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12:20 AM
Big presentation tomorrow.
cs:go deadline the day after
long presentation(30 min) next week, plus Prospectus for a Final Paper
Plus a Final Paper for Sol
Somebody kill me.
 
Hey, it works. http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2016/04/i-wrote-isis-beer-funds-in-a-venmo-memo-and-the-feds-detained-my-42/ https://t.co/XmUV1xmxH2
@ThePhD I cant do that because then I would miss you :(
ps: heres a cutesy octopus
 
@Borgleader I raise you a snek
 
d'aww, it looks so friendly
so did you figure out that ast thing?
 
SHRUG.
 
@Mikhail You can get it cheaper if you download it.
 
12:35 AM
@Mysticial Can I download better memory for my brain?
Faster access would be nice, but what I really need is some of that error-detection/correction stuff...
 
I heard sleep helps with error-detection/correction
 
12:51 AM
@milleniumbug Hmm...I've heard of that. Maybe I should try it some time...
 
Now think about it, your alarm clock really is your external hardware interrupt
 
1:12 AM
@Telkitty write(0, interrupt_mask);
 
binary_expression should probably have an enum that specifies the operation
rather than me deriving the class and having to cast to check what the derived expression type is.
Or having to rely on accept and then tunneling through the op...
 
1:37 AM
wassup
Now I'm at work
 
> 'return': cannot convert from 'csgo::dsl::addition' to 'std::_Vector_iterator<std::_Vector_val<std::_Simple_types<std::_List_unchecked_‌​iterator<std::_List_val<std::_List_simple_types<std::pair<const _Kty,_Ty>>>>>>>'
_Kty and _Ty literally have nothing to do with csgo;:dsl::addition
VC++ is literally choking on nothing.
How do I even begin.
What the fuck
Wow
Are you fucking kidding me
Koenig lookup sees that there's a csgo::dsl::variable_id for my key type
Looks inside of the csgo::dsl namespace
finds a templated operator +
and uses it for the iterator + offset it does internally.
.... The iterator doesn't even satisfy the SFINAE requirements for the operator +
I can't... even begin...
variable_id isn't even derived from expression, it can't trigger the SFINAE on this function
WTF VC++
Somebody fucking kill me...
 
1:55 AM
Sometimes I feel like C++ is too heavy
Wow everything is dead
 
Does anyone know how I can find the source ip address of my computer
perferably through the terminal. I need it set the header value in my IP packet
 
Linux or Windows
ifconfig for linux and ipconfig /all on windows
 
thanks
I want the inet address?
 
2:26 AM
Look at the IP address?
 
3:04 AM
my bear complaints fruit?
 
what an odd bear
 
 
2 hours later…
5:07 AM
@DmitriBudnikov How is it your doing? :)
@Telkitty Your avatar picture looks very scary.
 
 
1 hour later…
6:37 AM
@Bartik, pictures? :D
 
Ven
7:18 AM
Yo
@ThePhD github.com/daviddhas/CS-gO/blob/master/include/csgo/… why for (shared_ptr<A> a : b)?
 
lern2auto noob
 
user1804599
Because after all these years ThePhD still writes Java in C++.
 
user1804599
7:34 AM
I stopped drinking soft drinks.
 
Ven
well, I'm more concerned about the copying of a shared_ptr for no reason
 
user1804599
Optimised out!
 
Oh noes
Copying a shared ptr
 
user1804599
Is there a tool that converts PostScript to SVG?
 
You have to copy the shared state, access the shared state and increment the counter
So many things to do
What's more concerning is the lack of namespace there
code += "writeonly uniform " + output->getType() + " " + name + ";\n";
Ouch
I have a feeling this doesn't do what he thinks it does
 
user1804599
7:44 AM
export function mapIf<T, D>(xs: {map: (f: (x: T) => T) => D}, p: (x: T) => boolean, f: (x: T) => T): D {
    return xs.map(x => p(x) ? f(x) : x);
}
 
user1804599
TypeScript y u no higher-kinded types then I could functor.
 
user1804599
Beh this breaks inference.
 
you break my heart
 
@edition didn't take em yet, went back home, ate some lasagne, played sc2 and collapsed
 
@Shoe oh bby let me mend your heart
 
7:56 AM
people still play sc2
 
@coincoin Oh, I must have missed all of those great RTS games coming out in the last months since the last SC2 expansion
 
@BartekBanachewicz BW > Sc2 ;p
 
Ven
@Shoe atomically, even
 
@coincoin what's BW
 
Broodwar
 
7:58 AM
@coincoin then it's clear you haven't really been playing SC2, SC1, or either.
 
