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Ell
1:00 PM
let's just move on then
how about that turkey bacon eh?
 
sbi
@thecoshman Interesting that this coincides with noone else constantly plugging Haskell.
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@sbi lol
 
I fell because I turned too fast.
 
@sbi :O my word!
 
sbi
@BartekBanachewicz Then just stop it. It's simple.
@R.MartinhoFernandes Oh. So at least you have to blame yourself. That's good, you can learn something from it.
 
1:01 PM
@sbi As soon as coshman stops misrepresenting my words just to shit up the discussion OR I plonk him
 
But I'd rather blame the path.
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Ell
I most often fall on my bike when I am stationary
It's extremely undignified
 
sbi
@R.MartinhoFernandes Was there something unexpected? Or was it just "unangepasste Fahrweise"?
 
Ell
When I can't unclip my feet for some reason, I just stop and fall sideways
I look like a complete moron
 
plonkachewicz
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1:02 PM
@Ell have you tried loosening up the pedals?
 
@sbi No. I just misjudged the grip of my tires.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes no, it was because someone put down some loose gravel, you had to go fast because you wanted to cut across a car, the bike is at fault for not being able to handle it, they should make a special lane for you, others should have to move for you, if you went faster you could have flipped back over....
 
I typically get them tighter in the offroad
but loose them up in the city
 
Ell
@BartekBanachewicz No. It doesn't happen often, it's just when I think I can manage to speed up but I can't
 
sbi
@BartekBanachewicz It's a sign of an unsure grip on your own arguments, if you cannot shrug off others' counter argument.
 
1:03 PM
how long have you been ridding with clipped pedals?
 
@Ell seems to be what clips are for, help you cycle 'better' and make a twat out of you.
 
I stopped falling down after 3 months or so
 
Ell
@BartekBanachewicz 2 or 3 years
I don't fall any more
 
@sbi you know perhaps this is a saner move
 
sbi
@R.MartinhoFernandes Well, as I said: You can learn something from that. It's much harder to learn something useful from a random freak accident.
 
1:03 PM
ITT /10/loungec learns how to ride bicycles
 
I just (as mentioned) find it hard to ignore idiotic responses to my messages
deep breath
 
@BartekBanachewicz I think this is a very valuable skill you need to learn on the Internet
 
sbi
@BartekBanachewicz You find it hard to ignore counter arguments. And you find it hard not to name call everyone as an idiot who does so.
 
lol is always a good response
 
I didn't call anyone an idiot.
And there's a difference between "a counterargument" and "an argument made after misrepresenting what someone has said"
 
1:05 PM
@nabijaczleweli with rockets!
 
The good side of not being the inner circle of any bushwalking group is that you get more choices to choose from, not have to be loyal to any group
 
Driving on a yellow light is a race condition
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sbi
@BartekBanachewicz There's a difference between "an argument made after misrepresenting what someone has said" and "assuming an argument was made after misrepresenting what someone has said" because it counters your own argument.
 
of course there is.
I'm well aware of it.
 
I should shave to properly clean this
 
1:10 PM
@BartekBanachewicz lolwat.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes call your krankenkasse
they will probably tell you "we don't cover GTA-style bike racing"
 
@chmod711telkitty is this some thinly veiled way of complaining how the bush walking group rejected you
 
And now to apply ethanol on my lips.
 
gets his bike and does the same
 
Better get the tetanus injection too (I reckon it should be called anti-)
 
1:12 PM
@sehe they have not rejected me, they just did not accept me into their inner circle
 
yikes needles
 
@BartekBanachewicz vOv You have a clear disregard for sensible application of speed and thus are a dangerous driver. You refuse to acknowledge the problems and come up with shoddy excuses. I have no (reason to) doubt you know perfectly well how to control a car, I just question you judgements. And no, a licence has absolutely nothing to do with this. I don't need to have gone to space to know that an explosion on half way up is not a good thing.
 
