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3:00 PM
They're reanimated by magic
magic is... magic.
 
!!magic
 
(∩ ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)⊃━☆゚. * ・ 。 ᵀᴴᴱ ᴳᴬᴹᴱ
 
dammit
 
you're trying to apply logic to Zombie lore. I just can't get behind that :P
 
who did that
 
3:00 PM
But don't force your 2 cent biology on the movie and hope it somehow makes sense
 
@SecondRikudo ;)
 
@rlemon Dude, I try to apply logic in anime
Zombie movies are nothing to me.
 
:backs away slowly:
 
Needs more Michael Bay imo
 
Who here was waiting for a fix of miaou for safari ?
 
3:15 PM
people use safari?
 
@NickDugger No one here admits.
 
user1648409
Hey guys. Some JS / Three.JS Experts here? :)
 
At the conference I went to on Saturday, I was talking with a couple of the speakers afterwards, and one of them was talking about how he works a lot on drupal, and I laughed and felt sorry for him...
 
@Shiuyin what is JS?
 
what is taters?
 
user1648409
3:18 PM
JavaScript?
 
user1596138
lol React doin all the work for me
 
JQueryScript
 
!!youtube what is drugs
 
javaQuery
 
user1596138
Awesome
 
@Shiuyin did you look at the room you are in?
 
user1648409
@rl
 
I guess it could be JScript though?
 
user1648409
@rlemon doesn't mean that everybody in here, is a JS professional ..
 
there is a good chance you'll find one. just ask your question
 
3:19 PM
@Shiuyin That implies you're a JS professional.
Congratulations!
 
user1648409
by far i am not
 
asking for an 'expert' here probably will just get your request ignored. just ask the question
 
I wish I was a professional
 
I make money writing JS, does that make me a professional or a scam-artist?
 
user1648409
i just have a question about raycasting / intersecting in ThreeJS - anybody here who knows something about it?
 
3:20 PM
why not both?
!!welcome Shiuyin
 
@Shiuyin Welcome to the JavaScript chat! Please review the room pseudo-rules. Please don't ask if you can ask or if anyone's around; just ask your question, and if anyone's free and interested they'll help.
 
professional scam-artist, sure
 
@ivarni are you a "software consultant?"
 
@ssube Well.... yes, I guess. I charge by the hour and are hired in as independent, so technically yes
haven't done in-house dev for almost 10 years
 
then yes, you're a scam artist :P
 
3:23 PM
Cover blown
damn
 
user1596138
scamjs
 
user1648409
okok, my question: pastebin.com/EbeDLXPY. I want to see if one of the objects in the scene in Three JS has been hit. The raycaster needs normalized positions (-1 to 1). When using console.log() i seem to get correct values for the x axis (between -1 and 1) but not for the y axis of the mouse. Therefore i think in line 6 has to be an error. Anybody knows whats up there?
 
even if I hate such symbolism... this one really made me laugh...
 
@jAndy that's racist
 
3:30 PM
Towards what race @JanDvorak?
 
more like speciesism
 
cats are people too
 
lies
 
user1596138
Specist
 
That's bad but I lold
 
3:32 PM
That's good
I may have had a genius idea this morning pre-coffee and tired as fuck.
 
user1596138
@KendallFrey oh do tell us
 
Oh yes, a cat wearing a turban with bombs strapped on it. I can't see what anyone might find offensive about that.
 
@Jhawins too much explaining
 
user1596138
You disappoint
 
@KendallFrey how's that a genius idea?
 
user1596138
3:34 PM
I'm using React today. Facebook made something sweet
 
it applies to our project at work
 
Someone gave a talk on react at the conference
now I, yeah, I see the benefits... but I still don't want to use it
 
posted on March 30, 2015 by admin

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@NickDugger its so easy
and awesome.
 
user1596138
@NickDugger It does so much shit for you lol
 
3:36 PM
But... facebook...
 
@Loktar like your mom
 
webcomponents are the fuuuture
@KendallFrey lol
 
user1596138
I feel dirty when I use it
 
my mom would appreciate that
 
It's not a matter of it being easy or hard; I will always choose to learn. I just don't see any use for it in my current work
 
user1596138
3:37 PM
In a good way
 
@Jhawins well its not that it really does a ton for you
whats great is that you can use JS
I mean like.. you aren't learning some framework
 
HTML6 will be reactive
jk
dunno
 
user1596138
Well yeah I mean it doesn't "do shit for you" but it makes things simple
 
yeah lol i just don't want people to get the wrong impression
 
user1596138
Maybe not simple either..
 