Ven
didn't play much LOTV yet
 
@BartekBanachewicz I have played both still continue with SC2 but less ;)
 
people who say that SC1 was better are typically people who just rant to seem cool and oldschool
 
Ven
actually, I spoke to some korean and he says he prefer it because nostalgia, mostly. Also because it was more mechanically requiring
 
For me "more mechanically requiring" is essentially "worse"
 
Ven
7:59 AM
yes, just like I'm sure you hate korean MMOs because of the constant grinding :). Different tastes.
 
it required you to focus on the dumbest things
 
@BartekBanachewicz Actually Broodwar is much a better game. Better balance, more interesting to play. It's not about hype, it's just about the game...
 
@Ven dunno, played MU for a while
 
Ven
but this guy, he's just trolling – and bad at it, at that.
 
@coincoin I disagree with all of those statements.
 
8:00 AM
@BartekBanachewicz You can. Have you played Broodwar ?
 
yes, I have.
 
Ven
sure did as well
 
I remember playing my last SC1 tournament
it was after I was already playing SC2
in the last game I just said "fuck it I'm not playing that shit" and walked out
the game was just so mind-numbigly primitive and annoying, and the strategic options were limited af at my skill level
As a player in say top-35% (that's top of Gold I believe) I feel I have much more options to do compared to SC1
the games also look much more different from each other, which really didn't happen with SC1
in SC1 every unit could be used pretty much for one purpose, and in SC2 pretty much everything forms much nicer combinations
There's also a shitload of new game mechanics that didn't exist before
 
@TonyTheLion <3
 
And as for the "balance", the game is obviously geared toward pro balance, so the worse you are, the worse you'll hit it; but IMHO it's only problematic to people e.g. in bronze trying to pull out infestors; so something they simply can't play with yet
First 100 games are gonna be about macro anyway, regardless of what units you produce, and the balance of the units themselves doesn't really matter there. When you progress, it will even out.
 
8:06 AM
@BartekBanachewicz I think the problem with BW is that indeed you need to have a decent level I guess to enjoy it.
And I disagree with your statements
In SC1 units combinations are far more complex
Micro and macro really have a meaning here
there is no macro in SC2
compared to SC1
 
I'm done here.
 
I have played a lot of SC2
 
lol
A successful bartekscussion
@coincoin What's up coincoin, how's GPU opportunities
 
I'll just leave this here
 
cancer phase 1 and 2
 
8:09 AM
@coincoin good, so keep playing it and ranting how sc1 was better
 
@BartekBanachewicz You don't like when people disagree with you ?
 
@coincoin I like how you disagree with yourself.
 
Give this man a psychiatry degree.
 
@BartekBanachewicz Why that please explain !
 
no space before compound punctuation in English you French
 
8:11 AM
@coincoin if you really thought that SC1 was better, you'd go and play SC1 with everyone that think it's better.
 
But the reality, which you'll refuse to admit, is that SC2 is just a game that's much more fun and you're ranting on it because it's not SC1 which you feel nostalgic about.
 
@BartekBanachewicz I still play SC2 more than SC1 actually nowadays because I have less time and SC1 is more demanding.
 
like the vast majority of people
which is frankly pretty annoying
 
@BartekBanachewicz I agree there's more "fun" in SC2 but it does not make it a better game
2
 
8:13 AM
sigh
why are you arguing with bartek
 
@BartekBanachewicz I just say that competitive SC2 is bad compared to SC1. Actually I enjoy Sc2 casually
 
you may as well have a constructive discussion with the closest piece of furniture
 
@DmitriBudnikov Why not ;)
 
@coincoin what tier are you at now in sc2?
 
@DmitriBudnikov You are looking for GPU opportunities ? (I don't do GPU anymore)
 
8:14 AM
RIP, what do you do now
 
@BartekBanachewicz I'm master
 
Then dunno, perhaps at that level it's actually less fun
But that's an awful minority of players
 
@DmitriBudnikov I do some PHP and javascript (very RIP)
 
lol that's beyond deceased and decomposed
 
RIP in peace
 
8:15 AM
@DmitriBudnikov Later I will be a business analyst
 
this is the terminal phase
 
@coincoin so you're gonna do those?
 
