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1:13 AM
@Nima I added you to the other channels. For some reason you were not invited to them!
 
2:42 AM
@HunterStevens thank you!
@WayneConrad yes thank you ..
 
 
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4:15 AM
Have any guys are good knowledge about rails markdown?
 
 
5 hours later…
9:03 AM
hello I am trying to fetch my inbox using rails but unable to do so? Can anyone help me I can show you my code
(Outlook)
 
 
1 hour later…
10:22 AM
Go for it
 
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Q: Rails fetch outlook mail

prateekI am building my rails application in that I am trying to fetch outlook mails using viewpointbut unable to do so.I am getting this error when I am trying to access folder . Unknown key: version = 1 Unknown key: version = 1 undefined method `[]' for nil:NilClass At this line: @folders = cl...

@Cereal-Any idea how to resolve it
 
@AniketShivamTiwari It may be a bug
 
10:49 AM
@Cereal Good find. Perhaps you should add that as an answer.
 
11:15 AM
hi, can anyone please help me on my issue?
 
@AkashPinnaka Please don't ask repeatedly... you will see this in the room rules, linked to in the upper-right.
We also do not want you to ask specific people to help you. Just ask the room, and if someone knows they will answer.
 
I beleive I asked only one time
not repeatedly
@Wayne
 
You asked a day or two ago, if I'm not mistaken.
And this morning, you posted the link, then some time later, you asked if someone could help.
 
yes, you are true and I didn't get the proper responses
I posted the question
 
You didn't get a response because nobody knew the answer. Asking again won't help.
 
11:24 AM
But this is the first time I am using chat room
 
You know, just because you have twice as many accounts doesn't mean we'll pay you twice as much attention. It's quite the opposite.
 
I understand, and that's why I wanted to gently point out the rules.
 
well @Jan Dvorak, I only have one account
 
Do you know Aniket Shivam Tiwari?
 
I posted the same question previously with the same account currently I am using
Aniket Shivam Tiwari?
no
i DONT KNOW HIM
 
11:26 AM
You know, because you're the only two persons in this micro-chatroom: chat.stackoverflow.com/rooms/99168/ruby-on-rails-doubts-corner
 
Have any guys are good knowledge about rails markdown?
 
Yes, i am currently on that chatroom
but didn't ask anything because it is inactive for 1/2 hour
 
@MuktoMona I don't know what "rails markdown" is, but I'm not up-to-date on rails.
 
@MuktoMona Nope, still not.
 
@MuktoMona I know implementing markdown.
I did it
 
11:28 AM
O_o
 
I think I can help you @MuktoMona
 
@Akash thanks
 
@MuktoMona do u need to use that in your textarea?
 
Yes
 
and @JanDvorak, I really don't know who the person u asked
 
11:31 AM
*you
please stop using textspeak, it's disrespectful.
 
and do u also want to use syntax highlighting ?
@MuktoMona
 
@AkashPinnaka *you
 
I am suffering by an error
 
I didn't understand @JanDvorak. And I am sorry if i made wrong
 
@AkashPinnaka
 
11:33 AM
what error? @MuktoMona
 
In short, type words, not letters
 
ok :)
 
Can you please check this link for details
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Q: Trying to add markdown in my rails (version: 4.2.5) application

Mukto MonaI am a newbie in ruby on rails it's also my first ruby application. Now I need to add markdown in my application I am following the below tutorial http://crabonature.pl/posts/16-markdown-in-ruby-on-rails But it's showing an error that is: Also here is my codes details View file code: <%= f...

 
hey I don't know this guy @AkashPinnaka
 
oh, try to restart your server @MuktoMona
 
11:34 AM
Ok
 
@AniketShivamTiwari Oh, hi, didn't know you were still here.
 
And I have posted my question 2 or 3 times on stackoverflow but nobody help me
Actually I went somewhere else
 
And let me know what happened @MuktoMona
 
... posting the same question multiple times isn't allowed.
 
Definitely I will knock you @AkashPinnaka
 
11:36 AM
Didn't it work @MuktoMona
 
@JanDvorak I have posted the question 2 times on stack overflow
but nobody help me
thats why i came over here
 
@AniketShivamTiwari Like I said, that's not allowed.
 
@JanDvorak OK sorry sir I will keep that in mind but can u help me in resolving my problem
 
Everyone new to the room: Please read the room rules linked to in the upper-right corner.
Do not ping people personally for help.
 
@AniketShivamTiwari remember how I told Akash to type with words? That applies to you, too.
 
11:39 AM
ok will be careful from next time
 
Now it's showing wrong argument type nil (expected String) @AkashPinnaka
 
can i post a link in this room?
 