3:38 PM
like there isn't a whole lot of "magic"
which is what I love
 
user1596138
Yeah yeah my bad. There really isn't, you have to write everything.
 
user1596138
But it gives you such a nice structure to roll with
 
also the api/component spec is so nice..
so easy to understand
 
user1596138
This is basically my first impression stuff too so I probably haven't even cracked into the real good bits yet
 
no weird shit like "elementWillTranscludeTheServiceState"
 
user1596138
3:39 PM
Haha I still like the naming of dangerouslySetInnerHTML/whatever it was
 
lol yea
 
TheThingThatGetsDataFromTheServer
 
"transclude"?
 
a la JS chat.
 
what I love is we are using it here on a moderate sized project with devs who have only used jQuery
and they love it, and haven't needed/wanted to use JQ
@JanDvorak lol was poking fun at Angular
 
3:40 PM
jQuery is love.
 
we are also building our own library of components to use on our projects which is nice
its happening organically though as we go along
 
user1596138
Yeah I like the modular aspect of it
 
yeah thats a huge plus imo
also if you look at the community.. they know whats up
 
user1596138
That's what I mean it like in a way coaxes you into making things reusable / modular
 
ES6/2015 everywhere
 
user1596138
3:42 PM
But it doesn't feel like a hassle.. At all
 
react 0.13 is using es6 classes as well :P
 
user1596138
And having good docs is so nice lol
 
@Jhawins yeah for sure
 
@Jhawins I dunno, I didn't really like a lot of the things angular did.
 
really stuck on this one:stackoverflow.com/questions/29299365/… could someone pls take a look?
 
3:43 PM
Magic strings take the top spot.
 
user1596138
@SecondRikudo I'm talking about React
 
@Jhawins Ah, I'm ashamed to say I haven't tried it yet.
 
user1596138
Do it :P
 
anyone that has been working with kendo ui components
 
Need to find a project to use React on.
 
3:43 PM
@darkyen00 and @BenjaminGruenbaum are the only ones I know who have here
 
Have what?
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum is who got me looking into it honestly
used/messed with react
 
Oh react yeah, I messed with it but I'm not good or anything - I just like it.
 
Personally I hope KO finds a way to incorporate the virtual DOM aspect of React into its rendering
 
!!afk lunch
 
3:46 PM
yeah KO wasn't bad when I used it either, only thing I didn't like was having to access/modify observables with helper methods
react its generally just a matter of this.props.something
however there is a setState method I suppose
 
"access/modify observables with helper methods" - what do you mean?
 
I need a new history book. What should I buy?
 
Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire, obviously.
 
the mormon bible
 
In seriousness, any other Roman history fans here?
It's like Game of Thrones, except that it actually happened. (And less boobs)
 
3:55 PM
I like Roman History a lot, but have already read that book
 
@Retsam and a lot more peepees
 
"less boobs", Julius Caesar was having affairs with everyone, so there were probably a lot more
 
@corvid but you don't get to see em
 
Well, sure, half the population was still women, so the proportion of boobs in Roman history is normal... I just mean the history books tend not to include graphic descriptions of those affairs.
 
that's the problem with real history: you can't see the genitals
 
3:57 PM
Nobody wants to see 14th century unwashed dong
 
@SterlingArcher speak for yourself!
 
speak for yourself
hey
great minds
 
@SterlingArcher I feel excluded
 
welp, just locked myself out of my dedi
xD
 
my "illustrated history of rome" will change these things...
 
4:00 PM
altf4
 
stupid brctl
Not even responding to a remote reboot, i'll worry about it when I get home
 
@corvid How about an illustrated history of Pompeii
 
happy monday
 
user2620028
happy monday taco lol its monday for me for another hour still :P
 
oh hey @HatterisMad
 
user2620028
4:14 PM
wassup hoe
 
hey you still seeing that girl or are you dating a lady boy yet
 
user2620028
Still stuck with this one
 
user1596138
lol lady boy
 
user2620028
How you doin down in atlanta. Enjoying the snow? Or did you get any this year
 
user2620028
my gawd hawins in the chat too
 
user1596138
4:16 PM
I'm here all the time bro
 
A bunch of cold, very little snow
He has nothing better to do
 
user1596138
Well I'm pretty much guaranteed to at least be in and out of here during work
 
