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3:01 AM
I prefix my event handlers with 'on'
but apparently its bad and you shouldn't do that
 
@Prismatic ?
 
@jaggedSpire Is that Retarded_bjarneCase?
 
@Prismatic You don't need to say things like that (we take for granted that everything you do is bad and should be avoided). :-)
 
I was told some_type::event and some_type::event_raised is better
@JerryCoffin ouch
 
@MarkGarcia hell if I know. It was some hideous mix of snake and camel
 
3:02 AM
I don't remember why but I asked one of the Qt devs
 
@Prismatic So do I. I'm also bad.
 
@Prismatic The same, of course, is true of everything I post.
 
Thiago or whatever
 
@JerryCoffin like a wrecking ball...
 
@jaggedSpire Sounds like XAML.
 
3:04 AM
@MarkGarcia snamel :p
 
@melak47 S_nAmel
 
HttpClient
Mmmnn
 
Robert
 
@ThePhD in namespace http::client? :)
 
what naming convension do you guys use for xml :p </troll>
 
3:06 AM
in namespace robert
 
@TelkittytheWebDeveloper <ns::avoid_xml/>
 
really? never had to use xml for config files?
 
@TelkittytheWebDeveloper Here at work we mostly use JSON for config files.
 
Buh.
Why are sockets
so hard to deal with
 
@ThePhD whaddya mean?
 
3:10 AM
and why is it so hard to find a lightweight wrapper than isn't also a minefield.
q_q Boostpls.
 
I used tcp::iostream once. was p easy :D
 
Yeah it doesn't get more highlevel/shrink wrapped (for general socket streams)
 
this scarf is going to be unbelievably squishy when it's done
I've managed to get good enough at purling that I can make the scarf go in a zigzag pattern so it's sort of two layers deep
 
Ell
I would think object.on(event_raised, [](){...}) kinda makes sense
 
I wonder what it takes to compile Boost.asio...
 
3:19 AM
hm, exceptions are raised. events just happen :D
 
Ell
@ThePhD boost system
 
@ThePhD ???
 
@AngryLettuce I wanted to just... use a socket, and then wrap the data I get with the SSL/TLS stuff.
But it was getting so neckbreakingly.... complicated.
I've never had such supreme trouble in my existence.
 
Just use read(as_tls(socket())) and viola
Haskell trumps all once again
 
user406009
@AngryLettuce 1/10 Needs more $ operator use.
 
3:35 AM
posted on January 21, 2016 by Yuriy Solodkyy [MSFT]

collaboratively edited by Clang/C2 crew using OneNote We have just released an out-of-band update of Clang/C2 toolset that brings in some of the community fixes as well as bugs found from testing. This is one of many rapid releases to come in the future...(read more)

 
lol OneNote
one step forward, one step back
 
oooh, out of band updates! exciting!
 
kinda wtb operator /. which does the promotion of operands to double
Would avoid the annoying auto blah = thing / static_cast<double>(robert)
auto blah = thing /. robert
tadaaaa
 
3:59 AM
Actually this does point wise division
 
4:34 AM
@AngryLettuce auto blah = thing * 1.0 / robert
 
4:47 AM
Anybody have thoughts on how to draw a simple crosshairs (plus) in a GLSL pixel shader where the input changes every frame? An if statement feels excessive..
 
ya know I’ve never written a fork-exec in my life, I feel like I should correct that at some point
 
Representing 270K years = First World Problem at its finest.CodeAngry 11 hours ago
 
@SashaMN MULTIPLICATION IS SLOW
@Mikhail Why?
@LucDanton I do not believe you
 
@Mysticial it really is
 
@AngryLettuce it’s true
 
4:59 AM
lies
 
5:13 AM
VS goodies: clicked "go to definition", started editing code, realized it was the wrong definition, from a completely unrelated type, in a file from a project I don't even include in this one.
4
/cc @R.Martinho
 
above & beyond
 
@AngryLettuce I am left in awe
 
@Mysticial I want to comment "but the universe is only 6000 years old!"
Will that get me banned @moderators
 
@AngryLettuce remember: SE can’t use your account/likeness to spread their own political message, so you should be good to go
 
splendid
 
5:17 AM
oh god
 
@AngryLettuce I think you should be able to use double { expr } but I’m not 100% sure, it’s something I’ve been meaning to use but I still don’t and don’t remember why
 
actually, have you ever been a fundamentalist Christian, Cacadi?
 