I have that.
It's mandatory in Portugal
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes ¬_¬ any excuse
 
@TonyTheLion aww yeah
 
user1804599
1:13 PM
ugh
 
 
user1804599
Chrome removed -webkit-font-smoothing.
 
@MarcoA. I remember that song
I was never really much of Children of Bodom fan
 
user1804599
And there is no way to force aliasing.
 
user1804599
Horrible horrible crap.
 
1:14 PM
@TonyTheLion welp, now you have to listen to them
@rightfold you want aliasing?
 
user1804599
Yes. Why the emphasis?
 
> You have fully used your vote allowance for today
That was quick today.
 
@sehe they also get pissed off when I sign up to their rival's bushwalks
too bad
 
oops, I had some samples 'saved' on coliru, never got around to actually saving them, now they are lost to the aether
 
Cleaning this patch on my hand is gonna hurt.
 
1:15 PM
@rightfold I am surprised that you want it.
 
Xeo
@thecoshman Coliru is too convenient :<
 
@chmod711telkitty yay. you have such a good leverage to make them feel miserable. You win at this life thing
 
user1804599
OK.
 
@thecoshman A shame, you could have posted them in the lounge
Lounge<Cloud>
 
@Xeo I know! @StackedCrooked sort your shit out and make coliru shit!
 
1:16 PM
lol
 
... it is stacked isn't it?
yeah
sure it is
 
@sehe you don't understand people, rejection by anything minor is awful to some organizers
 
blind faith and ignorance will never lose
 
@thecoshman you could have posted them as crappy questions ok SO. They'd be closed with "too broad" or "unclear what you're asking" after a walltext pasting.
 
1:18 PM
it's probably for the best... I was playing around with some cli helper stuff... it'd only have ended up as some shitty repo on github
 
sbi
@thecoshman Where is it stacked?
 
sbi
@rightfold Sounds Greek to me.
 
@sbi <derogatory reference>
 
@rightfold lol
 
1:19 PM
@sbi Greek sounds different
 
sbi
@thecoshman That doesn't sound like a place I'd stack my code examples in.
 
New coliru feature: export to GitHub
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@R.MartinhoFernandes oh god no (by that I mean yes)
 
sbi
@nabijaczleweli You say! Next you tell me leftslip isn't Greek at all?
 
starring it for @StackedCrooked
 
sbi
1:20 PM
What's wrong with Coliru anyway?
 
Xeo
4 mins ago, by Xeo
@thecoshman Coliru is too convenient :<
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes be nice too if you could #include pages from github...
 
Xeo
@thecoshman curl them in the command line, and include that file?
 
maybe some sort of script you use in the cli part that pulls down a repo...
@Xeo too much effort
 
Had some ideas on how to make multiple files and archive better and make it more deployable but I have no time
I still think Stacked is crazy for running a public instance of a thing like that :v
 
1:22 PM
Sensible application of speed ends when you don't have enough control of the vehicle to stop or turn when you want to or becomes necessary to. After I made a mistake, I adjusted my braking, released the rear one and tightened the front one. I was never in danger of overshooting or (realistically) falling down; it was a technique issue, not a traffic danger.
Yellow lights exist for a reason, and you're not supposed to brake directly when a yellow light appears; if you think it would require too heavy braking, it's better to simply ride through it. This is what happened with me, so I was well
 
sbi
@Xeo Was that a reply to my question? If so: I was asking why the pirate lost code at Coliru and which shit Stacked should sort out.
@BartekBanachewicz Will you stop it, you idiot!
 
@StackedCrooked you should look to have a page that can rank people by donations, people will pay big money to same "dick" on some internet page
 
@sbi look I wrote a short novel
 
Some owners please kick Bartek
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is median of medians quicksort nlogn worst-case?
 
1:23 PM
so he can go cool down
 
Ell
don't kick barket
 
whistles
 
Xeo
@sbi Pirate lost code because Coliru is too convenient. :P He used it for some small snippets, and when he closed the browser or something, they were lost (because he forgot to "share" them to get a stable link and have it actually saved on the server)
 
@TonyTheLion "kick him! kick him!" demanded the calm crowd
 
sbi
@Xeo Ah, I see. I misinterpreted this then. Thx.
 