@BartekBanachewicz aha actually I hope not. But we never know...
Just that everytime I do some PHP I suffer
 
that's your brain defending itself
it's like mental vomiting
 
You don't know pain until you write perl and xml schemas.
 
8:20 AM
... in PHP!
 
8:31 AM
@ThePhD What what.
Is this interface really f(thing, name_of_thing, thing2, name_of_thing2, ...)?
 
@coincoin lol
@coincoin so how's business
is good technology > dank memes or what
(for the context, coincoin's employer's competitors slapped dank memes all over the subway as their ad campaign)
you gotta choose where to spend the money right
 
subway is dank
 
@slaphappy Aha good. I m also doing some marketting in order to find better memes for the subway.
 
They were shitty memes anyway
 
Actually it feels like we have to spend tremendous amount of money for communication/marketting. And it smells like bullshit
 
8:41 AM
smells like parisian subway
 
bullshit world
 
marketing is one t
 
I don't care i shit on marketttting
 
I'll be in Paris June 23-30, btw.
 
I'll be around.
 
8:42 AM
@coincoin Your company still doesn't know french capitals take accents
 
Now I am going to cash in all the street creds I have here with this question: Does Java have any kind of futures like C++ with .then support?
 
you mean useful futures
 
Ven
@R.MartinhoFernandes cool!
 
.then??
 
c++ future is such a joke
 
8:43 AM
Futures, right.
 
ah lol
 
Ven
@BartekBanachewicz what's your tier?
 
There's bound to be some hopeless schmuck trying to make himself famous by writing better java futures
 
Ven
@Shoe Perl is fun :[... XML schemas on the other hand...
 
@Ven Pleb
 
Ven
8:45 AM
@DmitriBudnikov hey :[
 
@Ven Unranked LotV yet, got a pretty confident Gold in HotS
 
Ven
@BartekBanachewicz playing as?
 
@Ven His tier
 
8:45 AM
notice the "VULGAR"
 
@slaphappy Well, more power to such hopeless schmucks!
 
Ven
alright. I should've played a bit more to get gold... but playing random it's a bit harder. (70+% as T, 14% as ZvP hahahahaha)
 
good luck sifting through shitty implementations on GH thou
 
Ven
so, I need to compare two vector in a case-insensitive manner, what'd be the most efficient manner? std::equal with some kind of "view" modifier... or something? ugh.
 
8:47 AM
@R.MartinhoFernandes Oh, nice!
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes I don't get the joke
also why is numeric "-1/2"
 
@DmitriBudnikov How do you know my company :o
 
^ TIL obtrude
 
@slaphappy How is life in London ?
 
Ven
8:48 AM
Guess I'm thinking of boost/range/adaptors..?
 
@slaphappy It's less than zero thirds!
Mar 29 at 16:18, by R. Martinho Fernandes
@wilx Since the single known usage of "half-eight" (which is so called because it is the normal "eight" digit with a slash) represents 7.5 (which is known because the stamp value is known), whoever assigned the values to all ten half- digits assigned them one half less than the value of the underlying digit, so half-zero ended up with -0.5.
 
@coincoin I wouldn't know
 
@slaphappy Tell me
 
@coincoin I'm still there, submitting notice today (should have been yesterday but I was too busy)
I'm going for NYC atm
 
@coincoin it's public knowledge
 
Ven
8:56 AM
Guess there's no way to give a custom comparison function for elements of a C++ vector. sigh
 
user1804599
> Prime Minister Cameron ordered the British air force to carry out drone attacks on his political opponent Jeremy Corbyn.
 
@slaphappy wow other company ?
 
Ven
onion?
@slaphappy nous abandonne pas frer
 
@coincoin ???
 
@Ven I'm fairly sure I'd hit plat if I played more
But now I'd need to get into LoTV changes
 
Ven
9:03 AM
@BartekBanachewicz right. I'd have asked for tips on how to approach ZvP a few months ago, even :P.
 
> The number of people predicting the end of Moore's Law doubles every year.
 
Ven
keep getting void rayped and stuff
 
@Ven w/o hearing anything else, I'd say you're not pressuring enough if that happens
you can't back off in this matchup.
 