@AngryLettuce Would only get your comment removed I think. Though I know that's not exciting enough for you. :)
 
it maybe that GCC still has (had?) kinks with it, or it’s not as universal as a static_cast is
 
1. get comment removed
2. go to meta
 
5:19 AM
@jaggedSpire Allah willing
 
3. fisticuffs
 
But why would you need to represent 270 000 years when the universe is only 6000 years old? You're asking for a solution to a non-problem. — Angry Lettuce 28 secs ago
b&
 
#disgusted
 
@LucDanton Last night you sort of implied you're familiar with one of the design discussion subreddits. I'm curious, is it /r/designthought?
 
> The bigger problem for me in Portland has been all the pedestrians. People in Texas don't just walk around, so we tend to cruise through stop signs and red lights on turns. In Portland I'm constantly having to scan for people, which on top of not knowing the layout or which streets have stop signs and which ones have right of way makes for more stressful driving.
@jaggedSpire oh no, not at all
 
5:24 AM
@jaggedSpire /r/crappydesign
 
I was making a joke about modal dialogs
 
@LucDanton ah well. Woosh, then. :P
@MarkGarcia thx
heh.
 
you wouldn’t discuss which colour to use for modal dialogs because presumably you’d want to avoid them, in a good design :Þ or so I was led to believe
 
@LucDanton the horror
 
5:26 AM
@LucDanton seems right
 
@jaggedSpire rename link to "HOW TO SUCK AT C🕒CK", reap stars
 
@LucDanton too late
alas for my starb8 shall go naked through the night
 
can’t believe I got it wrong the first time
 
Not your first time then.
 
well
 
5:30 AM
its 27 degrees here.
 
@AngryLettuce in the other direction I don’t think many people realise you can make a right turn at a red light in the US (or, again, so I was led to believe)
 
> How can I humidify a room without a humidifier?
I have some ideas
@LucDanton Yes and that's very accident prone
 
@AngryLettuce wet towels
 
#pitofsuccess
 
to begin with
 
5:32 AM
@AngryLettuce it’s self correcting, one day there won’t be any pedestrian left
 
Nash equilibrium reached
 
> That's why Americans are so fat, because we have so much cuisine. There's Mexican, Chinese, Italian, Indian, etc. food all on the same block. It's impossible to get tired of the food. Whereas people in China only have Chinese food, people in Mexico only Mexican, etc. If you ate Chinese food 3 days in a row, if someone offered you some Lo Mein on day 4 you might say "No thanks, I don't feel for Chinese food today." That's why they're all so skinny.
 
@LucDanton I think it would depend on the junction
 
too bad they used Lo Mein as an example and not a Chinese-American dish, that’s -2 points
 
@LucDanton 10/10
 
5:42 AM
that reminds me, now’s a good time for some baguette
> Use system libclang instead of downloading one from llvm.org. NOT RECOMMENDED OR SUPPORTED!
why provide this flag then ._.
 
for the glory of chaos, of course!
On that note, it is bedtime for me
 
@Rapptz you okay amigo? I know you lurk a lot but without you the banter just feels incomplete
> [ 0%] [ 1%] Building CXX object
nice interleaving
 
6:09 AM
@AngryLettuce just open the window you don't need a humidifier
 
@Rapptz come back you slut
djihad can wait
 
hi
I am playing video games
 
are they gud
 
Et le silence retentit
 
that means they’re really gud
 
6:23 AM
 
Pro console gamer.
 
"Experienced newbie"
 
Fuck. So if you have an object at global scope that holds an std::thread. And the object's destructor joins the thread. It will hang if the code is in a DLL when the DLL unloads.
 
6:41 AM
detach yourself
 
If I detach, it crashes because the thread tries to access the object that's holding it's std::thread. So you'd have to manually join it before main() exits in the client program.
I'm reading about DLLMain. Not sure if that's the right tool.
 
6:56 AM
lmao JS doesn't have deep equality
piece of shit
 
7:28 AM
@Rapptz that actually you, or you trying to mock that person?
 
that is actually me
you can't hear me talk though
the people talking are my team mates
 
oh right, I was going to say you mic is a bit quiet :P
sounds like your people are taking it rather seriously :P
 
7:41 AM
@Mysticial Let me guess, you are using Visual Studio?
 