1:24 PM
Your confidence will be your downfall.
It was mine.
It always is.
 
> The limits and light changes require you to use gas and brakes more aggresively if you want to maintain the highest possible allowed speed at all times.
 
@thecoshman Check your browser history then?
 
enough quoted.
 
Xeo
@milleniumbug Doesn't help if he didn't share them.
Because unshared snippets are stored in local cache - and only one is.
 
Oh I see
 
1:25 PM
You lose sense of how things can go wrong and then...
This hurts
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes you're talking as if I never fell down from a bicycle :P
 
@sbi I was just editing code in there, so never generated a share link (still on the home page as far as my browser is concerned) eventually it timed out (cookie I think?) so I got the default code again.
 
I guess you learned your lesson
 
falling is a part of riding
at least in mountain bikes
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes me? I doubt it :( I'll just think I won't make the same mistake
 
1:27 PM
So much dirt in this.
 
speaking of bad driving, saw this vid this morning, helmet cam. Some bike at the line, then this car that was in the junction, presumably waiting to turn, the lights had gone red, so decides to reverse back to the line... right over where the bike was. The biker manges to ditch out, but car is up on the entire bike!
 
@thecoshman yup
 
sbi
@R.MartinhoFernandes Mhmm. Have you considered getting this checked out?
 
@BartekBanachewicz He's talking as if this hurts
 
@sehe the attitude is always radically different after a fall
 
1:29 PM
Cough. As we've noticed. The attitude indeed is radically different after an incident
 
yeah, from what we know of the robot, he's probably had to build up a higher pain tolerance than all of us combined :P
 
but then it wears off and you pick up your bike and yourself and ride again
 
I once fell down twice on one downhill ride
 
You're unbelievable
 
1:30 PM
it was over 25km I think
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes He's making this about him. Isn't that cute
 
hi guys :)
 
so, where are all the interesting questions at?
 
1:31 PM
ask yahoo
 
@FilipRoséen-refp wait...
 
@sehe Well of course I care about what happened to robot but you have to agree that posting in Lounge is hardly a proper reaction to anything that potentially might have happened to him
 
Anyone know how to optimize tail recursion away again?
(so that it's no longer a recursive function but instead a simple loop)
 
@paul23 Google knows
 
Every biker I met pretty much agrees to the fact that falling down is a logical consequence of riding
 
Xeo
1:32 PM
@paul23 jump to start at the end?
 
both on bicycles and motorbikes
 
My reaction was to go out and buy first aid supplies at a pharmacy and then ride home and tend to my wounds.
 
@TonyTheLion ... Google knows a lot, if anyone knows by any chance to have a quick question/solution showing the technique :P
 
Ell
Nobody will believe me when I say I spilled raw egg in my hair will they?
 
@paul23 Unlikely in this room.
 
user1804599
1:33 PM
You are wrong.
 
user1804599
Some will.
 
@BartekBanachewicz no, it's a consequence of mistakes.
 
@Ell No. Pics or it didn't happen :P
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes From that we can assume it's not something that's endanering your life and health permanently, I suppose.
 
And the fact that falling happens is no reason to downplay it.
 
1:33 PM
@thecoshman Same thing.
 
also, I never treat people I know from bushwalks as friends, only acquaintances :p
 
@TonyTheLion alright, I'm waiting
 
Everyone makes mistakes.
 
@BartekBanachewicz not at all.
 
@Ell Good job
 
1:34 PM
@FilipRoséen-refp you'll have to wait for a long time
 
$g(\mathbf{x}) = f(x(1)), g(x(2)) $ is the simple mathematical description of the formula I have now
 
user406009
@paul23 Are you talking about rewriting your code in an iterative way, or how a compiler would do the optimization?
 
you know what
 
@thecoshman you can't expect yourself to ride and not make any mistakes.
 