If it's one you haven't posted before, yes.
 
o/
 
11:42 AM
Yes, sure! @AkashPinnaka
 
It worked for me @MuktoMona
 
> Q: how to build a blog.
A: https://ghost.org/
 
and it has syntax highlighting too with pygment.rb gem
 
i want to know one thing if i have ask question over here but i didn't got any response so any idea where i should search for an answer .Because I have search so much but nothing could help me
 
@Kitler self-promotion?
 
11:44 AM
or any of the existing blog frameworks :P
@JanDvorak I wish
 
@AniketShivamTiwari I don't know where else to ask. SO is usually the best place to get an answer. You might see if your question can be improved--sometimes a question does not get an answer because people do not understand it.
 
this chat room is created by user or stackoverflow developers?
 
@Kitler That's my thought... I don't know why everyone's first Rails project (or second, or third) is to do again something that's already been done many times.
@AkashPinnaka SO chat rooms are created by SO users.
 
Well to be fair making a blog would run you through simple crud actions and authentication
It's not a bad way to get started
But for commercial use (legit blog) I would go with a ready made solution, let them handle maintaining it
iirc jekyll was is decent
 
Was?
 
11:52 AM
fixed
Meant it as in I remember it being good
 
jekyll is a pain in my backside. It's persnickity.
 
Is there a way to create a simple chat application in rails?(without knowing javascript)
 
That's a fairly broad question
have you tried googling it?
 
A chat application without javascript would be... of limited abilities. Unless you are willing to use something like Opal.rb, that is.
 
yes, It is showing faye gem
 
11:57 AM
And did you try using that gem?
 
You might be able to hack a simple server push by using an infinite frame, but I'm sure there's a reason nobody does that...
 
I am actually not advanced developer to use such gems. I am beginner
sorry if i was wrong
 
I'm off to the showers... time to get ready for work. @JanDvorak Thanks for keeping an eye on the place, and for your patience. If I was about to reach for the hammer, I know you must have been.
 
chat ended?
 
12:27 PM
This tutorial looking nice I will apply this after sometimes @AkashPinnaka
 
@AkashPinnaka- yes you can make a chat application without knowing javascript
 
@AniketShivamTiwari So, how do you intend to make the chat refresh automatically?
 
you can use coffescript
 
are you beginner in rails? @MuktoMona
 
coffeescript isn't allowed. Coffeescript is 90% javascript.
 
12:36 PM
ohk
then you can make a simple chat application using ruby
but it will be on command prompt
 
I want a web chat. My clients aren't going to install a Ruby environment...
... and they aren't going to learn how to use Telnet either.
 
Yes @AkashPinnaka
 
then you can follow the tutorials in the website I sent you @MuktoMona
 
Okaye @AkashPinnaka
 
"how to build a blog" and "How to build a podcast network" these two are really good
for beginners
I too followed those tutorials. I am still beginner
 
Anonymous
1:13 PM
Good morning, all
 
@HunterStevens Good morning! I got your invite, thank you. I haven't joined yet.
 
Good morning. Have you checked out the no-JS chat idea right above?
 
still not
 
It should be doable with infinite streaming HTML into an iFrame, but I have no idea how to do an auto-scroll.
 
I think autoscrolling can be made with simple javascript
even if we don't know javascript, we can search in google and paste the code accordingly
 
1:24 PM
... what you've just said is wrong on more than one level.
 
Anonymous
I mean, JS can be messy and bloated, but I feel it is necessary in certain cases. I am not a fan of HTML Canvas, or whatever, and would rather create new elements or actions with JS
 
You need Javascript to operate a canvas anyways. But yes, I'm a fan of DHTML.
 
Anonymous
Is it a less bloated version of w3 schools?
 
Define "less bloated"
 
"None of the images load"
 
Anonymous
1:30 PM
^
 
That's one way to reduce bloat.
 
Their new logo does load
Now, this is worse than bad. Note the URL: w3ctutorial.com/jsref/tryit?filename=tryjsref_anchor_charset
 
Anonymous
I am thinking it is an old w3schools -- c2011 and no about info
 
You doubt? I would find their AJAX sample code but every single page is the same SQL example with broken charset.
 
Anonymous
I didn't doubt anything...
 
1:35 PM
Cool. The next chapter afrter AJAX info is AJAX info. And yes, broken charset.
OK... how did what should have been an apostrophe (which lies in low ASCII) turn into a set of three characters?
This page does load, complete with IE5 AJAX support: w3ctutorial.com/ajax-advanced/ajax-aspphp
 
Anonymous
^ Why are we still talking about this site?
 