Xeo
@Mysticial globals are eeeeviiiil~
 
@wilx Yes.
@Xeo I don't disagree. But a global thread pool is one of the few things that sorta made sense to make a global singleton - until now that is.
 
@Mysticial still no
 
@Mysticial Forget about using anything more than malloc and memory manipulation outside of main(). No DLL's loading or unloading. No C++11 threads or mutexes, etc.
 
make a single thread pool at app start, pass that to everything that wants to get threads from a thread pool.
 
7:51 AM
@Mysticial One example of issues with it:
2
Q: C++11 std::mutex in Visual Studio 2012 deadlock when locked from DllMain()

wilxI am seeing a deadlock with std::mutex when the mutex is locked from DllMain() Below is a minimal DLL test case that exhibits the problem for me. My actual code does the mutex locking because it uses member functions that are also usable outside initialization during normal function. I think tha...

 
@thecoshman Cue in Oprah giving threads to everyone in the room.
 
> Visual Studio 2012
topkek
 
PTSD
 
@набиячлэвэлиь It does not matter. Their implementation of C++11 mutexes and threads has not changed that much since then.
 
> Check the Best Practices for Creating DLLs document: You should never perform the following tasks from within DllMain: [...], Synchronize with other threads. This can cause a deadlock.
@milleniumbug nice
 
8:01 AM
@набиячлэвэлиь It's quite normal to use MSVC when talking about DllMain
The fact that it also mentions C++11 (or even C++) is tangential
 
Isn't DllMain() a Windooze thing, rather than an MSVC thing?
 
@набиячлэвэлиь Yes.
 
That means, that all reasonable people will use a compiler (a.k.a. not MSVC)
 
@wilx Interestingly it worked as a self-contained binary. But not inside a DLL.
@thecoshman That will take some re-architecturing since the code wasn't designed with that in mind. So I can't just inject an extra parameter into 20 levels of function calls. But it's technical debt that needs to be paid at some point. Since a thread pool (or more generically, "a parallel framework") isn't the only "global"-like object that is accessed deep in the code.
I'm actually going to disable my custom thread pool in the DLL version. Even though it's the most efficient when it's used properly, it will probably blow up if you throw a million tasks at it. The Windows thread pool is probably more robust than that.
 
8:14 AM
@AngryLettuce tl;dw
 
"RAII is bad & confusing"
"I am retard"
 
Pretty much that
@AngryLettuce Hehe, c++ has "a few nice things" like "default arguments". Ok. He doesn't like good arguments. Default arguments are the best :) #irony
 
8:29 AM
@Mysticial yeah, it can be tedious to realise that you have this long chain of object creation, and the very first object is the place to create something that needs to be passed all the way down
 
user1804599
> exempting works produced by the public sector from copyright protection
 
user1804599
ewwwwwwww
 
why ewww
 
user1804599
because that's a horrible idea
 
what a convincing argument!
 
user1804599
8:32 AM
because many things in the public sector should really be privatised
 
probably
but if the result of your research has been obtained through public fundings, I don't see why it shouldn't be public
 
user1804599
@AngryLettuce oh wait, this means that public sector output is in public domain?
 
that's how I interpret it at least
 
user1804599
I thought it meant the public sector can use whatever they want without worrying about licensing.
 
No it means that if your work is funded by the public sector, you cannot claim copyright on it
 
user1804599
8:35 AM
then it's a very good idea.
 
Like for example, you are a researcher at a public university
 
user1804599
not ewwwwwwww!
 
You get public funds to work on sth, and then you make your company based on your work to monetize it
 
user1804599
yes that should be forbidden
 
Well then if someone decides to copy you, you can't attack them on copyright
And same thing, when my govt funds researches, I would want it to be publicly accessible
Not sure if that's the case atm?
 
user1804599
8:41 AM
Only if you kiss Mao's feet.
 
Ven
yo
 
> reviewed by Dilip Kumar and Amit Kapila.
ducks
 
geese
 
"Your password is safely encrypted, only our customer service agents can see it" https://t.co/zSbSX644UN
Who does that
 
8:52 AM
lol
 
I tried to touch gloox 1.0.14. It went wrong... sprunge.us/AgZL?cpp Do you know what's going on?
 
@набиячлэвэлиь Apparently some company out there.
 
yo; guys
 
Ven
yo yo yo
 
8:56 AM
salut les french zizis
 
one of my students wants a noob c++ book recommendation
 
Harry Potter and The Goblet of UB
 
should I tell him to "buy" C++ primer or the bjarne book?
 