@Lalaland How to prevent SO :P
 
1:34 PM
@TonyTheLion I thought you were going to post some question?
 
fuck it, I am not getting into this shit again.
 
@thecoshman Everyone will die anyway!
 
"Everyone makes mistakes" is not an excuse for being reckless.
 
@FilipRoséen-refp I don't have any questions at this time
 
1:34 PM
friends you make effort to keep, acquaintances ... yeah whatever
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes of course it's not.
 
but thanks for asking
 
Or well language's maximum iteration depth
 
Then shut it.
 
*function iteration
 
1:35 PM
@TonyTheLion think of one, do it now - do it fast!
 
user406009
@paul23 Just post your current code.
 
Lool that's just two lines
 
@FilipRoséen-refp Why does template meta-programming confuse me so much?
 
Xeo
@TonyTheLion Off-topic, subjective, closed.
 
1:36 PM
@TonyTheLion what @Xeo wrote.
 
Xeo
@FilipRoséen-refp Duplicate answer, downvote.
 
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A: Is it legal to compare dangling pointers?

Matt McNabbThe first issue is whether it is legal to use the value of p at all. This is (probably - see note below) covered under [basic.stc.dynamic.deallocation]/4. In C++11 the text was: The effect of using an invalid pointer value (including passing it to a deallocation function) is undefined wit...

 
sbi
 
this could be the most vague answer by a "language-lawyer" ever
 
@Xeo hardly. It has an undisputed answer, "You're an idiot"
 
1:37 PM
:23753233 g(obj x) {
x.val += 1 //x[0] is of
g(x.child) //x.child is of type "obj"
}
 
@sbi hahahah lol
 
@sbi you are calling robot an alcoholic, aren't you :'(
 
hmm snapback + fixed font isn't really working :P
 
@sbi so funny watching that
 
sbi
@thecoshman I especially like the ones that just play jackknife and fold up.
 
1:39 PM
@sbi yeah. It's strange though... like it ran out of power, or couldn't decide what to do, so did nothing
 
user406009
@paul23 This is the basic idea of the transformation. coliru.stacked-crooked.com/a/79994ab71dc5eac8
 
lol they look so drunk
the one grasping the handle at 0:48 is the best
 
@chmod711telkitty I haven't put this in such clear terms before but I will now: I don't appreciate your constant harassment and I grow tired of your constant insinuations that I'm an alcoholic. I will ask you to stop. I will treat any such further attempt as hostile behaviour towards me.
 
@Lalaland The +=1 is just a placehold to "Calculate AI and do everything"
 
@FilipRoséen-refp ahahahahhaa my comment is at +17
I didn't expect it to go that high. :D
 
1:41 PM
@AndyProwl The next one just gave up
 
sbi
@R.MartinhoFernandes Um. Are you confusing telkitty with me now? I'd be very cross at you for that.
:)
 
"Door too hard, abort"
 
@Griwes it's an epic comment
 
lol
 
user406009
1:41 PM
@paul23 With a simple base case as well. coliru.stacked-crooked.com/a/1684f90d796eac03
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes so... is it pot then?
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@sbi This one is by far the best one.
 
user406009
@paul23 Oops, made a mistake: coliru.stacked-crooked.com/a/cf3554a9fa3bb8de
 
this is getting worse by the minute ...
 
Shit. Forgot my elbow.
 
1:43 PM
Better go back for it
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sbi
@R.MartinhoFernandes Ah, OK. I was wondering, because I do that, too, once in a while. (I did drink with you, though.)
Or is there some meaning in you replying to a smiley with "no"?
@R.MartinhoFernandes OMG, what will people walking by think about it lying there!
 
user406009
@paul23 Darn, I always forget things in the mornings: coliru.stacked-crooked.com/a/f12fd08f07ce5fe8
 
user406009
Now that one is correct.
 
