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8:07 PM
@gunr Did you vote on that one? stackoverflow.com/q/9606702/1743880 I don't find it particulary unclear.
 
Yes. Let me do an edit and I'll retract the vote
 
Okay, awesome :)
 
Tunaki passed a audit!
 
@Tunaki edited and retracted. Still might be too broad, but I'll let it go
 
@Tunaki Define lighther?
 
8:14 PM
@PetterFriberg Yes it might be too broad because of that. Although there must be a somewhat agreed definition of lighter no?
 
When speaking of colors you use brightness ... seems unclear what he means with lighter?
 
@Drew I was asking for clarification only. You linked to a comment by Gunr (American), so I didn't feel I could assume you were coming to your country's defense, although it appears that was your poorly expressed point. Following up by your additional comments about heroism and saving someone's ass (whose, not clear) would certainly have made up for any "anti US stance" you inferred incorrectly.
 
JAL
This appears to be a rant, not an answer. Flag?
 
@gunr2171 Yes thats clear since it is brightness... but lighter = brightness?
 
8:16 PM
@PetterFriberg Hue, saturation, and lightness is another term for HSB, although I recall seeing at least one paper a while back that distinguished them.
"them"= lightness and brightness.
 
@JAL Looks like a long comment indeed.
@PetterFriberg The OP is probably not a native speaker also so it's possible they have the appropriate word wrong. For me, lighter = brighter yeah.
 
"This is not my personal opinion." but....but it is!
 
@JAL I don't see any attempt to answer the question, so it's a comment.
@gunr2171 ...and I invoke the names of the unknown experts as proof!
 
@Mogsdad You've activated my trap card!
 
@Tunaki Yeah probably, but it remains a bit unclear... For me not, brightness is well defined while never heard of lighter but if @JoshCaswell has well ok...
 
8:20 PM
@PetterFriberg You could leave a comment. Maybe the OP will come back.
 
@gunr2171 Yu-gi-oh? Pokemon?
 
@PetterFriberg Now, I guess I should clarify that I didn't look at the question until after I replied to you...I'm not certain that the asker is concerned with that distinction.
 
@Mogsdad magic the gathering :)
anyways...
 
Or even aware of it...
 
No discussion is mostly to understand, I had that in review and skipped so I was intrested in your discussion
 
8:21 PM
@Closey Whazzup?
FR: that should be equivalent to "next 5 tags..."
 
For whatever it's worth, Wikipedia gives primacy to the term "HSL": en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HSL_and_HSV "HSB" is a redirect to that article.
 
aww.
 
@JoshCaswell Thanks
 
@JoshCaswell Nice find indeed.
 
8:23 PM
@PetterFriberg Sure thing!
 
Now we should ask our self is OP asking for this : ) or is he searching something else..
 
@Mogsdad I've noticed you've started reviewing! I'll update your session record.
 
@PetterFriberg Right. As to that, I can't tell.
 
@PetterFriberg light and dark refer to brightness :-P
(that's my expert opinion as a native English speaker)
 
@TylerH Lightness, value, The "brightness relative to the brightness of a similarly illuminated white". : ) do not what that means but I guess you are right
 
8:34 PM
yeah
brightness is just how it appears to us
not necessarily a more luminous amount
like in astronomy
 
^already got a couple of answers, needs to be closed (and preferably nuked)
 
Mogsdad passed a audit!
 
There are no items for you to review, matching the filter "[guidelines] [opencv] [frontend]"
 
K/O'd
 
someone on guidelines?
 
8:45 PM
@Tunaki You've reviewed 60 posts today (of which 2 were audits), thanks! The time between your first and last review today was 9 hours, 42 minutes, and 9 seconds, averaging to a review every 9 minutes and 42 seconds.
 
I have a couple of votes left, ready to seed.
 
@KevinBrown I've noticed you've started reviewing! I'll update your session record.
@rene I've noticed you've started reviewing! I'll update your session record.
 
Look at that: we have a guidelines question answered by Shog himself stackoverflow.com/q/60673/1743880
 
Kevin Brown passed a audit!
 
@Tunaki With a historical lock as well
 
8:50 PM
Yup, trouble ahead...
 
@Tunaki I'm in the CVQ now
 
A user has created the tag and has started adding it to questions which seem to have nothing to do with "codecademy". What should be done here?
 
JAL
@WaiHaLee remove the tag, reject any pending edits, ping the user and tell them to stop
 
@WaiHaLee reject
 
JAL
@Tunaki can we flag that for deletion or tag removal? or is a meta post the best option?
 