Working on a Java task today. Bleh
 
user1596138
Eww
 
user2620028
Eww
 
user2620028
4:20 PM
I am trying to get a php file to include.... nigh impossible
 
What version of php
 
wat
 
@taco right there with you boss
 
user2620028
hmm lemme look. i think it is like 5.5.6 or something
 
4:21 PM
@HatterisMad are you using namespaces? That's how I do it in 5.4+
 
user2620028
Well this project (for school) is integration of the Stripe payment API
 
user2620028
And the project uses namespaces. This is my first time past 5.3+ ver of php so my first time with namespaces
 
lol
5.3 is so ancient
 
user1596138
lol I never used anything older than 5.4..
 
user1596138
Actually shit they used 5.3 when I got here but then we switched hosts and upgraded
 
user2620028
4:25 PM
lol yeeeah
 
user2620028
@taco 5.6.5
 
I had to get one system off Debian as it was on Lenny and PHP packages were 5.2
 
user1596138
@Loktar I guess what I meant by React doing so much for you is that the LOC:functionality ratio seems very low compared to what I would normally have to do to accomplish the same things
 
oh yeah for sure @Jhawins
 
user1596138
Even tho I'm learning React right now I feel like this project is moving just as fast as it would've (and a lot less frustrating)
 
user1596138
4:32 PM
I'm using it to do a control panel for Push Notifications
 
user1596138
And other strange functionalities the boss requested...
 
what's the best way to make a queue of functions to be run? (where the order matters)
 
user1596138
Unless there's more to it... Array
 
user1596138
Do you need to store the results or anything like that? Store a condition to check before moving to the next function?
 
user2620028
Seriously though i hate php some times hahaha.
 
4:35 PM
@corvid mutex = mutex.then(function(){...})
 
user1596138
1 message moved to PHP
 
in HTML, is the only valid date for the value property mm/dd/yyyy?
 
Isn't that locale-specific on the user side?
 
user1596138
> Keep everything tucked up soon do clam logs
 
user1596138
Youtube auto subtitles...
 
4:38 PM
I mean for the date to show up in the HTML date input
<input type="date" id="startDate" name="startDate" value="2015-12-31 00:00:00.0" />
 
*BenjaminGruenbaum Can you provide any insights on force-wrapping RTL text (Arabic, Hebrew, etc)?
 
@Jhawins sounds pretty much like what a markov chain spam bot would produce
 
That's how it shows up, even with a value. I think the 00:00:00.0 is throwing it off, and if so, that's not good because I have no idea how to edit the default value yet
 
user1596138
@SterlingArcher No you can't change it
 
user1596138
You can use like an input mask
 
4:40 PM
like a placeholder?
 
user1596138
I wouldn't use the date type of you're working with the time as well
 
wow. They chose this format???
 
user1596138
@SterlingArcher Check out jQuery input masks you'll get what I mean
 
Next they'll force all sizes to be in inches
 
user1596138
Oh shit it's only with plugins too
 
4:41 PM
@Jhawins that's just the date from the DB, I can't change the format
:(
 
user1596138
@SterlingArcher Right you need to use an input mask or something if you want to force the format you choose.
 
Fuck. Ok I'll check dat out
ty sir
 
user1596138
@SterlingArcher javascriptools.sourceforge.net/samples/sample_mask.html this is pretty much the functionality I mean
 
user1596138
You can use JS to force a custom format/scheme for the input.
 
user1596138
Why do you need YYYY-MM-DD hh:mm:ss in an input though? Won't that be clunky as hell
 
4:44 PM
@Jhawins it makes much more sense than the american format
 
My instincts are to insert a zero-width space at an appropriate point in the word/sentence, but where that might be isn't clear to me
 
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@JanDvorak I just mean having the entire date time in an input seems clunky for end users
 
man theres almost nothing to do on this js contract
 
the hh:mm:ss is just pulled from the db, it's inputted using a type="date" input anyways, so I'm not sure how to truncate that in the MVC framework im using
 
@Jhawins disputable
 
4:45 PM
American Date format > European Date format.
 
user1596138
I would probably separate them to 2 inputs and combine with JS when it's time to use them. For the sake of the user, that's just my opinion obviously.
 