Star Wars: attack of the copy constructors
 
@slaphappy bjarne
 
user1804599
8:59 AM
@slaphappy If only there were a definitive C++ book guide and list on Stack Overflow.
 
Hey
 
omg itsa shoe
 
hi jefery
 
I just had an idea to find the girl @AlexM.
 
alex is a girl?
 
9:00 AM
no
 
@MadameElyse I'm looking at it right now, but now I have to choose only one book.
 
She goes to my university and I can guess that she finished her lessons right before taking the train
 
user1804599
@slaphappy give the noob the definitive guide and list.
 
I thought you hated girls @Shoe
 
9:01 AM
Since in this period there are very few lessons, I can find all departments that finished that time
 
I tried to touch gloox 1.0.14 again. It went wrong again.. sprunge.us/cGKe?cpp Can you tell me what's going on?
 
Also, I wish C++ grammer required a space before binary operators so we could have identifiers like your-mom-is-fat
 
write F# then you can use ``your mom is fat``
 
Then I can go day by day for each of these department and see when she takes my train
 
as an identifier
 
9:02 AM
And filter the results with that
inb4 she doesn't attend and she was just there for an exam or some other one time thing
 
just don't become a weird creep
 
Do I sound like one right now?
 
Ven
@AngryLettuce grammer c++zi
 
@Shoe yes
 
user1804599
OMG python people how many AttributeErrors will it take
 
9:03 AM
@Shoe if you remove the parts where you want to stalk her or not?
 
Ok, maybe I should let go
 
Ven
@AngryLettuce you can do that in Perl 6.
 
fine idea
alternatively you can try to find out what her circle of friends is
and get in there via induction
 
@Shoe tell us that story again? who's that girl? it's not alex?
 
probably the best way to get to talk to a girl become friends with her friends
 
9:04 AM
Alex considered girl.
 
I'm not a girl pls
 
sexist pig
 
12 hours ago, by Shoe
I fell in love today
 
Did you get up afterwards
JESUS FUCKING CHRIST
So the Japanese new "low latency protocol" encodes number as BINARY
Only took 15 years
 
missed opportunity to encode numbers as LOLI
 
9:07 AM
@AlexM. I don't think that works as easy as that. You don't really want to tell a girl to introduce you to her friends. Chances of her doing herself is very small.
 
The best way to find a girlfriend is to ask your wife if she has any friends!
 
@MarkGarcia I did not suggest that
I suggested finding out who her friends are
and introducing himself in there
chances are if she has a bunch of friends jefrey can find an opportunity to get to talk to one of them since they're in the same university
:P
you know like "hey man tough exam today huh"
"ok let's get down to business tell me where <girl> lives"
 
okay so I'm going for bjarne book
 
ez
 
@AlexM. Okay. But consider: if he can't do anything for one girl, how could he for the other ones? ;P
 
9:09 AM
I've liked a girl before. Now I'm writing code.
 
I mean, meet and befriend and stuff.
 
@MarkGarcia I thought the implication was male friends
 
@MarkGarcia eh? it'd be easier to befriend someone you don't like if you ask me
 
@slaphappy oh, okay
 
jefrey looks very stressed and stuff
doubt he'd be able to talk to that particular girl, don't think he'd have trouble with other girls tho
 
9:10 AM
Who is @slaphappy and where is kbok
 
@Shoe I'm not particularly helpful am I? Sorry.
 
but yea I also thought of male friends
a girl especially if pretty like jefrey says
 
@MarkGarcia Speaking of which, are you still in Puerto Princesa?
 
ought to have male friends
 
@AngryLettuce yep
 
9:11 AM
inb4 girl is programmer, never leaves programmer den until an absolute need arises
 
@MarkGarcia Oughta visit you some day my dear kababayan
 
@набиячлэвэлиь that's probably jefrey's wet dream
 
@набиячлэвэлиь :D
 
@AlexM. I might as well just approach her instead
 
@AngryLettuce Perhaps I'll stay here for 2 years more.
 
9:13 AM
@Shoe ok cool
let me know how it goes :P
 
lol
 
@Shoe Present this chat log to show your sincerity. :P
 
@Shoe hey it's possible if you can do it
 
yeah right
nothing like lounge transcript to inspire sincerity
 
@AlexM. Said of the Apollo missions.
 