8:53 PM
I feel like I've seen that tag in the past somewhere. And it got burninated.
 
JAL
2 is the tag wiki
 
No other ones are pending. I remove the tag where the edit was approved. All is well.
 
Jeez, you guys are fast. Saw your actions. Thanks all. :)
 
@JAL we are united on our reject reason
 
JAL
two more Tuna
@rene <3
 
8:57 PM
They really want to edit that wiki. :/
 
JAL
should we ping the user?
 
@JAL you don't ping, you delete now:P
congrats!:)
 
JAL
only questions, not answers, but thanks
 
@WaiHaLee Problem solved :D
 
@Tunaki :)
 
8:59 PM
The proposed tag wiki almost sounds like spam actually.
 
JAL
Hey Amanuel, I see you've been trying to add the codecademy tag to some questions. Please note that this tag is too general to be useful on Stack Overflow, and should not be used. Please do not add this tag to any posts as editing it in adds noise to the Suggested Edit queue and the question itself. If you have any questions, please feel free to reach out to me in the SOCVR chatroom. — JAL 50 secs ago
that sound ok?
edited the comment to address the noise in the queue and to the tags
 
@Tunaki I like how this suggestion says "Please use this tag appropriately." after it was added inappropriately.
 
@AndrasDeak I've noticed you've started reviewing! I'll update your session record.
 
thanks
 
They just had the privilege to create tags. Nice comment @JAL
 
9:02 PM
that was quick ----------vv
 
@JAL reads well - if they've not been banned from suggested edits, this reads like it should stop them.
 
Andras Deak passed a audit!
 
JAL
don't want to sound mean, just want to help the user
if I'm not around I trust you guys will help guide this user why this tag shouldn't exist if they come into the room
 
nope, we'll drag you out of bed and force you to talk
Hello @AmanuelBogale!
 
Um...
Hello Guys?
 
JAL
9:05 PM
Hi @AmanuelBogale
 
Hey @JAL I
I added the Tag on purpose
 
JAL
I see you saw my comment about the tag
 
Because i have seen many questions that havent been anwsered in discuss + There are sophesticated questions being asked there
And Yes i did.
 
JAL
It doesn't mean that the tag is on-topic for Stack Overflow
 
It is on topic
Stackoverflow Is where "Programming" questions are asked
And obviously the questions in codecademy are related to "Programming"
So it is
 
JAL
9:07 PM
Tags should help to describe what the question is about. I don't see how adding is relevant
Or why the tag should exist in the first place
 
Relevant Meta post @AmanuelBogale: meta.stackoverflow.com/q/275935/1743880 It is about ProjectEuler but it also applies in this case.
 
JAL
Thanks for digging up that post Tunaki
 
@JAL let me fetch 1 from a lot questions asked on staackoverflow about codecademy. Second
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Q: jQuery - Codecademy

HydraClesI'm following the Codecademy "Make an interactive website" course. I don't have an error, but I had a question about something I don't understand: the if-statement used in a slide thing thing thing. if (nextSlide.length === 0) { nextSlide = $('.slide').first(); nextDot = ...

Thats one
 
JAL
Just because the question is about a codecademy assignment doesn't mean that there should be a specific tag for it. Tags should be used for programming constructs and applications, apis, etc. Not the source of the problem
Yes, I can see that.
 
rene passed a audit!
 
9:09 PM
According above
 
congrats rene
 
It is avilale
 
@Mogsdad @Tunaki I think the question came to an end: meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/319744/…
 
JAL
Knowledge of Codecademy is not required to answer the question
 
rene passed an audit!
 
JAL
9:10 PM
Nor is it relevant. Stack Overflow is a programming help site. Why should Codecademy questions be treated any differently than regular questions?
 
@JAL Honestly i think your not understanding the point
 
JAL
@AmanuelBogale I don't think you understand how tags work
 
@AmanuelBogale You don't need to create a codecademy tag for questions. The coding problems can and do exist independent of what causes them
 
So now i dont understand how tags work @JAL . haha
 
be it codecademy, w3schools, etc.
 
JAL
9:11 PM
@AmanuelBogale I noticed you just earned the "create tags" privilege. Did you read the help page on that? stackoverflow.com/help/privileges/create-tags
 
@AmanuelBogale You might want to read this stackoverflow.com/help/tagging. It explains how to use tags.
 
Yes i did @JAL
 
Notice in that page:
> If the tag can’t work as the only tag on a question, it’s probably a meta-tag.
 
