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7:32 AM
@TylerH tnx, maybe @easwee can take the honors?
otherwise we take them at the event tonight
 
maybe
I'm doing my votes now
I'll be doing votes in the morning from now on
 
ok, tnx
 
since I'm often way to tired to do them at night :P
I'll switch on wordpress
 
great
 
Thank you for reviewing 40 close votes today; come back in 16 hours to continue reviewing.
 
7:34 AM
@easwee I don't seem to have the start of your review session on record. I might have not been running when you started, or some error happened.
 
you don't :P
 
hmm, typing and having a phone call doesn't improve my typing skills
@easwee we really need to improve the AI of that stupid bot!
Thanks for voting
 
8:05 AM
@rene should init user session instead of reacting to strings
 
@gunr2171 was working on a scraper to detect if registered users are reviewing, not sure what the status of that is beyond great idea
 
Sam
8:18 AM
@rene SOCVR.Net should be suitable.
 
 
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9:50 AM
Please take on on request of @bummi
 
Sam
Hey @Andrew, all time no see. ;)
 
@Sam hi hi :)
 
 
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12:40 PM
@rene great idea
 
for an initial commit, good enough I would say...
 
: )
yeah, I'm still collecting the stats for all the queues, still need to build a site that can show the charts for them
don't want to learn node.js (too confusing) and asp.net doesn't work well on linux yet
 
OK
 
1:41 PM
@rene just for the bot's back-end? Or some kind of simple page we can view to track metrics over time? (Compile audit tags across all users, cleared tags, etc., graphs by day, week, month, year, etc.)
 
I have some work on a profile scraper (to get all cv reviews a person has done), but it's a slow process if you don't want yourself blocked by SE
 
17
Q: How many requests are too many?

DoorknobI'm writing a small script that makes a large amount of requests in order to obtain data that can't be acquired via the API (for example, getting a user's network profile URL, scraping the network reputation graph, scraping moderator election pages, etc.). However, I am aware that it is possible...

 
we might want to make a separate program that runs on a loop and feeds into the same database, that way we don't have to massively refactor the bot code
@AnthonyMaia you really expect them to make it public?? — Shadow Wizard Dec 4 '14 at 15:18
and meeting time, back later for the event
 
2:41 PM
@Kitler been there done that
 
yup you're the only one that did
 
I'm a good friend like that
 
room 29074 cv squad is lazy nowadays
 
now you must do something for me; assassinate the creator of the PDF
 
lol
 
2:42 PM
because really this format sucks
 
Sam
3:06 PM
@Kitler boom
 
Hmmm [wtf] is not a tag... can we have it as synonym for [wcf]?
 
nice :D
 
@rene good luck :-P
Possible candidates: WhatTheFont
 
3 answers O.o
 
needs one more vote, darn
oh hail @MadaraUchiha for being a "boom"er
 
 
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5:06 PM
4
Q: Don't allow honeypots for questions that I've voted on, or that I've already passed an audit on

durron597When reviewing, it has happened that I get a review-audit for a question I've already voted on (this is not the first time, it is only the most recent). If I know I've upvoted a question, and I know that the question has very positive score, doesn't that defeat the purpose of a honeypot? If the ...

Probably unlikely to come up on SO, but hey
 
@durron597 by "honeypot" you mean audit?
(confused on the terminology)
 
@gunr2171 yea
76
Q: Improving the Quality of Reviews: Project Honeypot

Ben DThere has been a lot of discussion/complaints about the quality of reviews. Many have noted that a large (maybe even a majority) of reviews are rubber stamps in pursuit of a Steward badge (especially because it's one of the few gold badges that can be attained without monumental effort if you're ...

 
reading. I thought "honeypot" was a spam prevention method.
 
@gunr2171 It's a "spamming votes for steward badge" prevention method.
 
ok
last time I saw the term "honeypot" used was for a post where an anonymous user was suggesting spam edits. the honeypot was set up to ban that IP
 
5:22 PM
I believe there might be multiple meanings for "honeypot".
 
probably
 
 
1 hour later…
6:29 PM
I'm in to start the event but I have to finish dinner before I can join
@Closey refresh tags
 
Refreshing the tag listing. Please wait...
error happened!
0: Unable to post message
 
@gunr2171 a honeypot is just any object or method that draws people in by using bait of some kind
 
Oh boy
@Closey refresh tags
@Closey start event
@gunr2171 can you reboot the bot?
anyway
 
oh, sorry, was away from keyboard
@Closey stop bot
 
If you're in for the event, please start on after that
 
6:31 PM
lol "Closey"
 
brb
 
i'm here to help
 
:D
 
get her registered
 
Hey everyone! (SO Close Vote Chatbot started, linux!)
 