Ven
makes sense
better rush speed to get some map control. stuff like that
I always 3rax'd protoss as terran, and that worked very well :D.
 
if he keeps thinking "omh I need more cannons and more zealots", you won't have to fear rays
@Ven honestly in silver you could 14-pool ZvP pretty consistently, at least in HotS and WoL
 
Ven
9:05 AM
14 pool is pretty standard, yeah.
 
in gold I typically went for 7RR which worked surprisingly good, esp against forge expands
 
Ven
7RR was also my strategy of choice on small maps, when I really wanted to win... But doesn't feel very nice
 
meh.
silver strategies are supposed to make you win, not feel nice
you need the basics well executed before moving on to nicer units, imho
say if you see yourself at 5000/2000 resources at 15:00 that doesn't mean you should spend that on high-tech now; that means you've failed at spamming roaches.
 
Ven
macro isn't the thing I'm the worst at, dying to an unscouted all-in is
if I just want to win, I can cannon rush every game and win with that
well, or 10 pool, or w/e
 
@Ven one of the big points in rush is keeping you at sente
the hard part is how to transition that into longer, more extended openings where you don't literally see the opponents base every second
you need to have a feel for what he has and scout whenever you're losing it
against protoss I'd say that you're given much more tools up until at least 20:00 to have full control of the game
 
9:12 AM
@Ven If you re silver I would suggest to know to macro properly on one base and play safe to counter all ins. The more confident you ll be the faster you will take your expand.
 
but yeah I guess coincoin's advice would be better here, since he's 3 leagues above me :P
I'm gonna do placements this week and see how long it takes me to get to gold
 
Ven
how do you counter a void ray all-ins on these awful maps
back to case-insensitive vector comparison...
 
user1804599
Is there something like Nassi–Shneiderman diagrams for declarative code?
 
VR are a hindrance y... If you know he s camping and VRing you outmacro him I guess t's the best solution
not the easiest
 
> Mineral count on 4 of 8 Mineral Fields per base decreased from 1500 to 900
what the fuck
 
user1804599
9:15 AM
Nassi–Shneiderman diagrams are really stupid.
 
user1804599
They're literally imperative code with lines between the statements.
 
@BartekBanachewicz Since LOTV I find the game more fucked up. I prefer the way it was before what about you ?
 
Ven
does as well
 
@coincoin I have to read all of those patch notes to get a feel for that. I think I like having a base full with workers though
> Brood Lord
Attack Range increased from 9.5 to 11
oh boy oh boy
 
Ven
broodlords are pretty good right now.
Also as a terran, fuck ultras. Fuck this shit
 
9:17 AM
> Swarm Host
Cost changed from 100 Minerals, 200 Gas, 4 Supply to 200 Minerals, 100 Gas, 3 Supply.
oh booooy
 
Ven
no one uses SHs
 
I had a game where I almost won using them
in the end lost because of my stupidity
 
Ven
'twas in HoTS
 
yeah also wtf is with the energy ability changes
> Chrono Boost
Energy Cost removed.
Is now permanently channeled onto a target. By default targeted on the Nexus when created.
 
Ven
right
 
9:19 AM
> Spawn Larvae
Reduced Spawn Larva count from 4 to 3
Can be queued multiple times upon the same town hall (Hatchery, Lair & Hive).
By casting Spawn Larvae upon a currently incubating town hall, that town hall will instantly start incubating the next 3 eggs after the current batch is complete
 
Ven
it's a bit like priests in Age of Mythology.
 
this is actually dumb as fuck
those energy spendings were supposed to add apm
 
Ven
you can q multiple times if you have the energy for it only, AFAIK
 
yeah I know but still
 
Ven
so it means you forgot some to start with.
 
9:20 AM
mmmaybe
it allows people who forgot to catch up more easily
 
Ven
guess std::equal(a.begin(), a.end(), b.begin(), cmp) should work. But I need to check length before. The b.end() variant requires C++14...
 
wtb std::equal(a, b, cmp)
the prophet will save us
 
hmm I have to say that "every unit has an ability" in LotV doesn't really appeal to me
 
Lord Of The Vings
 
Ven
9:37 AM
@DmitriBudnikov always
 
user1804599
Scala has the best module system.
 
does someone have any clues,
how to translate matlab to c++
 
Ven
I did that last time.
then I woke up and translated R to C++ instead
 
what did u translate?
 
user1804599
Don't feed the troll.
 
user1804599
9:50 AM
Especially when they are incapable of pressing the Y and O keys.
 
