool" or you build a complicated work-around (which might be possible)
 
I see, thanks
 
Maven is a charm :D
 
I'll leave it then
(give or take a downvote)
 
@Closey commands
 
6:31 PM
@ryanyuyu Here is a list of commands you have permission to run:
add [user id] to [group name] - Manually adds a user to the given permission group.
alive - A simple ping command to test if the bot is running.
approve request [#] - Approves a pending permission request.
commands - Shows this list.
current tag - Get the tag that has the most amount of manageable close queue items from the SEDE query.
help - Prints info about this software.
membership - Shows a list of all permission groups, and the members in those permission groups.
my audit stats - Shows stats about your recorded audits.
 
@gunr2171 Are you in a meeting?
 
@Closey my stats
 
@ryanyuyu You've reviewed 17 posts today. The time between your first and last review today was 5 hours, 28 minutes, and 21 seconds, averaging to a review every 19 minutes and 18 seconds.
 
Beware anyone who is using ImageMagick: techrepublic.com/article/…
 
Ah, I am using it.
 
6:37 PM
Oh it is you. I though it was gunr.
 
LOL: "a new low in the recent plague of unnecessarily named security vulnerabilities."
 
Maybe gunr is too.
 
maybe. I guess we have to wait until he is out of his meeting.
 
I have a small (awesome, of course) utility that batch compresses lots of images. I can gain 500% of disk space from those huge JPEG files, with practically no visible effect.
 
Tunaki passed a audit!
 
6:41 PM
Thats cool
 
It's useful when you want to transfer your thousands vacation pictures :p
 
@rene I've noticed you've started reviewing! I'll update your session record.
 
My camera generates 4Mb jpeg files. I can reduce that to 500Ko (sometimes less) and the picture is still awesome :)
 
^ the picture is abusive
 
yeah abusive troll, just nuke it right there
 
6:45 PM
nobody sullies my home screen :)
 
blame C++ really. Without this tag, you cannot prove that this question would still have been posted :p
 
@NathanOliver yes
 
@Tunaki is that as complicated as for pic in *.JPG; do convert "${pic}" -quality 75 "${pic/.JPG/_converted.JPG}"; done?
 
@gunr2171 okay. not sure if you are using ImageMagick but if you are beware:
13 mins ago, by NathanOliver
Beware anyone who is using ImageMagick: http://www.techrepublic.com/article/imagemagick-users-beware-multiple-vulnerabil‌​ities-leave-servers-compromised/
 
@AndrasDeak It's actually mogrify -format jpg -strip -quality 75 -compress JPEG *.*
but there is an UI :)
 
6:48 PM
@Tunaki Thats alright. Without C++ your Java wouldn't run.
 
ah OK
I just wanted to bash you
 
lol
 
imagemagick is quite ubiquitous. Thank goodness these bugs are not in stuff that people use even more often. Like bash, or SSL
 
@AndrasDeak Like the heart bleed bug?
 
Yeah bash and OpenSSL are definitely bug-free :p ^
 
6:50 PM
or shellshock:P
 
Fun-fact: when shellshock was discovered, all the IT guys at my company had to upgrade every single server and it literally broke hundreds of application
 
wooo:D
 
@Tunaki that's an interesting definition of fun.
 
:D
Fun as is, I wasn't part of those guys that needed to fix the darned app :D
 
That is sounding a lot more fun all of the sudden
 
6:56 PM
They don't let Tunaki near the servers since that incident
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I like the onlooker in the picture just being a cat.
 

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