6:31 PM
@Closey status
 
SOCVR ChatBot version 1.0.0.0, running for 6 seconds.
 
@Closey refresh tags
 
Refreshing the tag listing. Please wait...
@gunr2171 Tag data has been refreshed.
 
@Closey add user 998328
 
@gunr2171 Ok, I added Carrie Kendall (998328) to the tracked users list.
 
6:32 PM
ok, we're good now
@Closey start event
 
7,500 need review
2,068 reviews today
2,577,681 reviews all-time
The tags to work on are: , , .
 
@Closey starting
 
@gunr2171 Watch out for audits!
 
@Closey starting
 
@TylerH May the Vote be with you!
 
6:33 PM
@CarrieKendall, just tell the bot that you're "starting", and paste in any messages you get from the queue
time for some
passed string audit
 
@Closey starting
 
@rene May Shog9's Will be done.
 
> There are no items for you to review, matching the filter "[seo]"
 
that was fast
 
only about 8
not filtered for any reasons at all
 
6:36 PM
@Closey starting
 
@CarrieKendall Happy reviewing!
 
I don't use any userscripts
they scare me
 
ah, well this is something written by rene
so I agree, scarry
> There are no items for you to review, matching the filter "[seo]"
 
@gunr2171 you like saying that, don't you?
 
6:39 PM
:P
 
This guy has asked the same question like six times
 
what, like closey's profile description?
 
vote as duplicates?
 
already started on it
just wanted to point out to you guys in case you ran across it in the queue
and flagged for moderator attention
I don't know their policy for it but it's probably (hopefully) not "let it continue"
 
6:42 PM
wow, all those questions are terrible
 
it's basically the same one
he never gets an answer so he re-asks
slight changes to the words and markup
unless you mean his other questions
 
@CarrieKendall so much for helping with the CV event :-P
 
i know, i know
 
@CarrieKendall CARRIE, STAPH!!
 
6:46 PM
hell, that thread is so toxic
i'm done, i'm done
 
focus all your hatred into the queue
 
it's not hatred, it's bewilderment haha
review goggles on, now
 
Let the hate flow through you
 
the cvq needs that energy
 
6:49 PM
3rd time's the charm
 
and back to reviewing
@TylerH :P
links, how do they work?
 
derp
 
passed c++ audit
 
> Thank you for reviewing 40 close votes today; come back in 5 hours to continue reviewing.
 
@TylerH Thanks for reviewing! To see more information use the command last session stats.
 
6:52 PM
No audits this time \o/
@Closey last session stats
 
@TylerH Your last completed review session ended 14 seconds ago and lasted 18 minutes and 49 seconds. You reviewed 40 items, averaging a review every 28 seconds.
 
> Thank you for reviewing 40 close votes today; come back in 5 hours to continue reviewing.
 
@rene Thanks for reviewing! To see more information use the command last session stats.
 
@Closey last session stats
 
@rene Your last completed review session ended 3 minutes and 45 seconds ago and lasted 20 minutes and 45 seconds. You reviewed 40 items, averaging a review every 31 seconds.
 
7:00 PM
oh look, a haskell post...
passed haskell audit
> Thank you for reviewing 40 close votes today; come back in 4 hours to continue reviewing.
 
@gunr2171 Thanks for reviewing! To see more information use the command last session stats.
 
@Closey last session stats
 
@gunr2171 Your last completed review session ended 8 seconds ago and lasted 28 minutes and 16 seconds. You reviewed 40 items, averaging a review every 42 seconds.
 
I blame meme image generation
@CarrieKendall, only 9 reviews so far?
 
distracted as always? FOCUS
don't think that we are watching you....
 
i'll cash my 40, sheesh
 
lol
your last review was 4 minutes ago...
did someone alarmed @LynnCrumbling
 
oh, we forgot to do an "all points bulletin" for this event
 
where's ProgramFOX
 
because, you know, no one knows about the schedule page
 
7:09 PM
I know about it but you have to personally subscribe to each event
 
so?
 
there isn't a setting to just have you pinged for all events
like I'm gonna check back to that page every day to see if you've added a new event?
 
meh, we rene only add events once a month
 
I just show up here most days and sometimes there's an event
It would be nice if there were a "repeat this event every day forever" option
 
rene and I try to do reviews every day, the weekly events are the only time we actually try to get other people involved
@TylerH there is
but the current schedule isn't that normal
 
7:12 PM
It is not normal for a reason
 
yeah, it allows all the days of the week to be covered
which I think is a good idea
and / or we like making diagonal lines in the calendar
 
yep
 
Christmas Treeing, eh
 
yep
 
rene has added an event to this room's schedule.
 