Ven
yo. (<- I even pressed the "." key!)
 
aha, this chatroom is too high for me,
10
thanks anyway
 
@Zoidberg why no longer a pretty girl as profile pic?
 
he is becoming ven
 
10:13 AM
does anyone know why std::getline(std::cin, someString) will only let me type one char? 0.o
 
it won't you're just being bad
 
how on earth is this happening..
 
Ven
@JohanLarsson hey, rude :(
I did nothing to deserve that.
 
is it possible to ask qt question here? there is no other room for that!
 
Ven
There is stackoverflow
This is a chat, not a helpdesk when you suffer from hubrid
 
10:20 AM
ok ... i thought that this is chat.stackoverflow .... :)
 
Holy fuck sciencemag.org/news/2016/04/… (big real heart picture on top in case you're squeamish)
 
i had a tendency to use the chat just to ask for help all the time, it doesn't help you much xD
http://loungecpp.net/the-law/the-rules/
 
@lord.h Questions usually go on stackoverflow.com/questions/ask
You know, the part that says "Questions" all over it.
@Ven Hmm, yeah, maybe don't read it at all if you're squeamish
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes ....OK .... now i found out... this is chat... and this chat is not about C++ ... maybe it's about pig hearts alive in baboons ... :)
 
10:34 AM
you shouldn't take that on that view when people on here even give you a link to help you getting started :)
people, people, people. it's just a sloppy 5 days left to GoT
 
> Edits must be at least 6 characters;
Get knifed
@R.MartinhoFernandes Some people would be helped with a pig's brain
 
Ven
10:56 AM
picnic at proleague :[
 
Ouest Side gro
 
Ven
yo frer
t'as vu que le sir kbok se barre à nyc
 
sisi
 
KBO des milliers d'euros sa rémunération
 
11:10 AM
What was the site where one could get scientific papers for free?
something.io it was, I think.
 
are you looking for legal channels, @wilx?
 
@ScarletAmaranth No. :)
There was this Russian scientis who started this site somewhere on the .io domain and I cannot remember the FQDN of it.
 
 
I would try an... organization with book Operating System @wilx
 
user1804599
> Ahmet Davutoğlu: "If there were a test on humanity globally, then Turkey would be the only country on the world to pass the test"
 
user1804599
11:15 AM
loooooooool
 
what is funny?
 
@ScarletAmaranth I am a simple man. Do not speak to me in riddles. I could not solve them to save my life.
 
@orlp looks like a fractal of sorts, potentially mandelbrot of some arbitrary depth
 
@ScarletAmaranth buddhabrot :)
I made it
 
> You can also use the handy feature of the German language to construct your own personal Nouns, for example if you want to say "this olive oil which is used for improving the taste of salads made from uncooked vegetables", you can say "Rohkostsalatgeschmacksverbesserungsolivenöl".
 
11:16 AM
or rather, I wrote the program that rendered it
 
helpful tutorials
 
sci-hub.io it was, I think.
 
@DmitriBudnikov Well damn, you should complain more often :P
 
user1804599
@JohanLarsson the stupidity
 
@wilx one of few advantages of being an academic is that you have access to those for free; but to be honest - if you want something particular, you can ask the author directly on research-gate and I've never had anyone decline a request for their paper
I've had authors send me a pdf of their stuff which si behind 70$ currented paywall in some pretentious magazine
 
Ven
11:26 AM
lol
 
@ScarletAmaranth I am not a researcher, I am a private citizen. I have no institutional access to those. I just use Google Scholar to find them. If there is no link to PDF or HTML found by Google Scholar, I cannot access them.
 
@wilx ping the author on research gate
I can almost guarantee they will just email you the pdf without any problem
 
Contacting the authors is too much work and since I am not actually researching the topics and I am not actually another researcher, I feel I should not bother the people.
 
> actually researching
pff
 
it doesn't bother them, most of them are quite happy if someone's interested in their work
you don't need to fill in an official request you know :P it's not unlike: "hey there, cool paper <that one>, mind sending me a pdf on wilx@gmail.com? thanks!"
 
11:46 AM
If you need to build the application why are you giving us the requirements? — Borgleader 6 secs ago
 
Ven
@TonyTheLion needs more stuff
 
Suggestions go to the Pirate
 
nwp
@ the Pirate need a feature request field
with voting
and avatars and reputation and completion statuses and moderators
which requires a server farm to scale up into the clouds and ...
 

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