Same reason one feels compelled to look at a traffic wreck...
 
^
Working from home today, feels good
 
Anonymous
@Cereal lucky you.
 
Anonymous
@JanDvorak we are not savages!
 
1:46 PM
We're not?
I have to re-evaluate my life
 
Anonymous
High of 29F today... Was 22F on my way to work.
 
SI please
 
Anonymous
?
 
He's asking for SI units... degrees C.
!!google 29F to degrees C
 
1:50 PM
She's useful :-D
 
Hmm. I expected google to just convert it.
!!google 29F to C
 
OK, it's the bot. She's not picking up the bit at the top of the page where google does the conversion.
 
Anonymous
@JanDvorak @WayneConrad -1.67 C
 
Ah. It's +3 here.
 
1:52 PM
It's 5C here
 
and -5.555 C for 22F
and it is 18 C here (India)
 
Anonymous
How about the Canadians, @meagar and @Cereal?
 
I like how degrees Celsius are defined as "temperature relative to 273.15 K"
 
Canadians should probably use K instead of C.
 
Anonymous
1:54 PM
And Fahrenheit is just LET'S MAKE SOME CRAZY CONVERSION THAT NO ONE REMEMBERS.
 
Anonymous
Oh, hey, @Cereal is in my time zone!
 
Oh, no
That time is the time the weather was updated
it's 9:55 here
 
All you three people are from US?
@Hunter, @Cereal, @Wayne
 
Anonymous
@AkashPinnaka -- @Wayne and I are from US (AZ, NJ). @Jan is from Europe. @Cereal, @meagar, and @JonathanMusso are from Canada
 
oh I am from India
 
1:58 PM
Hi folks
why models inherit from ActiveRecord::Base .. where as other controllers inherit from ApplicationController, which inturn inherits from ActionController::Base
 
Degrees Fahrenheit are defined using mr. Fahrenheit's body temperature at one specific arbitrary point of time and the melting point of a mix of Ammonium chloride and water at a specific arbitrary ratio. Degrees Celsius are defined using the melting and boiling points of water at one atmosphere of pressure.
 
is this kind of design decision?
 
I am new to SO chatroom. Is this a permanent chatroom? I am asking because I assuming you posted countries of persons by having some previous conversations. @HunterStevens
 
Rails models use ActiveRecord, which is a separate gem that is used by Rails.
 
Hunter's actually psychic
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You get used to it
 
2:02 PM
Or not, he's not a room owner.
Should Hunter be a RO?
 
She*
 
Anonymous
@JanDvorak I am not a room owner, but I am a she
 
I leave that up to @WayneConrad
 
Anonymous
@Cereal beat me to it :D
 
He's the super room owner
 
Anonymous
2:04 PM
I'd love to be room owner :-)
 
ok, what about the controllers? @wayne
they use ActionController gem?
 
Anonymous
@gates Rails has a lot of crazy things in it. I try not to ask those kinds of questions and just accept that it works :P
 
haha .. good one ;)
 
@HunterStevens That's the very reason I don't use it at all
 
what ..?
you can use plain ruby in application level development?
 
Anonymous
2:06 PM
@gates -- Cereal uses Sinatra instead of Rails
 
oh cool!
 
Anonymous
There is also Lotus which is becoming more popular, but is not fully stable yet (v0.6)
 
@HunterStevens Do you promise to be firm when needed but respectful always, to use use kick as a last resort, and to apply the gentlest possible touch when acting as a steward of this room?
 
Anonymous
@WayneConrad except for kick privs, don't I already show those things? :P
 
you are not proposing her?
 
Anonymous
2:08 PM
(yes I promise)
 
you guys are serious!
 
Anonymous
@gates -- Wayne is asking whether I can handle being a room owner... I am like half his age at least...
 
I'm just kidding .. I know what he meant
 
(Ha! I didn't have to agree to that to be a RO)
brb kick spree
 
Anonymous
2:10 PM
Cool new privs :-)
 
I've never considered age to be an issue.
 
Anonymous
@WayneConrad why are people owners, when I have rarely, if ever, seen them in the room?
 
Some cleanup needs to be done, probably.
 
Anonymous
you can be judge of that :-)
 
I've never considered age to be an issue. @HunterStevens your turn!
 
2:13 PM
I'm a packrat. Not the best judge of when to clean things up.
@gates Now, you stop that. :D
 
Someone on reddit said the probablity of winning the powerball was the same as getting heads 28 times in a row in a coin toss
Soooo
Apparently it takes ~ 62195279 tries of 28 coin tosses to get 28 in a row
 
@Cereal did you really just post text as an image? Don't make us hurt you ;)
 
keke
 
Anonymous
Let me use my kick priv!!!!
 