First thing i did
So your telling me to move this tag to meta?
 
JAL
I'm saying the tag shouldn't exist at all
 
9:12 PM
@AmanuelBogale No. This is what we call a Meta tag blog.stackoverflow.com/2010/08/the-death-of-meta-tags
 
@AmanuelBogale fixed the title for you
 
JAL
Thanks rene
 
Ok why are 5 people attacking me here..
 
A question tagged only about codecademy would by definition describe that you have a problem with using the codecademy site itself (which is off-topic on Stack Overflow; we're not Codecademy site support)
 
JAL
We're not attacking you, we're trying to educate you and help teach you how the site works.
 
9:14 PM
@AmanuelBogale No one is attacking you, we are just weighing in on the decision to make a new tag
 
JAL
If you keep trying to add the codecademy tags to posts and they keep getting rejected, you might be edit banned
 
After all, you said that JAL didn't understand the point. Hopefully that several other high-rep users have agreed with him, that lends enough weight to his side that you understand :-)
 
The fact is
Im not gonna edit no more
And i did it only once
I already
Have a topic on discuss
Saying to use this tag if its a more sophesticated question or other rules i mentioned there.
Ok @TylerH your saying it should be deleted because @JAL has more reputation. If so... lol
 
JAL
Having a Codecademy tag by itself doesn't make sense for Stack Overflow. Like the help page @Tunaki linked to above. The tag is too general to be of value
 
@AmanuelBogale no, I'm saying that several users who have spent more time using the site than you are agreeing with JAL
 
JAL
9:17 PM
@AmanuelBogale That's not what he's saying. He's saying that other uses with even higher reputation, experience, and time on the site than both you and me agree with me that it shouldn't be a tag
 
@TylerH like?
 
like what?
Between the folks that have responded to this, we have thousands of edits, reviews, and flags between us, and close to a decade of time spent on the site
 
@TylerH who agreed with @JAL?
 
You've been on the site for two months.
 
@TinyGiant I'm so bad with markdown :P stackoverflow.com/a/36228040/3933332 <- How can I make the 2 nested list elements to be directly under the parent elements? Without that gap. I seared on MSE, which suggests to use two spaces after the element, which seems to have no effect.
 
9:18 PM
And i ave been coding since i was 10 years old (5 Years)
 
@AmanuelBogale Me, and Tunaki
 
JAL
@AmanuelBogale @Tunaki, @TylerH, and @rene. @Tunaki and @rene also rejected your edits
 
@AmanuelBogale Okay, coding expertise is in no way relevant to knowledge of Stack Overflow's tagging system
 
All right. I think we started on the wrong foot here. Let's all take a small break.
 
time to head home. o/ all
 
9:21 PM
Let me explain @AmanuelBogale. The tagging system on Stack Overflow, which is described here stackoverflow.com/help/tagging explains what tags are for. Basically, a tag should describe what the question is about.
A tag should not communicate about the content of the question.
 
It is perfectly fine to ask programming questions on SO that are raised due to a user following a codeacademy, project euler, codecamp, w3schools or whatevere online site. Their questions should be tagged with tags relevant to the problem at hand. Where they originated from is irrelevant. The questions are not unique to codeacademy hence no tag is needed.
your example question proved my point.
 
So now there is 6 people...
 
@AmanuelBogale worth reading why meta tags are discouraged
 
@AmanuelBogale No, I was already here ...
I hide in the flowerbed
 
Wait guys.. Let me anwser this person his question and ill be back..
@AmanuelBogale, look, you miss my point. Now if you go to your jsfidle, open dev tool, and hover the label tag, you will see something like this: <label class="ng-scope">1</label>. But what I'd like to have is <label class="ng-scope myClass">1</label>. Because I want "myClass" to apply to each label tag individually. — Great Question 4 mins ago
 
9:26 PM
You see @AmanuelBogale, A PHP question from CodeAcademy can be a perfectly valid question on Stack Overflow. But for Stack Overflow, it is irrelevant that the question came from CodeAcademy: the question could have been a homework question, a real production problem or something else entirely.
 
JAL
Sorry had to step away from my computer. @Rene is always so eloquent with this stuff. How do you do it?
 
Stack Overflow focuses on the question itself, not on where it came from. That's why the tag is not important (and adds no value to the site).
 
JAL
Yes, programming problems are independent from the site they originate on
 
@AmanuelBogale I brought this to the attention of this room earlier. Since then the tag has been removed and the pending suggested edits to add tags/edit its wiki rejected. Why it shouldn't be a tag is explained more eloquently than I could in the posts above. Please note that nobody is attacking you.
We were initially trying to help stop you wasting your time: the tag is considered a meta-tag and its addition to questions will likely be reverted.
 
rene passed a audit!
 