9:15 AM
@набиячлэвэлиь I ate him
 
> […] le groupe a pris un virage musical radicalement sombre et francophone […]
 
listen it's not about getting strength and balls and talk to her
I just... don't know what to offer
 
{self, money}
 
I would likely get bored after a couple of months
 
offer yourself
 
9:16 AM
I'm not done for relationships
 
@Shoe hahaha rip
 
@Shoe or maybe she would. don't overestimate her expectations.
 
@LucDanton hahahaha
 
he he
 
I love this kind of humour
C'est tellement Achille Talon
 
9:16 AM
@AngryLettuce it’s… actually the WP page :|
 
I love it
 
Don't know how this figure de style is called
 
@Shoe you know yourself better than us
you probably want to make yourself interesting or something like that I don't know
 
@AngryLettuce outside of a literary context, it’s a bait and switch imo
kinda weird there isn’t a literary term for it (other than overall humour)
 
9:18 AM
@AngryLettuce just when you implemented that beautiful parsing code for it?
 
@AlexM. Over self confidence is key.
 
@LucDanton "Il sortit en colère et en pyjama" par ex. Typique dialogue Achille Talon.
 
@MarkGarcia ye I meant in the long run
 
@sehe Thankfully no
The parsing isn't hard but the protocol is complex
 
:D
 
9:20 AM
@AngryLettuce je vois mais jsais pas si c’est comparable, on peut être francophone musicalement non ? je dis pas que c’est intéressant à dire mais bon
 
@AngryLettuce I think that is contamination
 
@LucDanton osef jerry c'est tout ce qui compte
 
@sehe Hey I hold a copyright on that one
 
@Shoe being confident even if you say wrong things 50% of the time is a plus with females, except if she's an expert in that field, also making them laugh too ..which is not easy with all types of females
 
9:22 AM
speaking of which where is @Elim
 
user1804599
if (window.location.host === 'localhost:60000') {
    // Robię się już dość.
    return;
}
 
user1804599
I got sick of certain behaviour the client wanted. :D
 
@KhaledAKhunaifer i know, i know :)
 
what are those funny scottish letters
 
@Shoe Even few months of it is worth it, is it not? :)
 
9:23 AM
@Shoe be sure to pick up a hobby or two
right now it seems that sitting in front of your PC talking to us is what you do 24/24
 
@MadameElyse come on - just set a cookie or so
 
c’est trop bizarre, "le groupe a pris un virage musical radicalement sombre et francophone en 2007" mais ils ont pas sorti d’albums de 2005 à 2011 (même s’ils étaient pas complêtement inactifs non plus)
 
what
 
@LucDanton je me marre à chaque fois
> prendre un virage radicalement francophone
also,
> complêtement
 
@LucDanton you don't need to record all of your band's evolution
 
9:25 AM
@sehe I can only wish I were radically dark and francophone
@AngryLettuce aaaaaa
 
s/your/one's/
 
and here I thought you were complimenting me
 
@Shoe s/talking to us//
 
I wouldn't dare
 
is that more accurate? :P
 
9:33 AM
@sehe on second thought then I’m not sure what you meant
 
@Cinch would a big endian uint8 be faster to process than a little endian one
food for thought
 
Ven
In bed, are you the little or the big endian?
 
oh boy
 
@Ven in bed I sleep
omg weirdo
 
IDL
 
9:40 AM
@Ven so you are looking for a very long person?
 
I love random stupid funny things on reddit i.stack.imgur.com/ZrLkY.png
 
Hopefully I just have to update some glue records but I did see a warning somewhere that said dot.tk doesn't support http... So... Maybe that's why or...
 
argh! They were contradicting statements! This keeps happening.
 
Hi guise
 
hi guy
 
9:44 AM
What sentences were of contradictory nature edition, what sentences
 
@GettingNifty asking Ven if he wanted a very long person, and asking whether or not he actually knew the length of the person.
 
Windows Server 2018: Contradictory Nature Edition
 
Do a regedit
 
MSFT pulling some rogue shit
 
9:49 AM
 
user1804599
@sehe too temporary
 
I love PDL
git filter-branch works fairly well. I like it.
 
Ven
@slaphappy Perl Data Language is amazing <3
 
@KhaledAKhunaifer repost
 
9:58 AM
@набиячлэвэлиь look closer
 
read shit
 
Same meme, lamer execution, -1
 
I was using Paint
 

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