!!> Math.pow(2, 28)
 
2:14 PM
It won't let me copy and paste
 
@JanDvorak 268435456
 
Oops!
 
The text is tiny, the font is wrong ,and it won't let me paste. Dunno what's wrong with it
 
Anonymous
^ Windows.
 
Fairly certain it's my fault, not windows
 
2:15 PM
Right click the title -> properties
 
@gates By the way, welcome, and thanks for joining our little room.
 
:) Thanks .. you guys are active at what time?
 
Ah, thanks
QuickEdit mode was disabled
@gates 24/7, 60% of the time
 
heroku run rake db:migrate .. is the command of the day for me :/
 
@Cereal lol
 
2:17 PM
I pushed it to heroku, then the error is see is something went wrong :D
 
@gates Mostly M-F from about 0700 to 1700 MST, but it varies.
 
you come online at 7 in the morning?
 
Anonymous
@gates sometimes if I have the time while getting ready... Usually 8-5 though.
 
Sometimes earlier for me.
 
you guys start work at very early in the morning!
 
2:21 PM
I arise between 0300 and 0500 local; I'm usually at work at 0600.
 
No students among you?
 
Anonymous
@gates what country are you from? When do you work?
 
Anonymous
@AkashPinnaka I am a part time student, taking classes after work.
 
I am from India, we usually start at 10:30 in the morning - 7:00 in the evening!
 
@gates I am also from India
 
2:22 PM
which classes are you taking @hunter
cool! nice to meet you @akash
 
Same to you @gates
 
Anonymous
I took assembly and mysql last semester... I start java2 and calc3 this semester (next week!)
 
oh did you complete your graduatuion? @HunterStevens
?
 
It's -11C here right now :(
 
@HunterStevens have fun!
 
2:24 PM
Just got back in from shovelling my drive way
 
@meagar you enjoying the snow man?
 
... which is a thing I have to do as a new home-owner
 
Anonymous
No, I will not get my associates until 2017, if I continue to take 2 classes a semester
 
In an unexpected turn of events, .sort() does in fact require a return value to sort.
Good job, self
 
@JonathanMusso Not so much; have worked from home for 8 of the last 10 days due to cold
 
2:24 PM
@JonathanMusso Good morning, good to see you.
 
@meagar it WAS melting the other day! save the rain, now we have been getting slammed with it
 
WTF? It's supposed to go up to 3C and rain this Friday
 
@WayneConrad you too my man. hope you are enjoying the heat you have down there
 
I would love to see that snippet @ce
 
Rain Friday/Saturday and then back down to -6 on Sunday, that should be fun
 
2:25 PM
@JonathanMusso Very much so. By our standards it is cold, but I very much enjoy it.
 
-6 is not cold? 14 c here, and I am freezing
 
@meagar awesome, it's been a nice season otherwise. next month is supposed to be mild compared to historical records
@gates some canadians will wear shorts in -6 ;)
 
nearly 20 C here I am still shivering :)
 
@JonathanMusso Does the El Nino weather pattern affect the climate where you live?
 
Y'all are crazy
 
2:27 PM
@WayneConrad it has this year yes
 
20 and chilly
Pfft
 
I know right
@WayneConrad our climate this year has been close to a Vancouver winter!
 
We're getting a much needed wet winter.
 
Come to atlantic canada and experience the full -40 without windchill
 
What was it @meagar, Xmas eve 15 degrees or close to that?
 
2:28 PM
and then +12 the next day
 
Anonymous
-4C right now and it is cold out.. ;_;
 
It's going to be a bad year for desert wildfires, though, because the wildflowers are going to go nuts this year from all the moisture.
 
@JonathanMusso Yeah, it was ridiculous
 
what about the crops and harvest?
 
I'm an avid year-round cyclist, so I was pretty happy with the crazy heat
Unfortunately where I live now, the roads aren't as well cleared, so it's a little harder to ride a bike
 
2:29 PM
I mean like, with that kind of temperatures .. it's impossible right?
 
In Toronto proper the roads are pretty much always clear enough to ride except for immediately after snow
 
and I love how when "2cm snow storm reaches Toronto" the whole city shuts down lol
 
We have that same thing here in Prague. 1 cm of snow = traffic jams everywhere.
 
How strong is 1cm snow?
is it heavy?
How can we measure snow in cms?
 
Yeah. Just stick a ruler into the layer of snow until it hits something solid.
 
2:36 PM
It's the amount on the ground
 
oh does snow covers the road in US?
 