9:28 PM
^^ that exactly.
 
JAL linked to this room in his comment on your question not so that we could pick on you, but to try to explain why we were doing what we were doing.
 
Ok guys i understand.
Sorry for the mess
 
@JAL by not using words that originate from the French language ...
 
JAL
No worries! Thanks for stopping by to chat with us!
 
@AmanuelBogale Don't worry about it, we all learn and move forward :). Thanks for dropping by.
 
9:31 PM
@JAL @Tunaki . No problem! Have a great day!
 
You too, cya!
 
JAL
Thanks you too!
...and on a completely unrelated note, I don't want kids
:P
 
why is that? :)
 
JAL
Oh, you know, "the talk."
 
@Tunaki They are only fun until they start to talk?
 
JAL
9:35 PM
"Son, it's time to talk about logging in production environments."
 
Lol
 
Haha
 
Andras Deak passed a audit!
 
@rene Hm, they're fun when you can't sleep because of them?
 
@Tunaki don't ask me, I don't have kids ...
 
9:37 PM
Me neither :D not ready to have kids anyway
 
@rene You've reviewed 60 posts today (of which 3 were audits), thanks! The time between your first and last review today was 50 minutes and 9 seconds, averaging to a review every 50 seconds.
 
JAL
I'll have kids someday. They'll be like "Dad, no one cars about Swift anymore, I'm using node.js to program my brain." They'll have to be careful about package unpublishing though
 
:)
 
JAL
"Someone unpublished Math 2.7! Now all of our kids are failing their exams!"
 
"Someone unpublished Feelings 0.1-beta! Now all of our kids are robots!"
 
JAL
9:43 PM
Lol
 
Statistics: does spam live longer at the end of the UTC day because everyone is out of flags? ... Or am I just the only one out of flags...?
 
pp_
Well, I flagged it and I'm never out of flags.
 
Huff, I have a markdown problem here: stackoverflow.com/a/36228040/3933332 . I will try to explain my prOBLEM! (red how it should NOT be; green how it should be). Help greatly apprechated :P
(I already found out that the space is a problem with the parent bullet point being wrapped int a p tag. No idea how to change that)
 
9:59 PM
@Rizier123 maybe switch to html coding instead of relying on markdown?
 
@rene Already tried, then I can't have inline code with `code`
Markdown gives me more trouble than actually solving the question.
 
Maybe just give up?
 
Do you really need two levels of bullets?
 
I'm out, back tomorrow
 
Cya
There is only a single item in the second indentation level @Rizier123
I've always had trouble also with sublists like this...
 
10:08 PM
@Tunaki I'm not sure what you mean? If you are referring that in the image the first sub list is correct, that's because I manually did it in the source code to demonstrate how it should be.
 
@Rizier123 I mean this:i.stack.imgur.com/KzzPX.png. You could have the text of those 2 sub-bullets into the main one no?
 
Closey, you're up!
 
@AndrasDeak You've reviewed 60 posts today (of which 3 were audits), thanks! The time between your first and last review today was 1 hour, 8 minutes, and 59 seconds, averaging to a review every 1 minute and 8 seconds.
 
high five
 
low four?
 
10:11 PM
middle three!
 
@Tunaki Ah that red freehand circle mad it clear :D No the subBullets are referring to the parent ones. So it's not an option
 
Up two the skyyyy
 
I am the one and only one! :D
 
@Tunaki I will try, in a few minutes, to dig up some other answers from mine and see if I did that already once
 
Looking for one on my side also...
 
10:18 PM
@Tunaki stackoverflow.com/a/31319276/3933332 found one, now analyzing it.
 
pp_
@Rizier123 Why don't you just remove the blank lines? I think I don't get the problem.
 
@pp_ WUTT?!! How does removing a ling "after" the bullet point affects the space "before" it?!
 
pp_
That's just the way it is, I guess.
 
@pp_ Thanks :P I will star your message in case I have the same problem again.
 
I still haven't found a single answer of mine where I used a second indentation level. I know there is one out there though :D
 
10:25 PM
@pp_ I won't ask now what the logic behind this is.
 
pp_
@Rizier123 What bugs me more than the space is that "output" doesn't start with a capital 'O', lol.
@Rizier123 I think I get the logic behind it, though.
 