7:23 PM
your wish is granted
 
lols
 
@rene yeah, this job thing keeps nagging at me :(
 
don't worry about it, you're here to help out, not do your second job
 
Yeah, reminds me to finish dinner, by having dessert
first things first
 
dessert.importance > se.quality
 
7:29 PM
tweeks out about lack of capitals
 
at least you tweeked and didn't twerk
 
yes, that is good
 
okay, let's have this discussion
how do you case abbreviations?
 
I don't shake my butt because of formatting on SO, but if I did I would lose a lot of weight that way
@CarrieKendall var ieManager = new IEManager();
like that?
 
yes
now, work for any government body in the us
 
7:32 PM
I have a friend that does, I understand your pain
 
haha most everyone here prefers IEManager
then it starts looking like
SCRAPCONNManager
^ WHAT IS THAT
 
at least it's not XMLHttpRequest
 
then, of course, don't include comments
 
i know, those bastards
well, you can't include comments with variables like ALTSMOVEStream
 
7:36 PM
ew
 
hum, I have a few "manager" classes in the bot code
 
trivia:
Oh, and I also explain in a comment why I chose that name: // I would have called it "heartbeatManager", but the boss doesn't like that: http://www.codinghorror.com/blog/2006/03/i-shall-call-it-somethingmanager.htmlbalpha ♦ Apr 24 '13 at 12:42
 
haha
@Tyler are you reading that chat?
 
@CarrieKendall no I left already
I was reading it though
 
it makes my head hurt
it's a shame that my initial comments were merged into chat as well
 
7:41 PM
yeah it's kind of annoying sometimes when comments on meta questions get moved to chat
 
i secretly just slowly reviewed so i could be the fifth vote on a majority of these posts
>:)
 
lol
 
@CarrieKendall valid strategy when you don't have 10k
 
that's like when they have an event in here and I always show up 20 minutes later to close everything off
 
haha
i feel so empowered
i am practically a hammer at this point
you 4 schmucks did all the heavy lifting :p
 
7:43 PM
it's nice looking at your history and seeing "closed"/"on hold" on everything
 
8:09 PM
filtering to wordpress, database, and json makes me sad :(
so many low quality code dumps
 
yep
when you're done @CarrieKendall, paste in the message you get from the queue and the bot will record that you finished
 
> Thank you for reviewing 40 close votes today; come back in 3 hours to continue reviewing.
 
@CarrieKendall Thanks for reviewing! To see more information use the command last session stats.
error happened!
0: Unable to post message
 
wat?
@Closey status
fffff
@Closey stop bot
not sure why this is going on
but it's restarting...
 
Hey everyone! (SO Close Vote Chatbot started, linux!)
 
8:14 PM
i intimidated your bot to death :(
 
@Closey status
 
SOCVR ChatBot version 1.0.0.0, running for 28 seconds.
 
it should have recorded the end of the session, so you can run "last session stats"
@CarrieKendall yeah, not sure what's going on there
 
@Closey last session stats
 
@CarrieKendall Your last completed review session ended 2 minutes and 15 seconds ago and lasted 1 hour, 36 minutes and 20 seconds. You reviewed 40 items, averaging a review every 2 minutes and 24 seconds.
 
8:15 PM
haha, i'm such a thorough (read as distracted) reviewer
 
you got your 40 done and that's all that matters
the points don't matter
 
We should really look into make these events 2 hours to accommodate @CarrieKendall ;)
 
just like reputation to Jon Skeet...
 
@rene yes please
:P
actually, give me an hour buffer
never know when a meta post is going to catch my eye so, let's plan for it
 
hey @Sam
 
Sam
8:18 PM
Hiya
 
look at this:
5 mins ago, by Closey
error happened!
0: Unable to post message
 
Sam
I assume the message returned was null then?
 
has happened a couple of times these few days
yeah, that's what I throw on
 
Sam
Hmm.
 
is there any relevance between activating a new user without a restart before they start a review session? i have no clue, that's a complete guess in the dark.. link to sauce?
 
Sam
8:20 PM
I have a feeling it may have something to do the action executor.
But I'd have to debug to be sure.
 
well, have to go for today, need to finish up some stuff before I leave for the day. @Sam if you need me I might be around in a few hours for debugging if you need it
 
Sam
@gunr2171 How's the "check if a user is reviewing by scrapping" idea coming along?
 
@Sam rene's idea so far
but I do have some starter code in one of the bot's branches
 
Sam
@gunr2171 Nah, I meant me debugging my local CE.Net test project. Closey won't be needed ;)
 
8:22 PM
ok
 
Sam
@gunr2171 kk
Well, I was actually just about to upgrade the JSON lib anyway, so I guess this would be a good opportunity to debug...
 
I see it is my idea now? That normally means I have to implement it as well...
 
Sam
8:38 PM
lol
 

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