@CatPlusPlus lol
 
Ah that makes sense lol
 
1:46 PM
I looked at my top comments.
I was completely unaware of how far this went:
And this, dear children, is why Java should stop taking drugs. — Griwes Jun 25 '13 at 16:35
 
@Griwes Did you regret it?
 
hell no
:D
 
> TransactionAwarePersistenceManagerFactoryProxy
 
user406009
@paul23 You can also remove most non-tail recursive cases by using an explicit stack structure (like std::stack).
 
Java eeek
 
1:47 PM
This question appears to be off-topic because OP should know better and just put spaces around binary arithmetic operators. — Griwes Jan 2 at 13:21
 
@Lalaland ye, that's true, but that is actually less efficient I think?
 
...but... why...? — Griwes Nov 12 '13 at 7:16
oh yes.
:D
 
@Lalaland I'm wondering if (in above case) if I don't have a single child but a list-of-childs I can transform it to a simple tail recurision
 
@Griwes lol dat deleted answer
 
user406009
@paul23 No you can't. You have to use an explicit stack or queue.
 
1:49 PM
@AndyProwl Too bad I can't see those :F
 
Ven
@rightfold GG!
 
user406009
It's not that much less efficient (theoretically).
 
Ell
scrambled egg is yummers
 
@Griwes how do you do that?
 
1:49 PM
@Lalaland python ... and I can actually change the structure probably for the better
 
SO is bad
 
ah shite
I'm slow :D
 
I have basically a "solar system" calculation I'm making now. But say moons orbit in a local system to the planet's gravity - so to get each step a moons location first the planet has to be in place (rotating around a star). And the update algorithm creates hence a deep recursion
 
1:50 PM
@TonyTheLion :DDD
That is hilarious.
 
I'm amazed how much Windows API sucks. — Bartek Banachewicz Dec 11 '12 at 12:44
heh
 
Now I don't wanna go out again.
 
@Griwes Hilariously bad
 
user406009
@paul23 It sounds like you have a graph. I would recommend using BFS. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Breadth-first_search
 
I could also just create "level lists" - and then not depend on recursion but on keeping an order correctly (all moons will be after planets)
 
1:51 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes Yea, the best part about going outside is going back inside :P
 
Ven
@BartekBanachewicz it's like you were surprised
 
But I really need my papers sorted.
 
user1804599
 
@TonyTheLion Top anwser
 
Ven
@rightfold everything is overlapping tho
 
1:52 PM
Not cycling, though. Can't grip the handlebar properly without pain.
 
@BartekBanachewicz WinAPI is legendary for having the worst header files ever
 
@Griwes How do you view comments based on votes btw?
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes get a taxi?
 
@Lalaland No searching, just for "updating everything" so I have to move over everything anyways, and order isn't really important (whether you do mercury before calculating venus is not important, just that you first calculate the position of mars before you calculate deimos)
 
Use epicycles!
 
1:53 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes is there actually a chance you'll be able to make it?
 
3 mins ago, by Griwes
@BartekBanachewicz http://data.stackexchange.com/stackoverflow/query/312672/my-top-comments
 
@thecosh probably not.
 
But yea, keeping a sorted list (instead of an unorder I do right now) for data will be the way to go.
 
@Griwes Oh, thanks
It appears my comments are not very popular
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes sounds hopeful enough, hurry!
 
user406009
1:56 PM
@paul23 Actually it looks like you are looking for a topographical sorting algorithm. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Topological_sorting
 
lock your bicycle nearby & go somewhere to clean up your wounds?
 
user406009
Wikipedia:

    S ← Set of all nodes with no incoming edges
    while S is non-empty do
        remove a node n from S
        process node
        for each node m with an edge e from n to m do
            remove edge e from the graph
            if m has no other incoming edges then
                insert m into S
    if graph has edges then
        return error (graph has at least one cycle)
    else
        return
 
user406009
That is a non-recursive algorithm which will guarantee that everything is visited after all it's dependencies are calculated.
 
Nice
 
@thecoshman i reckon the most funny ones are software failures. The usual divison by zero -> reset crash
 

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