@pp_ Do you mean at the end? :D If yes that got a bit into the habit of mine...
 
pp_
@Rizier123 Yeah, I don't like it, it looks inconsistent. not that I care
 
@pp_ Maybe I change my habit at some point and I then have a lot of answers to edit. Somehow I guess that OP won't response to that answer. But I'm satisfied by my answer on its own.
 
10:31 PM
@JAL Lol ok.....
 
Ha I found one!!
 
pp_
@Rizier123 Wow, that would be way too much hassle for me.
 
@AmanuelBogale What is ionic material?
 
@Tunaki its a new Material Design For Mobile!
 
pp_
@Tunaki I don't think I have an answer with sublists, but I remember writing sublists in markdown. SO markdown is the weirdest markdown I ever encountered.
 
@AmanuelBogale Okay. Reading the question, it doesn't seem to be about Ionic. It doesn't appear to be using it?
 
Yes lol
 
So... why did you add the tag?
@AmanuelBogale I don't think this is a useful tag for that question. Is there any particular reason for it? Better to remove it I think.
 
@Tunaki why do you like removing that tag. Im 1000% Sure you have no reason to remove that tag other than the question is invalid. I can find many questions that need the ionic-material tag.
 
@AmanuelBogale I didn't say the tag was bad. I said that this particular question didn't need it. It just so happens to be the only one with it.
 
10:50 PM
MANY Questions that need the tag..
 
Maybe you're right. I don't know about this one.
 
pp_
@AmanuelBogale The fact that this question has nothing to do with the tag is reason enough to remove the tag.
 
@AmanuelBogale and why are you not tagging those?
 
@AmanuelBogale But why does this one stackoverflow.com/q/35110210/1743880 needs it?
 
the one you linked to only has ionic in the tag...
 
10:51 PM
Because they have a lot
No @Tunaki Your absolutely right about that
It does not need it
 
then remove it please
 
But all these need it
1
Q: ionic app to ionic material or angular material

AngryJSJust want to know how can I upgrade my ionic + angularJS app to ionic material + angular or angular matrial + ionic app. I have a lot of code already written and do not want to change whole app. is there any way to inject material to existing ionic app?

 
@AmanuelBogale doesn't matter
 
No i wont @AndrasDeak It does
 
don't tag something that doesn't apply just so that you have a nice tag:P
 
10:52 PM
Matter, stop bieng....
 
tag those post to which the tag applies
 
@AmanuelBogale Before you massively add the tag, I suggest you ask on Meta. There seems to be a already.
 
No im trying to apply that tag. Because there are many questions about it
 
Though I still believ ethat tags should not be created out of thin air
should need 10k rep or something
 
IOnic-framework and Ionic-Material are two diffrent things
Nope you need 1.5k rep
 
10:53 PM
@AmanuelBogale I know, that's why we're having this conversation
unfortunately
 
Yea you dont make the decicons @AndrasDeak
 
Again, let's all take a deep breath here :)
 
@AmanuelBogale I shall not comment:)
 
So you want to create a tag is that right?
 
Its just that stackoverflow is becoming infested by these people
Yes
 
10:54 PM
I sense a burminate-request in the near future
 
@AmanuelBogale you mean people like me?
 
No your attitude
And somone said that
If i was you
 
@AndrasDeak all those pesky very helpful people, yes, terrible
 
Guys. Don't go down this road please.
 
I would be 100% With it
 
10:54 PM
Let's stick with being constructive here.
 
Ok @Tunaki
 
I'm all for constructive:D
 
Sorry i just had my nerves up
 
Why don't we untag this?
 
So. You want to create . And add it on a bunch of questions. Is that correct?
 
10:55 PM
Yes Sir @Tunaki
Just search that in the seach bar
 
Before you do that, I suggest you to ask on Meta what the community think of this.
 
^seconded
 
^thirded
 
Massively adding a tag to existing questions is frowned upon. You're likely to have all of your suggested edits rejected because of that, even if they're helpful.
 
Either you ask it, or someone else will later. Your efforts are better off if you start on meta. Yeah, that ^
 
10:57 PM
Confused..
 
Do you know what Meta is?
 
Ofcourse....
You want me to ask a question there?
 
one tagged with
 
I think you should ask there if the community is okay with the tag being created and added to questions.
 
Ok one second..
 
Sam
10:58 PM
@AndrasDeak You mean, right?
 
You can add a list of questions that you think would be appropriate with it. In short, make a case!
 
Ok @Tunaki il post question here when im done
 
@AmanuelBogale the problem is that if you start without community support, you can end up like this on meta
 

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