Anonymous
It can. But we use salt and sand to melt it quickly or prevent black ice (ice that is clear and hidden until you slip on it)
 
yes using salt melts fast
in India(particularly our state) you can't see the roads covering with snow
Here, the roads are clear all the time
 
Anonymous
In NJ, we had a storm almost a year ago (march or april) that called for a state of emergency. it was crazy, being 8+ inches. One year, maybe within the last 5 years (I am bad with time!), we actually ahd 30 inches of snow
 
no one answered about crops :(
 
2:39 PM
oh @.@
 
Anonymous
@gates Crops in NJ are usually dormant in the winter. Our main crops are tomatoes, blueberries, cranberries, corn, and some other things. Most of that is for spring through fall. Winter time, food stores import from other states or countries
 
Anonymous
@WayneConrad I do not have message delete or move to trash perms... That I can tell
 
Thanks for answering :)
 
@HunterStevens It's under the "room"dropdown on the right.
 
Anonymous
1 message moved to Trash can
 
Anonymous
2:43 PM
woah you can bookmark conversations!
 
why trash can?
 
Anonymous
testing out the waters :P But also I was answering you while you typed that response
 
:D
cool!
so my message was your lab rabbit?
 
Anonymous
yes, thank you
 
@JonathanMusso I'm going to the music store this evening to order a new banjo. Special order, so I won't have it for three or four weeks probably.
 
2:58 PM
@WayneConrad fan of banjos?
 
@Jared Very much so. I play a little. I just started lessons, too.
 
anyone know playing violin?
I am a big fan of violin
 
@WayneConrad Well you might find my college's president's collection interesting to peruse through billsbanjos.com . He also has an album, where he plays banjo and sings, from the 70s which is apparently super popular in Korea
He collects a bunch of old timey banjos
 
@WayneConrad Awesome. Does it have to be hand built when you order it?
 
@JonathanMusso I think so. It's not custom, but it's a special order.
@Jared That is an amazing collection.
@AkashPinnaka Do you play?
 
3:08 PM
@WayneConrad Yea he is quite into it. Let us go visit one day and see the ones he had hanging up.
Question... Whats the best way to track down memory bloating part of a method?
 
Memory consumption is the result of interactions across the whole codebase. You can allocate like crazy if you release your code just as fast.
 
Well i have one giant method that does a lot of things to auto populate a form with a bunch of data and related objects. Just trying to track down which one of those substeps is the problem.
 
I don't know of any Ruby tools to do that, but you should be able to view memory consumption by the class of objects stored, then you probably want to look up where those objects are instantiated.
To fix a memory leak you have two options: allocate less, or release more. Each is fixed at a different point in the code.
 
3:24 PM
Cool beans =\... Guess i'll see if there are any obvious nested loops making things ridiculous
 
Usually a memory leak means you're storing things longer than you should. Factoring a method into multiple will reduce the scope of various variables and might help release the data stored in them when they go out of scope sooner.
 
Yea, some of these have a few .each methods that spawn off more methods which do the same
so will probably start there
 
Anonymous
There is a company pool for the US lottery tonight... 15 or so people so far. The company has 50-55 employees
 
Are you all going to split the annuity or the lump sum ;)
 
Recursive data objects are the best way to store data without knowing it. Did you know that each jQuery collection holds a reference to the collection that spawned it?
 
Anonymous
3:28 PM
I'm not involved. Why should I split earnings with 15 other people? And if someone else wins and claims for themselves, there are so many issues there
 
no, but I love violin @WayneConrad
Particularly in Indian songs
 
3:43 PM
I like the sitar more than the violin, but both can be beautiful.
 
Looking for an old function in my commits, found this
 
Cute
@Jared Do I have to go to Korea to see them? I'd love to visit Korea some day.
@HunterStevens My company's owner bought everyone in the co. a powerball ticket.
 
Anonymous
@WayneConrad Are they in a pool though? I personally would not accept a ticket from someone, because I could only imagine some sort of obligation.
 
@WayneConrad No no... he is in Rochester, NY with his banjos. Somehow his music is popular in Korea
 
3:48 PM
@Jared Oh, I don't want to go to NY so much... I like Korean food better ;)
@HunterStevens No, not in a pool.
 
@WayneConrad Yea especially Rochester. Isn't much a happening city. I mean it has Kodak and Xerox so its kind of a shell of what it used to be
 
4:11 PM
Is namae the go-to gem for parsing personal names?
 
4:37 PM
It seems to work pretty well.
 
4:54 PM
I poked fun at a co-worker for typing "lol" when he wasn't laughing, so now he types "qli" (Quietly Laughing Inside).
 
Anonymous
~lol~ QLI
 
qli
 
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