@SterlingArcher if you have a known datetime format, using substring works depressingly well
 
@ssube I was thinking that, but Spring/Thymeleaf may make that tricky
 
@Jhawins you don't really want the user to type any of it ever, so the input should definitely pop a calendar/time picker when you focus on it
 
user1596138
@SterlingArcher Ohhhh lol you just needed to put that date in the normal type=date format? You don't need to have the time of day?
 
4:46 PM
@Retsam I don't know... Month/Day/Year is more confusing that Day/Month/Year or Year/Month/Day
 
a lot of pickers allow date and time in the same one
 
@Jhawins exactly
 
user1596138
Yeah I use one with both
 
user1596138
@SterlingArcher yea just cut the ass of the string off
 
<input type="date" id="startDate" name="startDate" th:value="${person.startdate}" /> this is my thymeleaf input
Person person = repo.findById(id);
model.addAttribute("person", person);
And it's sent over by a model in Java
Not sure where to intercept and substring
 
user1596138
4:47 PM
thymeleaf th:value
 
user2620028
Guys can anyone help me with a php include error. The php room is way too focused on their conversation to care
 
user1596138
Weird naming shit
 
@HatterisMad no
 
@HatterisMad I think not
 
I'd personally prefer to see any "full" date representation in the ISO format, localized to my timezone.
 
4:48 PM
@SterlingArcher does thymeleaf have the concept of helpers?
th:shortdate?
 
omg thymeleaf has a substring method :O
Im reading the docs now
 
user2620028
@ssube @jan I think it is far more efficient for anyone who is willing to help to speak up instead of everyone who is not wishing to help to ping me
 
@HatterisMad no
 
@SterlingArcher Bro, do you even substr?
 
@Shmiddty M/D is better than D/M. Just like with numbers, you put the most significant unit first. Sure, tacking the year at the end is a bit awkward and inconsistent, but in most cases the year is irrelevant.
 
4:49 PM
${#strings.substring(name,3,5)} // also array*, list* and set*
 
@Retsam then use YYYYMMDD
 
user1596138
Oh you got it
 
user2620028
@jan still a much less efficient option
 
You can still drop the year
 
Sure, that probably is the format that makes the most sense.
 
4:50 PM
luckily for all of us, ISO 8601 has covered this already
 
@Retsam That's a fair point, but then why not just say "March 5th"? If you're going to include year, month, and day, It should be in a format that is clear and consistent
 
and globally decided the MMDDYYYY makes no damn sense and should never be used
 
@Shmiddty Why not abbreviate that to 3/5?
@Shmiddty I didn't say American system was the best system just that it's better than the European system. Which I think it is.
 
@Retsam Because that could be March 5th or May 3rd
 
user2620028
Yeah i hate the differences in formatting... just moved internationally and i always write the dates in ways no one understands
 
4:51 PM
@Retsam confusion with little endian, the tendency to pad to fixed width
Czech uses DD.MM.YYYY
kinda makes sense, but still terrible for sorting
 
@JanDvorak least-significant-first or most-significant-first is fairly minor, compared to the utter travesty that is america's semi-significant-first-then-some-other-shit format
 
agreed
 
I should just start writing all dates in legal documents in ISO.
 
@ssube I think month before days is way more important than where you stick the year.
 
@Loktar i wouldn't call myself messed with it
 
4:54 PM
@Retsam month before day is fine, so long as the year (if present) is before the month. Order by decreasing significance.
 
I have a habit of taking the best framework and destroying it completely and ending up with bugs
 
@ssube Nah, man.
 
That's what ISO8601 uses, in fact, because it works pretty well.
M/D/Y is inconsistent and, at best, confusing.
 
1 message moved to JS trash
 
I mean, I get it. ISO8601 is the most logically consistent system. But after that, I think MM/DD/YY is way more useful than DD/MM/YY.
 
4:55 PM
@SuperUberDuper Don't repost the same message, please.
 
@Retsam i think the exact opposite
 
it said retry/cancel
 
The sort of "confusion" that results from sticking the year at the end, not the beginning is entirely hypothetical. Most people don't think in those terms of "decreasing significance"
 
@Retsam it does anytime you want to sort by ASCII
 
@JanDvorak I'm talking about everyday usage, not programmer usage.
 
4:57 PM
Automatic naming of photos...
 
And, again, I'm comparing to the European system, not the ISO8601 system.
 
dd/mm/yy makes more sense imo
 
how about dd-mm-yy?
 

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